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kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #527


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 527

Today's Topics:
  Re: needle [ w van der linde <wliATnospamxs4all.nl> ]
  Re: Shaktipat & Fear [ flute <fluteATnospamtexas.net> ]
  Re: My bizarre experiences [ Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com ]
  Lecture by Flute & friend [ flute <fluteATnospamtexas.net> ]
  Unconditional Love [ "Kat" <KCliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> ]
  What's up? [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ]
  Re: What's up? [ matrixATnospamroyaume.com ]
  Re: Paul West - -a dream/nightmare? [ matrixATnospamroyaume.com ]
  Re: Grounded [ matrixATnospamroyaume.com ]
  Re: Unconditional Love [ matrixATnospamroyaume.com ]
  Re: Unconditional Love [ "Kat" <KCliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> ]
  Re: Mail failure:cut that out! [ "THOMAS SMITH" <WHITEKNIGHT11ATnospamprodi ]
  Re: Re: My bizarre experiences [ "THOMAS SMITH" <WHITEKNIGHT11ATnospamprodi ]
  Re: Lecture by Flute & friend [ "jim privacy" <jprivacyATnospamhotmail.com ]
  Re: Fw: Thank you [ "THOMAS SMITH" <WHITEKNIGHT11ATnospamprodi ]
  Re: Paul West - -a dream/nightmare? [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
  Re: Grounded [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 13:09:23 +0200
From: w van der linde <wliATnospamxs4all.nl>
To: Edward Gurd <trexisATnospamjuno.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: needle
Message-ID: <35B4767B.6977ATnospamxs4all.nl>

Edward Gurd wrote:
>
> Could you give m ore specific instructions on the meditation on the
> needle for
> arousing or awakening kundalini?
>
ok i give some instructions about meditation on the needle.
it is based on the meditation of gautama boeddha.
the original word of boeddha was bhavana it means development or
cultivate
it's important to understand that because in the western world
meditation
is misunderstood. The western world thinks meditation is escaping from
the
world in fantasy. This is a contradiction.! One of the main forms of
bhavana
is a sharp consciousness of everything. Living in the now is very
important.
Another important aspect of bhavana is that we must analyze our thougts
and
feelings. We must do it from a scientific background.
---
instruction 1
be attentive.
sit down in the evening.
go back in your to your awakening in the morning.
do it not in words but in images
if u can't write down the episode.
if your thougts are wandering away then goto back to your awakening
write down the moments u have forgotten.
---
instruction 2
concentrate on the needle
observe the needle
your concentration must be absolute.
other thoughts are not allowed
try it and tell me if you succeed.
----
instruction3
concentrate on your respiration
do not try to control your respiration.
attempts to control respiration elicts a fight or fly response
and destroys the relaxation respons.

good luck wli
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:10:13 -0500
From: flute <fluteATnospamtexas.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Shaktipat & Fear
Message-ID: <35B49335.73E2ATnospamtexas.net>

Shaktipat is not a physical experience. Any kind of physical touch is
not necessary. It can be initiated thru breathwork, then if you wish to
initiate the physical you can feel the sensations almost tantric in
nature. (Chuckle)Mystress knows all about this.
:however basically
It is the essence of one, joining with the essence of another. In one
that is kundalini awakened, it will help to awaken the other. No special
Guru is necessary. There is an individual responsibility involved. When
you allow/believe that only another can make you happy then you are
involving yourself in Co-Dependent relations and by that attitude you
set your self up for unethical treatment.
  I think, this is not what a true Guru or teacher wants. They want you
to awaken to your own self and quit depending on the programming of the
outside world.

 Thomas,
YES !
There are two emotions.. One is Fear the other is Love. Negative
Positive if you will. Both are necessary to survive and balance. Fear
in its positive aspect is the warning signal like the Car Alarm system.
Something to alert your mind. In its negative aspect it is the true
basis for: hate, greed, envy, jealousy, Arrogance, and all the Demons
that dance in the mind. Others can control you or steal your energy
thru fear. I've been learning much about fear and how it works..
I have a friend that is a street person/gang member and I have never
seen such an adapt intuitive. His fear has made him so aware of the
subtle energies that its amazing. BUT he also uses the fear aspect as a
tool and a defense. Think of it.. You see the black clothing and the
fierce look and you think Devil.. THATS exactly what he wants you to
think.. Then you are less apt to bother him. I've been observing him
and talking with him and the thing he fears??
Love, Hugs, Affection. In his life they have always been something that
made him let his guard down and He can't survive in his world in that
manner. So I hug him and watch him blush. He trusts me, but as soon as
he walks out the door of the Shop.. You see the shoulders straighten and
the little boy look disappear into the demon of the night.
Love and Light,
flute
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 09:54:11 EDT
From: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com
To: SunSaluteATnospamaol.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: My bizarre experiences
Message-ID: <82006138.35b49d84ATnospamaol.com>

In a message dated 7/20/1998 7:33:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
SunSaluteATnospamaol.com writes:

Sun: Evil no doubt has the capacity to harm the small individual--

Harsha: What is Evil? Perhaps it is that which causes immense suffering. Do
we not grow from it? Is Growth possible without suffering? For me at least,
great suffering resulted in growth.

 Sun: We must all learn the hard lesson, however, that the Universe is not
meant to
 serve the individual ego. It is we who must serve the Universe--including
 learning how to deal with adversity; the more of us who learn to be selfless,
 the less "evil" there will be. We must learn to see not through our own
eyes,
 but through the (Third) Eye of the Cosmos.

Harsha: Our Eye is the Third Eye of the Cosmos
 
 Sun: To be a spiritual warrior is to cease all
 resistance and struggle--to guide with an open hand rather than a clenched
fist--even as
 the demon stares you in the face.
 
Harsha: When the divine light of the Lord of Life is lit in our Heart, will it
not benefit others who stare us in the face.
 
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:58:51 -0500
From: flute <fluteATnospamtexas.net>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Lecture by Flute & friend
Message-ID: <35B49E9B.104EATnospamtexas.net>

Reiki Masters,
Flute and Dr. Rolando Rodriquez, MD will be giving a Lecture on
Multidimensional REIKI
at the Whole Life Expo in Austin Texas on Sunday, September 20th at
4:00 in Lecture Room #7.
We will also be available in Booth #614 for all three days of the show.
..
chuckle..
bragging and delighted,
flute
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 09:57:48 -0400
From: "Kat" <KCliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
To: <Kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Unconditional Love
Message-ID: <000001bdb4bb$04c8e280$46e6d5d1ATnospamdefault>
Content-Type: text/plain;
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Hi All,

I had a realization last night that has feeled me with joy and a deep sense
of peace. As I was lying in bed trying to go to sleep and being unable to I
started to feel , this feeling of Love and peacefulness and then this
thought came to my mind and I wish to share it with all.

Unconditional Love simply is. It is that simple. The moment we try to put
it into words or give it thought or try to descripe it to ourselves or
others
we have put a condition on it.

In L&L & Understandning,

Katharine
Date: 21 Jul 98 21:09:38 +0000
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: What's up?
Message-Id: <35B50392.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>

Hi.

Do'ya ever get the feeling that you're in a place where there is
nothing wrong, and yet that you believe there is?

I am wondering, if maybe this is my approach at this time. What if
maybe I am making much ado about absolutely nothing. What if there
really isn't anything wrong whatsoever. Who in their right mind would
want to be in such a heavenly place and yet still believe there's
something wrong with it?

I keep trying to figure out ways to solve the problems and they just
keep coming back all the time. But I'm starting to wonder if maybe
everyone else doesn't know about these problems I have, like, maybe I
am inventing them.

I keep feeling that there are all sorts of things wrong. I was looking
through a website about mental health and in some way I thought that
just about every mental problem applied to me in some way. But why?

Why, if I'm standing smack bang in the middle of paradise, do I go
around believing that there's so much stuff wrong with me and the
world? Is it not my judgement, my opinion, my attitude towards the
world. Why would I want to say that such a beautiful thing is ugly?

There always seems to be a mental cloud in my head and it's like I am
not very aware of myself. And in that cloud there are so many
complicated ruts and divvets and tangles. It seems hopeless that there
could be any permanent solution to it all. I keep getting feelings of
being childish and weak.

Why would any enlightened person in their right mind want to view
themselves as incomplete? That's what it's like. It's as though
everyone and everything is absolutely a-okay and that, even so, I am
making there be problems. Why would I do that? Why would anybody do
that - denying that there is nothing wrong at all?

I feel, when I'm saying this, that I am already more aware of myself.
It's horrible being so unaware all the time. The world outside the
window is just /there/, and yet every day I wake and it is a threat
and I have problems and there is something dangerous. Why I am
inventing these things, these opinions about other peoples opinions?
Such interference.

What sort of a trick is this, anyway? To tell somebody that they are
wrong when they are completely alright. To lead yourself to believe
you can't cope with things when there is nothing you can't do. Why
would anyone want to take something perfect and try to fix it? It's so
stupid.

--
Paul.

IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:51:04 +0200
From: matrixATnospamroyaume.com
To: Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: What's up?
Message-Id: <35B4AAD8.730BATnospamroyaume.com>

Paul West wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> Do'ya ever get the feeling that you're in a place where there is
> nothing wrong, and yet that you believe there is?
>
> I am wondering, if maybe this is my approach at this time. What if
> maybe I am making much ado about absolutely nothing. What if there
> really isn't anything wrong whatsoever. Who in their right mind would
> want to be in such a heavenly place and yet still believe there's
> something wrong with it?
>
> I keep trying to figure out ways to solve the problems and they just
> keep coming back all the time. But I'm starting to wonder if maybe
> everyone else doesn't know about these problems I have, like, maybe I
> am inventing them.
>
> I keep feeling that there are all sorts of things wrong. I was looking
> through a website about mental health and in some way I thought that
> just about every mental problem applied to me in some way. But why?
>
> Why, if I'm standing smack bang in the middle of paradise, do I go
> around believing that there's so much stuff wrong with me and the
> world? Is it not my judgement, my opinion, my attitude towards the
> world. Why would I want to say that such a beautiful thing is ugly?
>
> There always seems to be a mental cloud in my head and it's like I am
> not very aware of myself. And in that cloud there are so many
> complicated ruts and divvets and tangles. It seems hopeless that there
> could be any permanent solution to it all. I keep getting feelings of
> being childish and weak.
>
> Why would any enlightened person in their right mind want to view
> themselves as incomplete? That's what it's like. It's as though
> everyone and everything is absolutely a-okay and that, even so, I am
> making there be problems. Why would I do that? Why would anybody do
> that - denying that there is nothing wrong at all?
>
> I feel, when I'm saying this, that I am already more aware of myself.
> It's horrible being so unaware all the time. The world outside the
> window is just /there/, and yet every day I wake and it is a threat
> and I have problems and there is something dangerous. Why I am
> inventing these things, these opinions about other peoples opinions?
> Such interference.
>
> What sort of a trick is this, anyway? To tell somebody that they are
> wrong when they are completely alright. To lead yourself to believe
> you can't cope with things when there is nothing you can't do. Why
> would anyone want to take something perfect and try to fix it? It's so
> stupid.
>
> --
> Paul.
yes,i had this problem me too,and i suspect that many people got the
same problem in my city,it's just an intuition or the fruit of my
imagination.(imagination? what's that? )
i think,you don't have to worie about other things that could be bad
around you,but trying to find the good.
if you don't mind about negative energy,you will be able to see and
judge(third eye) what's should you do,what should you think.
think good.
if that can help you or give some clue about that.
i felt like i'm the man seing the world throu a window.it's the only way
i found to block negative energy.
so,after that will be you to judge if you want that bad thinking or how
you will deal with it.
do not fall in face of the apearance.
i think and i have the intuition that one day,we will have to suport us
to learn.
i feel like a child too,but i know that i'm not a child.
even,if everyone think i am or and i hapear like if i was 20 again.
i'm asking a lot of question about the world,and about the time.
i have some clue but i am not sure at 97%.
i don't know what to do about that,maybe we begin to be a little
sublimited and the earth gravity and other energy are heavy?
kundalini arising it's maybe a way to sublime our atoms?
there is much more théories to discoverd about that,throu spirituality
to all most of the science as physic.
i have to read about the apocalypse in the bible to find something.
maybe we are falling in the negative energy of the air element to learn
and find the light or the control of that element.
if you find more solution,tell me please.
i hope for you paul,that you will be ok to find some answers.
bye :)
   yannick
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:56:11 +0200
From: matrixATnospamroyaume.com
To: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Cc: morlightATnospammhonline.net, kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Paul West - -a dream/nightmare?
Message-Id: <35B4AC0B.205ATnospamroyaume.com>

Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
>
> At 01:19 AM 21/07/98 +0200, matrixATnospamroyaume.com wrote:
> >My problem is too
> >control my plexus solar chakra
> Why?
[[[do you have another solution,i'll love to hear you miss :) ]]]
> > and need to be cautious and not let our
> >past eat us.(mine is heavy,i did many error :( )
> Why?[[[i tought that incontroled lotus chakra have the ability to take conscience of our past,our ancient pain and mistake to bite us...it's not ok?]]]
> When do you plan to forgive yourself?
>
> >i hope paul feel good these days.
> I hope everybody feels as Goddess wishes..
> BB, M.
bye :)
   yannick
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:08:43 +0200
From: matrixATnospamroyaume.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Grounded
Message-Id: <35B4AEFB.7A88ATnospamroyaume.com>

Subject:
    Re: Grounded
      Date:
    Tue, 21 Jul 1998 02:09:17 -0700
      From:
    Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
 To:
    matrixATnospamroyaume.com
References:
    1

At 12:26 AM 21/07/98 +0200, you wrote:
>hi i'm yannick.
  Yes, I have read your stuff..
>i'm woried about me and what hapening to me.
  Yes, you are. Why? Your worrying serves nothing. If you need to know
something, Goddess will reveal it to you. Everything is happening
exactly
as it should. Why can you not trust?

>what can open the third eye.been intiated to spirituality?
  Many things, but Goddess, really.
>when i talk about spiritism and théories,i feel a sort of energy in the
>head,but i don't know where(on which chakra).
 >since I've been initiated,when i talk and search new théories,i feel
>something in the head even if i'm talking with a friend or with another
>people.now,that rather normal to me that energie.
>is this the third eye?
  Well, it's gotta be the third eye or crown, but the important thing
is,
you are feeling energy in your head. Bravo! Well done.

>mystress,you know a lot of stuff.could you tell me when the next 7th
>conjonction of the planets will hapen or if that will hapen?
>thank you mystress :)
  Nope. But I know that you have to stop spending so much time mucking
around with predictions, as a way to soothe your worries, and spend more
time focusing on your faith, in the present moment. Here and Now. The
future in in God's hands, and you must trust that.

Bless, M.
yep,that sentence will not let grow me faith in me well miss :)
tell me if i'm wrong,but i'm trying to learn.trying to answers question
too.maybe,my opinion have shocked you.sorry bout that.
miss :)
  yannick
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:25:35 +0200
From: matrixATnospamroyaume.com
To: Kat <KCliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Unconditional Love
Message-Id: <35B4B2EF.4DC6ATnospamroyaume.com>

Kat wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I had a realization last night that has feeled me with joy and a deep sense
> of peace. As I was lying in bed trying to go to sleep and being unable to I
> started to feel , this feeling of Love and peacefulness and then this
> thought came to my mind and I wish to share it with all.
>
> Unconditional Love simply is. It is that simple. The moment we try to put
> it into words or give it thought or try to descripe it to ourselves or
> others
> we have put a condition on it.
>
> In L&L & Understandning,
>
> Katharine
well,i had i dream too tonight.i don't remember but i felt very good and
peacefull with my woried things about the question and the conception of
the universe.
that was a real sleep that night :)
but i lost all the answer,hehehehe,or i can catch them today?
bye :)
   yan
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 18:08:51 -0400
From: "Kat" <KCliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
To: <Kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Unconditional Love
Message-ID: <000001bdb4f4$5d06f980$3ae6d5d1ATnospamdefault>
Content-Type: text/plain;
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Hi Yan,

>well,i had i dream too tonight.i don't remember but i felt very good and
>peacefull with my woried things about the question and the conception of
>the universe.
>that was a real sleep that night :)
>but i lost all the answer,hehehehe,or i can catch them today?
>bye :)

Put a pad of paper by your bed with a pen or pencil. When you wake up write
everything you remember. that way you will not forget and it will train
your mind to remember.

In L&L & Understanding,

Katharine
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 18:19:30 -0400
From: "THOMAS SMITH" <WHITEKNIGHT11ATnospamprodigy.net>
To: "Mystress Angelique Serpent" <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Cc: <morlightATnospammhonline.net>, <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Mail failure:cut that out!
Message-ID: <01bdb4f5$a16e75c0$c25c9cd1ATnospamauthoriu>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: THOMAS SMITH <WHITEKNIGHT11ATnospamprodigy.net>
Cc: morlightATnospammhonline.net <morlightATnospammhonline.net>;
kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Date: Monday, July 20, 1998 10:28 PM
Subject: Re: Mail failure:cut that out!

>At 10:13 PM 20/07/98 -0400, THOMAS SMITH wrote:
>>>At 07:59 PM 20/07/98 +0000, Maureen Heffernan wrote:
>>>>TRY AGAIN??
>>> Stop it, already!!
>
>>WOW!!!
>>
>>Now that was some forceful energy.....yep the Crown is still attached.
>>
>>Namaste'
>>Tom
> You are funny.. next time I'll blow it wide open..:)
> Blessings, Mystress.

I accept! ;)

All the Blessings I have, I send to You
Tom
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 18:24:42 -0400
From: "THOMAS SMITH" <WHITEKNIGHT11ATnospamprodigy.net>
To: <SunSaluteATnospamaol.com>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Re: My bizarre experiences
Message-ID: <01bdb4f6$5bb53a40$c25c9cd1ATnospamauthoriu>
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Anthony...

There is no evil, unless you create one.

Namaste'
Tom
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 15:25:54 PDT
From: "jim privacy" <jprivacyATnospamhotmail.com>
To: fluteATnospamtexas.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Lecture by Flute & friend
Message-ID: <19980721222555.24674.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain

Dear Flute:

Sorry, I'm ignorant. Briefly, what is multidimensional reiki? (Is it
like multilevel marketing? :) ) Thanks.

Love, -Jim


----Original Message Follows----
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:58:51 -0500
From: flute <fluteATnospamtexas.net>

Reiki Masters,
Flute and Dr. Rolando Rodriquez, MD will be giving a Lecture on
Multidimensional REIKI
at the Whole Life Expo in Austin Texas on Sunday, September 20th at
4:00 in Lecture Room #7.
We will also be available in Booth #614 for all three days of the show.
..
chuckle..
bragging and delighted,
flute

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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 18:30:41 -0400
From: "THOMAS SMITH" <WHITEKNIGHT11ATnospamprodigy.net>
To: <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>, "Kundalini" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: Thank you
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>> I hear them but I do not see them. I feel them like a wave of
>> cold ice.
>
>Think warm. Melt them.
>(with the fire of awareness)
>
Snip....

Kat, it may help to look at them before you "melt" them. If "They" have come
forward it gives you the choice of running, pushing it to the side, or
looking within at what it truly is. And then releasing the fear...

The gift of free will is powerful, we make our own reality.

Namaste'
Tom
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 15:34:41 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: matrixATnospamroyaume.com
Cc: morlightATnospammhonline.net, kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Paul West - -a dream/nightmare?
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At 04:56 PM 21/07/98 +0200, matrixATnospamroyaume.com wrote:
>Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
>>
>> At 01:19 AM 21/07/98 +0200, matrixATnospamroyaume.com wrote:
>> >My problem is too
>> >control my plexus solar chakra
>> Why?
>[[[do you have another solution,i'll love to hear you miss :) ]]]
  No, I think you misunderstood me.
  Why do you feel you need to control it?
  
>> > and need to be cautious and not let our
>> >past eat us.(mine is heavy,i did many error :( )
>> Why?[[[i tought that incontroled lotus chakra have the ability to take
conscience of our past,our ancient pain and mistake to bite us...it's not
ok?]]]
 
  Controlling kundalini is kind of illusion. Goddess controls you, not the
other way around. The power chakra in the solar plexus is all about Free
will. When you are afraid that things are not going as they should, the way
you want them to, it will be painful. Your attempts to exert control will
be painful. Control is an illusion.
  If you trust that everything is happening, and has always been happening
according to Goddess will, then you will be healthy. The mantra for the
power chakra is "Not my will be done, but Thy will for me. " The chakra is
fed by counting your blessings, and offering gratitude to Goddess for All
that Is, whether it is bliss or pain she gives you. Evolution of the Solar
plexus is about giving up your Free will to Goddess.
  Yes, allowing the chakra expression, will bring up some issues of the
past to be resolved. This is Goddess plan. This is the way that Kundalini
unfolds. Your resistance to the mechanism of this will cause you grief.
Stop fighting for control.
   The karma must be allowed to show up so you can use your free will, to
choose to give up your free will, and let Goddess take charge of your life.
Then you will feel forgiveness and the past will be healed.
  The mistakes can only bite you if you hang onto them with negative
opinions and judgments of yourself. Forgive yourself, ask for Grace.
Surrender your judgments, and the karma goes too. Ask for forgiveness then
you will get it, but trying to hide from your past will not help it to be
resolved and healed. In the path of kundalini, everything you reject about
yourself will come back to bite you.. so you can give it love and be
forgiven the karma.
   I hope this makes things clearer.
      Blessings, Mystress.

>> When do you plan to forgive yourself?
>>
>> >i hope paul feel good these days.
>> I hope everybody feels as Goddess wishes..
>> BB, M.
>bye :)
> yannick
>
>
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 15:34:33 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: matrixATnospamroyaume.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Grounded
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980721153433.00cfb9c0ATnospammail.fantasycorp.com>
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At 05:08 PM 21/07/98 +0200, matrixATnospamroyaume.com wrote:
>yep,that sentence will not let grow me faith in me well miss :)
>tell me if i'm wrong,but i'm trying to learn.trying to answers question
>too.maybe,my opinion have shocked you.sorry bout that.
>miss :)
> yannick
>
  Do you expect me to hand you faith on a platter? It doesn't work that
way. You choose to have faith or not, and it has nothing to do with what
anybody else says or does. I have read all of your strict ideas about
sexuality and control.. this is the voice of your fear speaking. Fear sez
you cannot have faith because I did not give you the right words.. but
faith does not come from words, it comes from the heart. Your heart. It
comes from within you.
   You seek to control your future, in fear you ask "what happens next?"
What happens next is up to Goddess, not to you. You cannot find Goddess by
looking into the future. She can be found only in the eternal Now.
 
  Here is one for you, reposting private email to the list is considered
very indiscreet and rude. It is against the list rules to do it, but if you
had not broken the rules by reposting this letter of mine, then you would
not know, and you might repost something which someone wanted kept private.
  For me, I don't care if the list sees it, but I do know that it is a very
sensitive issue for some people, and they would feel very hurt by if you
reposted their letter without asking them.
  Also, "Snipping", is cutting out most the repeated stuff as I have done,
here. Folks will appreciate it if you take the time to edit your posts,
before you send them. I have tried to explain this to you before, but you
do not understand me. I hope that if someone on the list can explain how to
do it better, that they will step forward to do so.
    Blessings, Mystress.

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