1998/07/19 04:35
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #521
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 521
Today's Topics:
Re: My Kundalini Experiences [ Ron Grimes <rogrimeATnospamibm.net> ]
Re: Fw: Returned mail: Host unknown [ Lizard4663ATnospamaol.com ]
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ Lizard4663ATnospamaol.com ]
Re: My bizarre experiences [ CKRESSATnospamaol.com ]
tim mulligan [ Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonlin ]
Re: My bizarre experiences [ Ron Grimes <rogrimeATnospamibm.net> ]
Handling difficult kundalini experie [ Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com ]
Kundalini Rising and Common Astrolog [ Ron Grimes <rogrimeATnospamibm.net> ]
Re: My bizarre experiences [ Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com ]
Re: My bizarre experiences [ MoonrisempATnospamaol.com ]
dual soul references [ nbrook <nancyATnospamwtp.net> ]
CORRECT reply-to address [ nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net> ]
re:wearing crucifixes [ "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
enlightment&wisdom [ matrixATnospamroyaume.com ]
Re: Kundalini Rising and Common Astr [ matrixATnospamroyaume.com ]
Re: Thanks [ esther steinacher <esther.steinache ]
Re: FW: AutoPost from Kundalini Reso [ w van der linde <wliATnospamxs4all.nl> ]
Spirits [ esther steinacher <esther.steinache ]
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 16:30:36 -0600
From: Ron Grimes <rogrimeATnospamibm.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: My Kundalini Experiences
Message-ID: <35B1301C.747AFE38ATnospamibm.net>
One other thing I forgot to mention that might be of interest. In September
1997, I was in Sedona, Arizona. In one of the new age shops, there was
someone doing aura photography. So, my wife and I got it done just for the
fun of it. My wife's came out with beautiful colors. Mine came out red - no
other aura colors, just red. The guy who interpreted it said that red either
represented anger or kundalini rising. It was his opinion that it was
kundalini rising. I should mention that by that time, I had already moved
past the anger issues and we were having a very peaceful vacation. My wife
said that, in the photo, it looked like I was enveloped in a red rose.
Don't know how relevant that all is, but thought it worth sharing.
- Ron Grimes
--------------
Ron Grimes wrote:
> I already introduced myself as far as my interest in kundalini from an
> astrological research basis, but I thought I should also tell a little
> about my experiences. I would appreciate any feedback.
>
> My experiences began in 1993 with the feeling of hot fluid rushing up
> the spine in the small of my back. Later, I began to feel a constant
> upward pushing force on the center of the inside of my head, as well as
> in the area traditionally known as the third eye. The physical phenomena
> did not bother me so much; that was easy to grow accustomed to.
>
> What really bothered me was that everything I thought I knew and
> believed began to come crashing down. In fact, I would be unrecognizable
> to the person I was 5+ years ago. I have gone from being a devout
> Mormon, to being avidly interested in Hindu thought, to now feeling at
> peace within Zen.
>
> In trying to convey to people what this has meant to me, I have often
> said, "It has been as though God took out his eraser and went to work on
> me. What is left is the real me."
>
> But to continue with the physical phenomena, during this process of
> being erased, a lot of anger and my own demons came up. The fire of all
> that damaged my nerves, and I ended up with Bell's Palsy on Dec 4th
> 1996, and it's never completely gone away.
>
> As everything stands today, the main physical experience is that my
> brain frequently feels as though someone is sending an electrical buzz
> through it. Often, every thought flees me and only the true Mind
> remains. Time seems to become less and less a factor as it disappears.
> The Great Way shows its faceless face more and more often, but I no
> longer feel a need to pursue That which has always been and is
> unattainable.
>
> "No eye, ear, nose, tongue, body, mind;
> No color, sound, smell, taste, touch, phenomena.
> No realm of sight -- No realm of consciousness;
> No ignorance and no end to ignorance;
> No old age and death, and no end to old age and death;
> No suffering, no cause of suffering, no extinguishing, no path;
> No wisdom and no gain." - excerpt from Heart Sutra
>
> Isn't that where kundalini rising takes us all?
>
> Namaste,
>
> Ron Grimes
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 19:15:09 EDT
From: Lizard4663ATnospamaol.com
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Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Fw: Returned mail: Host unknown (Name server: epec.com: host not found)
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Check out this website: http://users.aol.com/ckress/st.html
Liz
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 19:16:12 EDT
From: Lizard4663ATnospamaol.com
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Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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You can also read "The Stormy Search for the Self" by the Groffs.
Liz
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 20:20:58 EDT
From: CKRESSATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: My bizarre experiences
Message-ID: <39a68ea1.35b13becATnospamaol.com>
It may be true, as lady christos wrote, that nothing is completely evil, or
completely dark. My take on it is that everything is in some way in service
to the Light, willing or not. But that doesn't mean that evil has no real
power to harm us. The extraordinary healer/saint Padre Pio was routinely
besieged by demons who beat the sh-t out of him, on occasion breaking his arms
and legs. He did not seem to fear them or resent their attacks on him.
There is an adage, "The greater the light, the darker the shadow." Could it
be that the purer one becomes, the more savage the powers of darkness (on both
sides of the veil) one must contend with? Or perhaps it was Padre Pio's
complete identification with Christ (he bore the stigmata) that brought out
the shadow creatures with such a vengeance. There may be such thing as being
"too good." Probably not something most of us have to worry about...
El
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 20:54:44 +0000
From: Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonline.net>
To: kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: tim mulligan
Message-ID: <35B10B94.D08E1173ATnospammhonline.net>
Dear Tim,
Found your letter interesting.The "Force" or Spirit enters through the
top of the head (which is the chakra we use to exit this plane upon
death) and proceeds to the base of the spine to the sacral center. If
not raised up then that center becomes too active. (Thus attracting
thingys that can feed off of you.) It can be that staying there produces
them or that now you see with greater clarity what was always floating
around or both. I really don't believe it's up to God to give you an
explanation for when one plays with fire they can get burned. It's up to
you to raise these energies. The higher you go then the more mystical
the experience. Good luck along with my prayers.
Namaste and
Blessings,
+Maureen
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 19:06:32 -0600
From: Ron Grimes <rogrimeATnospamibm.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: My bizarre experiences
Message-ID: <35B154A8.F4414F98ATnospamibm.net>
CKRESSATnospamaol.com wrote:
> It may be true, as lady christos wrote, that nothing is completely evil, or
> completely dark. My take on it is that everything is in some way in service
> to the Light, willing or not. But that doesn't mean that evil has no real
> power to harm us. The extraordinary healer/saint Padre Pio was routinely
> besieged by demons who beat the sh-t out of him, on occasion breaking his arms
> and legs. He did not seem to fear them or resent their attacks on him.
I even seem to recall that Yogananda was bothered by "demons". In fact, I believe
he said that, by lying on his left side, he was bothered less by such things at
night. I couldn't find the reference, so if someone can help out here, it's much
appreciated.
My old yoga teacher, Swami Yogeshanand, used to tell me that each person goes
through their "thousand heavenly visions and thousand hellish visions" before the
morningstar arises and one's day of enlightenment comes.
I have found Zen practice to be the best for me in dealing with heavenly or
hellish visions. Through this practice, one does not contend, cling, or flee. Only
then, when heaven and hell finds no holding place, can reality truly be seen and
enlightenment be possible.
- Ron Grimes
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 22:28:05 EDT
From: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com
To: rogrimeATnospamibm.net, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Handling difficult kundalini experiences - Japa Yoga (Mantra Yoga)
Message-ID: <276f7328.35b159b6ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 7/18/1998 6:07:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, rogrimeATnospamibm.net
writes:
<< I have found Zen practice to be the best for me in dealing with heavenly or
hellish visions. Through this practice, one does not contend, cling, or flee.
Only
then, when heaven and hell finds no holding place, can reality truly be seen
and
enlightenment be possible.
- Ron Grimes
>>
Harsha: Well said. Each person must decide what is the right way or tools
available to them for their spiritual growth. The proper practice of Mantra
Yoga (I do not mean the TM technique here) or Japa Yoga is another very
powerful psychological and spiritual approach worth considering for avoiding
or minimizing, or confronting fearful K-related experiences that occur in
meditation or sleep. The Mantra method is most effective when the meaning of
the Mantra is understood and the right feeling is consciously generated during
the course of practice. Gradually the meaning and the power of the Mantra
sinks into the subconscious and the unconscious and permeates it. The fears
when they rise (in whatever form) are then confronted directly with the power
of the Mantra. The confrontation leads to the evaporations of the fears.
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 20:51:50 -0600
From: Ron Grimes <rogrimeATnospamibm.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Kundalini Rising and Common Astrological Factors
Message-ID: <35B16D55.BC915F01ATnospamibm.net>
Hi again,
It has been pointed out to me that other astrologers have tried, without
success, to find correlations between people who experience kundalini
rising. The reason for this failure arises through various reasons: not
using charts of people who have really had kundalini experiences, poor
analytical abilities, etc.
Recognizing the problems, I initially chose the charts of 15 people who
most people would agree have had legitimate kundalini rising. Among
these charts are people like Paramahamsa Yogananda, Ramakrishna, Swami
Vivekenanda, Osho, Edgar Cayce, etc.
Using Vedic (Hindu) Astrology which uses the real zodiac (sidereal) and
equal house/equal sign, I made the following observations which have
held true, in most cases, in analyzing the charts of people with
kundalini rising, and consequently being able to counsel them
accordingly.
1) In 13 out of 15 charts (86.6%), Venus is either in the 1st house, 1st
sign, 8th house, or 8th sign
2) In those charts (3) where Venus is in the 8th sign and Mars is weak,
the kundalini arousal caused psychiatric problems and/or psychic
disturbances.
3) Of the 13 charts, 12 have Venus as a functional benefic.
The reason that I think the involvement of Venus is crucial is due to
its connection with psychic powers. It also is the mediator between gods
and demons, which could be analogous to heaven and hell, represented in
the anatomy of kundalini as higher and lower chakras.
Concerning point 2, another reason why Venus in the 8th sign with weak
Mars could be the cause of psychic disturbances is because it represents
the female energy and Mars the male energy, this configuration can cause
an imbalance in the flow of male and female energies within the psychic
channels - especially since Venus is in the mystical sign of Scorpio. By
astrologically strengthening Mars in such cases, greater balance can be
achieved in kundalini rising.
I offer my services (free), to members of this list, as it relates to
astrological insights to their experiences of kundalini rising. I will
have to limit such counseling to the experience of kundalini rising,
since I am usually quite busy.
Namaste,
Ron Grimes
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 22:52:21 EDT
From: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com
To: CKRESSATnospamaol.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: My bizarre experiences
Message-ID: <e9819a4.35b15f67ATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 7/18/1998 5:21:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, CKRESSATnospamaol.com
writes:
<< There is an adage, "The greater the light, the darker the shadow." Could
it
be that the purer one becomes, the more savage the powers of darkness (on
both
sides of the veil) one must contend with? >>
Harsha: Why should it be so as a general rule? On the spiritual path, there
is bound to be a struggle between the different conflicting tendencies of the
mind. How these experiences are labeled is a function of a person's
background, spiritual practice, understanding, etc. There are good
explanations for why the Kundalini Shakti leads to bright and pleasant visions
as well as unpleasant experiences. The ultimate end of becoming "more pure"
is to dissolve the ego into the Self. Here, there can be no duality between
the "Power of light" or the "Power of darkness," etc. The Light which gives
light to all experiences (pleasant and unpleasant) is the Self.
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 23:48:11 EDT
From: MoonrisempATnospamaol.com
To: atpATnospambluestone.COM
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: My bizarre experiences
Message-ID: <e985419.35b16c7eATnospamaol.com>
Al,
Just read your post and would like to add that if you are going to send these
Beings anywhere, why not to the Light or ask the angels to come take them
where they need to go. I ask Archangel Michael to come and bind them with the
help of his legions of angels to take them where they need to go and Bless
them and send them on to the Light. I have had entities that have crossed
over and are stuck, *attack* me and I calmly tell them I cannot understand
them and ask them to look up and they will see the Light and for them to go to
the light. As you grow spiritually and are able to attract more light, you
also attract other *beings* as well. Some are lost, some want what you have.
The old saying used to be, The more Light you have, the more you attract the
Darkness. I like to say, "The more Light you have, the more able you are to
see the Darkness!"
Barbara
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 22:31:29 -0600
From: nbrook <nancyATnospamwtp.net>
To: kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: dual soul references
Message-ID: <35B176A0.658048CAATnospamwtp.net>
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As I've mentioned before, I'm working on a book on twin flames/twin
souls. My research has led me to religious scriptures. I have discovered
that the Kabala has a reference to twin flames/twin souls. I'm wondering
if there are any other references in Christianity, Hinduism, Buddhism,
Taoism, other paths.
Briefly, the concept of twin flames/twin souls says that each soul has
its counterpart soul, the other half of our spirit, the one with whom we
were created and are destined to reunite.
My apologies for this off-topic message. I know that many on this list
have extensive knowledge on scriptures and am hoping someone can give me
some clues. Please respond to me privately to avoid more off-topic
messages.
Thank you!
Nancy
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 22:47:15 -0600
From: nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net>
To: kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: CORRECT reply-to address
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I was messing around with preferences in my mail client and forgot to
change so if you have any information for the message I just sent,
please respond to THIS address. The other one is not a workable address!
Thanks (again).
Nancy
Date: Sat, 18 Jul 1998 22:58:20 PDT
From: "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: maniacone2uATnospamhotmail.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: re:wearing crucifixes
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Hi, Kimberly,
About a year ago I met a Cree Shaman,who within 5, at most 10 min. after
meeting him, asked a personal question. "why do you wear a crucifix? I
don't believe in that. Do you wear it because you worship Christ or for
protection?" He said he wouldn't wear the symbol of His death around his
neck, tho he believes in Jesus very devoutly. He knew i was taking
classes from another (coincidence) Cree Shaman, so was really curious.
My response was mainly for protection, altho I do believe in
Jesus and Buddha, but for different reasons. Then I said "yeah! if Jesus
had been runover by a Mack truck i wouldn't were a truck charm on a
necKlace" Don't think it would it would be too effectrive in the area of
protection either .'had a very interesting experience with a hematite
cross, now there is protection!!
Stay healthy-be happy , barb
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Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 03:06:39 +0200
From: matrixATnospamroyaume.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: enlightment&wisdom
Message-Id: <35B1469F.328BATnospamroyaume.com>
hi i'm yannick,
i got caught by the panic cause kundalini power rebeling against the my
human nature.i went to the bar,have had to drink a beer to calm down.
when i enter in my house(or it's has kind of raport with any fear of be
alone)
i'm feel bad when i enter in my house,and more when i am in my computer.
i have checked,it's not the air of my house.energy?
i were questioning about the humanity,the infinite and the creation in
very logical way.
i ask for you all,if you got an hight level answer that bring you always
to be depresive or you went so far that you discover strong rule about
the world?
do you feel like you are alone in earth thinking about théories or found
something beyong the normal life of humanity?
do you feel very inteligeant but not as the normal people think? as:
-we have all a world to change maybe,and many world exist in a paralel
existance.
-the heaven and hell are unified as the infinite,inside of us we have
the dual of this energie in our body.a mixed ancient races.that is
called,life and humanity
tell me if someone feel that she/he got by instinct
very unusual answer from within.
thanks
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 03:19:17 +0200
From: matrixATnospamroyaume.com
To: rogrimeATnospamibm.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Kundalini Rising and Common Astrological Factors
Message-Id: <35B14995.5512ATnospamroyaume.com>
Ron Grimes wrote:
>
> Hi again,
>
> It has been pointed out to me that other astrologers have tried, without
> success, to find correlations between people who experience kundalini
> rising. The reason for this failure arises through various reasons: not
> using charts of people who have really had kundalini experiences, poor
> analytical abilities, etc.
>
> Recognizing the problems, I initially chose the charts of 15 people who
> most people would agree have had legitimate kundalini rising. Among
> these charts are people like Paramahamsa Yogananda, Ramakrishna, Swami
> Vivekenanda, Osho, Edgar Cayce, etc.
>
> Using Vedic (Hindu) Astrology which uses the real zodiac (sidereal) and
> equal house/equal sign, I made the following observations which have
> held true, in most cases, in analyzing the charts of people with
> kundalini rising, and consequently being able to counsel them
> accordingly.
>
> 1) In 13 out of 15 charts (86.6%), Venus is either in the 1st house, 1st
> sign, 8th house, or 8th sign
> 2) In those charts (3) where Venus is in the 8th sign and Mars is weak,
> the kundalini arousal caused psychiatric problems and/or psychic
> disturbances.
> 3) Of the 13 charts, 12 have Venus as a functional benefic.
>
> The reason that I think the involvement of Venus is crucial is due to
> its connection with psychic powers. It also is the mediator between gods
> and demons, which could be analogous to heaven and hell, represented in
> the anatomy of kundalini as higher and lower chakras.
>
> Concerning point 2, another reason why Venus in the 8th sign with weak
> Mars could be the cause of psychic disturbances is because it represents
> the female energy and Mars the male energy, this configuration can cause
> an imbalance in the flow of male and female energies within the psychic
> channels - especially since Venus is in the mystical sign of Scorpio. By
> astrologically strengthening Mars in such cases, greater balance can be
> achieved in kundalini rising.
>
> I offer my services (free), to members of this list, as it relates to
> astrological insights to their experiences of kundalini rising. I will
> have to limit such counseling to the experience of kundalini rising,
> since I am usually quite busy.
>
> Namaste,
>
> Ron Grimes
congrudulation sir,you Emailed more faster as me :)
i know there is link with astrologie,the energie wave of the planet and
star and our chakra.
the ancient mythologie or the ancient théories show many good think
about that as the 4 element*3(as the past the present and the futur in
time and energy inside of our individual world world)
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 19:35:36 +0500
From: esther steinacher <esther.steinacherATnospamxtra.co.nz>
To: matrixATnospamroyaume.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Thanks
Message-ID: <35B20438.AE4ATnospamxtra.co.nz>
Hi
illumination can be found in Robert A Johnsons The Psychology of
Romantic Love,this is a great book and has helped me immensly I recomend
this book highly as i am sure others will as well,definitly worth the
money. good luck
Earle
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 09:14:19 +0200
From: w van der linde <wliATnospamxs4all.nl>
To: DarrenATnospamxs4all.nl, WrightATnospamxs4all.nl, [SMTP:dew1ATnospamaxe.humboldt.edu]
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: FW: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center (fwd)
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> How shall I begin? A bit of background perhaps. I am a student at HSU,
> and am in the long tedious studies of physics major/ applied
> mathematics. Although I am of scientic mind, I am also an artist. Unlike
are u aware of the fact that science appllies quantum mechanics to the
brain
quantum mechanics can explain paranormal science! a good books on that
subject
is the quamtum self by danah zohar. If u search on the internet over
quantum brain u get many matches.
one of my numerous attempts to move the compass needle that I was in
> total concentration, and was breathing or rather panting that I felt a
you did meditate on the needle!
it's a classical way to awaken kundalini.
> burst of energy rush from my spine burning its way to the crown of my
> head, I felt a tremendous heat and actually caused the back of my skull
> to feel as if it had been clamped in a vise. This surge of hot energy,
> for lack of a better term, crept over my crown and around my head like a
> band around my cranium, and tingled into my face. It felt like nothing
> I had ever felt, It was like an electrical current and yet it felt more
> like swarms of insects were crawling beneath my skin, I felt as if my
> hair were standing on end-like I was grasping a Van de Graff generator.
> My breathing became very rhythmic and seemed to have a life of its own.
> The energy worked its way up my spine over my head and into my face and
> down into the core of my body spreading out into my hands and legs-I
> felt a centralizing in my palms of the energy. Afer the energy reached
> the top of my head, I felt a feeling of euphoria, I felt like superman
> and had unquenchable thirst and hunger. Scared that I was experiencing
> some kind of hyperventalation I finally managed to break rhythmic
> breathing and stop whatever it was-it took a few moments for the intense
> tingling to subside. Afterwards I was quite sure what the hell I had
> experienced-I honestly figured I was beginning to hyperventalate and
> suffer from an over accumulation of carbon dioxide.
> It wasn't until I had read quite a bit further in that book,
> that I realized it perhaps may have been Kundalini-whatever that was. I
> have since gone through controlled rhythmic breathing experiments, and
> have experpienced many strange things: highthened awareness, slowing
> down of the sense of time, many coincidental experiences or synchronous
> events. And the strangest yet a monthly cycle, around each quarter moon,
> of activity beginning at the base of my spine whether I intiate it
> I had experience with the power of the moon too. It was in the
> Middle of a heavy kundalini experience. I had great problems
> To stay "grounded' eathing. This is many times awakened during the
> appropriate time in the month by intense running water like that ran
> when taking a bath-before you ever climb into the tub. This sometimes is
> so strong that I can feel the energy of the water swirling as it is
> being drawn from the facet. I also have had many a time when I hear a
> particularly striking piece of music and the Kundalini is awakened this
> happens any time of the month. It is at its heighth, though around
> quarter moons and sometimes full moons.
> I'm sorry, did you say that you have had experiences with the lunar
> cycles as well? If you did tell me more, I would be very much interested
> in hearing what you have to say. I have a feeling that there is a
> definite connection with the lunar cycles-especially since the moon
> effects the tides even more than the sun. I also feel that water somehow
> influences kundalini, or at least it seems to, in my case. Write me and
> tell me what you have experienced and what your thoughts are on the
> subject.
Kundalini starts at the muladhara chakra and then rises trough the
sushumna
nadi. Hiroshi Motoyama says in his book theories of the chakras that
there
is a clear correspondence between the governor vessel meridian and the
sushumna.
Mantak chia has written many books about the tao system which rely on
kundalini
awakening through the meridian system, so it became clear to me that the
chakra
nadi system and the chinese meridian system have a close correspondence.
In the old chinese view matter has 5 states of matter of aggregation.
these states are fire,earth,metal,water and wood. Again to this theory
there is a corresponce between the mooncycles and these 5 states of
matter.
for instance full moon correspond to fire(kundalini) and new moon
correspond
to water. The transformation energy through the meridians also
correspond with
the 5 states of matter. Kundalini does flow through the meridians and is
influenced
by the mooncycles according to old chinese theory.
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 22:31:47 +0500
From: esther steinacher <esther.steinacherATnospamxtra.co.nz>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Spirits
Message-ID: <35B22D83.3A11ATnospamxtra.co.nz>
When i first went through K awakening i also had trouble with spirits
but there came a stage in the first experiance where this just disapared
to much light and they give up,i have not been bothered by them sinse
and quickly pass through this state now, i think my fear had a lot to do
with this,also i was so wired i had not slept for some days and
meditation was the only way i could get rest,about 2 months ago i
attended a house clearing but stayed out side keeping the owner company
as a new tenant was to move in and there had been complaints of an
atmospere all went fine , at the end of it the owner pulled out a piece
of paper and said the new tenants name was Lisa Earle, struck me as a
little bit weird ,i would appreciate comments on this as it is meaning
less to me thanks Earle
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