Kundalini Gateway Email List Archives

line

1998/07/10 12:20
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #504


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 504

Today's Topics:
  Re: Begging Your Pardon [ hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Ba ]
  Re: Freda's "fangs" [ Kathy <deliriumATnospamfull-moon.com> ]
  Re: Begging Your Pardon [ "Harsha IMTM" <harsha1mtmATnospamhotmail.c ]
  Freda as Offending. [ "Chuck O'Connell" <ChuckOConnellATnospamco ]
  Begging Your Pardon [ freda <fredaATnospamnwlink.com> ]
  Captives of the mind [ "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es> ]
  RE: Begging Your Pardon [ "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es> ]
  Re: Begging Your Pardon [ Rainsong <rainsongATnospamvalley-internet. ]
  mrtn74ATnospamProdigy.com [ PShaw86324ATnospamaol.com ]
  Re: What's happening? [ "Jose Arroyo" <jm_arroyoATnospamhotmail.co ]
  Re: Introduction [ "Jose Arroyo" <jm_arroyoATnospamhotmail.co ]
  Re: Captives of the mind [ "Jose Arroyo" <jm_arroyoATnospamhotmail.co ]
  (no subject) [ freda <fredaATnospamnwlink.com> ]
  Freda [ "Wonderer" <mrtn74aATnospamprodigy.com> ]
  Independent Price Survey of 175 Life [ masterpromoteATnospaminternet-promotions.n ]
  Gift - Poem [ "Sessions, JoAnn F. (Artco)" <jases ]
  Crown chakra [ PShaw86324ATnospamaol.com ]
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 15:59:29 -0500 (CDT)
From: hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.)
To: fredaATnospamnwlink.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Begging Your Pardon
Message-Id: <199807092059.PAA08566ATnospamdfw-ix9.ix.netcom.com>

Please don't mute your voice, Freda, we NEED you! You've gone through
intense times lately, expanding your capacity to hold Spirit, and I'm
concerned that you've mistakenly seen list remarks as signals to
contract and pull inward. Your passion is the best thing about you. I
don't hear you as caustic, but if you were, that would only be from
forgetting to love yourSelf. Should you make mistakes, make BIG ones!
Your voice is a gift. Love, Holly
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 16:17:21 -0500
From: Kathy <deliriumATnospamfull-moon.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Freda's "fangs"
Message-ID: <35A5335D.2380241CATnospamfull-moon.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353"

Nope, Freda! Just because you're saying things some people find "tough" to take, doesn't mean
you should stop saying them.

Unless of course you're not being honest ... then, just maybe then it might be best to stop and
think hard on it before saying them...

...and then again, maybe those things, honest or otherwise, are just exactly what somebody on
this list needs to read! A good zing of righteous K-fire never hurt nobody! ;->

I personally find your recent posts amusing *and* quite to the point.

I think sometimes it is difficult when women speak/write assertively and ask questions, when we
have been taught (my experience here) from early on that we are neither to speak out loudly nor
question authority, and that silence is "golden." That said, taking what I call an "uppity
woman" stance from time to time is way cool! It can be pretty unsettling too if you're not used
to it...if this is your case that might be what's going on.

Keep it up!

With love--Kath
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 16:28:31 PDT
From: "Harsha IMTM" <harsha1mtmATnospamhotmail.com>
To: fredaATnospamnwlink.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, WHITEKNIGHT11ATnospamprodigy.net
Subject: Re: Begging Your Pardon
Message-ID: <19980709232831.21063.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain

Freda,

>Be yourself, voice your true feelings please.
>
>Namaste'
>Tom

Harsha: Agreed. Be yourself Freda. You have passion and honesty. Perhaps
at times you sound a bit sharp. But who does not? And you have been
through so much already. It is easy to offend others on e-mail. This is
the nature of the medium. It is also easy to say I am sorry and ask for
forgiveness. You have done that. Your heart is in the right place.
Cosmic stability is not at stake if a comment or two are misunderstood
now and then. Let us smile and move on. Keep the faith.

______________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 19:52:24 -0400
From: "Chuck O'Connell" <ChuckOConnellATnospamcompuserve.com>
To: "INTERNET:kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Freda as Offending.
Message-ID: <199807091952_MC2-52B2-BDF9ATnospamcompuserve.com>
Content-Disposition: inline

Hi Freda,
 If something you say offends someone, then maybe they have too much
ego left....
People get offended in relation to how close to the truth you hit - the
closer you get, the more they
are offended. They can also be offended because you got a fact or attitude
'wrong'.
 So what? Wrong knowledge is nothing. It is to be avoided, not reacted
badly too.

You just keep being 'Yourself'.
Peace,
Chuck.
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 17:00:05 -0700
From: freda <fredaATnospamnwlink.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Begging Your Pardon
Message-ID: <35A55985.1E18ATnospamnwlink.com>

You are all so very wonderful,,, but really,

dear friends,,,
was NOT a list member who set me down on this "snotty" attitude, it was
my petro-man
a little ol' man who, near every morning for 6 years, has been filling
my taknk back up to a quarter.

he came out of his box,,, special,,, to ask me why I was being so ..
snotty.. we talked,,,
he says something has changed,, in my attitude,,

this incident is what made me ponder on the reaction I have had from the
list lately,,,
eeeeGads, please, dont miss-understand me more...
I have not been slighted by anyone on the list...
it is not you kind folks who make me wonder.. there is much love here,
it is a safe place to BE!!
it is the "outside- my- door people",,, who frighten me,
It is not a safe thing to offend these,
I really do need to figure out where this is coming from,,,

had it not been for the reactions to my posts,
I may have thought my petro-man to be out of *his* mind...
it is dangerous for me to be a snot out there,,
need to be a part of the woodwork.. unseen and unheard.

but hey.... I like the stroking... [ ! !petting party..my house..be
there! ]
: ) heeheehee

really, I love all of you,,, your honesty, your occasional swats, and
for sure your love,,,
have helped me be strong through some tough stuff and given me much
laughter
your insights have been a mainstay in my life for a year or so,,, a
blessing.

I just need to figure this out. I am not *giving you up* only got to
give it a little space...

with love,
freda
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 01:19:23 +0100
From: "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es>
To: "K. list" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Captives of the mind
Message-ID: <000401bdab98$644ba660$62f14dc3ATnospamjb>
Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset="iso-8859-1"

Senses can be classified as 'inner' and 'outer'. When waking, the outer
senses are prevailing and when (day)dreaming, the inner senses prevail.
With active K., the difference in 'reality' between 'inner' and 'outer'
world can be reduced to zero. When awake, if you are passing a few people
and hear one of them saying: "in the near future an important event will
take place", you won't take notice, as obviously it isn't intended for your
ears. So how come, when the same sentence is heard with the 'inner' sense,
it is all-important? The 'inner' sense gives the message a semblance of
exclusivity (as nobody else can perceive the message, it *has* to be 'meant'
just for you). If some artwork is seen with the 'outer' sense, it is
perceived as such; if the same artwork would appear for the 'inner' eye, the
feeling of exclusivity would force you to judge it quite differently. This
goes for all senses. For the ego (principle of individuation) the 'inner'
senses are more authoritative than the 'outer' senses, because of the
intimacy of the 'inner' world. For Self, who is the Seer, there is no
difference between 'inner' and 'outer'; mind itself is but an object of
perception. With HTML (animated pictures) it is very easy to show the
deceptive nature of mind. I constructed a demo (75k), making it acceptable
that when it comes to feelings, mind has even more impressive tricks on its
sleeve. Take care...

Jan
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 01:19:27 +0100
From: "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es>
To: "K. list" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>, <fredaATnospamnwlink.com>
Subject: RE: Begging Your Pardon
Message-ID: <000501bdab98$666c6380$62f14dc3ATnospamjb>
Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset="iso-8859-1"

Dear Freda,

It is impossible to satisfy everyone. Who doesn't have some personality flaw
(as judged by some)? On the other hand, life is one continuing lesson and if
someone gives out the message that you're offensive, something can be
learned from it. Instead of hiding or stopping to communicate, ask for the
reason of being judged as offensive. This way, you can learn from it and
eventually adjust a few things. History is full of events where the person
with the correct view was judged to be wrong. Often, the way of presenting a
message can make the difference between being judged 'right' or 'wrong',
proving that the way in which something is presented can be more important
than the message itself.

Jan

+++ Man is primarily ruled by emotion, not by truth +++
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 17:50:54 -0700
From: Rainsong <rainsongATnospamvalley-internet.net>
To: fredaATnospamnwlink.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Begging Your Pardon
Message-ID: <35A5656D.5CCF21F6ATnospamvalley-internet.net>

Hello.

I am also new to the list serve. I like what I am seeing, and already feel
I've been given a great gift by subscribing. Last January, I went through
some major changes, (not sure if kundalini energy was awakened or not, still
searching) but life has been turned topsy turvy ever since, and I LIKE IT!

I have found myself more outgoing, definitely more assertive, and a whole
lot less concerned about what people think of me. At times I seem shallow,
at others, profound... I am learning I can say NO anytime I want, without
fear of the world falling apart.

I love the new independence, and I love to be able to answer people's why
questions with, "Because I choose to." I am functioning very well in the
outside world, with a lot of straight up "I don't owe you an apology or an
explanation." I find most people accept that with grace, and even respect.

Perhaps your lil ol' petro man doesn't like women to be straight forward.
(I know alot of men who want women to remain meek and very submissive.
Especially older men.) Or perhaps you did say something to ping his
feelings, and he was concerned for you.

Any time any one makes assertive, less submissive changes... anytime someone
takes control of their own lives, others are going to resist the changes and
try to keep you in your place... the place they are most comfortable with.
At times, you loose friends over it. Not because you did anything wrong,
but because they are unhappy with the change.... ie. the drunk who loathes
his friend's new sobriety.

Look at both sides, dear Freda. My heart is with you.

Rain

freda wrote:

> You are all so very wonderful,,, but really,
>
> dear friends,,,
> was NOT a list member who set me down on this "snotty" attitude, it was
> my petro-man
> a little ol' man who, near every morning for 6 years, has been filling
> my taknk back up to a quarter.
>
> he came out of his box,,, special,,, to ask me why I was being so ..
> snotty.. we talked,,,
> he says something has changed,, in my attitude,,
>
> this incident is what made me ponder on the reaction I have had from the
> list lately,,,
> eeeeGads, please, dont miss-understand me more...
> I have not been slighted by anyone on the list...
> it is not you kind folks who make me wonder.. there is much love here,
> it is a safe place to BE!!
> it is the "outside- my- door people",,, who frighten me,
> It is not a safe thing to offend these,
> I really do need to figure out where this is coming from,,,
>
> had it not been for the reactions to my posts,
> I may have thought my petro-man to be out of *his* mind...
> it is dangerous for me to be a snot out there,,
> need to be a part of the woodwork.. unseen and unheard.
>
> but hey.... I like the stroking... [ ! !petting party..my house..be
> there! ]
> : ) heeheehee
>
> really, I love all of you,,, your honesty, your occasional swats, and
> for sure your love,,,
> have helped me be strong through some tough stuff and given me much
> laughter
> your insights have been a mainstay in my life for a year or so,,, a
> blessing.
>
> I just need to figure this out. I am not *giving you up* only got to
> give it a little space...
>
> with love,
> freda
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 00:41:09 EDT
From: PShaw86324ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: mrtn74ATnospamProdigy.com
Message-ID: <a2bf6f66.35a59b66ATnospamaol.com>

I need to get a hold of you Cathy, I can't any mail to you.

Liz
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 01:30:41 PDT
From: "Jose Arroyo" <jm_arroyoATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: What's happening?
Message-ID: <19980710083041.25793.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain

<snip>
>
>What an experience, but I also brought home a bit of a bug and now I am
in bed trying to get rid of it -
>

Wish you to get soon well!

>Love and blessings dor
>

Love and Joy,
Jose

______________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 03:28:23 PDT
From: "Jose Arroyo" <jm_arroyoATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Introduction
Message-ID: <19980710102825.23429.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain

Welcome to this list ladychristos.

<snip>
>Another piece to the puzzle so to speak. I hope to be able share some
>of my experiences with you as they continue to develop, and also to be
>able to learn and grow from your experiences and perceptions as well.
>
What a blessing to be in a 'classroom' full of 'students' and 'teachers'
:-). I look forward to share something with you as well.

>I will not address the physical aspects of my life at this time. They
>are not important to me. However anything you would like to know about
>myself, or may way of life feel free to ask, as my life is an open book
>before you.

If there is nothing (you want) to hide it should be like an open book,
shouldn't it? :-)

>There are three quotes that I love that I would like to share, as they
>embody a portion of who I am .
>1. "When there are three of us together, then I am in the company
>of two teachers."
>2. "To believe a thing impossible is to make it so."
>3. "When you get to the place where you would worry... stop and
>pray" or perhaps meditate.
>

Beautiful quotes. Thanks.

>Spiritual well being and knowledge have been my quest for many years,

Where are you now at your spiritual path? Would you like to elaborate on
this?

>now is the time I seek to unite the powers of the spirit with the
powers
>of the body. I would like to find someone of spiritual maturity that
>can help guide me on this quest, in addition to the guidance I receive
>from the Master within.
>
I'm all ears... and I have a tongue (to talk) as well :-)
All spiritual topics that relate to Unconditional Love are of special
interest to me.

The greatest
>I would enjoy hearing from anyone, and welcome all to converse with me
>that we both may learn. Walk in light and unconditional love.
>
>Continue to be,
> ladychristos
>

Lovely intro. Welcome again!

May LOVE embrace your life.
Love and Joy,
Jose

______________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 04:43:13 PDT
From: "Jose Arroyo" <jm_arroyoATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Captives of the mind
Message-ID: <19980710114316.28544.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain

Dear Jan,

This is an interesting posting! Thank you for sharing it.

>Senses can be classified as 'inner' and 'outer'. When waking, the outer
>senses are prevailing and when (day)dreaming, the inner senses prevail.
>With active K., the difference in 'reality' between 'inner' and 'outer'

>world can be reduced to zero. When awake, if you are passing a few
people
>and hear one of them saying: "in the near future an important event
will
>take place", you won't take notice, as obviously it isn't intended for
your

Even if it is not intended to you one may respond to such a sentence.
What I think you wanted to say is that it does not get your attention as
much as in the case of an insight/intuition. But still, everyone may act
differently towards such a sentence.

>ears. So how come, when the same sentence is heard with the 'inner'
sense,
>it is all-important? The 'inner' sense gives the message a semblance of
>exclusivity (as nobody else can perceive the message, it *has* to be
'meant'

When the information is captured from the 'inner' sense, that
information is received as a "knowing" instead of a "thinking (of
knowing)"
The messages received from the 'inner' sense, some may call it
intuition, the Voice-within, etc., has no exclusivity at all. It is an
absolute Truth meant for everyone but maybe not sensed by everyone (as
much or often), or not to the point to others...

>just for you). If some artwork is seen with the 'outer' sense, it is
>perceived as such; if the same artwork would appear for the 'inner'
eye, the
>feeling of exclusivity would force you to judge it quite differently.
This
>goes for all senses. For the ego (principle of individuation) the
'inner'
>senses are more authoritative than the 'outer' senses, because of the
>intimacy of the 'inner' world. For Self, who is the Seer, there is no
>difference between 'inner' and 'outer'; mind itself is but an object of

Inner-outer sensing...
Subjective-objective consciousness...
Thinking (of knowing) versus Knowing...
The mind is going to perceive an object in a personalized way;
and the perceiving of such an object or subject may change from time to
time. Just think how one reacts when one feels tired, joyful, sad, etc.
All these different states of being may induce a different view/approach
of an object/subject although this object/subject did not changed during
that time...
Even without these different moods, the subject perceived will be
subjected to further processing of your (personal) mind...

>perception. With HTML (animated pictures) it is very easy to show the
>deceptive nature of mind. I constructed a demo (75k), making it
acceptable
>that when it comes to feelings, mind has even more impressive tricks on
its
>sleeve. Take care...
>
>Jan

Look around in life and ask yourself what the mind is doing to a person.
Is it showing to a person 'that-what-is' or moreover what a person would
like to see/hear...
Put the mind to rest and listen to 'your' Heart.

Love and Joy and Serenity,
Jose

______________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 06:15:39 -0700
From: freda <fredaATnospamnwlink.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: (no subject)
Message-ID: <35A613FA.1C25ATnospamnwlink.com>

I just got home from the emergency room my face is unrecognizable at
the moment, they say when the swelling goes down it'll be okay,, few
days at most.. then I'll get the pleasure of visiting a dentist, goody!!
As a bonus,,, I have had the hic-ups for more than 4 hours now,,, I
don't know if it is a reaction to the fear,,,, or to the stuff they
injected into my bloodstream,,,, both have a tendency to give me
hic-ups.
There is NOT a doubt in my mind that I am sending out something which is
very disagreeable to others... this morning I took a stick, or a cane or
something in the face.... why?
Best I can think of was I said "mornin'" to Liz-Beth, a woman maybe in
her late 50's, a local street person. Been sayin' "mornin'" to her for
years. We exchanged our usual mornin' and she went around the corner,
when I came back around the corner she let out this "zena"-like scream,
and hit me right smack in the mouth with her stick or something...
she didnt stick around to tell me what the hell it was for,,, the
police figure she must not be taking her medication and will go find her
to make sure *she* is okay... dont get me wrong, I think she NEEDS her
medication too... but damn, I really didnt need this... had she pulled
this with someone else, she may have gotten herself killed... but no,
she chooses to freak out on me and all I could do was sit there and
bleed,,,
only took six stiches, and I got this really nice fang now... and the
pleasure of medical and dental expenses... self employed, no insurance..
now I get to take on more jobs to pay for this.. greaat, get to spend
MORE time out there with the freaks!!!
Something is just not right with me.
I dont know what has happened. Maybe it is just a coincidence, this
woman ~ and the misunderstandings of late.... maybe I am just parinoid,
more than usual,,, but for christ sake,,, my face hurts... and it dont
even look like its mine...
I am afraid. no doubt about it, and these hic-ups just keep going and
going and going...
I am terribly uncomfortable with me. seriously afraid. I dont
understand where this is coming from...
freda
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 10:37:07 -0400
From: "Wonderer" <mrtn74aATnospamprodigy.com>
To: <fredaATnospamnwlink.com>, <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Freda
Message-ID: <000101bdac10$72092ca0$79599cd1ATnospamcathyber.TOMEN.COM>
Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi Freda,

I am sorry for the bizarre things that have been happening to you. I
wanted to tell you that for the past few days I, too, have been
feeling "off center". I feel like I can't be myself because I don't
know exactly what that is. I am encountering somewhat strange
circumstances and then dwelling all day on the way I handled these
situations. [Was that the best way to handle that, etc.]

The only explanation I've come up with is "these are some sort of
tests, or growing experiences". After a while, my "center" will
shift in response to these changes.

For some reason, people we meet are reacting to some sort of vibe you
(and I) are giving out. To be sure, these are people who were
already unstable, and needed to have an encounter of some sort. In
my case, I can see that another individual was given a lesson, but I
am not sure whether she learned from it. I am not sure whether my
behavior, however, was appropriate for myself, even though it clearly
was what she needed to hear. I can't reconcile that. What I did was
tell a stranger (an old lady) who was criticizing the way I was
reading my newspaper, very bluntly, to "leave me alone". She thought
I was littering because I was tucking the paper beside me on the
train as I read portions of it. She is a known niggler, one who I
have observed correcting others behavior before on the train. I feel
she needed to be corrected in this way, but I also feel I failed to
handle the situation lovingly, and that I am incapable of doing so,
or handling it any better. This has bothered me for two days.

Yours must be a very intense vibration, because what is happening to
you is extreme.

I feel that some sort of purification process will help this stage
pass. Cleansing of the body, clothes, house and mind, so nothing
impure is attached to you. Meditate, and ask God to help you get rid
of all thought forms, or negative concepts from the past. Hang in
there! I am feeling more balanced already today, and more
comfortable with myself.

Cathy

-----Original Message-----
From: freda <fredaATnospamnwlink.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Date: Friday, July 10, 1998 9:19 AM
Subject: (no subject)

>I just got home from the emergency room my face is unrecognizable
at
>the moment, they say when the swelling goes down it'll be okay,, few
>days at most.. then I'll get the pleasure of visiting a dentist,
goody!!
>As a bonus,,, I have had the hic-ups for more than 4 hours now,,, I
>don't know if it is a reaction to the fear,,,, or to the stuff they
>injected into my bloodstream,,,, both have a tendency to give me
>hic-ups.
>There is NOT a doubt in my mind that I am sending out something
which is
>very disagreeable to others... this morning I took a stick, or a
cane or
>something in the face.... why?
>Best I can think of was I said "mornin'" to Liz-Beth, a woman maybe
in
>her late 50's, a local street person. Been sayin' "mornin'" to her
for
>years. We exchanged our usual mornin' and she went around the
corner,
>when I came back around the corner she let out this "zena"-like
scream,
>and hit me right smack in the mouth with her stick or something...
>she didnt stick around to tell me what the hell it was for,,, the
>police figure she must not be taking her medication and will go find
her
>to make sure *she* is okay... dont get me wrong, I think she NEEDS
her
>medication too... but damn, I really didnt need this... had she
pulled
>this with someone else, she may have gotten herself killed... but
no,
>she chooses to freak out on me and all I could do was sit there and
>bleed,,,
>only took six stiches, and I got this really nice fang now... and
the
>pleasure of medical and dental expenses... self employed, no
insurance..
>now I get to take on more jobs to pay for this.. greaat, get to
spend
>MORE time out there with the freaks!!!
>Something is just not right with me.
>I dont know what has happened. Maybe it is just a coincidence, this
>woman ~ and the misunderstandings of late.... maybe I am just
parinoid,
>more than usual,,, but for christ sake,,, my face hurts... and it
dont
>even look like its mine...
>I am afraid. no doubt about it, and these hic-ups just keep going
and
>going and going...
>I am terribly uncomfortable with me. seriously afraid. I dont
>understand where this is coming from...
>freda
>
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 11:54:22 -0500 (CDT)
From: masterpromoteATnospaminternet-promotions.net
To: undisclosed-recipients:;undisclosed-recipients:;undisclosed-recipients:;ATnospaminternet-promotions.net;
Subject: Independent Price Survey of 175 Life Insurance Companies
Message-Id: <199807101654.LAA03454ATnospamb.mx.execpc.com>

Please Visit
http://209.84.246.135/budmaster.htm
to see the results of a recent independent survey of over 175 life insurance companies.

Here is a sample:

GUARANTEED MONTHLY PREMIUM FOR $250,000 FOR 10 YEAR TERM:

Age Sex Preferred Health Standard Health
25 M $14.14 $17.18
25 F $11.96 $14.36
35 M $14.14 $17.18
35 F $11.96 $14.36
45 M $30.01 $36.68
45 F $20.47 $25.20
55 M $59.72 $77.85
55 F $44.41 $52.88

WE ARE NOT AFFILIATED WITH THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY...

..so these are not quotes. We are computer specialists, and we publish information. So take advantage
of months of research and development.

DON'T TALK TO AN AGENT UNTIL YOU GET THE FACTS

http://209.84.246.135/budmaster.htm

************
This message complies with the proposed United States Federal requirements for commercial email bill,
Section 301. For additional info see:

http://www.senate.gov/~murkowski/commercialemail/EMailAmendText.html

Required Sender Information:
Budget-Term
P.O. Box 700832
Plymouth, MI 48170

Mass Email Service Provided by:
MasterPromote
120 Broadview Village Square
Suite 315
Broadview, IL 60153
708-795-5317

Per Section 301, Paragraph (a)(2)(C) of S. 1618,
Further transmissions to you by the sender of this email may be stopped at no cost to you by visiting:
http://209.84.246.210/
and typing your name in the "remove me!" box on the left of your screen.
************
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 12:54:30 -0500
From: "Sessions, JoAnn F. (Artco)" <jasessionsATnospamartco.zgate.com>
To: "'Post'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Gift - Poem
Message-Id: <199807101802.NAA02554ATnospamtcusa.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset="iso-8859-1"

This Poem was a gift to me from a very dear heartfriend of mine who has
been a practitioner for some length of time. I wanted to share it with
you.

  

The word came into this world, chalk-white, dappled and alive. The
word came in the beginning and in the end, because there is no
beginning and no end. The word is here. He is here now. He is present,
but quiet, invisible and hidden waiting to be awakened. The word has
no meaning.

I was a man and I walked a narrow path. I walked quietly on the narrow
path and I was followed. I knew that I was followed but I pretended to
be alone. I lived alone, apart. I walked pretending to be myself. I am
not myself. I have lost myself. I am lost in self.

There is a river inside me that flows. It flows through me and keeps
me awake at night. I cannot rest because of this river running
rampant. It is my enemy because it leaves me not alone. I must speak
to you. I must speak to you. Listen to my words. They mean nothing.
Listen to them carefully fully listen. I say nothing, I repeat
nothing. Yet you hear me. Hear me as I grab your collar and pull you
close. Hear my words. They are meant to be heard. Look inside of me.
You will see yourself. Look deeper still and you will know yourself. I
am you inside. We had forgotten. Love is remembrance.

The river is flowing. It never stops. It flows ceaselessly. I run from
it but it is nearby always stirring, bubbling, moving. It causes me to
run to you, to find you. The river wants to drown me. It is my God.
But I cannot abide Him. I will drown in his blood. He will flow
through me until I am left nothing, until I am nothing. God wills to
devour me. I run but He is always near. I am afraid of being swept
away and drowned by Him.

By loving you, I recreate myself. I keep the river from sweeping me
away, but I can only stay afloat so long. Love me ceaselessly like the
river flows. "By the waters of Babylon, I will lay me down." I don't
want to drown. Yet I drown, inexorably.

ladychristos
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 14:41:20 EDT
From: PShaw86324ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Crown chakra
Message-ID: <2bab65e2.35a66051ATnospamaol.com>

I've been having experiences at night, usually when I'm asleep, my whole brain
or third eye or ? fills up with light. Could that be energy trying to get to
my crown?

Liz

blank
DISCLAIMER!

Home | Archive Index | Search the archives | Subscribe
blank
K.  List FAQ | Kundalini FAQs | Signs and  Symptoms | Awakening Experiences | K. list Polls | Member Essays | Meditations | List Topics | Art Gallery | Cybrary | Sitemap | Email the moderators.
line
  • Feel free to submit any questions you might have about what you read here to the Kundalini mailing list moderators, and/or the author (if given). Specify if you would like your message forwarded to the list. Please subscribe to the K-list so you can read the responses.
  • All email addresses on this site have been spam proofed by the addition of ATnospam in place of the at symbol symbol.
  • All posts publicly archived with the permission of the people involved. Reproduction for anything other than personal use is prohibited by international copyright law. ©
  • This precious archive of experiential wisdom is made available thanks to sponsorship from Fire-Serpent.org.
  • URL: http://www.kundalini-gateway.org/klist/k1998/k98d00508.html