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kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #480


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 480

Today's Topics:
  Re: Past Lives and Unfinished Karma [ "Wonderer" <mrtn74aATnospamprodigy.com> ]
  Re: Loss and Acceptance [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ]
  Re: How? [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
  No Wolf [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
  why awaken k??????? [ "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
  West looks East [ sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack) ]
  Re: West looks East and death [ Matthew Bastress <mattbATnospamchrysalis.c ]
  VIOLET FLAME AND THE 6th CHAKRA [ "Magne Aga" <magneagaATnospammonet.no> ]
  Re: West looks East and death [ sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack) ]
  Re: Sound Meditation [ "Samuel Abebe" <sabebeATnospamrtinews.com> ]
  Re: Loss and Acceptance [ Jude1ATnospamwebtv.net ]
  Re: Difference according to Ken Wilb [ Melody <melodyATnospampowernet.net> ]
  Re: Difference according to Ken Wilb [ Melody <melodyATnospampowernet.net> ]
  re: your post to Debbie [ "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
  Re: paul west [ "Lobster" <lobsterATnospamdial.pipex.com> ]
  k-related problems [ "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
  Focus [ PShaw86324ATnospamaol.com ]
  Etherium Gold [ Jude1ATnospamwebtv.net ]
  Re: Etherium Gold [ PShaw86324ATnospamaol.com ]
  Re: Etherium Gold [ Melody <melodyATnospampowernet.net> ]
  Re: Sound Meditation [ Wonderer <mrtn74aATnospamProdigy.com> ]
  Changing and Learning [ Wonderer <mrtn74aATnospamProdigy.com> ]
  Re: Focus [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ]
  Change [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ]
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 13:41:56 -0400
From: "Wonderer" <mrtn74aATnospamprodigy.com>
To: "Mystress Angelique Serpent" <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Cc: "Dhyani \"Debbie\"" <debhATnospammindspring.com>,
 "Kundalini list" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Past Lives and Unfinished Karma
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Dear Mystress,

Thank you for your wonderful words. I am learning that you are quite
wise. I do not fully comprehend your message, but I also know you
are right. You also zeroed in on the "fear", which I have recently
tried to have removed, but which does not all leave at once. I will
print this out and meditate upon your kind words. And, unlike my
attitude on the astral plane, I will try to "get it".

Cathy

-----Original Message-----
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Wonderer <mrtn74aATnospamprodigy.com>
Cc: Dhyani "Debbie" <debhATnospammindspring.com>; Kundalini list
<kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Date: Friday, June 26, 1998 7:00 AM
Subject: Re: Past Lives and Unfinished Karma

>Wonderer wrote:
>> I thought I had not
>>suffered enough in the previous life and that was the reason I was
>>being returned. I now see the flaw in that logic, because I have
>>learned that suffering is totally unnecessary to spiritual growth.
> You have learned it now in this plane, but you knew it already
before you
>came in. You structured the suffering so that it would be a focus of
your
>attention long enough to realize what you know. Everything is
already
>happening in your highest good.
>>
>>It is surprising but everything that happens to us has been agreed
to
>>by all parties. We just may not remember. I try to stay conscious
>>and realize what I am agreeing to. <...>
> You gonna go crazy worrying at that rate. You are trying to
exercise
>control in a place more suited to surrender. You cannot ever know
all of
>the manifold repercussions of any decision you make. Consciousness
isn't
>big enough to comprehend all of the ripples in the hologram.
> Time to give up the decision making, leave it All up to Goddess to
decide,
>in your highest good and with harm to none.. remembering always that
>unconditional love and limitless creative manifestation can easily
come up
>with something more wondrous and fabulous than your consciousness
could
>ever think of... for any situation.
> You have developed a good habit of mindfulness, fueled by your
fear of
>making a wrong decision. Bonus. Now turn that mindfulness to giving
the
>decision making up to Goddess to handle, each time it comes up.
> Goddess will give you back something better, in reward for your
faith.
>Good deal, eh?
> Every fearful thought.. every worry... is coming from your egoic
free
>will which is a gift of Goddess.. so give to Goddess what belongs to
>Goddess and send all that old karmic junk out of your head in a
river of
>white light.
>
>> But it helps understanding
>>that all parties, on a higher and more evolved plane of
>>consciousness, agreed.
> There are no accidents, and the pain of K-comes of the resistance.
> Yes indeedy.. you agreed to it all long ago.. so why are you still
>worrying about it? The decisions you think you are making you were
led to
>make.
>
>>Life is still very bizarre, and I'm still left wondering ... That
is
>>why my e-mail name is Wonderer.
>>
>>Cathy
>>
> Well, as long as you are hanging onto the old karma by pinning it
down
>and dissecting it like the pickled frogs in grade 8 biology, it will
be
>there for you to wonder about.
> Your ego can come up with "reasons", under the excuse of offering
>"lessons" and "understanding", forever, and it does not mean a
thing. It is
>simply the game of resistance ego likes to play when K. asks to
flush out
>some old grotty karma. Ego gets pain from the resistance, which
reaffirms
>for it that it is alive and separate from Goddess.. and you agreed
you did
>not want to "learn" like that anymore.
>
> The more you hang on to wondering and reasons, the more energy you
put in
>resistance to the K. which is only showing you these movies coz it
is
>cleaning your closets politely and wants permission to throw them
all away
>so it can give you something better.
>
> Things happen because Goddess wills it. End of reasons.
> When you can encompass the mind of Goddess, you will know why. If
you are
>lucky She might decide to let you see the big picture before you
pass on,
>and you will understand a little, but if it seems She does not, it
is coz
>your brain isn't big enough to hold it.
> Decide to get out of the past, unpin the poor froggies and give
them a
>decent burial, so they can turn back into the mud and sunshine from
whence
>they sprang. You can learn a lot more about them by watching them
hopping
>around, alive in the moment than by taking apart ones that are long
dead.
> Release all your ideas about what you think you have learned, and
ask for
>something even better.
> Blessings, Mystress.
>
Date: 26 Jun 98 19:50:02 +0000
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Loss and Acceptance
Message-Id: <3593F570.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>

Dear Kristin,

> Okay . . . Today I lost a friend who I have know since I was five. She
> was raped and beaten to death, in her own house. I have been trying
> to accept my feelings for all of this, and accept that she is gone,
> and I can do nothing but remember all the memories in which we
> shared. I am not sure, all I know is that I am falling apart.

It may take some time for there to come acceptance and forgiveness.
There could be quite some years before this has fully flowered to
give you back that which is precious. Sexual abuse is such an
injustice, it makes me sick. Please, don't let anger take away your
life.

You will want to lash out, asking why, asking how, searching for a
reason. It must all be gone through, all the way. At some point after
all the questions you will arrive simply at the absolute fact that it
was unjust, and as you stand for that your heart will demand light
again.

In the meantime I know how you are feeling, and you just need to hold
a hand right now. Several years ago my sister was sexually assaulted
on several occasions by three youths. I had a vague idea that
something was going on but I was not sexually active at that age and
did not understand. One day I saw it happening. Not long after, she
was raped by the eldest. Nothing was ever the same again.

For a while you may take a sideline trying to accept, perhaps
conceptually, that you have forgiven. But deeply, deeply inside I know
your true pain. Please, do not let hatred take your life too. I shed a
tear for you now. I am here for you.

With love,

--
Paul.

IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 15:44:59 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: How?
Message-ID: <3593FA3A.9B2905DEATnospammail.snet.net>

UweJohannATnospamaol.com wrote:

> May be we are on stage, but sometimes it needs more courage only to listen
> to, realy listen.

The distinction between performer and audience is imaginary.
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 15:50:11 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: No Wolf
Message-ID: <3593FB72.E9791293ATnospammail.snet.net>

Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 12:56:40 PDT
From: "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: magnus.zottermanATnospampictura.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu, margolisATnospamtransbay.net,
 onarresATnospaminreach.com6, DruoutATnospamaol.com
Subject: why awaken k???????
Message-ID: <19980626195640.798.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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  Hello Magnus,
      I don't know other folks' reasons. My K was awakened by 8 hrs.of
praying to God on a Sat.,followed by 6-7 hrs. of sleep, and then 4,
perhaps 5 hours more of praying till i was exhausted, on Sun.
      I was asking God for help with a very,very serious problem. I was
also asking for help from Jesus, Mary, St. Michael, and later on from my
Higher Self. I got the help I asked for and more. i got K. BIGTIME. It
has all been worth iy. At the time I hadn't heard about K, no therapist
ever told me about it. Learned about K after buying a hundred or so
books on depossession, psychic protection, psychic healing,Huna and
concurrentlytaking meditation classes, psychic healing classes, and
Kundalini Yoga classes.
I've experienced bliss, vision of a dazzling being with a celtic
cross,seeing auras,white energy,dark gray energy,etc., etc.

Over 3 yrs. and $6,000 later (not counting cost of books that
fill three 3'x6' book cases) i stumbled on to the K list. The K listers
have saved my sanity. If i had gone to a psychiatrist instead
of hypno and psychotherapists,and one psychologist, i am sure i would
have been at a happy (misnomer) farm,or at the very least on meds.
All the info here has helped me to sort out weird symptoms so
i usually can figure out the source and how to handle same.Especially
helpfull are the related web sites, including Kurt Keutzers FAQ paper.
BE HAPPY 'aloha, barb

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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 20:31:18 GMT
From: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: West looks East
Message-ID: <35940513.76607103ATnospammailhost.worldnet.att.net>

I see in the end, the laughing buddah, the laughing don Juan, the
laughing Christ and laughing Goddess. The laughter at our foolishness
takes all the pain away.

A storyteller, is a storyteller.
An actor is an actor.
An old seer is an old seer.
And life goes on regardless.

It's a cosmic joke!!!!!!

Jack
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 98 17:17:05 EDT
From: Matthew Bastress <mattbATnospamchrysalis.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: West looks East and death
Message-Id: <199806262117.RAA29293ATnospamlevi.chrysalis.com>

Joke? That makes me sick. That's madness.

surrender now, evil one, or else why have you come?
her thick black waters receive your screaming and humiliate you.

your excesses are betrayed, for here is awareness unconditional.
surrender now, evil one, you cannot reach her.

she has borne you forever,
your tears fill her womb,
her love wonders at your pain.
you have burned, ravaged, and lost everything.

and here in the descended space is a valley of quiet
where she awaits to accept your surrender.
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 23:54:09 +0200
From: "Magne Aga" <magneagaATnospammonet.no>
To: "Matthew Resmer" <matthewATnospamadacel.com.au>, <melodyATnospampowernet.net>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: VIOLET FLAME AND THE 6th CHAKRA
Message-Id: <199806262257.XAA09106ATnospamumbukta.monet.no>

----------
* Melody
 
> These sort of experiences occur with an influx of the 6th chakra, don't
they?

My answer is "yes" and "no".

When the blood circulates from the hearth to the head, parts of it becomes
"etherized", "prana-matter", so to say. But a phenomenon near the 3rd eye
can be observed exactly when people is about to wake from sleep. And if
people knew how much they reveal about themselves in these process, they
would have been carefull in falling asleep on places with many people !

There's a "fight" going on, so to say, between an upstream and a downstream
energy form just before the awakening, and in very egocentric people, one
can see BROWN at the 3rd eye. If the opposite is true, one observes VIOLET.

Personally, I connect the violet flame with the root chakra, because
there's a meditation of breathing the violet in through the head and
breathing it out beneath the sexual organs together with the dross of
serfdom.

I would love some input, because different colour scemes used on the
chakrams, have caused uneccessary quarrels. How does a mountain look like,
when it's possible to view it from different angles ? Any comments ?
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 22:38:54 GMT
From: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: West looks East and death
Message-ID: <359422b0.84188732ATnospammailhost.worldnet.att.net>

On Fri, 26 Jun 98 17:17:05 EDT, you wrote:

Joke? That makes me sick. That's madness.

Whatsa matter, can't take a joke?

There's been too much madness on this list of late.

Jack
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 18:44:20 -0400
From: "Samuel Abebe" <sabebeATnospamrtinews.com>
To: "Wonderer" <mrtn74aATnospamPRODIGY.COM>
Cc: "Kundalini list" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Sound Meditation
Message-ID: <01bda153$f57b54e0$10646464ATnospamsabebe>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Wonderer <mrtn74aATnospamPRODIGY.COM>
To: Samuel Abebe <sabebeATnospamrtinews.com>
Cc: Kundalini list <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Date: Thursday, June 25, 1998 10:11 AM
Subject: Re: Sound Meditation

Dear Samuel,

Thank you for all the information on the inner sound. I can only
sometimes hear the sound at will. However, meditation will often
bring it about. Perhaps the sound contains all the music of the
universe, but it sounds like a flat tone to me. I will try to
experience it more fully next time.

I sometimes correlate this with a vision of what looks like zillions
of atoms, with red and green molecules, spinning tightly about each
other. It is very hard to focus in close on any one pattern, but
sometimes I get a close glimpse. I've been seeing these since I was
a small child.

Any idea on what this is?

Experience of Inner Light and Sound happen when one has aligned him/herself

to the source, so to speak. At the beginning, they are sporadic and so
subtle that they can be mistaken for one's imagination. But as the alignment
gets stronger, the experiences also get stronger. One way to be with the
experience is to keep an empty mind, not an open mind but an empty one. This
allows for the experience to take root and take its own course. On the other
hand, if you try to figure it out and label it, the experience becomes
filtered and therefore limited. The Sound Current is not only sound it is
also light, shape and "information" for lack of better word.


Thanks again!

Cathy

***************
Samuel wrote:

>Many scriptures make strong
>connection between the inner sound and the source. Some suggest
>that the sound and the source are one and the same. "In the
>beginning was the word, the word was with God and the world was
>God." In translation, "word" was used instead of "Logos"

Very true! How did I miss that one!

>There are three stages to the sound meditation.

>First one masters listening to it. This involves paying attention
and >trying
>to hear the sound until one is able to hear it at will.

>Second, the listing changes into feeling. One starts to feel it
>throughout
>the whole body.

>Finally, one merges with it. Not much can be said about that. To
>merge with it is to merge with the source.

snip

>The best thing to do of course is to find someone who is established
>in the sound current and hang around him or her. When you do this,
>a process of fine-tuning happens and you will start to hear the
>current more and more.

Do you know of any connection to a particular place or room that
helps one hear the sound?

Basically, any place that has been blessed with some kind of spiritual
activity vibrates with the sound current. It could be a room that someone
has meditated at, a temple, a church or a mosque where many have gathered
with a certain state of mind and emotion to commune with their deity.

What will be interesting is if you would meditate in a particular room in
your house regularly and after about a month or so go there and listen to
the Sound and see what happens.

Blessings to you!

Samuel
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 18:09:36 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jude1ATnospamwebtv.net
To: KristinATnospamaol.com, Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Loss and Acceptance
Message-ID: <265-35942A30-2152ATnospammailtod-122.bryant.webtv.net>

My Dear Kristin,

My heart goes out to you on your loss. Perhaps you are doing just what
you should be doing by rembering the good things and experiences you
had with your friend. I cannot possibly know your pain as I have never
experienced a murder in my inner circle of friends. However, I have
been raped and can understand that pain. It took a long time to get
over it and begin to understand what reasons there could be for such a
horrible experience. But now, years later, I can say I have travelled
many roads I otherwise would not have. You don't "get over" these
things, you just accept that they have happened and then get on with
your life as best you can. Know that she is in a better place and is
with you in your pain. Right now you probably need to grieve for your
loss and remember the love and experiences you shared with your friend.
She will be with you in spirit. Once again my heart goes out to you and
I'lm sending you all the Love and Light I can muster. this existence.

LOVE AND LIGHT ALWAYS
Judy
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:18:47 -0700
From: Melody <melodyATnospampowernet.net>
To: Lobster <lobsterATnospamdial.pipex.com>
CC: "K. list" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Difference according to Ken Wilbur
Message-ID: <35942C57.F8B47A20ATnospampowernet.net>

It sounds to me like Ken Wilbur is describing a charismatic trance in which you
are detached from your feelings (see http://trance.ch)
Melody

Lobster wrote:

> In the interview, Ken Wilber uses the word "prerational" and the
> interviewer asks the meaning of the word:
>
> Shambhala: Prerational?
>
> Ken Wilber: Yes, the confusion of feelings with spiritual awareness.
>
> Shambhala: Spiritual awareness isn't feelings?
>
> Ken Wilber: No, it is not feelings, it is the awareness of feelings. And
> that awareness itself is free of feelings and free of thoughts, and
> allows both feelings and thoughts to float by, just as clouds float by
> in the emptiness of the sky. But if you confuse experiential feelings
> with that emptiness, then you will confuse emotionalism and
> sentimentalism with spirit, and this is often the first step on a
> regressive slide into the unending world of your own subjective
> fascination. You don't transcend the self, you simply feel the self
> intensely, and this is called "spiritual." This is a bit of a mess,
> really.
>
> Be Well
> Lobster
>
> Lobster Web Pages: http://ds.dial.pipex.com/town/park/gcn23/
> YinYana Buddhism, Alchemy, Sufism, Time Travel, Satanism and String
> Yam?I AM Web site: http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/park/gcn23/iam/iam.html
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:21:56 -0700
From: Melody <melodyATnospampowernet.net>
To: Lobster <lobsterATnospamdial.pipex.com>, "K. list" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Difference according to Ken Wilbur
Message-ID: <35942D14.8AE505AFATnospampowernet.net>

Sorry, the correct url for that info is:
http://web.eunet.ch:80/trance/

Melody wrote:

> It sounds to me like Ken Wilbur is describing a charismatic trance in which you
> are detached from your feelings (see http://trance.ch)
> Melody
>
> Lobster wrote:
>
> > In the interview, Ken Wilber uses the word "prerational" and the
> > interviewer asks the meaning of the word:
> >
> > Shambhala: Prerational?
> >
> > Ken Wilber: Yes, the confusion of feelings with spiritual awareness.
> >
> > Shambhala: Spiritual awareness isn't feelings?
> >
> > Ken Wilber: No, it is not feelings, it is the awareness of feelings. And
> > that awareness itself is free of feelings and free of thoughts, and
> > allows both feelings and thoughts to float by, just as clouds float by
> > in the emptiness of the sky. But if you confuse experiential feelings
> > with that emptiness, then you will confuse emotionalism and
> > sentimentalism with spirit, and this is often the first step on a
> > regressive slide into the unending world of your own subjective
> > fascination. You don't transcend the self, you simply feel the self
> > intensely, and this is called "spiritual." This is a bit of a mess,
> > really.
> >
> > Be Well
> > Lobster
> >
> > Lobster Web Pages: http://ds.dial.pipex.com/town/park/gcn23/
> > YinYana Buddhism, Alchemy, Sufism, Time Travel, Satanism and String
> > Yam?I AM Web site: http://dspace.dial.pipex.com/town/park/gcn23/iam/iam.html
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 16:54:13 PDT
From: "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: lobsterATnospamdial.pipex.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: re: your post to Debbie
Message-ID: <19980626235413.5411.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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   Hi,
     
 Thanks for sending that wonderful message to Debbie. also thanks for
copy to the rest of K folks. Gosh a wish i was as articulate as you and
and 10 or 12 other Klites!!!
 Mystress should have had a pool on how long the latest unlister would
be really unlisted/non lurking. giggle, giggle, barb

 

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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 21:24:01 +0100
From: "Lobster" <lobsterATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: "Dan Margolis" <dmargolisATnospamabm.com>, <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: paul west
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>Dan MargolisATnospamABM
>06/26/98 09:52 AM
>
>Dear Ms. Serpent,
>
> It has become apparant to me, and maybe to other list members, that
>Paul West at this point is detrimental to the list. He seems to have no
>ability to listen to what people are saying to him and to modify his
>behavior based on suggestions from the group. This is one of the
>fundamental requirements to any spiritual progress, whether it is k-related
>or not. If you ignored the Goddess when she approached you through others
>or through yourself,, you would be very unhappy right now.
>
> I would sincerely request that you unsubscribe him, because at this
>point he doesn't seem capable of learning.


However there is person who listens even less. Refuses to acknowledge the
existence of 'K'. Posts irrelevant, rude, unspiritual and downright
confrontational posts. Yes that's right - I demand that I be removed from
the list before Paul.

Be Well
Lobster
(thinking of the turnips)

> Dan M.
>
>
>The teacher replied, "I suggest you stop up your ears, and only think of
>turnips."
>
>"Should I do this during the meditations and exercises or after?"
>
>"You should do this instead of attending the meditations and lectures."
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 17:58:16 PDT
From: "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: debhATnospammindspring.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: k-related problems
Message-ID: <19980627005817.290.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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  Hi debbie,
Just a note to tell you that YOU ARE NOT ALONE in this K
awakening/awakened predicament. I think a lot of us have gone thru as
close to a living hell than any rational being could care to be. Ahh,
closer! heh, heh.
      When i look back on all the, at the time seemingly endless
sleepless nights. all those wasted hours being harassed physically an d
mentally, whew! 'should've turned the outside lights on and pulled weeds
out of the gravel road, could 've vented my fear/anger of what was
happening instead of stewing in it. adding weeds to the compost pile
would've been constructive also.
  Ohh well! live, learn , be happy!! barb

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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 21:00:47 EDT
From: PShaw86324ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Focus
Message-ID: <b5b36cc.35944441ATnospamaol.com>

I am having problems focusing on just one thing, one path, one EVERYTHING; I
am so indecisive. Any advice?

Liz
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 20:05:08 -0500 (CDT)
From: Jude1ATnospamwebtv.net
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Etherium Gold
Message-ID: <266-35944544-2485ATnospammailtod-122.bryant.webtv.net>

Anybody out there have any experience with or know much about "etherium
gold"?

Judy
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 21:07:04 EDT
From: PShaw86324ATnospamaol.com
To: Jude1ATnospamwebtv.net, Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Etherium Gold
Message-ID: <91da96d4.359445b9ATnospamaol.com>

Is that like "Panama Red" LOL?

Liz

Sorry, I couldn't resist.
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 18:03:01 -0700
From: Melody <melodyATnospampowernet.net>
To: Jude1ATnospamwebtv.net
CC: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Etherium Gold
Message-ID: <359444C4.DE20BE1DATnospampowernet.net>

Try:
http://www.etheriumgold.com/

Jude1ATnospamwebtv.net wrote:

> Anybody out there have any experience with or know much about "etherium
> gold"?
>
> Judy
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 21:18:48 -0700
From: Wonderer <mrtn74aATnospamProdigy.com>
To: Samuel Abebe <sabebeATnospamrtinews.com>
CC: Kundalini list <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Sound Meditation
Message-ID: <359472A8.60C1ATnospamProdigy.com>

Cathy wrote:

Do you know of any connection to a particular place or room that
helps one hear the sound?

Samuel Abebe wrote:

What will be interesting is if you would meditate in a particular room in
your house regularly and after about a month or so go there and listen to
the Sound and see what happens.

Samuel,

You are right on target. Of the three places where I prefer to meditate
in my home, I have heard the sound quite loudly in two of these areas. I
was "wondering" if the areas were charged.

Thank you for sharing your wealth of knowledge.

Cathy
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 1998 21:32:49 -0700
From: Wonderer <mrtn74aATnospamProdigy.com>
To: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
CC: Kundalini <Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Changing and Learning
Message-ID: <359475F1.1E20ATnospamProdigy.com>

Mystress,

You do have a great gift. Thank you again for the words you sent my way.
 I am finding it easier to connect with my higher self as a result. We/I
had a most amusing exchange on the way home (on the train). I broke out
laughing twice (softly), and had to wonder if people noticed.

Cathy


I do have some memories, and some ability to see
> both sides of the veil, but usually when I post to the list like that, it
> is coz Spirit is giving me the words someone needs to hear. Here and now in
> the moment.
> Blessings, <Mystress.
>
Date: 27 Jun 98 03:37:42 +0000
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Focus
Message-Id: <359467BC.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>

> I am having problems focusing on just one thing, one path, one EVERYTHING; I
> am so indecisive. Any advice?
>
> Liz

Congratulations.

Wherever you are, you're fine.

<a smile is born>

--
Paul.

IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Date: 27 Jun 98 03:49:41 +0000
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Change
Message-Id: <35946BAC.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>

Hi.

How do you handle it when you go through a change, on your own,
unaccompanied by others? I am having problems juggling the emerging
reality of kundalini with the rest of the world. I am not prepared to
take sides or play favouritism any more. Stepping off the beaten track
into my own path is so daunting but so necessary. I just wondered what
it has been like for others.

--
Paul.

IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk

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