Kundalini Gateway Email List Archives

line

1998/05/22 06:28
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #393


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 393

Today's Topics:
  Re: solong [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
  Strange Emotion For No Reason [ "Brent Blalock" <blal0004ATnospammaroon.tc ]
  Re: Strange Emotion For No Reason [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
  "Turn Your TV Into A Cash Cow!" [ ziggyATnospamcomic.com ]
  Re: "Turn Your TV Into A Cash Cow!" [ valerie cooper <madammumATnospamptialaska. ]
  Sattelite Glitch [ vacuous valerie <madammumATnospamptialaska ]
  RE: "Turn Your TV Into A Cash Cow!" [ "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo. ]
  RE: Aura colors [ "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo. ]
  RE: Subconscious pressure [ "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo. ]
  Re: Re: solong [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 19:19:25 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Sunil R Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
Cc: Edward Gurd <trexisATnospamjuno.com>, kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: solong
Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980521191925.008cb100ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

  My friend, you are so beautiful I can only love you massively. You are my
wise grandfather and my child.

At 03:58 PM 21/05/98 +0500, Sunil R Peswani wrote:
> Prayer/devotin though helpful was not for me as per Inner Voice.
>I am on the right path. Aperson moving towards Moksh passes thro dark
>night of soul once before his last ego dissolves.
   The inner voice knows you best.
  Everyone is on the right path.
  Goddess is perfection and only creates perfection... whether we can see
it thru the veil or not.

> On my path of Boddhisattva/adept/master a second night of dark
>soul comes. this experience is different from earlier one.
> Moreover a conviction that Higher Intelligent Energy is totally in
>control and nothing further can be added to this Universe. Everything we
>do is a game, so this temporary withdrawl.

  yes. It is all a game. There is nothing to be done: everything possible
thru limitless manifestation already has/will happened in the eternal
moment of Here and Now.. In the Now the universe has already collapsed into
a black hole and we are already all reunited with the One..and at the other
end of eternity, we have never left the One and nothing has been created..
and the whole shebang everything in between actually exists in the here and
now also, and no where else but in our illusions/ego conceptions of the
"past".. which is actually as mutable as the future.. which is to say:
infinitely and not at all.. Nothing..
  So you were taking everything so seriously, warring against "dukka" and
making a hero pose of your martyrdom.. and now you find out you were
tilting at windmills in somebody's idea of a practical joke.. so you are
sulking disappointed?
   Well, from the point of view of spirit.. that is hysterically funny.
  But then, laughter is the nature of spirit, it thinks everything is
funny.. it ROTFLOL at the Holocaust and El Nino.. the overthrow of Tibet
was simply coz the Tibetans showed they are ready for bigger challenges by
being so evolved.... Goddess provides. Unconditional love, no judgments.
 ... and sometimes when I have been deep in my "stuff" and heard this
laughter it has made me wish spirit has a neck I could throttle.. :D Well,
it does.. infinite ones.. but I am really already throttling myself, with
that attitude. I AM all that is..

> I am in search of a list on Buddhism which can help me to either
>break or strengthen this Boddhisattva conviction of mine though even this
>also does not matter.
>Nothing (peswani)
>
  O my beloved, of course it matters. It is about your compassionate
nature, and your happiness.
  It is the most important thing in the universe created by Godling
Ram-peswani-sashara-nothing---> All that Is.
  In a universe where nothing matters, it is as important as nuclear
underground testing in India, the unified field theory, starving children
in Africa.... that is, it is exactly as important to you as you decide to
make it in your ego conceptions... which are your whole world of self.
 A gift of Goddess, that She gave you because She/you wanted to see what it
was like for a while to perceive your/Herself as separate from All that Is.
So you took birth in a human body.. put on a veil..
  Welcome to the Game.. you woke up, now you can really begin to play!
  You are saying, why play if it is only a game?
   Because IT IS THE ONLY GAME IN TOWN. There is no other, anywhere in
Nothing.

   A better question, What is the Purpose of the game?
   The purpose is for Goddess to know and Love Herself.
  Cosmic masturbation in front of a mirror.. a succor for divine loneliness.
  There is a song that goes "One is the loneliest number than can ever be.."

  In the beginning there was only One, and that one was infinite, All that
Is.. and because One can only see oneself thru the mirror of Other, The One
had no way to know and love Itself, being infinite, and therefore
indivisible. This is eternal and has not changed. We all carry this
loneliness inside of us. All that we see is a reflection of ourselves.

  Infinity divided by two = infinity. Infinity divided by infinity =infinity.
  We are each, "an infinitesimal percentage of infinity.", (to quote the
blue pearl of wisdom that awakened in somebody's head while I was playing
with them..)

   Being unlimited tho, and infinitely creative, the One made a mirror
illusion of separateness for an infinite part of itself, and when that
illusory part looked back on the whole, When One saw itself, it fell in
love with itself in a cosmic orgasm that snapped back into a conception of
One unity of endless holographic reflections that manifested the universe..
out of love.. and consciousness.

  Ever put two mirrors opposite each other? They reflect each other back
into infinity at the speed of Light. You cannot fully see it tho, because
your head is in the way looking. Drill a tiny hole in the back of one
mirror to peek thru, and you will see your own eye reflecting back the hole
you made infinitely.. in the act of trying to perceive infinity, we only
change our perceptions of it.. we can never see it all, until our head
becomes completely transparent.. then we cannot perceive "ourselves" in the
mirror at all.. the head that was only an illusion of separateness is gone,
there is only the infinite.
   We are back where we started and remember why we left in the first place..

   The Infinite wants to know and love Itself thru the illusion of
separateness that is you.
  That is why you are here playing this game. It invented fear: the
illusion of the absence of the Love which is all that is, just so the game
can be played. Love cannot be felt unless there is the illusion of fear for
comparison. Tao dualities.. from which spring all of Maya.. everything.
  From the illusion of separateness and fear we get the illusion of free
will.. we think we are independent things that can choose between love and
fear.. but there is really only love. Our choices don't matter, except to
us.. because we get back what we send out, in the eternal reflections of
the Cosmic hologram.
  When we sincerely abandon belief in fear and separateness and
persistently try to see the Omnipresent Goddess love essence in
everything.. then eventually we do. Poof, yer enlightened. Fake it till ya
make it. They we realize there is no difference between one state and the
other, except in perceptions of size... they are both loneliness seeking
love..

  The reason for the game is that love can only be expressed thru illusions
of separateness. Love requires an object. Self and other to share love. It
is not real, but it is the Game Goddess created to know Herself, and it is
the only game. Expressing love with the illusions of other that surround
you. That's it. The whole purpose.
  It is as simple as the first game we ever play as babies: Peek-a-boo I
love you.. Love is hidden, love is revealed again, and we giggle with
delight each and every time.
  
  Here's the Boddhisattva path in a nutshell.. bearing in mind that time
and space is an illusion and everything is already perfect and manifest
somewhere, so there can be NO EVOLUTION.
  You looked around you and saw yourself and others suffering, and so in
compassion you wanted to help. Me too..
  So you worked hard on improving yourself seeking to be godlike so that
you could be of some help to everyone. You succeeded in improving yourself
to the point where you could absorb the fear of others and transmute it so
they felt less of it.
  You did that for a long time.. but when you got really good at it you
took another look at what you were transmuting and realized the
transmutation was also illusion.. it was all love, shaping to different
forms in service to your desired experiences of reality, all along.
  What God wants, God gets. Goddess provides.

  Your whole Idea of what was "needed" and the work you did seems for
Nothing..
  you ran from the shadows of fear till you got too tired and had to stop
and sit down on your shadow. Then you realized it was only your own
harmless shadow all along, a natural symptom of being a physical thing
which is not completely transparent to Light.. or a source of light,
itself.. and of course it seemed to chase you coz it is a shadow and it
cannot do anything else...

  Now you are so annoyed at yourself you cannot think of another reason to
get up again. Sit on your butt in the mud and eat worms. Makes no
difference. Goddess has everything handled all along, She needs you for
nothing, so why live? Enjoy the pity parties, they can be fun in their own
way.. or else we'd not have Country and western music.
  I think without fear, we eventually lose the will to live. Unless we find
another reason. If you need a reason. A flower doesn't. Just Be.
  
  Except.. there is one eternal reason: Goddess needs an object to love.
That is why she made you, in Her image of her own indivisible Self. In her
image, you need objects to love, too..

  Around you are the images of your own indivisible self, and as you
realize you are Goddess likely you will find that you need an object to
love to stay embodied and they are also Gods whether they know it or not on
the physical.. and they want love too and giving them love and feeling it
back in whatever of the many infinite forms that it takes is the only game
in town..

  Storytelling? .. a paraphrase of a story by Richard Bach.
  A humble tradesman man prayed to end the suffering of the world, and so
Goddess granted the vision to see beyond the illusion of suffering well
enough to heal any that asked, and feed multitudes. The man gratefully went
about preaching to large crowds telling them of love and proving his words
by miracles.
  He got a wee bit frustrated with this, because the crowds seemed to
always misunderstand him, like they were not really listening, and instead
went to him looking for miracles like he was some kind of sideshow
entertainment, and instead of learning to do miracles for themselves,
seemed to expect him to live their lives for them so they wouldn't have to.
  So he got frustrated and complained to God, offering to do anything to
help the multitudes, and God said "I COMMAND YOU TO BE HAPPY ON THIS EARTH,
SO LONG AS YOU SHALL LIVE". Because the only thing that needed fixing in
all of perfection's creation was this guy's idea that he had to be some
kind of hero.. so he went back to his trade and had a happy, simple life.
That is the beginning of the story.. in the story he does take on one last
disciple, very informally..

  There is another similar story that has been going around for a while,
about another guy who thought the world needed saving.. and came to a
similar place of frustration.
  When God said to this guy in turn that all of his work was for Nothing
coz nothing really mattered and everything was already perfect anyways..
this guy was really upset and depressed to the point of being suicidal.
  So he insisted on being a hero anyways by attempting to demonstrate that
horrible suffering and death don't matter by setting an example of choosing
it willingly his own self. He accomplished this simply by insisting on
being right, and refusing to explain himself, to the wrong people.
  Or rather, to the right people coz they were empowered to provide him
with what he sought.

  This message was also grievously misunderstood by his followers, who then
spent centuries trying to follow his example with equally good intentions,
by inflicting horrible suffering and death on those whom they tried to
convert, who were resistant to this message that suffering could be fun.
   In both stories tho, the guy dies horribly because he wants to prove a
point to someone else.
   Life isn't about lessons, tho.. coz there is no evolution in eternal
perfection. It's about experiences. Life is it's own reason.

  A weird form of meditation on duality.
  I ponder that Hitler's horrors created the UN, and Gandhi's efforts at
peace produced an independent India that is now testing underground nuclear
warheads. Mao's efforts at a unified China produced the Tiannamen square
massacre, and Marx' visions of peace produced the horrors of Stalin.
 
  They say "the road to hell is paved with good intentions.." It seems
whenever we are working from an idea of "what someone else needs", we are
applying a belief in imperfection that manifests ripples of creative
shadows. The scales of judgment are also symbol of balance. They may swing
to either side, but they will always swing back.
 How to avoid this: stop thinking of what someone else needs and follow
your bliss.
  For myself, I find there is a particular flavor of bliss that comes from
awakening bliss in the illusions of "other" that are around me, if they ask
me to.. with voice or body or mind or spirit. It is the most fun and joy I
have found, and so I do it at every opportunity.
  Boddhisattva is a game of Peek-a-boo you play as Goddess with everyone
else who thinks they are not.
  Now you see Goddess in me, now you don't coz I have disguised Her behind
a veil of things that you think are not of Her. Ha ha ha!! She is still
there, but you cannot see..
  So when I reveal as Her again you will giggle.. I do it coz I love you
and I like to see you laugh. Since no-one expects to see Goddess say
"peek-a-boo" when faced with a notorious arrogant bitch sadist hedonist
Dominatrix in black leather, it is a marvellous game. Wheeee!!!!
   Stay and play peek-a-boo with us, it's fun..
  Don't worry what to call yourself, I AM nameless, too.. What folks think
is my name is a code for a vibration of energy that's playing Peek-a-boo..
    Blessings, Mystress.
   
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 00:35:20 -0500
From: "Brent Blalock" <blal0004ATnospammaroon.tc.umn.edu>
To: "Kundalini - L" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Strange Emotion For No Reason
Message-ID: <001501bd8543$d37057a0$933c5ea0ATnospammaroon.tc.umn.edu.tc.umn.eduumn.edu>
Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset="iso-8859-1"

A strange thing happened at school today.

I go to the U of M.

While I was walking to class today, I heard music playing. It sounded kind
of Indian and easy to trance out to. I thought to myself, "I like that
music. This should be good..." Then I saw Hare Krishnas playing the music!
They gave me a paper with quotes from famous people saying good things about
the Baghvad Gita (sp?). I had to go to class, so I left them. I wanted to
go back because I liked the music, and I thought that I could discuss
religious stuff with them.

After my classes, I was relieved to find that they were still there, still
playing their music. I approached them again. They talked to me a bit
about the Baghvad Gita, offered me a bar of some kind with oatmeal and
raisins and something sweet like honey (tasty), and tried to sell me their
books. I wasn't able to discuss religion or life much, because most of the
conversation seemed to go back to selling the books. It sounded like the
guy I was talking to had been trained how to sell books to people. I didn't
buy anything from him.

The strangest thing happened while I was talking to him. I was overwhelmed
with some powerful emotion. It was a positive emotion, but I don't know
which one it was. It was a nice day. I was listening to their music and
liking it. I thought to myself once or twice, "I'd like to sit here for
about an hour or two and listen to their music and enjoy the weather." I
really doubt that I was overwhelmed by their love for me, because all they
did was try to sell me their books. But several times during the
conversation, I had to fight back tears. I didn't even know if I could stop
myself from breaking out in tears.

I held out, though. When I was done talking to them, I went to a nearby
bathroom and cried and cried.

In a dream once, I entered an apartment. In one room there was an Indian
guru-type. I sat down on the bed he was sitting on. When I did, I felt a
strong emotion. I don't know which one it was either. It felt good. It
sort of made want to cry. He told me, "It's time for you to go home." I
felt like he was referring to more of a spiritual "return home" than a
physical one.

I'm not sure, but I think what I felt with the Hare Krishnas was the same as
the feeling in my dream. I don't understand why I felt that way and I don't
understand why it was them that made me feel like that. I mean... they
were just trying to sell me stuff.

I suspect/hope that there are people on the list who have had some
experience with feelings and experiences like this one. Who can provide
some kind of insight into the situation?
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 02:21:40 -0500
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: "Brent Blalock" <blal0004ATnospammaroon.tc.umn.edu>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Strange Emotion For No Reason
Message-Id: <l03010d05b18ad45d1536ATnospam[207.71.51.85]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi Brent!

>snip<
>While I was walking to class today, I heard music playing. It sounded kind
>of Indian and easy to trance out to. I thought to myself, "I like that
>music. This should be good..." Then I saw Hare Krishnas playing the music!
>snip<
>After my classes, I was relieved to find that they were still there, still
>playing their music. I approached them again. They talked to me a bit
>about the Baghvad Gita, offered me a bar of some kind with oatmeal and
>raisins and something sweet like honey (tasty), and tried to sell me their
>books.
>snip<
>The strangest thing happened while I was talking to him. I was overwhelmed
>with some powerful emotion. It was a positive emotion, but I don't know
>which one it was. It was a nice day. I was listening to their music and
>liking it. I thought to myself once or twice, "I'd like to sit here for
>about an hour or two and listen to their music and enjoy the weather." I
>really doubt that I was overwhelmed by their love for me, because all they
>did was try to sell me their books. But several times during the
>conversation, I had to fight back tears. I didn't even know if I could stop
>myself from breaking out in tears.
>
>I held out, though. When I was done talking to them, I went to a nearby
>bathroom and cried and cried.
>
>In a dream once, I entered an apartment. In one room there was an Indian
>guru-type. I sat down on the bed he was sitting on. When I did, I felt a
>strong emotion. I don't know which one it was either. It felt good. It
>sort of made want to cry. He told me, "It's time for you to go home." I
>felt like he was referring to more of a spiritual "return home" than a
>physical one.
>
>I'm not sure, but I think what I felt with the Hare Krishnas was the same as
>the feeling in my dream. I don't understand why I felt that way and I don't
>understand why it was them that made me feel like that. I mean... they
>were just trying to sell me stuff.

1. I don't suppose they would put anything in their oatmeal bars? :)))

2. Did you ever have a feeling you might have lived in India or that
general area in another life? Maybe you knew the Indian of the dream in
that life.

3. Sounds like it was the music of the Hare Krishnas that especially
stirred you. But there would have been Eastern clothing as well. Maybe
these things brought back the memory of the dream and maybe almost the
memory of that other life.

4. Could the Indian be your spiritual guide now? "He told me, 'It's time
for you to go home.' I felt like he was referring to more of a spiritual
'return home.'"

When I've been near to remembering another life, I've had very strong
emotions of various kinds - not explained until the memory comes.

Love,
Ann
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 02:32:52 -0500 (CDT)
From: ziggyATnospamcomic.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: "Turn Your TV Into A Cash Cow!"
Message-Id: <199805220732.CAA02183ATnospamb.mx.execpc.com>

=========================

 RE: "TV-Network Pays YOU!"

    Hello!

    There will be two kinds of people in the TELEVISION
    revolution of the 21st Century . . .

      1. The "TV-watchers" who still *PAY*
  to watch TV!

      2. The "TV-doers" who *CASH IN* by helping
  OTHER PEOPLE pay to watch TV!

    BREAKING NEWS!

    Here is IMPORTANT FREE INFORMATION for both "TV-doers" and
    "TV-watchers" . . .

    If you're a "TV-doer," timing is more important than talent,
    and the timing is perfect right now to get connected and
    begin to MAKE EXTRA MONEY while the people you know PAY to
    turn on their TELEVISION sets every night!

     ===> NEW TELEVISION NETWORK
 PAYS YOU!

   "Learn the MONEY making SECRETS of TELEVISION!"

 Beam Yourself Up Now!
   *** The Internet's MOST VALUABLE Address ***

http://www.gostarship.com/starmaker
    <A HREF="http://www.gostarship.com/starmaker">AOL Click Here</A>

     ===> ***NOTE: If you qualify, you'll get a Website
     just like the one above . . . so be
     sure to look it over, carefully!

    CA$H IN ON TV!

    Super-simple, #1 RATED HOME BUSINESS with low start-up
    costs! You can benefit BIG as the floodgates open wide
    on this 800-pound Gorilla . . . featuring the Raging Bull
    of all Pay Plans!

     TOO GOOD TO PASS UP!

    Earn IMMEDIATE MONEY and LONG-TERM MONEY (get paid forever)!
    FIVE different ways! From THREE powerful sources (TV,
    Internet & Catalog)! On more than 600 RED-HOT PRODUCTS &
    SERVICES including the fastest selling electronics product
    EVER! Be a sure-fire winner, learn all about it right now
    at . . .
    
http://www.gostarship.com/starmaker
    <A HREF="http://www.gostarship.com/starmaker">AOL Click Here</A>

     *** SPECIAL OFFER FOR TV WATCHERS! ***
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    If you're a Television "watcher" in the USA, you may be
    eligible to get a Satellite TV-Dish from me with . . .

  NO EQUIPMENT TO BUY!

    For a limited time only you may qualify for a TV-Dish with:

 . . . No Equipment To BUY!

 . . . FREE Maintenance!

 . . . FREE Monthly Programming Guide!

 . . . FREE Thirty-Day TV-Entertainment Package!

 . . . PROFESSIONAL Installation only $99!

     
    Check it out, now! http://www.gostarship.com/starmaker
    <A HREF="http://www.gostarship.com/starmaker">AOL Click Here</A>

   This Offer Good
  In
  USA & Canada ONLY!

    =====================
"I truly value my relationship with you! If you wish to
opt out of any further e-mail advertisements from me,
please click *reply* and type "remove" in the subject."
    =====================


    -end-
Date: Thu, 21 May 1998 23:50:48 +0000
From: valerie cooper <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
To: ziggyATnospamcomic.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: "Turn Your TV Into A Cash Cow!"
Message-ID: <3564BDD5.E8BATnospamptialaska.net>

I - for one - resent the beJesus outta this schmaltzy spam crap! I got
this in 2 newslists & then to my personal e-mail, all in the last hour.
What ding danged program lets you spam in this section of the internet?
how do you do that?
MOST of all - cease & desist - you tasteless invader!!!
Make him stop!!!
wah!
:-(
vc
--
It's never too late to have a happy childhood!
Valerie Cooper
http://geocities.com/SoHo/7982/
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 00:33:35 +0000
From: vacuous valerie <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Sattelite Glitch
Message-ID: <3564C7D7.389CATnospamptialaska.net>

Hey Kids!
   WORLD CAFE is now on up here in the far reaches, SO - this must mean
that that crazy space sattelite is fixxed! Hooray-Hoorah! We haven't
heard any sattelite transmissions in two days!
   Everything *normal* again down/over there?
:-)
vps (today here - on top of "normal" chaos - there was a
blackout/brownout at a most inopportune time - around noon Alaska
Standard Time. My equipment remained unaffected, but people went dark
here. I thought maybe the world had blown up for about 3 minutes. Any
similar pattern in power surges?)
--
It's never too late to have a happy childhood!
Valerie Cooper
http://geocities.com/SoHo/7982/
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 13:32:19 +0100
From: "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo.infase.es>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: RE: "Turn Your TV Into A Cash Cow!"
Message-ID: <000001bd857d$a9d114e0$59f14dc3ATnospamjb>
Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset="iso-8859-1"

Spamming could be a problem. Mystress wrote repeatedly that she can't
unsubscribe and the spammer's E-mail address is normal, so it's a weak point
in the system. Do not Cc the spammer! This will automatically add your
E-mail address to his list. The best thing would be to file a complaint.
There are also cases, where spammers wre removed by sending E-mail bombs,
clogging up their system. Using a complicated background-picture and very
large fonts, one message can easily be 1 Mb. As a rule, isp's don't like
this so they unsubscribe the spammer...

Jan
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 13:32:22 +0100
From: "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo.infase.es>
To: "Ann Morrison Fisher" <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: RE: Aura colors
Message-ID: <000101bd857d$ab6b8b00$59f14dc3ATnospamjb>
Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset="iso-8859-1"

Ann wrote:
[]
> All I can tell you is that the highway I've been on goes all the way to
> sahasrara and right out the top. At visuddha I saw electric blue; at ajna
> I saw violet. Toward the end of that shift I was seeing violet with blue
> patches around the edges and I worked on transmuting them to violet. (My
> own symbolic method, perhaps, but it worked.) After that came atmic with
> bipolar black/white.
>
> As I said before, I'm not at all sure to what extent color perception is
> subjective. I expected to see blue, violet, black/white, etc., and I did,
> as do other students of the same teacher.

It is likely that even the perception of the chakras themselves is
subjective. Not all systems acknowledge the same amount of chakras and the
only reason for this is perception. At the time when I should have seen
them, I wasn't aware of the fact that chakras could be visible and I didn't
see them. Instead, I saw pictures, like the one with twelve blue snakes with
a golden head. With the proper concentration on breathing and the flow in
the nadis, the light-intensity of the golden heads could be increased. This
practice had to be continued until the golden heads intensified to a point
where they all merged. It meant the start of a new stage, presenting another
picture or sometimes none. It seems to me that K. is quite able to provide
one with the necessary tools. Recognizing them is something else.

Jan
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 13:32:27 +0100
From: "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo.infase.es>
To: <amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: RE: Subconscious pressure
Message-ID: <000201bd857d$ae01c640$59f14dc3ATnospamjb>
Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset="iso-8859-1"

amckeon wrote:
> I have seen a kind response to an unkind approach work both ways.
> Sometimes
> it defuses a situation and sometimes it escalates it, as Jan says above.
>
> There is another choice, that of a neutral response. I remember
> when I used
> to work in a bookstore that sold, among other things, "erotic" magazines.
> [examples]

You are right. I was only referring to street-violence, back in the early
70's in Western-Europe, when things weren't that bad. When people I knew
were unkind without any reason, I defused the situation by apologizing for
something I unknowingly could have done. Then the person would always
recognize his unkindness, apologized and told the reason for it - usually
problems with relatives. We talked about it and it always brought relief.
Some even commented, that they thought to be in control and were amazed that
I could detect their unbalance (I never told I was becoming an empath). A
few years ago I was approached by a big drunk who had only one goal:
processing me into minced meat. Any action (talking included) would have
triggered him into action. So I did nothing - not moving one muscle of my
face. The man became more and more furious, banging a wall, trying to induce
fear. Then, he started using abusive language like filthy Tibetan. This made
me almost laugh but I could suppress it. By now, the man was out of means to
provoke and went away, demolishing objects on his way. One doesn't have to
be empathic to defuse situations like the above - a cool mind and a warm
heart, plus the enhanced creativity and imagination that K. brings should
do.

Jan
Date: Fri, 22 May 1998 09:20:45 EDT
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com, peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in
Cc: trexisATnospamjuno.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Re: solong
Message-ID: <7bfc05da.35657bafATnospamaol.com>

In a message dated 5/21/1998, 10:56:12 PM, serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com writes:
<< Enjoy the pity parties, they can be fun in their own
way.. or else we'd not have Country and western music. >>

Harsha: Oh God! That is so totally funny! I am reminded of Hank Williams
(seniors) classic country song. I have not heard it in a long long time. Have
you heard it? It has a sort of a nasal twang.

Your cheating heart
will make you weep
you try and try
and try to sleep
But sleep won't come
the whole night through
Your cheating heart
 will tell on you.

blank
DISCLAIMER!

Home | Archive Index | Search the archives | Subscribe
blank
K.  List FAQ | Kundalini FAQs | Signs and  Symptoms | Awakening Experiences | K. list Polls | Member Essays | Meditations | List Topics | Art Gallery | Cybrary | Sitemap | Email the moderators.
line
  • Feel free to submit any questions you might have about what you read here to the Kundalini mailing list moderators, and/or the author (if given). Specify if you would like your message forwarded to the list. Please subscribe to the K-list so you can read the responses.
  • All email addresses on this site have been spam proofed by the addition of ATnospam in place of the at symbol symbol.
  • All posts publicly archived with the permission of the people involved. Reproduction for anything other than personal use is prohibited by international copyright law. ©
  • This precious archive of experiential wisdom is made available thanks to sponsorship from Fire-Serpent.org.
  • URL: http://www.kundalini-gateway.org/klist/k1998/k98d00398.html