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kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #265


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 265

Today's Topics:
  Re: KL : EGO [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
  Re: KL : EGO [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
  Re: The Weeping Guru-Lets Party! [ Mark Anthony Collins <themacmanATnospammac ]
  Re: KL : EGO [ "Ed" <lobATnospamlineone.net> ]
  Re: KL : EGO [ "Ed" <lobATnospamlineone.net> ]
  Welcome Sandeep [ "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
  Re: KL : EGO [ Dan Margolis <margolisATnospamtransbay.net ]
  Re: The Weeping Guru-Lets Party! [ Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> ]
  Re: Welcome Sandeep [ Jerry Katz <umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca> ]
  RE: KL : EGO [ "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo. ]
  RE: KL : EGO [ "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo. ]
  RE: On Dangers of Pranayama [ Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley ]
  AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Tmaloney <tfm0107ATnospamaol.com> ]
  RE: HTML posts [ b bah <happyhunaATnospamyahoo.com> ]
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 12:42:51 -0500
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: KL : EGO
Message-ID: <3526711B.70A3D53ATnospammail.snet.net>

Dan Margolis wrote:

> And of course the ultimate question:
> Does a Dog have Buddha Nature?

Dog

In the middle of a desert
In the middle of the day
In the middle of a road
A dehydrated dog collapses.

He was going West.
On 82.
Looking for some food and shelter
And someone to pet him.
He'll die.

That dog gotta soul?
Maybe not some'd say.
But who knows?
Really.

But as long as it's not his concern,
I guesse it don't matter,
If that dog gotta a soul...
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 14:47:43 EST
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: margolisATnospamtransbay.net, heidiATnospamadan.kingston.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: KL : EGO
Message-ID: <4dbc2418.35268e61ATnospamaol.com>

In a message dated 4/4/1998 8:05:12 AM Pacific Standard Time,
margolisATnospamtransbay.net writes:

<< How can you talk about the last 11 years if your completely in the NOW?
  >>
Harsha: Why not? Where do the last 11 years or all the whole eternity exist.
They exist in the Present. What difference does it make if one talks or says
nothing at all? You are not in the Now. You Are the Now! Look! See! Be!
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 14:17:11 -0800
From: Mark Anthony Collins <themacmanATnospammacsrule.com>
To: kundalini-LATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The Weeping Guru-Lets Party!
Message-ID: <3526B167.D9CATnospammacsrule.com>

HA! Yes, but my research further reveals an ancient Sanskrit nondual
verse whose literal translation is: "There is only one day with nothing
happening and nobody doing anything except for the young chick with huge
gazoombas going down on the President."
--------------
Exactly which Sanscrit word translates into "gazoombas"?!?


(pardon my German)

Monica: Was mochste mir machen, Herr President?

Clinton: Gehen Sie auf meinen Arbeitzimmer und fich mich!
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 08:00:29 -0800
From: "Ed" <lobATnospamlineone.net>
To: <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>, "Kundalini" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: KL : EGO
Message-Id: <199804042023.VAA30866ATnospamboober.lineone.net>

> Ed wrote:
>
> > Here is a simple
> > test: throw a stick and shout "fetch". If the Zen Master does not bring
the
> > stick to you he is a dog.
>
> More likely he is a cat.

 It had not occurred to me that the stick might be a cat. Of course I am
aware that Moses turned his stick (staff) into a serpent. Whether Moses was
a Zen Master is not recorded in the Bible as it had not been invented
(Moses had been invented - I was referring to the stick but probably meant
Zen). Maybe it's in Revelations (which can mean just about anything).
 The important thing to bear in mind here is, if you do not discipline your
mind, it becomes difficult to differentiate between cats and dogs, bears
and lobsters and sense and incense.

Lobster
More likely he is a cat
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 1997 07:45:15 -0800
From: "Ed" <lobATnospamlineone.net>
To: "Dan Margolis" <margolisATnospamtransbay.net>,
 "Kundalini Mailing List" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: KL : EGO
Message-Id: <199804042023.VAA06321ATnospamboober.lineone.net>

> > You have obviously been hanging out with the wrong dogs.
> > Dogs are not Zen masters or humble - they are just dogs. Here is a
simple
> > test: throw a stick and shout "fetch". If the Zen Master does not bring
the
> > stick to you he is a dog. If the dog (assuming normality) does not he
is a
> > Zen Dog (this is called Dogchen in Tibet).
> > I also have other tests for Gurus, Sufis and other lesser canines.
>
> But what if the dog doesn't speak English? What's 'fetch' in the language
of
> dogs or Zen Dogs?
>
> And of course the ultimate question:
> Does a Dog have Buddha Nature?

These are fundamentantel questions. I may have told previosly of my heroic
attempts to teach dogs arabic. The main problem was getting them to wear
the headphones so that they could listen to the linguaphone cassette. I am
still convinced that with sufficient effort the dogs would have done quite
well as arabic is a phonetic language and quite easy to learn.
Does a Dog have Buddha Nature?
The classic answer is "MU" which is a Japenese word conveying positive
negation. As well as questions concerning the dog nature of Buddhas we must
also try and understand whether Buddhas have Buddha Nature.
If I am ever succesful in my attempts to abduct an alien I may be able to
question her on these matters. My inclination is to believe that a Buddha
has by Nature very little Nature. This does not stop them being natural. In
fact it is their lack of the dog like qualities (faith full, bone
fascination, tail wagging etc) which enables us to treat Dogs with the
respect reserved for Buddhas and Buddhas with unreserved respect.

 Lobster
 
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 12:27:48 PST
From: "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, sandeepcATnospambom3.vsnl.net.in
Subject: Welcome Sandeep
Message-ID: <19980404202748.20522.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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>Hi everybody,
>
>A very good friend of mine from another List invited to come over here
=
>>
>In zikr
>
>
>Sandeep
>
Dear Sandeep,
     Please pass along my and our thanks to your "friend" who sent you
here to us. Enjoy your posts so much!!! Pray tell the meaning of zikr,
ok??
Glo Lee

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Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 12:52:47 -0800
From: Dan Margolis <margolisATnospamtransbay.net>
To: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>,
 Kundalini Mailing List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: KL : EGO
Message-ID: <35269D9E.5B875212ATnospamtransbay.net>

Harsha1MTM wrote:

> In a message dated 4/4/1998 8:05:12 AM Pacific Standard Time,
> margolisATnospamtransbay.net writes:
>
> << How can you talk about the last 11 years if your completely in the NOW?
> >>
> Harsha: Why not? Where do the last 11 years or all the whole eternity exist.
> They exist in the Present. What difference does it make if one talks or says
> nothing at all? You are not in the Now. You Are the Now! Look! See! Be!

Now, now... 11 years is a lot to hold in one moment...What's done is done... Of
course this is just a difference in perspective... Now or not, nothing said or
not..

___

A advanced abbot had heard about Hoti, the laughing Buddha and went to test his
knowledge...

He found the laughing Buddha wandering the streets of a small town carrying his
belongings in a bag on his shoulders. He asked the laughing Buddha, How does
one attain enlightenment?

    The laughing Buddha laughed and took the bag off of his shoulders and set it
down.

    The abbot said "Oh very good. And how does one live in this world as an
enlightened being.

    The laughing Buddha picked up his bag, put it on his shoulders, and walked
away laughing...

__
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 14:59:50 EST
From: Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com>
To: umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca, samyanaATnospamhotmail.com
Cc: kundalini-LATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The Weeping Guru-Lets Party!
Message-ID: <b25f5c66.35269137ATnospamaol.com>

In a message dated 4/3/1998 9:10:12 PM Pacific Standard Time,
umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca writes:

<< There is only one day with nothing happening and nobody doing
 > >anything."
 >
 > >Gloria: DEar Jerry,
 > Sounds like you may have made a random visit to drop in our Congress
 > ...just any old day will do for that.
 
 HA! Yes, but my research further reveals an ancient Sanskrit nondual
 verse whose literal translation is: "There is only one day with nothing
 happening and nobody doing anything except for the young chick with huge
 gazoombas going down on the President."
 
  >>
Harsha: Jerry! WHO is going down on WHO! Going down WHERE! WHERE Jerry! WHERE!
And HOW! O.K. Bring out the potato salad. I have worked up an appetite.
Date: Sat, 04 Apr 1998 17:34:30 -0800
From: Jerry Katz <umbadaATnospamns.sympatico.ca>
To: themacmanATnospammacsrule.com, Gloria Lee <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Welcome Sandeep
Message-ID: <3526DFA6.59FAATnospamns.sympatico.ca>

Sandeep wrote:
>
> >Hi everybody,
> >
> >A very good friend of mine from another List invited to come over here
> >>
> >In zikr
> >
> >
> >Sandeep

Glo Lee wrote:

> Dear Sandeep,
> Please pass along my and our thanks to your "friend" who sent you
> here to us. Enjoy your posts so much!!! Pray tell the meaning of zikr,
> ok??


In a separate post Mark Anthony Collins wrote:

> Exactly which Sanscrit word translates into "gazoombas"?!?

 
Jerry writes:

Aw, you guys are making my work too easy ...
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 22:44:14 +0100
From: "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo.infase.es>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: RE: KL : EGO
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed [mailto:lobATnospamlineone.net]
> Sent: Friday, April 04, 1997 6:26 AM
> To: Harsha1MTM; janbarenATnospaminfase.es
> Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
> Subject: Re: KL : EGO
>
>
> Jan:
> << The stray dogs I meet and feed when hiking do the very same. They are
> hungry and only eat. When they are tired they only sleep. They are ever
> living in the "now" but they don´t claim to be Zen masters. And they
> don´t
> hit me with a stick :-)
> >>
>
> Harsha: Yes Jan. The dogs do not claim to be Zen masters. That is because
> they
> are humble. You have overlooked that very important quality. And yes they
> do
> not hit you with a stick. That is because they find it difficult
> to pick up
> sticks (no thumbs you see).
>
> Hah!
> You have obviously been hanging out with the wrong dogs.
> Dogs are not Zen masters or humble - they are just dogs. Here is a simple
> test: throw a stick and shout "fetch". If the Zen Master does not
> bring the
> stick to you he is a dog. If the dog (assuming normality) does not he is a
> Zen Dog (this is called Dogchen in Tibet).
> I also have other tests for Gurus, Sufis and other lesser canines.
>
>
> All thumbs and claws
> Lobster
>
But here (Canary Islands) the vast majority of (Canarian) dogs wont fetch a
stick. Only unconverted foreign dogs do. Some of these Zen dogs are even Chi
Gong masters: they crack almonds with their teeth. These almonds have such a
strong shell, that no nutcracker survives more than a few of them. Because
here are so many UFO sightings that the military wants to build a rocket
base on one of the islands, there are some rumors that aliens from the Dog
Star have landed here, disguised as Zen dogs. So at last, I know why some
dogs only eat dog food when forced to... They are vegans from the Dog Star.
The original name of the Canary Islands: Dogs Islands. All canaries here are
imported.

Jan
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 22:44:21 +0100
From: "Jan Barendrecht" <janbarenATnospamcorreo.infase.es>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: RE: KL : EGO
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Imtgxxx [mailto:ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com]
> Sent: Saturday, April 04, 1998 8:45 AM
> To: janbarenATnospaminfase.es; sandeepcATnospambom3.vsnl.net.in
> Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
> Subject: RE: KL : EGO
>
>
> janbarenATnospaminfase.es writes:
> ...Accepting an agitated, confused mind - it is accepting
> restlessness.
> Accepting restlessness brings peace?
>
> tg: Accepting restlessness (confusion/frustration, etc.) to me would mean
> accepting that I do not know what anything, including what this
> restlessness,
> means. Making it neutral, with no judgements. (ie. this
> restlessness must
> mean I gotta go rob the bank so I can make my rent payment!).
>
Jan: I agree that a neutral mind is necessary - but Sandeep wrote:
   >>One has not to fall into the whirl of calming the mind
   >>That in itself is the restlessness
   >>The mind is what it is, accept it as such
   >>This acceptance brings peace.
and he denies that mind must be controlled before it can be accepted.
Declaring the control of mind to be useless contradicts yoga:
Patanjali I.2: "Yoga is controlling the activities of mind" and my mental
excursion with a bankrobber was only meant to show the absurdity of:
"accepting the mind as it is". For a long time, Ramana Maharishi didn't
speak to anyone, not even to his mother. This needs a completely controlled
mind. Atma Vichara is an advanced path: a controlled mind is a prerequisite.

> Being restless and thinking you must do something to alleviate it
> is coming
> from a place of lack. Accepting it, and knowing you need do
> nothing as all
> your needs are already met, is coming from a place of wholeness.
>
> I can give you an example.... I was living alone in the mountains
> of Georgia a
> couple of years ago, and one day found myself soooo bored. This
> was strange,
> as I rarely got bored! I thought I had to *do* something, which
> made me very
> restless. So I stepped back and accepted this boredom and said
> to myself, ''I
> do not know what anything, including what this boredom means.'' At that
> point, I could be at peace with it knowing that the answer may
> (or may not)
> come. I realized that it was outta my hands.... so I just went
> with the flow
> of boredom (sigh) knowing I didn't have to *do* anything to keep
> from being
> bored - this in itself, brought me peace. And with this peace, within a
> couple of hours, a good friend called from S.Carolina asking if
> she could come
> for a visit. I got so excited and looked forward to her visit
> and made myself
> busy preparing. My boredom & restlessness left. My needs were met and I
> didn't have to do a dang thing, except for accepting the boredom.

Boredom means being conscious of unfulfilled expectations, without knowing
the content (what the expectatins are about). Concentration / meditation
means effort. Sooner or later the effort has to end and then one is
susceptible to the tendencies of the mind. A well controlled mind will not
revolt; without control anything can happen. You can only know there is
nothing to do by using your mind; for you, knowing meant control.
>
> Jan: The judge: "Why did you commit this crime?" The suspect: "I
> accepted my
> mind as it is and it brought me peace. Hadn´t it been for the
> detective ,
> it would even have brought me a million bucks ".
>
> tg: Good example. But unrelated to the point being made. Why
> would he even
> ask for or even think about acceptance to the restlessness if he
> was already
> in peace about his crime? If the suspect was restless and accepted it as
> good and something he wanted, then he is accepting the
> restlessness to keep,
> and of course could commit the crime with peace of mind! He came from a
> place of lack, that he needed to do something to fulfill this
> restlessness.

The white-collar bankrobber didn't have a restless mind of course. He had
planned the job long ago and his mind was under complete control - if you
apply full concentration, the mind is always under control. Had the man
practiced yoga according to Patanjali, the very thought of robbing the bank
wouldn't have entered his controlled mind.
>
> Sandeep: >Rejection is restlessness, acceptance is peace- and he who
> reaches
> total>acceptance "attains"
>
> Jan: The former suspect, now a convicted inmate, still
> peacefully accepts
> his
> mind, that is becoming strongly influenced by the wisdom of his
> fellow
> inmates. Upon reaching total acceptance, he attains as a master
> of white
> collar outlaws.
>
> tg: And if this is what brings him peace of mind, then so be it.
> Most likely
> tho, he is still coming from seeing himself in lack if he thinks
> he needs to
> do anything to attain peace of mind. And the drama continues.

Without control of the activities of mind (yoga), yes, the drama continues.
>
> Sandeep: >Acceptance cannot come from an act of will.
> >"I accept" conceals non-acceptance
> >because will is always of the ego.
> >Ego cannot live unless fed by rejection.
> >Acceptance can never be brought about by action,
> >only understanding life can bring it about.
>
> Jan: When did the ego arise then?
>
> tg: At the point of separation, ie. fear, conflict, anger, guilt,
> restlessness, confusion, etc. etc. etc.

Jan: The ego is not something with a switch: on with fear etc., off when "at
peace". It contradicts the observation that jivan muktas can show traces of
anger etc. Yet a jivan mukta is without even a trace of ego. Ramana
Maharishi would have asked: "can you show me the ego if you don't think?"
Without mind there is no ego. Control of the activities of mind (yoga) means
control of ego also.
>
> Jan: Clearly, neither an unborn nor a newly born baby ever was
> caught in the
> act of "feeding their ego by rejecting it".
>
> tg: If the baby is unhappy, ie. bored, wet, tired, or sick, it
> cries. The
> baby is in a place of acceptance of what is. God/the
> Universe/Whoever gives
> the babies caretakers - moms mainly - to fill their needs.

Jan :-))) A healthy baby doesn't accept. It has very strong desires, for
food, fresh diapers, the love of the parents. When the desires are
fulfilled, the baby is very happy. Because the baby is empty of the masses
of knowledge that grown-ups are carrying with them, it is completely filled
with God, but without a controlled mind, it just doesn't realize this.
Nevertheless, it shows. Here, the little ones sometimes are nicknamed
"little saints".
 If the ego arises/subsides by feelings, instead of meditation one could
take "feel happy" pills. Everyone knows that doesn't work well.
>
> Jan: Understanding life - some meditators would call the
> pondering over
> life just another activity of the restless mind.
>
> tg: and some may give it another meaning.... I guess the
> question would be
> whether this *restless mind* is keeping you from peace of mind.
> If it is, and
> you would like peace of mind, it is your own responsibility to do what is
> necessary to achieve this, and not by searching outside yourself which is
> coming from a place of lack, but recognizing that you are already
> whole and
> complete, that you need do nothing, and that all your needs are
> already met.

Jan: Understanding life needs some kind of mental action for its
accomplishment. It contradicts the preceding phrase: >Acceptance can never
be brought about by action.<
>
> Sandeep: >Look, look at life
> >What is is, it is as it is.
> >Things are such- do not ask them to be otherwise
> >because they cannot be, even if you so desire.
>
> Jan: For a dog, life is mainly the scent of everything around
> it. For an
> inhabitant of a poor country, life is getting food. For a
> scientist, life is
> the latest edition of Nature. For a skilled meditator, life is
> unchanging.
>
> tg: and so it is... I guess the question would be, am I at
> peace with the
> choices they made? If not, then I must look within so that I can
> be at peace.
> If I am at peace, the question would never come up.

Jan: The contents of one's mind decide wether or not one will look within.
The decision to look within is made with the mind. A well trained mind is
never restless and its owner is ever at peace. The very fact that someone
decides to embark on a path of meditation requires decisive action. The
action is undertaken because you are not satisfied with the present
condition (not accepting it).
>
> Sandeep: >Desire is altogether impotent
> >And can there be restlessness without desire?
>
> Jan: On the contrary, desire is very powerful. There are mental states
> where only anxiety and utter confusion are present - no desires.
> These states
> are extremely restless, sometimes to the extent that hospitalization is
> necessary.
>
> tg: These states are coming from a place of fear - extreme fear. (Been
> there-done that during my K-Rap). The desire to run away from
> the fearful
> imaginary occurrances, which I did (run). And during a fleeting moment of
> saneness, the desire for peace of mind - in which I accepted I
> was insane but
> I was willing to look at it differently and to be at peace. (it
> was given).
>
> Sandeep: >All error, all ignorance comes from identification.
>
> Jan: No, Identification and error come from ignorance, not
> the other way.
> In classical yoga,ignorance (avidya) is the principle among the
> five causes
> of affliction.
>
> tg: I'm seeing you are both right from your two seemingly opposite
> perceptions - Actually they are both pretty much the same, but different
> uses...
>
> With SanDeep's perception, my identification of seeing myself
> as a victim
> (or use any other label I choose to give myself or others) brought about
> mistakes and ignorance . Example: I saw myself as a student,
> and put my
> teacher (I labeled both) on a pedestal - that the teacher knew
> better than
> myself. Because of this, I listened to her, instead of mySelf, which was
> telling me differently. Big Mistake.... duh (!) .... by
> labeling ourselves
> or others (ID), we are setting ourselves up for error! So error &
> ignorance came from ID (and I have to add from ID AND (or?)
> judgement). Who
> really knows which is the teacher or the student?
>
> With Jan's interpretation, I have found my errors and my
> identification came
> from ignorance.... had I known better at the time , I would have chosen
> differently - and not seen myself as a victim and made all those
> mistakes....
>
> (These opinions may expire any moment due to only knowing what I
> know right
> now)
> xxxtg
>
> * Meditation is not what you think *
>
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html <~~~~ on the web now!

If ignorance is the result of identification, who is identifying with whom?
Because ignorance (avidya) means not knowing the Self, without ignorance,
caused by your identification, you must be experiencing the Self! But if you
are experiencing the Self, there is absolutely nothing to identify with...
in both meanings. So I am afraid you are experiencing avidya...

Jan
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 15:05:18 -0800
From: Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu>
To: "'anandajyoti'" <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>
Cc: "'kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: On Dangers of Pranayama
Message-ID: <01BD5FDB.15002710.keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu>

Anandajyoti - thanks for responding. Your responses go straight to the
points. A couple more ?'s and clarifications ...

> Are all pranayamas dangerous without formal instruction and guidance from
a
> teacher?

Anandajyoti> No, simpler ones are not. The main criterion is each person
has a
different constitution, hence any method (count) of pranayama which
creates any
stress in the person should not be practiced, rather one needs to find the
position of
balance for oneself and proceed in a regular , methodical manner, similar
to physical
workouts for muscle enhancements.

KK: Could you be a little more specific about what pranayamas are safe -
and why.

KK: I'm afraid this question has lost it's context. The wording is a bit
confusing: It should read:
Why is practicing pranayama under a guru safer?

> Is it because of the guidance of the guru in case unpleasant
effects
* occur?

KK: In other words, is practicing pranayama under a guru safer because the
guru is able to recognize and provide antidotes, of some sort, to
unpleasant side-effects.

Anandajyoti> If the guru is only one who has read from books and never
practiced
himself/herself , I think for such a one it would be hard to recognize the
effects in
the students if unpleasant experiences do come in the way. Another reason
could well
be such gurus don't have malpractice insurance , I believe.

KK: I think you read it as: Is the guru responsible for unpleasant
side-effects.
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Help...I am a 30+ college student taking an Asian Humanites class and am in need of information on Kundalini Yoga. I have procrastinated and have only three days to finish a research paper. Have some information on Kundalini Yoga but found there is limited info in libraries.
What make Kundalini Yoga different from other types of yoga. In layman's terms, what are the philosophies of Kundalini yoga as opposed to other yogas. Any info would be greatly appreaciated. THANKS
Date: Sat, 4 Apr 1998 15:04:53 -0800 (PST)
From: b bah <happyhunaATnospamyahoo.com>
To: Jan Barendrecht <janbarenATnospaminfase.es>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: RE: HTML posts
Message-ID: <19980404230453.22944.rocketmailATnospamsend1d.yahoomail.com>
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strip html
below is a page from the hlp file of text editor freeware. recently I
downloaded; has a strip html tool.

Also homesite freeware version 1.x from allaire(or dexter.com or
davecentral.com? other download sites) is tag editor. also drag your
links and multi doc search&replace among features, though kind of slow
to load [486-25sx]. many other editors on download sites will strip
tags.
biggest problem is that links are removed (since they are html tags).
also you want it built into email software.
somewhat RELATED:
if someone finds small notepad type editor which handles win95
longfilenames, bigger files than notepad, reasonably small (load time)
drag and drop file loading (notemaid embeds but doesn't load when drop
-kind of wierd!), easy cap change ala Word,'ChangeCase'command to fix
the frequent CapsLOCK problem, ... I would like to know.
yahoo hotmail et al ought to forget spellcheck [would "speelcheck" =
spamblock?] and take care of CapsLock!
yahoo and hotmail and netscape may give hints of configurability:
7-bit MIME, etc. i don't know the subject matter.
bye now.
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Contact the Author…

In versions 1.3 and earlier, there was a bug that concerns both the
binary and text editing. When you insert special characters above
decimal 127, all of them will be converted into Windows ANSI
characters when saving the file. This bug has been fixed, in the
later versions of NoteMaid, by giving you the choice of either saving
the file in ANSI character set (default) or ASCII (OEM) MS-Dos format.
 Notice that there are two version of NoteMaid. One is the Internet
version and one is not. The Internet version allows you to retrieve
documents off the Internet through http, ftp, and gopher protocols.
The non-Internet version is smaller in size, which is what some of you
wanted; a simple plain text editor. If you run into any trouble or
bugs, please contact me and I'll try to respond as soon as possible.
I love to hear suggestions for any improvements that'll make the
program better suite you, the user. You can send comments and
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If you have problem accessing my homepage then try my other sites...
http://trailerpark.com/phase1/next/fileutil.html --all my programs
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http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Park/7532/ --the shareware
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Well, be sure to look for updates and other freeware that I'll be
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---Jan Barendrecht <janbarenATnospaminfase.es> wrote:
>
> The obvious way to strip HTML would be upon reception at the
mailing-list
> server. All members then would receive text without HTML. This
solution
> makes sense, because only one such a filter (stripping program)
would be
> needed and it would also save a lot of bandwidth for the list-server.
> Because of my handicap I missed out on present-day visual
programming -
> anyone familiar with one of the visual programming languages will
fix such a
> little trivial program within a day.
>
> Jan
>
>

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