1998/03/15 15:00
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #197
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 197
Today's Topics:
Re: universal approach [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Re: Twins/Flames in Mythology/Cultur [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Re: universal approach [ "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <rgvgATnospam ]
Re: Discovering the reptile within [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Re: African magic, juju, witch docto [ rtrevATnospamredsuspenders.com (Bob Trevit ]
Re: universal approach [ Geoff Mahoney <geoffmATnospamsihope.com> ]
Re: Twins/Flames in Mythology/Cultur [ Nancy <NancyATnospamwtp.net> ]
Re: universal approach [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Re: power of words (Re: Creepy Lobst [ E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net> ]
Re: power of words (Re: Creepy Lobst [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Re: universal approach [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Re: Public Apology to Lobster [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Re: skipping chakras [ Druout <DruoutATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: skipping chakras [ Geoff Mahoney <geoffmATnospamsihope.com> ]
The Lobster Situation [ "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <rgvgATnospam ]
Re: Public Apology to Lobster [ "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <rgvgATnospam ]
Re: universal approach [ Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net> ]
Re: universal approach [ E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net> ]
Hi everyone! [ Shamanic Scene <shamanicsceneATnospamyahoo ]
Kundalini [ Shamanic Scene <shamanicsceneATnospamyahoo ]
Re: power of words (Re: Creepy Lobst [ valeriec <madammumATnospamptialaska.net> ]
Re: The Lobster Situation [ valeriec <madammumATnospamptialaska.net> ]
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 10:39:01 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
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Subject: Re: universal approach
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Joshua (Deu8 3 <Deu83ATnospamaol.com>) wrote:
>...It doesn't matter
>if you call it ki, chi, innate force, conciousness, or kundalini.
>It's root is in self-worship and fire (sun)-worship.
>...First of all, beware of
>anything that glorifies a snake!
>I'm not saying that kundalini is witchcraft stuff, but I am saying that it is
>anti-biblical.
So why are you on this list, Joshua? Are you immune to the nasty effects
of self-worship, fire (sun)-worship, snake-glorification, and
anti-biblical, possibly witchy, stuff? Just here to enlighten us
snake-bitten sinners?
Better watch out! People who hang around here sometimes get zapped by the
power overflow!! Or bitten by Mystress! <grin>
Ann
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 09:46:46 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Twins/Flames in Mythology/Culture
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Nancy <NancyATnospamwtp.net> wrote:
>
>I'm conducting research for a book on twin flames. I'm trying to find
>references to twin flames, twins, and flames in mythology and culture. I
>would be interested in both ancient and more current references. Since
>there are thousands of books on mythology and culture, it's difficult to
>hone in on such a narrow topic.
>
>Anyone have any ideas? A bit off topic, so please direct responses
>directly to me.
I've heard "twin flames" defined in more than one way. Would you give us
your definition?
Ann
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 08:51:05 PST
From: "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <rgvgATnospamhotmail.com>
To: annfisherATnospamstic.net
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Subject: Re: universal approach
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Good one Ann!
Kundalini is about experience not
taugh-by-other-even-if-one-doeesnt´understand. About Mystress, dear
Angelique: What`s your opinion about all this?
>Joshua (Deu8 3 <Deu83ATnospamaol.com>) wrote:
>
>>...It doesn't matter
>>if you call it ki, chi, innate force, conciousness, or kundalini.
>>It's root is in self-worship and fire (sun)-worship.
>
>>...First of all, beware of
>>anything that glorifies a snake!
>
>>I'm not saying that kundalini is witchcraft stuff, but I am saying
that it is
>>anti-biblical.
>
>So why are you on this list, Joshua? Are you immune to the nasty
effects
>of self-worship, fire (sun)-worship, snake-glorification, and
>anti-biblical, possibly witchy, stuff? Just here to enlighten us
>snake-bitten sinners?
>
>Better watch out! People who hang around here sometimes get zapped by
the
>power overflow!! Or bitten by Mystress! <grin>
>
>Ann
>
>
>
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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 10:55:47 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
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Subject: Re: Discovering the reptile within
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Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu> wrote:
The post regarding African shamanism and kundalini sparked me to pose a
comment I've been musing about.
I'm increasing tending to believe that kundalini is not a phenomenon of our
higher cortical brain faculties but rather the more primitive ``reptilian''
portions of our brain. So I'm inclined to forget about relationships
between kundalini and genius. I guess if I had any remaining prejudices
that kundalini was linked to genius they went out with the discussions that
Gene Kieffer evoked late last year. But it does seem that kundalini can
have significant effects on our motor and emotional systems. Comments?
Kurt
Years ago I dreamed that I lived in a huge spaceship with other people -
the ship was all that was, it was the world. When it began to shake, we
went outside. Some men opened the cover of a large hole in the ground; in
the hole I saw the huge coils of a gigantic serpent. Someone said that it
was the World Serpent moving that shook the ship. We went back inside and
up to a classroom, where a teacher explained that all the power and light
and color in the ship was powered from the serpent under the ship. He put
diagrams of the wiring on the board - they were the only thing in color.
It makes sense to me that the serpent at the base of the world, which
provides all the power and color in the world, represents the old reptilian
brain that underlies all the rest.
Ann
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:50:50 -0500
From: rtrevATnospamredsuspenders.com (Bob Trevithick)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: African magic, juju, witch doctors etc
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On Sun, 15 Mar 1998 10:38:08 -0600, Ann Morrison Fisher
<annfisherATnospamstic.net> wrote:
Hi Ann,
I confess my ignorance. I don't even know what "Dogon" is.
Peg wrote:
>> The question is whether there was in fact a visitation in
>>> about 4,500 BC which would explain how these cultures knew of this dwarf
>>>star
>>> which cannot be seen by the naked eye and which could only be photographed
>>> with equipment that was just recently developed.
Dr. Sitchin spent 30+ years researching this very question, so, yes, I
thought Peg might be interested.
>Sorry I can't refute it - I no longer have the book. I tossed it into the
>trash.
To each their own. You found *nothing* in his work to be of value?
>On the other hand, I read one of the books Peg cites - I think it was "The
>Sirius Connection." Some of his more extreme conclusions seem unsupported
>and questionable, but the material on the Dogon appears to be authentic and
>of considerable interest and value.
I haven't read this, but will. Is this one of the books of
"channeled" information? The fact that some of it seems "unsupported
and questionable" doesn't really bother me.. most of what we discuss
here would be viewed by the general population as "unsupported and
questionable." :-)
To me, everyone has their story.. their own take on things, learned
through their lifetime, and I find it all of some value. Especially
after working with the mentally retarded for 20+ years. There isn't
one of them I haven't learned something from. So I just try to absorb
it all, and trust my higher self to sift out the parts worth keeping
and those which should be back-burnered for a while. I try not to
throw anything out.. but rather just store it in case it becomes
relevant to me at some point.
If I keep doing this, though, I'll run out of memory at some point and
need an upgrade. Good thing memory is cheap these days. :-)
Love,
Bob
--
Bob Trevithick
rtrevATnospamredsuspenders.com
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 11:53:18 -0800
From: Geoff Mahoney <geoffmATnospamsihope.com>
To: Roberto Gonzales del Valle <rgvgATnospamhotmail.com>
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Roberto Gonzales del Valle wrote:
> Good one Ann!
> Kundalini is about experience not
> taugh-by-other-even-if-one-doeesnt´understand. About Mystress, dear
> Angelique: What`s your opinion about all this?
>
> >Joshua (Deu8 3 <Deu83ATnospamaol.com>) wrote:
> >
> >>...It doesn't matter
> >>if you call it ki, chi, innate force, conciousness, or kundalini.
> >>It's root is in self-worship and fire (sun)-worship.
> >
> >>...First of all, beware of
> >>anything that glorifies a snake!
> >
> >>I'm not saying that kundalini is witchcraft stuff, but I am saying
> that it is
> >>anti-biblical.
> >
> >So why are you on this list, Joshua? Are you immune to the nasty
> effects
> >of self-worship, fire (sun)-worship, snake-glorification, and
> >anti-biblical, possibly witchy, stuff? Just here to enlighten us
> >snake-bitten sinners?
> >
> >Better watch out! People who hang around here sometimes get zapped by
> the
> >power overflow!! Or bitten by Mystress! <grin>
> >
> >Ann
> >
> >
> >
>
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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 11:03:30 -0700
From: Nancy <NancyATnospamwtp.net>
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Subject: Re: Twins/Flames in Mythology/Culture
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Ann Morrison Fisher wrote:
> I've heard "twin flames" defined in more than one way. Would you give us
> your definition?
Hi Ann and all,
For me, twin flames are two souls who were "created" at the same time. These
two souls together form a perfect one. Some people also refer to this as
"twin souls."
Meeting my twin was like meeting myself. He reflected back to me all these
parts of myself that I wasn't even aware of.
Probably many of you have met "soul mates"--those people who you feel an
instant bond and connection. When you meet your twin flame, it's like that
and more. You find that you possess either the exact same characteristics or
complementary characteristics. I finally felt that I had met someone I could
understand and who could understand me at a deep spiritual level, someone
who I could love from the inside out. That feeling was immediate, we didn't
have to get to know each other before I felt this. But as we have gotten to
know each other, this has been confirmed.
Some people have a problem with twin flames being the perfect one. One of my
more spiritually aware acquaintances told me that he doesn't believe in the
concept because he think's we are all each other's perfect one. Ultimately,
I believe that's true.
But let me explain how twin flames could work. Our spiritual selves started
from the one. That one has many cells. Each cell becomes two. Spiritually,
the two from the one cell is our twin flame.
At first I thought the concept was sheer nonsense. I thought I was making up
my connection with this man. As time has progressed, I realize that this is
real. I have met many people who have recently had twin flame experiences.
(I am also planning to use personal narratives in the story, so if anyone
has a twin flame story to tell, I'm interested in hearing more.)
It seems to me that there might be some special significance right now with
meeting a twin flame. Perhaps, it's a special opportunity to merge our
fragmented selves back to our source. Who knows?
Once again, since this is off topic, please direct your twin flames story or
any ideas for twin flames in mythology or culture to my personal email
address.
Thanks for the question, Ann.
Nancy
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:39:40 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: universal approach
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>Good one Ann!
>Kundalini is about experience not
>taugh-by-other-even-if-one-doeesnt¥understand. About Mystress, dear
>Angelique: What`s your opinion about all this?
>
About Angelique? I love her dearly, I consider her a close personal
friend, and I thoroughly admire and enjoy her gift with words.
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 97 18:11:58 GMT
From: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net>
To: "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <rgvgATnospamhotmail.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: power of words (Re: Creepy Lobster)
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on 15 Mar 98, Roberto Gonzales del Valle wrote...
>Yeah, maybe you`re right. But you, lobster, are one of the meanest
>people in the list, if not the meanest. I deleted evry single message
>you have written beacuse there is little bit of a rotten liver on all of
>them. Have you read yourself while writting all your bilis down? You
>suck, man! YOUR INTENTIONS ARE CLEARLY DESTRUCTIVE. And that kind of
>thing is the reason I seconded that vote you give me credit for.
You are quite right my intentions are clearly destructive - though I am not sure
if they are from bile or an anagram of Iblis (the Islamic devil) or the fevered
imagination of Peruvians. And of course you deleted every message - that is how
you understand what is going on, that is how you are able to prove a point.
There is a difference in resonance as you say and of course you must be aware of
my needs and the needs of the group and not your desire to prove something. It
is good you are as clear of my intentions and as aware of your own motivations -
assuming you are . . .
However what am I trying to destroy? Well my friend, I can see you are a
spiritual, forgiving, kind, tolerant, polite person. You can see that - can't
you? That is something that should not be destroyed.
However there is something that I would destroy (but cannot - that is up to you)
because it leads you to think that you are not responsible for your animosity
(which people on this forum feel) - just as people understand and feel my true
intent and motivation. You are accountable, as I am for everything I say and do.
You will find great good will come of what you have said but that is in spite of
you - not because of you. The reason? Watch carefully . . . Oh you can not :)
because you delete everything . . .
>>Let us say I am a fool. Is it courtesy to allow me to act foolishly or
>would it
>>be far more tactful and courteous to say, "Excuse me but do you or
>would you
>>consider the possibility (tact creeping in) that you are a fool?"
>No lobster. Intelligence can´t be meassured. It has alot of directions.
I believe I have the measure of your intelligence. I can see the direction I
need to go. I wonder if you have the same intelligence, to know your true
motivation and direction? For your sake I hope so.
>Besides, I won`t read your postings anymore so you cannot call me
>anything. And I invite the clever people on the list to do so. So you
>can reply all you want and show us again your rotten liver. But I won`t
>read your postings anymore. I`ll be thinking FUCK YOU LOBSTER when I
>know of your reply, but won`t read it.
You are sweet but then you won't know I said that - well maybe you won't be able
to resist and will peek? I can only wish you well for you understand nothing
higher. I wish you PEACE for you need that clearly.
The truth is your intentions are clearer than your capacity to understand them.
The 'clever people' will be most impressed with your advice and example. I would
advise them to recognise the wisdom where it is. Of course being clever they
have doubtless removed this posting already . . .
Be Well My Friend
The meanest Kundalite
Creepy Lobster
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 13:18:47 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: power of words (Re: Creepy Lobster)
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>>Lobster wrote:
>>"That's not an idea that is an excuse for abuse.
>>Y is never hurt by X
>>NEVER
>>unless she allows this - that is her responasibility
>>X always hurts Y no matter what the intention. Sensitivity is a
>delicate issue".
>
>>Let us say I am a fool. Is it courtesy to allow me to act foolishly or
>would it
>>be far more tactful and courteous to say, "Excuse me but do you or
>would you
>>consider the possibility (tact creeping in) that you are a fool?"
>"Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <rgvgATnospamhotmail.com> wrote:
>Yeah, maybe you`re right. But you, lobster, are one of the meanest
>people in the list, if not the meanest. I deleted evry single message
>you have written beacuse there is little bit of a rotten liver on all of
>them. Have you read yourself while writting all your bilis down? You
>suck, man!
>
>...But I won`t
>read your postings anymore. I`ll be thinking FUCK YOU LOBSTER when I
>know of your reply, but won`t read it.
>
>...HOW HYPOCRITE ARE YOU? And I`m not your friend. And
>your ego surely doesn¥t want me to be well. So I won¥t say good bye in a
>nice way.
>
>FUCK YOU LOBSTER.
Hey, Roberto:
Gee, I'm sorry you didn't ask my opinion about THIS one before you wrote it!!
Aren't you the guy who seconded these words?
>>>I'd like to vote in favor of old-fashioned courtesy and consideration
>>and
>>>tact, overall.
Roberto, take a look at the quotes up above and tell me: who is the
discourteous, inconsiderate, and tactless one?
Is it possible you don't understand the English words "courtesy,"
"consideration," and "tact"? I think you should learn them.
Here's a beginning for you:
Tact is not shouting FUCK YOU.
Ann
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 13:26:32 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: universal approach
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E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net> wrote:
>
>on 14 Mar 98, Dave wrote...
>
>>>the wholistic approach is in error. Sorry, but it is true. It doesn't
>>matter
>>>if you call it ki, chi, innate force, conciousness, or kundalini.
>>>It's root is in self-worship and fire (sun)-worship.
>
>You are so right! I have been saying that to these heathens for ages - Do you
>think they listen - they're too busy worshipping the Son - eh - sorry sun.
>However do not give up. Truth is with you. You are right and therefore
>righteous.
>
......
>This is what happened to me! I was struck several times in the leg by a Pagan
>Freemason from Utah....
Lobster!
This is one of the funniest pieces I've ever read!!!
<wiping the tears from my eyes...>
Thank you!
Ann
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 13:37:10 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Public Apology to Lobster
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"Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <rgvgATnospamhotmail.com> wrote:
>Lobster:
>
>I apologize for the word. We have no right to make other people feel bad
>and Val¥s note made me realize it. You know what? maybe we could even be
>friend and treat each other right.
>Sorry, Lobster. With all my heart....
Hey, Roberto:
It takes a big man to admit he's wrong and then turn right around and
apologize.
<clapping>
Good for you!!!
Ann
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 14:38:46 EST
From: Druout <DruoutATnospamaol.com>
To: maryATnospamsonic.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: skipping chakras
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Dear Frans and Mary,
I add myself to the list of skipping chakras.
Love, Hillary
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 13:41:17 -0800
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To: lobsterATnospamclara.net
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Lobster and list:
As you thought I read your reply. Coulnd´t resist. As I said before I´m
sorry but I think sometimes it is best and clearer from a person to say
to other a "bad word" instead of being:
polite-and-sutil-but-extremely-mean.
When I wrote about erasing your e-mails, I meant when reading half of
them because I knew where they were going to...
What pissed me off was when YOU WROTE:
"You are so right! I have been saying that to these heathens for ages -
Do you think they listen - they're too busy worshipping the Son - eh -
sorry sun".
"...Practically everyone on this list is possesed by demons and lies.
Thank God that you and I are posessed by the Holy Ghost. I think we
should get down on our knees right now and pray aloud; "Thank you Lord
Jesus for protecting me from Mantras".
Why then, staying in here?
So, if we are all full of demons and lies you must not take for granted
anything we say. You must instead try to save us being possesed by the
Holy Spirit as you are.
Roberto.
Lima, Peru.
P.S: Thank you for wishing me peace. We all certainly need it. I wish
peace to you too!. Thank you for speaking about the vivid imagination of
us peruvians (even though put in a context were imagination could be
replaced by freakness).
And List: Excuse this 22 year college student who sometimes misses the
point. We are all here for one purpose. But sometimes I get out of line.
I can help sometimes but NEED help most of the time. You know how tough
and strange is this part of the journey we are all into.
Peace and Love are the real answer. How I wish I was around in the
sixties. How I wish I was older and wiser.
Love makes the world go round. Let`s keep on spinning the wheel!
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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:10:42 PST
From: "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <rgvgATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Public Apology to Lobster
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>>Lobster:
>>
>>I apologize for the word. We have no right to make other people feel
bad
>>and Val´s note made me realize it. You know what? maybe we could even
be
>>friend and treat each other right.
>>Sorry, Lobster. With all my heart....
>
>Hey, Roberto:
>
>It takes a big man to admit he's wrong and then turn right around and
>apologize.
>
><clapping>
>
>Good for you!!!
>
>Ann
>
Thanks Ann, you post helps a lot. You have no idea of how awfull I`ve
felt this morning.
Roberto.
Lima, Peru.
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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:50:55 -0800
From: Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net>
To: kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: universal approach
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At 09:22 AM 3/15/98, Jeanne Garner wrote:
>At 10:38 AM 3/15/97 GMT, E Jason wrote:
>
>>I think we should get down on our
>>knees right now and pray aloud; "Thank you Lord Jesus for protecting me from
>>Mantras."
>
>...and repeat it over and over....
> Jeanne
> ==-* My stars!
:-)))))))))))!!!!!!!
Well, maybe just the last word....
The whole sentence has a wrong rhythm, you'd faint, like Franny. :-)
Mary
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 97 19:21:56 GMT
From: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net>
To: fredaATnospamblarg.net, kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: universal approach
Message-Id: <970315192156.n0001051.lobsterATnospammail.clara.net>
on 15 Mar 98, fredaATnospamblarg.net wrote...
>Back in all your gloria-ous splender........
>god, :),
>it's good to have you back, lobster.
My policy on Christianity is very simple. I believe the Roman way is best -
throw them to the Lions.
This is as I understand it is favoured by many Christians.
Glad to be back and I know Joshua will teach us much of the true way. We must
give him every opportunity . . .
For instance Luke 11,24 seems a little odd . . .
Lobster
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 13:01:32 -0800 (PST)
From: Shamanic Scene <shamanicsceneATnospamyahoo.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Hi everyone!
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Hi, I got the tip of this ineteresting list from a friend. Could you
please subscribe me?
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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 13:05:27 -0800 (PST)
From: Shamanic Scene <shamanicsceneATnospamyahoo.com>
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Sorry to bother so much but, for starters, what does Kundalini mean
exactly? I have heard and read at least a dozen descriptions.
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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:15:38 -0800
From: valeriec <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
To: Bob Trevithick <rtrevATnospamredsuspenders.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: power of words (Re: Creepy Lobster)
Message-ID: <350C36E7.12EBATnospamptialaska.net>
>bob: I agree with up to the point where you say "Attack me instead, ok?"
>
> It's probably useful to point out to others that attacks on other
> people are not generally productive, but why invite such an attack on
> yourself?? Especially after just having said what a sensitive period
> you are going through...
>
> I wondering, and please correct me if I'm wrong, if this is your
> standard approach to the world.. an assumption that you, unlike other
> people, are somehow deserving of attacks..???
>
> This is said lovingly, and gently.. not critically. Just food for
> thought.
v: not deserving of, just more able to withstand & willing to confuse
the issues!
;-)
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 12:23:30 -0800
From: valeriec <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
To: Roberto Gonzales del Valle <rgvgATnospamhotmail.com>
CC: lobsterATnospamclara.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: The Lobster Situation
Message-ID: <350C38BE.7F33ATnospamptialaska.net>
>roberto: And List: Excuse this 22 year college student who sometimes misses the
> point. We are all here for one purpose. But sometimes I get out of line.
> I can help sometimes but NEED help most of the time. You know how tough
> and strange is this part of the journey we are all into.
>
> Peace and Love are the real answer. How I wish I was around in the
> sixties. How I wish I was older and wiser.
>
> Love makes the world go round. Let`s keep on spinning the wheel!
v: I think highly of your abilities so far!
do you know what "they" mean when "they" say that the 90's are the
60's turned upside down? Bassackwards, or an inversion?
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