1998/03/15 09:44
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #196
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 196
Today's Topics:
Re: universal approach [ tgxxxATnospamjuno.com (tg langston) ]
Re: universal approach [ "Bob English" <gtaATnospamlanset.com> ]
Re: Discovering the reptile within [ E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net> ]
Re: power of words [ E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net> ]
Re: Excuse Me [ E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net> ]
imploding [ valeriec <madammumATnospamptialaska.net> ]
Aloha ! [ "Dave" <linnymATnospamnidlink.com> ]
Re: universal approach [ E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net> ]
Universal approach [ pam roberson <pamie59ATnospamyahoo.com> ]
Re: Discovering the reptile within [ PEGLUMPKIN <PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: power of words (Re: Creepy Lobst [ "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <rgvgATnospam ]
Re: power of words (Re: Creepy Lobst [ valeriec <madammumATnospamptialaska.net> ]
Re: Discovering the reptile within [ tgxxxATnospamjuno.com (tg langston) ]
Re: Emergency. [ "Roberto Gonzales" <robgvalleATnospamhotma ]
Re: HRTZEN: selective [roberto] [ "Roberto Gonzales" <robgvalleATnospamhotma ]
Public Apology to Lobster [ "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <rgvgATnospam ]
Re: universal approach [ Jeanne Garner <jeannegATnospamicon.net> ]
Re: power of words (Re: Creepy Lobst [ rtrevATnospamredsuspenders.com (Bob Trevit ]
Re: African magic, juju, witch docto [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 00:59:10 -0500
From: tgxxxATnospamjuno.com (tg langston)
To: Deu83ATnospamaol.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, butterbean6ATnospamjuno.com
Subject: Re: universal approach
Message-ID: <19980315.005911.3838.0.tgxxxATnospamjuno.com>
>> Then you will have heard both sides and will be able to make an
objective
>> choice of what to believe and what to practice.
Dear Joshua, our concerned Friend...
I will spend as much time as you would like me to, reading whatever
scriptures you want so I can make an objective choice of what to believe
and what to practice, if you, in turn, will hear also both sides and
LURK, not preach, on this list for awhile, and read some recommended
reading from the list if you are so open to this... so that you, too can
make an objective choice of what to believe and what to practice.
I imagine that over half this list are biblical scholars and have already
made the choice of what to believe and practice.
May I ask why is it so important to you that we act in a way that
supports your way of thinking, instead of ours?
xxxtg
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Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 21:16:11 -0800
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Subject: Re: universal approach
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Date: Sat, 15 Mar 97 06:04:53 GMT
From: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net>
To: PEGLUMPKIN <PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Discovering the reptile within
Message-Id: <970315060453.n0000940.lobsterATnospammail.clara.net>
on 14 Mar 98, PEGLUMPKIN wrote...
>body/mind is a real gas. Did you read the news that scientists achieved 100%
>consistent results in an experiment showing that you can reset the body's
>sleep cycle by shining a light to the back of the knees? The eyes have
>nothing to do with it!
These New Age Scientists get weirder all the time. Soon they will be
investigating crystals and trying to measure the light that shines out . . .
Part of the reason for the people espousing Kundalini or any worthwhile subject
in a meaningful way and to discourage the wilder excesses and theories - is -
wider acceptance. If you think it deserves wider acceptance it must be
acceptable (no more clues).
Lobster
Off to invent the light shining alarm clock that you strap to the back of your
knees.
subject deserving
Date: Fri, 14 Mar 97 21:47:09 GMT
From: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net>
To: "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <rgvgATnospamhotmail.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: power of words
Message-Id: <970314214709.n0000884.lobsterATnospammail.clara.net>
on 14 Mar 98, Roberto Gonzales del Valle wrote...
>>I'd like to vote in favor of old-fashioned courtesy and consideration
>and
>>tact, overall.
>>And against the idea "If X's words hurt Y, it's Y's fault."
That's not an idea that is an excuse for abuse.
Y is never hurt by X
NEVER
unless she allows this - that is her responsibility
X always hurts Y no matter what the intention. Sensitivity is a delicate issue.
Let us say I am a fool. Is it courtesy to allow me to act foolishly or would it
be far more tactful and courteous to say, "Excuse me but do you or would you
consider the possibility (tact creeping in) that you are a fool?"
Things can be simple but sometimes we may point out what nobody wants to hear.
Nobody wants to hear they are foolish.
>>And especially against the idea "If my words hurt you, good, I did it
>on
>>purpose for your own good, and if that bothers you, it's your fault."
>Or
>>something like that. :-)
If you know nothing higher than you must be true to your capabilities. However
you are foolish to believe that everyone is limited to your understanding.
Nobody wants to accept that someone has more wisdom than they - but that would
make them foolish.
And if that bothers you - I take full resposibility (or something like that)
Be Well My Friend
Lobster
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 97 05:46:48 GMT
From: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net>
To: kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Excuse Me
Message-Id: <970315054648.n0000939.lobsterATnospammail.clara.net>
on 15 Mar 98, david.bozziATnospamsnet.net wrote...
>Dave wrote:
>
>> I truly grow weary with closed minded belief systems.
>>
>> Dave
>
>If someone were free of all closed minded belief systems
>would they cause one weariness?
I think we should open ourselves to the possibility of closing off any closed
minded belief systems.
Incidently . . .
Because someone is not weary does not mean they are free. I have seen many
dynamic, enthusiastic people rushing with complete faith and conviction -
straight over the cliff . . .
Lobster
Wearily getting up from the bottom of the cliff
Be Well
Date: Sat, 14 Mar 1998 22:42:34 -0800
From: valeriec <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: imploding
Message-ID: <350B783D.4F4DATnospamptialaska.net>
Dear Kundalini Community;
I wish I were more advanced in kundalini, & better able to impress &
enlighten each one with my progresses!
God willing, I shall attempt it!
Thankyou for hearing my earthworm-like outreach queries!
I sure like you all!
Thanx Again,
vc
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2098 02:36:45 -0800
From: "Dave" <linnymATnospamnidlink.com>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Aloha !
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I found some Beatles lyrics to a song that is rarely played now-a-days, due
to the fact it was originally released on a 45.
I am posting this to share their keen observation of how people communicate.
One thing these lyrics omitted at the end, was the fading out of the
Hawaiian word...Aloha, which can mean hello or goodbye, depending on how it
is expressed.
Check it out:
"Hello, Goodbye" by the Beatles
You say yes, I say no,
You say stop and I say go go go.
Oh no
You say goodbye and I say hello,
Hello, Hello
I don't know why you say goodbye,
I say Hello, Hello, Hello.
I don't know why you say goodbye,
I say Hello.
I say high, you say low,
You say why and I say I don't know, oh no
You say goodbye, and I say hello.
Hello, Hello.
I don't know why you say goodbye,
I say hello.
Hello, Hello.
I don't know why you say goodbye,
I say hello.
Aloha,
Dave
Date: Sat, 15 Mar 97 10:38:08 GMT
From: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net>
To: kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: universal approach
Message-Id: <970315103808.n0000950.lobsterATnospammail.clara.net>
on 14 Mar 98, Dave wrote...
>>the wholistic approach is in error. Sorry, but it is true. It doesn't
>matter
>>if you call it ki, chi, innate force, conciousness, or kundalini.
>>It's root is in self-worship and fire (sun)-worship.
You are so right! I have been saying that to these heathens for ages - Do you
think they listen - they're too busy worshipping the Son - eh - sorry sun.
However do not give up. Truth is with you. You are right and therefore
righteous.
>>The particular highways will effect other body parts down the road. For
>>instance, a man who is struck on the inside of the leg several times in the
>>right place will end up with liver failure. This is why the Free Masons
>and
>>Mormons and Pagans have certain pressure points to tough in there
>greetings.
This is what happened to me! I was struck several times in the leg by a Pagan
Freemason from Utah.
>>They are for sexual stimulation.
>>The wholism leads to misdx. in many cases, and is a straw man.
>>The thought of kundalini leading to genius is sad. First of all, beware of
>>anything that glorifies a snake! The "conciousness runs straight up the
>spine
It doesn't take a genius to see the error here. Snake handling is no part of
Christianity, even though it says in the bible that you can handle it.
>>to the brain (command post of the soul) to come out in your third eye.
>STOP
>>for a second and think of the methods used to reach this state. Emptying
>your
>>mind. If you empty it, someone else will enter. The people who are
>experts
>>in this field worship thousands of gods, if not more. They practice a
>mantra.
My God (Mother of God, Have Mercy on us) when will these people learn. Fill your
mind with any rubbish you can, rather than this. When it is full, nothing can
enter - Heaven be praised.
>>The mantra is designed to summon the god being called. You see, you empty
>>your soul, and call for another spirit to enter into it. The Bible
>describes
>>these gods as unclean spirits, deceivers, and devils. They may be
>extemelly
>>wise, but they are also malignant. They are liars. The promises they give
>>are a pretty package that's empty inside. The only person who delivers on
>>promises is Jesus Christ. Anyone who doesn't say that Jesus Christ is come
>in
>>the flesh is a liar and trying to deceive you. Be for warned.
Exactly. Well said. It is people like you with the courage of their convictions,
who point these things out, who get people back into church.
Practically everyone on this list is possesed by demons and lies. Thank God that
you and I are posessed by the Holy Ghost. I think we should get down on our
knees right now and pray aloud; "Thank you Lord Jesus for protecting me from
Mantras."
>>mean well (and many do). But, even Anton Levey himself said that "anyone
>who
>>thinks there is a difference between white and black magic is deceived,
>they
>>both have the same source of power" (a rare bit of truth from a
>professional
>>liar). The Bible doesn't say that white witchcraft is ok, but, black is an
>>abomination. Both are condemned. One is violent and one is hypocritical.
>>I'm not saying that kundalini is witchcraft stuff, but I am saying that it
>is
>>anti-biblical. If you love the truth, read the book of John and then
>Romans
>>in a King James Bible (the others have been intentionally tampered with).
>>Then you will have heard both sides and will be able to make an objective
>>choice of what to believe and what to practice.
>>A concerned friend
>>Joshua
How right you are. Bible molestation seems to have been rife through the
centuries. Mostly it was done by Christians (they had probably been kicked in
the Freemasons). I can only say that the people here will learn nothing. All we
can do is pray for them and hope God in his infinite mercy and wisdom shows them
the error of their ways.
Amen
Brother Lobster
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 04:17:34 -0800 (PST)
From: pam roberson <pamie59ATnospamyahoo.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Universal approach
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Hi Joshua. You are indeed a well intentioned friend. May I tell you a
little story? A friend shared this with me a while back, and it made a
lot of since to me. Ok, : ) here goes:
Once upon a time there were some wonderful wise men who sat down and
wrote of their experiences with God. They detailed their conversations
with God. Several ages later, a few more wise men sat down and wrote
of their experiences with the son of God. Both sets of tales were full
of wisdom and lessons to live by as told to them by God and Jesus.
Several hundreds of years later, this book began to decay and the
parchment was slowly falling apart. A group of monks knew this book
was too important to let it die and crumble away, so they sat down to
copy the book by hand. They also took the liberty of updating the
language so it could be better understood by the masses...but they
stayed very close to the original word of God and Jesus.
This was done over and over until finally the King of England decided
the book needed to be revised once more. I'm sure he wanted to
preserve it as much as possible, but he also wanted to make sure the
book supported the society of the day and would justify his laws and
commands he expected his subjects to live by. So small phrases were
changed, but in the end the book still contained the basic messages
and ideas that God wanted conveyed.
Now there are even more interpretations of the bible. While all of
them basically contain the general ideas that God wanted, it may be a
mistake to take each and every phrase literally. The bible is a
wonderful example of history and of the general lessons that the early
teachers tried to share with us. But like everything else in life, it
seems more beneficial to see all sides of a story rather than one side.
It seems to me that God, the God in the bible, being an all loving all
knowing God, would never condemn anyone for choosing a particular
spiritual path.
I respect you for what you believe. All that's important in this life
is to follow your heart and that's what you are doing. This post is
just about trying to view the issue at hand with open eyes and with an
understanding of the facts.
Many Blessings
Pam
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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 07:54:21 EST
From: PEGLUMPKIN <PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com>
To: lobsterATnospamclara.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Discovering the reptile within
Message-ID: <b610113c.350bcf7eATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 98-03-15 01:56:46 EST, you write:
<< These New Age Scientists get weirder all the time. Soon they will be
investigating crystals and trying to measure the light that shines out . . .
Part of the reason for the people espousing Kundalini or any worthwhile
subject
in a meaningful way and to discourage the wilder excesses and theories - is -
wider acceptance. If you think it deserves wider acceptance it must be
acceptable (no more clues). >>
Actually, these were not "New Age Scientists." I wish I had saved the
newspaper article, but the study was done by a major university sleep research
lab and it was reported through the mainstream press, at least in the United
States. It wasn't what I would call a wilder excess or theory, because the
article included the explanation that our skin actually has the light
receptors which regulate our circadian rhythms, not the eyes. But I do agree
that if we hope to foster a wider understanding of kundalini, we need to
filter out what I call "the flake factor." And in the spiritual arena, I am
sure we have all seen how easy it is to go off on a fruitless tangent in the
earnest pursuit of knowledge.
Must go now. Receiving a crystal transmission from alien reptoids that Elvis
is in the house,
Peg
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 05:40:35 PST
From: "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <rgvgATnospamhotmail.com>
To: lobsterATnospamclara.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: power of words (Re: Creepy Lobster)
Message-ID: <19980315134038.25917.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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Original Message by the Lobster (with notes and responses I just had to
share).
>on 14 Mar 98, Roberto Gonzales del Valle wrote...
>
>>>I'd like to vote in favor of old-fashioned courtesy and consideration
>>and
>>>tact, overall.
>>>And against the idea "If X's words hurt Y, it's Y's fault."
That was not mine. You should take care of your quotations. I din´t
write it so I won´t take credit for it (since it`s VERY WISE). I
secondend that vote because I do believe that INTENTIONS, if you are
sensitive (are you lobster?), have a resonance inside the reader.
>
>"That's not an idea that is an excuse for abuse.
>Y is never hurt by X
>NEVER
>unless she allows this - that is her responasibility
>X always hurts Y no matter what the intention. Sensitivity is a
delicate issue".
Yeah, maybe you`re right. But you, lobster, are one of the meanest
people in the list, if not the meanest. I deleted evry single message
you have written beacuse there is little bit of a rotten liver on all of
them. Have you read yourself while writting all your bilis down? You
suck, man! YOUR INTENTIONS ARE CLEARLY DESTRUCTIVE. And that kind of
thing is the reason I seconded that vote you give me credit for.
>
>Let us say I am a fool. Is it courtesy to allow me to act foolishly or
would it
>be far more tactful and courteous to say, "Excuse me but do you or
would you
>consider the possibility (tact creeping in) that you are a fool?"
No lobster. Intelligence can´t be meassured. It has alot of directions.
Besides, I won`t read your postings anymore so you cannot call me
anything. And I invite the clever people on the list to do so. So you
can reply all you want and show us again your rotten liver. But I won`t
read your postings anymore. I`ll be thinking FUCK YOU LOBSTER when I
know of your reply, but won`t read it.
>Things can be simple but sometimes we may point out what nobody wants
to hear.
>Nobody wants to hear they are fullish
>>>And especially against the idea "If my words hurt you, good, I did it
>>on
>>>purpose for your own good, and if that bothers you, it's your fault."
>>Or
>>>something like that. :-)
>
>If you know nothing higher than you must be true to your capabilities.
However
>you are foolish to believe that everyone is limited to your
understanding.
>Nobody wants to accept that someone has more wisdom than they - but
that would
>make them foolish.
>And if that bothers you - I take full resposibility (or something like
that)
>
>Be Well My Friend
>Lobster
>
"Be well my friend" HOW HYPOCRITE ARE YOU? And I`m not your friend. And
your ego surely doesn´t want me to be well. So I won´t say good bye in a
nice way.
FUCK YOU LOBSTER.
Roberto.
Lima, Peru.
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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 05:00:46 -0800
From: valeriec <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
To: Roberto Gonzales del Valle <rgvgATnospamhotmail.com>
CC: lobsterATnospamclara.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: power of words (Re: Creepy Lobster)
Message-ID: <350BD0F2.36ACATnospamptialaska.net>
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<snip intentionally hurtful crap>
> "Be well my friend" HOW HYPOCRITE ARE YOU? And I`m not your friend. And
> your ego surely doesn¥t want me to be well. So I won¥t say good bye in a
> nice way.
v: Roberto Gonzales del Valle...
hello.
what are you looking for here?
could you please do me a favor & not attack anyone PERSONALLY here?
rant & rave objectively all you want.
But, I am goin through a very sensitive time up here in Alaska.
Whatever you & your ego go through is between you & your ego.
Lobster is a very beautiful person & your misconstructions of him
give you no right for attack. Attack me instead, okay?
Lima, Peru - there was a vision of the Virgin Mary there once, right?
Now there is floods & disease & pestilence from El Nino?
It must be really muddy there about now.
It is always really muddy here in the TONGASS NATIONAL RAINFOREST.
Actually, El Nino has caused us warmer & drier weather than usual. I
praise the *source* for the warm sunny weather!
God/ess bless us all, Roberto!
We are all blameless. No One is to blame outside of ourselves. It is
all between ourselves & our Maker.
Thankyou For Hearing Me,
vc
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 08:20:27 -0500
From: tgxxxATnospamjuno.com (tg langston)
To: lobsterATnospamclara.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, butterbean6ATnospamjuno.com
Subject: Re: Discovering the reptile within
Message-ID: <19980315.093429.13822.2.tgxxxATnospamjuno.com>
<<These New Age Scientists get weirder all the time. Soon they will be
investigating crystals and trying to measure the light that shines out .
. .>>
This reminds me of an article I read in Discovery Magazine a while
back....
One of the top Physicists in the country stopped to have a drink in a
lounge and was seated next to a New Age Healer. They began talking, and
the Physicist asked the Healer how he did his healings. The Healer
explained that he used the power of the crystals and told the Physicist
how much energy is stored in these crystals for miraculous healings.
The Physicist in turn, told what he did for a living and used facts back
to the Healer. He explained there is more energy in a piece of cheese
than a crystal of the same size. With that piece of information, the
Healer could say nothing and got up and left.
No wonder pizza is so popular!
xxxtg
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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 06:45:32 PST
From: "Roberto Gonzales" <robgvalleATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Emergency.
Message-ID: <19980315144538.5750.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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Val:
I sent this message a while ago but i misstyped the Kunadalini adress.
>Remember you are there for a reason. You didn´t just wanted to run from
your demons but to face them and SHOUT at them "NO, I WON´T DO YOUR
WILL". I find one of the better ways to open the throat chakra is by
screaming. Find a safe lonely place and shout it out loud, all of it,
loud and OUT. Then you must surrender to your exaustion and rest. If you
are near the sea you have a great visual and sound spot. And thank GOD
beacuse he is the one doing all the work. Remember evil is expulsed by
the power of GOD. HE is the one that puts you in a circunstance to
enrich yourself (with enlightenment, which is the real wealth).
Don´t pressure yourself on painting because things come when they have
to. You´ll have a whole new frontier to look at and express when those
borderline feelings get in place.
And Specially, thank GOD for the safeness and the peace he will bring
you. And for having you surrounded by people like Tim (thanks, man) and
other supportive list members.
Love.
Roberto.
P.S: Breath in and out, slowly, and take notice you are doing it.
Isn´t it great to be alive here and now?
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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 06:55:15 PST
From: "Roberto Gonzales" <robgvalleATnospamhotmail.com>
To: madammumATnospamptialaska.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: HRTZEN: selective [roberto]
Message-ID: <19980315145518.5390.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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Val:
I hope it`s useful to you and am sorry to have made you feel
unconfrotable with by saying that to lobster. I will apologize publiccly
to him to make you feel better. See. You have made a good thing today.
Thank you Val, your emergency turn out for the Right, for me, Lobster
You and I hope other people too!
>Remember you are there for a reason. You didn´t just wanted to run from
20
>your demons but to face them and SHOUT at them "NO, I WONT DO YOUR
>WILL". I find one of the better ways to open the throat chakra is by
>screaming. Find a safe lonely place and shout it out loud, all of it
>loud and OUT. Then you must surrender to your exaustion and rest. If
you
>are near the sea you have a great visual and sound spot. And thank GOD
>beacuse he is the one doing all the work. Remember evil is expulsed by
>the power of GOD. HE is the one that puts you in a circunstance to
>enrich yourself (with enlightenment, which is the real wealth).
>Dont pressure yourself on painting because things come when they have
>to. You´ll have a whole new frontier to look at and express when those
>borderline feelings get in place.
>
>And Specially, thank GOD for the safeness and the peace he will bring
>you. And for having you surrounded by people like Tim (thanks, man) and
>other supportive list members.
>
>v: yes. Thanx Tim!
> I hear you, my good man! (men).
> what a "different lifestyle" we find ourselves thrust into, just to
be ourselves!
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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 07:01:18 PST
From: "Roberto Gonzales del Valle" <rgvgATnospamhotmail.com>
To: lobsterATnospamclara.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Public Apology to Lobster
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Lobster:
I apologize for the word. We have no right to make other people feel bad
and Val´s note made me realize it. You know what? maybe we could even be
friend and treat each other right.
Sorry, Lobster. With all my heart.
Sorry, Val. didn´t mean to hurt you.
Sorry List: Won`t use the f word here again.
Roberto.
Lima, Peru.
P.S: Must be "el niño" or something. But Lobster the not having to make
other people feel bad goes both ways. Love, sincerely is a wonderful
thing.
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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 09:22:46
From: Jeanne Garner <jeannegATnospamicon.net>
To: E Jason <lobsterATnospamclara.net>, kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: universal approach
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At 10:38 AM 3/15/97 GMT, E Jason wrote:
>I think we should get down on our
>knees right now and pray aloud; "Thank you Lord Jesus for protecting me from
>Mantras."
...and repeat it over and over....
Jeanne
==-* My stars!
Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 11:04:47 -0500
From: rtrevATnospamredsuspenders.com (Bob Trevithick)
To: madammumATnospamptialaska.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: power of words (Re: Creepy Lobster)
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On Sun, 15 Mar 1998 05:00:46 -0800, valeriec <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
wrote:
> But, I am goin through a very sensitive time up here in Alaska.
>Whatever you & your ego go through is between you & your ego.
> Lobster is a very beautiful person & your misconstructions of him
>give you no right for attack. Attack me instead, okay?
I agree with up to the point where you say "Attack me instead, ok?"
It's probably useful to point out to others that attacks on other
people are not generally productive, but why invite such an attack on
yourself?? Especially after just having said what a sensitive period
you are going through...
I wondering, and please correct me if I'm wrong, if this is your
standard approach to the world.. an assumption that you, unlike other
people, are somehow deserving of attacks..???
This is said lovingly, and gently.. not critically. Just food for
thought.
Love & Peace,
Bob
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Date: Sun, 15 Mar 1998 10:38:08 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: African magic, juju, witch doctors etc
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Robert Trevithick <rtrevATnospamredsuspenders.com> wrote:
>PEGLUMPKIN wrote:
>
><<snip>>
> The question is whether there was in fact a visitation in
>> about 4,500 BC which would explain how these cultures knew of this dwarf
>>star
>> which cannot be seen by the naked eye and which could only be photographed
>> with equipment that was just recently developed.
>
><<snip>>
>
>I'll bet you would really enjoy the works of Zeccariah Sitchin,
>collectively called "The Earth Chronicles." The first book, if I recall
>correctly, is "The 12th Planet."
So you think anyone interested in the Dogon would also love the inventive
tales of the 12th planet? Not so, friend. They fall in two entirely
different categories.
I found nothing in Sitchin's book to convince me of the slightest
possibility of the 12th planet ever having existed.
>I always recommend these books to Christians, and have yet to have one
>who is willing to comment on it afterwards. ... yet I've yet to
>hear anyone actually refute what he says, either.
Sorry I can't refute it - I no longer have the book. I tossed it into the
trash.
On the other hand, I read one of the books Peg cites - I think it was "The
Sirius Connection." Some of his more extreme conclusions seem unsupported
and questionable, but the material on the Dogon appears to be authentic and
of considerable interest and value.
I look forward to the new research, Peg!!
Ann
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