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kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #145


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 145

Today's Topics:
  Re: Kundalini Music [ Richard Wentk <richardATnospamskydancer.co ]
  snake dreams [ "Cara McCormack" <caradeepaATnospamhotmail ]
  Re: True Love! [ Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com ]
  Re: HRTZEN: Re: Solving the Iraqi Cr [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
  Re: HRTZEN: Re: True Love! [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
  Re: Kundalini Music [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net> ]
  Re: Re: Kundalini Music [ AfperryATnospamaol.com ]
  Re: HRTZEN: Re: Solving the Iraqi Cr [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net> ]
  Re: HRTZEN: Re: Solving the Iraqi Cr [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
  Re: HRTZEN: Re: True Love! [ sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net ]
  my answer to poll questions [ Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net> ]
  squiggly white dots [ Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net> ]
  Re: Solving the Iraqi Crisis [ "Sen Ashanka"<sashankaATnospamaismi.ais.it ]
  Hot Flashes (??): was BB Guns, Back [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
  Re: squiggly white dots [ Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> ]
  Re: Solving the Iraqi Crisis [ Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> ]
  Off topic (fwd) [ dcondreaATnospampcnet.pcnet.ro (Blizzard) ]
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 20:13:40 +0000
From: Richard Wentk <richardATnospamskydancer.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Kundalini Music
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At 10:58 22/02/98 -0700, Stuart wrote:
>A book that you may want to look into is "The Secret Power of Music" by
>David Tame. It's probably the closest related book to the subject at
>hand I've seen. It has been a really long time since I read it but I
>believe the general idea is related to various types of music and it's
>effect on conciousness. It traces various forms of music in different
>cultures.

Isn't that the one that says 'Jazz was put through by the dark forces...'? :)

Worth a read, but I did find it a little, uh, Theosophical in its approach.

Re: Mr Oldfield - I'll just second the comments made. The Songs of Distant
Earth is one of the most spiritually powerful pieces of music I've heard
outside of classical music. Ommadawn and Amarok are outstanding too -
although Amarok's a little odd, and some might find it an acquired taste.

Also well worth a listen is anything by Loreena McKennit, especially the
last few albums. Book of Secrets is currently doing well all over the
world, but her earlier ones - The Visit and The Mask and Mirror - are also
classics for anyone who likes the Celtic style.

They're very powerful indeed, and La McKennit is one of the few artists to
have made it to the top while keeping her spiritual principles intact. (You
want musical shaktipat? You got it... :) )

Stunning...

I bought The Visit the same day that I bought The Songs of Distant Earth. I
played them one after the other and I was *gone* - absolutely out of it, in
an altered state the whole time. No drugs required. :)

R.
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 12:37:29 PST
From: "Cara McCormack" <caradeepaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: snake dreams
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   I used to have a lot of snake dreams.....one was with cobras and the
other rattle snakes.....in one i was walking thru a house with snakes on
the floor ..and i had to be really careful where to step...I wanted to
get outside...to get to a safe place...but it turns out there were
snakes out there too...!! Hummmm what could possible be the meaning of
this dream????
     I think it means I can't escape from the kundalini....
   yep....
  well thats all..
    deepa

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Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 16:04:00 EST
From: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com
To: HeartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: True Love!
Message-ID: <d0f0eb5f.34f092c2ATnospamaol.com>

Dear friends: The following poem describes the spiritual struggle and the
culmination
leading to Kevala Nirvikalpa Samadhi where the Self Recognizes It Self.

TRUE LOVE, DIVINE LOVE
I fell in love
I fell in a well
I fell in a well of love
I splashed all about
trying to get out
out of the well of love;
terror seized me
came this thought
all is lost.
Tried to swim out
heard myself shout
Help! A drowning man
gasped for breath
close seemed death
I wildly thrashed around
in the well of love
and in time got out
safe and sound.

Cold and shaken
lost in thought
dripping from head to toe;
I was not sure
if the battle fought
had been with a friend or foe.
Still, my shivering body
sought no shelter and
with no place to go
stood quietly into the night
until the sunrise again
brought back life's glow.
It was then that
I missed love;
and many times
circled the well of love.
Looked inside but
could not tell
how deep it was.

I felt its call
the well of love
and could not look away
but how long can one stand
on the bridge of faith
and bear such human pain
so I could not help it
and jumped in
the well of love again.

Now, water water everywhere
all thought has ceased to be
and everywhere I stare
My love's face is what I see
Yes, water water everywhere
not a single sound is made
I did drown in the well of love
and only love remained.

Copyright 1995, Harsh K. Luthar
(also called Harsha, Harshadeva, Harshacharya etc.)
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 12:29:29 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net>
CC: heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: HRTZEN: Re: Solving the Iraqi Crisis
Message-ID: <34F00C17.414AATnospamintercomm.com>

Danijel Turina wrote:
>
>
> I don't know - Medjugorje indeed is a powerful spiritual spot, and so close
> to the very heart of the violence. Without it, everything would probably
> collapse to hell. One of the interesting things I have heard of: the Serbs
> bombed it, they dropped the cluster bombs on the area. The bombs either
> didn't explode, or made no damage if they did. :)
>
> Gg
Yes, we have heard that from Wayne, a man that has gone there maybe
twenty or more times and travels around the world talking about it. This
just shows that God's hand is in what is coming down there and it is
probably being used to give people time to look about and make choices.
We are given a lot of free will space to deal with life and also to look
at what hate does to humanity, and when you have in one country the two
extremes of happening, hate/murder/destruction and in the same country,
love/forgiveness and transformation, it is very powerful. If you get the
chance to go there it would be wonderful for you to do it. Then you can
give us your impressions of the experience. How far are you from there?
>
> -----
> E-mail : dturinaATnospamusa.net
> Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1377

--

Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
 e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 13:54:51 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com
CC: HeartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: HRTZEN: Re: True Love!
Message-ID: <34F02015.68DDATnospamintercomm.com>

Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com wrote:

GG
Thanks, great sharing and so true. Always that letting go and surrender
to Divine Love and Divine Will.
>
>
> I felt its call
> the well of love
> and could not look away
> but how long can one stand
> on the bridge of faith
> and bear such human pain
> so I could not help it
> and jumped in
> the well of love again.
>
> Now, water water everywhere
> all thought has ceased to be
> and everywhere I stare
> My love's face is what I see
> Yes, water water everywhere
> not a single sound is made
> I did drown in the well of love
> and only love remained.
>
> Copyright 1995, Harsh K. Luthar
> (also called Harsha, Harshadeva, Harshacharya etc.)

--

Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
 e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 23:24:46 +0100
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Kundalini Music
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980222232446.00991df0ATnospampop.netaddress.com>
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Hi Richard! :)

>Re: Mr Oldfield - I'll just second the comments made. The Songs of Distant
>Earth is one of the most spiritually powerful pieces of music I've heard
>outside of classical music. Ommadawn and Amarok are outstanding too -
>although Amarok's a little odd, and some might find it an acquired taste.

Have you listened to the Tubular Bells II? ;)

-----
E-mail : dturinaATnospamusa.net
Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1377
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 17:36:23 EST
From: AfperryATnospamaol.com
To: stuartfATnospamdimensional.com
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Re: Kundalini Music
Message-ID: <aae4f5bb.34f0a869ATnospamaol.com>

Dear Stuart,

Yes, I agree with you re. David Tame's excellent book which I read about a
year ago and found fascinating and very well argued. I would recommend it to
anyone interested in the subtle power of sound. But pop and jazz lovers may
find Tame difficult to swallow (although I found his reasoning hard to fault)!

I think Tame is a follower of Elizabeth Clare Prophet/Summit University.

Blessings,
Alan
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 01:24:50 +0100
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net>
To: heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: HRTZEN: Re: Solving the Iraqi Crisis
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Hi Gloria! :)

At 12:29 1998.02.22 +0100, Gloria Greco wrote:
>> I don't know - Medjugorje indeed is a powerful spiritual spot, and so close
>> to the very heart of the violence. Without it, everything would probably
>> collapse to hell. One of the interesting things I have heard of: the Serbs
>> bombed it, they dropped the cluster bombs on the area. The bombs either
>> didn't explode, or made no damage if they did. :)
>>
>> Gg
>Yes, we have heard that from Wayne, a man that has gone there maybe
>twenty or more times and travels around the world talking about it. This
>just shows that God's hand is in what is coming down there and it is
>probably being used to give people time to look about and make choices.

Yes, I felt great hearing about that. :)

>We are given a lot of free will space to deal with life and also to look
>at what hate does to humanity, and when you have in one country the two
>extremes of happening, hate/murder/destruction and in the same country,
>love/forgiveness and transformation, it is very powerful.

:)

>If you get the
>chance to go there it would be wonderful for you to do it. Then you can
>give us your impressions of the experience. How far are you from there?

Actually, it is not the distance, it would probably take a couple of hours
driving, but I don't feel drawn towards it, it is OK but nothing there for
me. Actually I think about going to an island here on the Adriatic, away
from the background noise, just a week or so, to work with my students on
some more demanding things - I will probably do that. :)

-----
E-mail : dturinaATnospamusa.net
Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1377
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 18:19:22 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net>
CC: heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: HRTZEN: Re: Solving the Iraqi Crisis
Message-ID: <34F05E15.6419ATnospamintercomm.com>

Danijel Turina wrote:
>
> Actually, it is not the distance, it would probably take a couple of hours
> driving, but I don't feel drawn towards it, it is OK but nothing there for
> me. Actually I think about going to an island here on the Adriatic, away
> from the background noise, just a week or so, to work with my students on
> some more demanding things - I will probably do that. :)

Gg
Probably some piece and quiet is very valueable isn't it? Do you all
live together in an area? Thanks for sharing, we need to be reminded
that life isn't always the way it appears here in America.
>
> -----
> E-mail : dturinaATnospamusa.net
> Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1377

--

Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
 e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 02:15:16 GMT
From: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: HRTZEN: Re: True Love!
Message-ID: <34f0daef.40796233ATnospammailhost.worldnet.att.net>

I'm sitting here listening to the "Best of Heart" fighting a flu bug.
This is what says it for me.

TURNING

He had long won it through gazing.
Stars fell to their knees
under his grappling up-glance.
Or he gazed beseechingly,
and the scent of his urgency
wearied an Immortal,
until it smiled on him from sleep.

Towers he gazed at with such force
that they were startled
building them up again, abruptly, and in an instant!
But how often the landscape,
overburdened by the day,
rested in his quiet perceiving, at twilight.

Animals stepped trustingly
into his open gaze as they pastured,
and the caged lions
stared in as into unthinkable freedom;
birds flew straight through it,
as it made room; flowers
gazed back in it
greatly, as in children.

And the rumor that a 'gazer' existed
stirred the less clearly,
more questionably visible ones.
stirred women.

Gazing how long?
How long inwardly lacking,
imploring deep down in his glance?
When he, forever waiting, sat far from home; the hotel's
distracted, turned -aside room
sullenly around him, and in the avoided mirror
again the room
and later from the tormenting bet
again:
there was counsel in the air,
beyond grasping there was counsel
over his still feelable heart,
over his heart which through the buried alive body
could nevertheless he felt
they had counsel and passed judgment:
it did not have love.

(And forbade him further consecrations.)

For the act of gazing sets limits.
And the world gazed at more deeply
wants to flourish in love.

Work of the eyes is done,
begin heartwork now
on those images in you, those captive ones;
for you conquered them: but now you don't know them.
Behold, inner man, your inner woman,
she who was won
from a thousand natures, she
the till now only won,
as yet never loved creation.

Rainer Maria Rilke
Paris, June 20, 1914
Translation: Edward Snow
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 23:21:08 -0800
From: Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: my answer to poll questions
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980222104054.006f0920ATnospampop.sonic.net>
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Before K arising (1979, at age 35):

>Meditation: a very very little set it off (Jiriki Buddhist)

>Chant: never

>Prayer: not for years, tho strongly years before

>Hatha Yoga: a very little maybe

>OBE: not for years. saw lots of golden light in teen years :-)

>Agnostic: yes

>Shaktipat: no contact with any possible guru before it awakened

IMO it was awakened by a 'coincidental' combination of going off birth
control pills, pre-diabetic hypoglycemia with strict diet and monitoring of
emotions, staying home and doing craft work making designs from abstract
patterns ... and maybe fumes from batik wax :-)

After about a year of K 'craziness', reading Wm James, Timothy Leary,
/Cosmic Consciousness/ etc, I read Muktananda's /Play of Consciousness/ and
that seemed much the best description of /all/ the symptoms I was having,
including the uncertainty. So I visited a Muktananda ashram and learned all
the support stuff: veg diet, chanting, asanas, etc. That smoothed it out
nicely.

Then I went travelling looking for just the right ashram-home, and got kind
of caught up in adventures. Haven't found a belief-system or environment
that really seems to fit my K experience (tho classic Muktananda and
Hindu/Jain yoga is close and wonderful).

Did a lot of yoga, med, etc for years there.

Now, probably not doing enough of any of them. :-) K has slowed down and
become very mild and weak. I'm more focussed on worldly things, not
encouraging K much. Filling in the gaps by studying psychic aura healing,
entity removal, some neo-pagan stuff, etc. GEtting Upledger work (to
correct skull damage that may have turned off K stuff at age 20).

Hm, maybe that's because of being less agnostic???? :-)))))) STarting to
believe there is an after-life etc, makes me feel like better be
worldly/productive while I have the chance, there will be plenty of time
for meditation and K in Bardo or Summerland!

Also -- feel there is somewhere just the perfect "spiritual family", want
to find them first and do the meditation/K in the right environment.... But
first, want to use productive years with the internet etc to write/channel
some really good books telling all I've learned so far so I'll have
something really good to read in next incarnation. Imagine if Gopi Krishna
had written /The Wizard of Oz/. :-)

Now:

>Meditation: short, several times a day ... sort of in background all the
time...
>Chant: occasional, and lots of silent japa most of the time
>Prayer: trying it :-)
>Hatha Yoga: most mornings, short
>OBE big one once every year or 2, mild but inspiring. short ones many
dreams etc.
>Agnostic: inquiring, testing, expect there is an answer to be found
>Shaktipat: met several gurus in early 80's, but their influence was
smoothing, peaceful. Never requested 'initiation' etc.

Namaste,
Mary
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 23:21:11 -0800
From: Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: squiggly white dots
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980222105507.006f0920ATnospampop.sonic.net>
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At 02:26 PM 2/20/98, nik thomas wrote:

> i like to
>after raising my vibration level lay on the grass and watch squiggly
>white dots float into the tips of trees, that one always trips people
>out when i bring it up. Does anyone else do that??

Barbara Brennan talks about them in /Light Emerging/, she sees the trees
absorbing them too. She calls them Orgones I think.

I see something like that, they wiggle like mosquito larvae! For a long
time this happened only when I was in a specially good clear state, like
after yoga class or with some person with a very good aura (usually yoga
teachers).

Brennan says anyone can learn to see them, so I followed her technique
(same as yours, look at blue sky preferably with trees) and can now see
them after a few seconds just about any time I squint my eyes. She gives
this as an exercise on the way to learning to see auras.

A materialistic view of these things (or something like them) is that they
are things happening at the back of the eyeball, I forget just what. There
is a museum called Exploratorium in San Francisco that tells about those
and has a sort of telescope set up with a blue background where you look in
and see them.

IMO it's a good exercise to practice seeing all sorts of things we normally
filter out. Even those germs that float around on the eyeball, and
afterimages, etc etc. The same filter that turns them off probably turns
off seeing real auras etc etc too.


Namaste,
Mary
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 10:02:31 +0100
From: "Sen Ashanka"<sashankaATnospamaismi.ais.it>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Cc: heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com
Subject: Re: Solving the Iraqi Crisis
Message-Id: <C12565B4.00308FD9.00ATnospamais.it>
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Somebody wrote :--

>Hey, maybe we all have it wrong! Could be that Bill and Saddam are
nothing
>but puppets and that we all are playing our part in this 'Grand Puppet
Show'
>called "Desert Storm ll"
>
>Question is: who is really pulling the strings?
Very well put.

The phenomenol world, i.e. the world we are used to seeing through
our limited five senses, contains the characteristics of inertness, force
and spirituality.

When spirituality is forgotten, inertness and forcefulness take over.
In a way no one is pulling strings, just a play of these forces through
our egos. The trouble with us is that we do not look at ourselves and
see ourselves think and act. We just act the way our feelings take us.
This leads to lack of self-control in out thinking and actions.

The more we are in positions of power, the more important it becomes
for us to exercise self-control. But, self-control and discretion is not
everybody's favourite activity. So, the result is individual and collective
actions to please the individual and collective ego. They have to
"live up" to people's expectations of "do something" attitude. A
political crisis earns a politician more mileage than signing a plan
to fix the village drains and canal systems.

As an example, politicians keep digging up some issue or another
just to have something to do. They (and us) have forgotten that the
primary activity of the politicians is to administer and manage the
wealth and economy of the community in a peaceful manner.

It is clear that both sides of the war makers are not acting on
spiritual principles. So, as far as who is pulling the strings, the
clear answer is our collective forceful ego is driving people in
power to behave in this manner. No logic would get through to
them, and since they have power, as had been put very well,
power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely.....

This is the law of this phenomenal world, there is good and
there is bad. But the creator has created both the good and
the bad, so that we, with our sense of discretion, choose the
good, reject the bad and travel back towards the Energy that
we have originated from.......

Cheers and love to all
Ashanka
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 03:23:21 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Hot Flashes (??): was BB Guns, Back Pain, Acupuncture & Hot
 Flashes (??)
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Michele <MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com> wrote:

>What I found interesting was that, I've NEVER had a "hot flash" before this
>wk. "They" started happening the 1ST TIME I did the grounding meditaion!...
>
>So now I'm analyzing menopause's k-connection....

I was getting hot flashes early; menopause starts early in my family. The
strong ones seemed to me to be connected to uterine contractions - I could
feel the uterus contract.

When the K. went into full gear, the waves going up the body often felt
like they were coming from uterine contractions. Again I could feel the
uterus contract. But I had had a complete hysterectomy, and there was no
uterus!

Love,
Ann
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 04:34:05 -0500
From: Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net>
To: Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: squiggly white dots
Message-ID: <34F1428C.C409753EATnospamconcentric.net>

Hello, since we are in vision,

Everyone knows about the way bees see. It's like a multi cellular thing.

Our vision comes, from tree kind of cells (reason why we can see colors), in
the back of the eye, that receives the light. It's interesting when our
consciousness comes to see the outside, like the bees does, feeling each cells
in the eye fell the outside, and try to follow the neural pattern of energy
into the brain.

Really gives an all new perspective on what we see in this world. And what we
are.

Same goes for all our senses. For me smell is the hardest one, after seing, in
coming in touch with the point where we but a distinction between outside and
inside on the physical level, unless i smell something intoxicating, a really
bad smell :-)

Love
Antoine

--
It is possible for two factors to exist simultaneously within the entity of one
consciousness; in other words, the mind that realizes emptiness itself can
appear in the form of a deity.
"Highest Yoga Tantra" by Daniel Gozort
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 04:43:28 -0500
From: Antoine <acarreATnospamconcentric.net>
To: Sen Ashanka <sashankaATnospamaismi.ais.it>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Solving the Iraqi Crisis
Message-ID: <34F144BF.9BB4038FATnospamconcentric.net>

Hello Sen :-)

> This is the law of this phenomenal world, there is good and
> there is bad. But the creator has created both the good and
> the bad, so that we, with our sense of discretion, choose the
> good, reject the bad and travel back towards the Energy that
> we have originated from.......

This is the law of the phenomenal world until we Open to the source behind in
the Now, where there is no god nor bad. Two sides of the same coin....

Our shadow is a big as our light.

Love to you
Antoine

--
It is possible for two factors to exist simultaneously within the entity of one
consciousness; in other words, the mind that realizes emptiness itself can
appear in the form of a deity.
"Highest Yoga Tantra" by Daniel Gozort
Date: Mon, 23 Feb 1998 13:29:24
From: dcondreaATnospampcnet.pcnet.ro (Blizzard)
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Off topic (fwd)
Message-ID: <16ATnospamdcondrea.pcnet.ro>

 Hello,

I need a programm to calcutate the sun rise and the sun set on
diffrent location if I know the latitude and longitude.
Also a site where I can find this it's good.

Thank you a lot,
Codrin

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