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1998/02/22 03:56
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #143


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 143

Today's Topics:
  Kundalini Music [ Geryl and Mark Waind <gandm.waindATnospams ]
  Re: BB Guns, Back Pain, Acupuncture [ MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com ]
  Re: HRTZEN: Re: Solving the Iraqi Cr [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
  Re: BB Guns, Back Pain, Acupuncture [ Barbara Shinton <ce269ATnospamfreenet.toro ]
  Re: Solving [ MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com ]
  Re: Kundalini Music [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net> ]
  Re: Solving [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net> ]
  Re: HRTZEN: Re: Solving the Iraqi Cr [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net> ]
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 20:53:07 -0800
From: Geryl and Mark Waind <gandm.waindATnospamsympatico.ca>
To: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Kundalini Music
Message-ID: <34EFAF33.255EATnospamsympatico.ca>

Danijel Turina wrote:
>
> Hiya all! :)
>
> I was just wondering... there were a few recommendations of music,
> literature etc., and I never read any of you guys talk about Mike
> Oldfield's music - which is a total mystery to me since all of us
> Cro-maniacs are completely crazy about him. :) Now _THAT_ is Kundalini
> music. :)) Shaktipat guitar + tubular bells, oh yeah. :)) My personal
> approximate top list looks like this:
>
> 1. Tubular Bells II
> 2. The Songs of distant Earth
> 3. The complete Mike Oldfield (2 CDs)
> 4. Amarok
> 5. Islands
> 6. QE2
> 7. Voyager
> 8. Discovery
> 9. Tubular Bells I
> 10.Five miles out
>
> You've GOT to hear this, you won't regret it. :)
> Especially the concert part - from the "The complete..", 2nd CD - platinum
> finale and Mt. Teidi. I can actually feel him feed the audience from the
> crown, I've never heard or felt anything like it anywhere.
> But warning: once you get used to _that_, you won't be able to return to
> the other "music". ;)))
>

Dear Danijel: I agree with you regarding Mike Oldfield. Have you ever
heard his sister's offering entitled, "Waterbearer". It is beautiful.

Or, have you ever really listened to the Moody Blues first 10 offerings?
Very spiritual indeed!

How about a group called "The Pentangle"?

If you want to hear some real Kundalini music try listening to Bartok's
string quartets! or Music for Strings,Pecussion and Celeste!

Janacek! Opera for the Dead!

How 'bout John Lennon's #9 Dream?

Or Sammy Davis Jr. - "Candyman"!
 (you can certainly reach God Head with this one!)
Ciao!
Mark
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 22:36:25 EST
From: MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com
To: oreaATnospamerols.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: BB Guns, Back Pain, Acupuncture & Hot Flashes (??)
Message-ID: <96cafeb8.34ef9d3cATnospamaol.com>

In a message dated 98-02-21 17:32:54 EST, you write:

<< Have you seen the bumper sticker, "They're not hot flashes, they're power
 surges!" Gotta get me one... (Somehow I doubt they know how right they
are.)
 
 Blessings, Orea
 P.S. My gut says "get rid of the BB!" It's causing more havoc than you
think.
 
 Hi Orea, gotta get me one too!--Michele
P.S. Have scheduled surgery in about 3 wks. The surgeon insists on general
anesthesia--&, with the way k-things are happening in my life, I predict I'll
have an OBE & visit my recently "departed" mother.
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 19:48:46 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net>
CC: heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: HRTZEN: Re: Solving the Iraqi Crisis
Message-ID: <34EF218B.24E0ATnospamintercomm.com>

Danijel Turina wrote:
> Gloria wrote
> >Wouldn't it be wonderful if it could be eraseed & humans would no
> >longer deal with problems through violence, but it just isn't that
> >simple, is it?
>
> Nope. :) It is a matter of evolution, not intervention. :) It must come
> from within. Pure love can help greatly though.

Gloria
Yes, for sure, and it is going to take some very powerful beings
experiencing that consciousness to raise this sort of thing, having been
placed their suggests you are a part of raising it.

  The thing is that the people in it have to enter into the
consciousness and for many this is difficult since they have no
aspiration in this regard. It still means the evolution cycles go on,
experience is a great teacher in this and change may come slow yet but
for those who are ready to get out if it, it is something else isn't it?

Medjugorje has had to medicate a great deal of what could have been,
imagine if that grace had not been brought down in your country, what
then?
>
> > What do you know about Medjugorje? Have you been there?
>
> No, I haven't, but I feel it as a powerful Shakti-spot, quite real and deep.

Yes, many millions of people have been turned around there and continue
to be. Anita who is on the list has been there at least twice, isn't
that right Anita.
>
> -----
> E-mail : dturinaATnospamusa.net
> Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1377

--

Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
 e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 22:58:17 -0500 (EST)
From: Barbara Shinton <ce269ATnospamfreenet.toronto.on.ca>
To: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
cc: MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: BB Guns, Back Pain, Acupuncture & Hot Flashes (??)
Message-ID: <Pine.3.89.9802212203.A24450-0100000ATnospamsheppard>
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Now here's a topic I can relate to.

I've menopausal for 3 years. The hot flashes used to scare the ? out of me.

Lately I've been taking Siberian Ginsing to stay cool. It works.

I have the odd flash but nothing to serious.

Barbara
Date: Sat, 21 Feb 1998 23:03:35 EST
From: MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com
To: dturinaATnospamusa.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Solving
Message-ID: <8785b49f.34efa399ATnospamaol.com>

In a message dated 98-02-21 17:10:26 EST, you write:

<< i Michele! :)
 
 (I have a feeling you actually wanted to post this to the list also - but
 it only came to me privately; it is OK to forward it all to the list if you
 like)
 At 15:40 1998.02.21 EST, MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com wrote:
 >In a message dated 98-02-21 07:46:25 EST, you write:
 >
 ><< I read that if the driver of the car had to sit on the
 > >front of the car the accident rate would see a dramatic improvment.If
 >
 > Yes, the air pressure makes one slow down a bit. ;> Walking is even better.
 > ;)))
 > >>
 >Hey folks! Jumping into your conversation about war, weapons & walking...
 
 >W/in a 6-month period last year, my car was rear-ended THREE times!--and the
 >last time it was TOTALLED when a car slammed into me when I was stopped in
 the
 >highway during RUSH hour. (By the way, I checked my brake lights--and they
 >definitely work, so I in no way "caused" these accidents.) As a result,
I've
 >been forced to WALK everywhere while saving money for a new car. (The car
 >that slammed into me drove off, no one got its license plate #--& I only had
 >liability insurance.)
 
 Wow, your car definitely had a bad karma. ;)))) (you mean, "carma"!!)
 
 >For the past few months I've been wondering, Why am I an "accident magnet?"
 >Guess the universe wanted me to SLOW DOWN! Thanks, folks, for helping me to
 >understand! Michele
 
 :)) Yes, sounds like a good explanation. :) Oh well, now is the time for
 some grounding then. :)) I'm so glad you're all right. I love you.
 
 >P.S. During the last accident, my foot got caught between the clutch and
the
 >brake pedal, tearing off the toenail on my left big toe. (Am starting to
 >think this activated some k-energy.)
 
 Yes, sharp pain or intense, sudden fear often do that. I keep wondering why
 has it been so rough with you? You sound like a beautiful person. :) :* :)
 
 -----
 E-mail : dturinaATnospamusa.net
  >>
You are kind! I also didn't mention that I had to move to a new apt. because,
after (gently) turning down the maintenance man at my former apt's request for
a date 2X, he started to stalk me (he tried a lot of other things too!)
FORCING me to move to my new apartment. I've also decided that the Universe
wanted me to move to my new apt--where I couldn't go out at night because my
car had been destroyed--so that I would spend all my evenings on the 'net,
learning many fascinating things that would help me on my growth path. And
meet all you VERY kind and interesting people! You're all GREAT!! Michele

 P.S. You're wondering why all this stuff has happened to a nice person such
as myself? Simple. As I've said to some of my friends, "I must have torched
a lot of people in a past life."

P.S.S. Or, as I would say to Chas, our Australian astrologer: Pluto has been
sitting on my natal Saturn on the Descendant exactly on the midpoint between
my Moon, Jupiter & Pluto on the I.C. & my Sun on the Midheaven--THE most
stressful aspect of my life!
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 10:47:05 +0100
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Kundalini Music
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980222104705.0098f9c0ATnospampop.netaddress.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>> You've GOT to hear this, you won't regret it. :)
>> Especially the concert part - from the "The complete..", 2nd CD - platinum
>> finale and Mt. Teidi. I can actually feel him feed the audience from the
>> crown, I've never heard or felt anything like it anywhere.
>> But warning: once you get used to _that_, you won't be able to return to
>> the other "music". ;)))
>>
>
>Dear Danijel: I agree with you regarding Mike Oldfield. Have you ever
>heard his sister's offering entitled, "Waterbearer". It is beautiful.

You mean, Terry Oldfield? No, unfortunately I didn't get the opportunity.

>Or, have you ever really listened to the Moody Blues first 10 offerings?
>Very spiritual indeed!
>
>How about a group called "The Pentangle"?
>
>If you want to hear some real Kundalini music try listening to Bartok's
>string quartets! or Music for Strings,Pecussion and Celeste!
>
>Janacek! Opera for the Dead!
>
>How 'bout John Lennon's #9 Dream?
>
>Or Sammy Davis Jr. - "Candyman"!
> (you can certainly reach God Head with this one!)

I'll have them in mind, thanks! :)

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E-mail : dturinaATnospamusa.net
Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1377
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 11:07:15 +0100
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Solving
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980222110715.00941820ATnospampop.netaddress.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi Michele! :)

At 23:03 1998.02.21 EST, MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com wrote:
>> Wow, your car definitely had a bad karma. ;)))) (you mean, "carma"!!)

:)))) LOL :))))) Yes! :)))

>You are kind!

:* :)

>I also didn't mention that I had to move to a new apt. because,
>after (gently) turning down the maintenance man at my former apt's request
for
>a date 2X, he started to stalk me (he tried a lot of other things too!)
>FORCING me to move to my new apartment.

Ouch! :)

>I've also decided that the Universe
>wanted me to move to my new apt--where I couldn't go out at night because my
>car had been destroyed--so that I would spend all my evenings on the 'net,
>learning many fascinating things that would help me on my growth path. And
>meet all you VERY kind and interesting people! You're all GREAT!! Michele

Great, I love those stories. :) These things sound terribly gentle and warm
just because they _sound_ so unpleasant at first. :)) A gentle and loving
hand is guiding you.

> P.S. You're wondering why all this stuff has happened to a nice person such
>as myself? Simple. As I've said to some of my friends, "I must have
torched
>a lot of people in a past life."

:)))) LOL :))))))) Yes, that sure is one explanation. :)))))

Take care, I love you. :)

-----
E-mail : dturinaATnospamusa.net
Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1377
Date: Sun, 22 Feb 1998 11:37:11 +0100
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net>
To: heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: HRTZEN: Re: Solving the Iraqi Crisis
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980222113711.00998690ATnospampop.netaddress.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi Gloria! :)

At 19:48 1998.02.21 +0100, Gloria Greco wrote:
>Danijel Turina wrote:
>> Gloria wrote
>> >Wouldn't it be wonderful if it could be eraseed & humans would no
>> >longer deal with problems through violence, but it just isn't that
>> >simple, is it?
>>
>> Nope. :) It is a matter of evolution, not intervention. :) It must come
>> from within. Pure love can help greatly though.
>
>Gloria
>Yes, for sure, and it is going to take some very powerful beings
>experiencing that consciousness to raise this sort of thing, having been
>placed their suggests you are a part of raising it.

:) It is a slow process. It has to start in the individuals - love and
deeper reality they start seeing in their lives, and then sharing it with
the others. I don't see much point in seeing people as masses - it is
useful to make wars, but peace is a matter of an individual, his or her
love and consciousness. That's where it all starts and that's where it all is.

> The thing is that the people in it have to enter into the
>consciousness and for many this is difficult since they have no
>aspiration in this regard.

That is why living example is so important here. People don't need us to
talk to them or lecture them about love, they need to be loved so much that
they can physically feel it in their entire being, and everything else
comes from that. Living example. That's what is needed.

>It still means the evolution cycles go on,
>experience is a great teacher in this and change may come slow yet but
>for those who are ready to get out if it, it is something else isn't it?

Yes, walking with open eyes is a completely new experience. :)

>Medjugorje has had to medicate a great deal of what could have been,
>imagine if that grace had not been brought down in your country, what
>then?

I don't know - Medjugorje indeed is a powerful spiritual spot, and so close
to the very heart of the violence. Without it, everything would probably
collapse to hell. One of the interesting things I have heard of: the Serbs
bombed it, they dropped the cluster bombs on the area. The bombs either
didn't explode, or made no damage if they did. :)

Take care Gloria! :) :* :)

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E-mail : dturinaATnospamusa.net
Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1377

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