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kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #128


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 128

Today's Topics:
  Re: compassion [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
  Re: Concentrating on the Ajna Chakra [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
  Re: HRTZEN: Is it a date? [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
  Re: Retreat <ATnospamcentroin.com.br>, [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
  Re: Concentrating on the Ajna Chakra [ Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net. ]
  Re: compassion [ Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net. ]
  Put me on hold [ YoniDakaATnospamwebtv.net (YoniDaka) ]
  Patanjali [ Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net. ]
  Re: compassion [ "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch ]
  Re: compassion [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
  Re: compassion [ Geoff Wheeler <gwheelerATnospamcgocable.ne ]
  Re: Weird Feeling/Visions [ "Larry Schmitz" <taniaATnospamcentroin.com ]
  Re: Concentrating on the Ajna Chakra [ "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
  Re: Concentrating on the Ajna Chakra [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
  Re: Put me on hold [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
  meditation on love and healing of al [ Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.co ]
  Re: meditation on love and healing o [ RadiantTchATnospamaol.com ]
  Re: compassion [ "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch ]
  Re: compassion (Breathe!) [ "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch ]
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 21:55:50
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
Cc: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: compassion
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19980213215550.4887383aATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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At 09:36 14/02/98 +0500, Peswani wrote:
>
> COMPASSION
> There are many list members who practice compassion for curing,
>but are careful enough to ground this negative energy so that they are not
>harmful to them.
> When our earth becomes heavy with these negative karmas, in
>ancient times AVTARS had to descend and lighten this world. These AVTARS
>came down from other Stars.
<...>> Compasion is the practical process of collecting ego kalapas from
>surroundings, and transcending it to Causal body kalapas for personal
>growth. But the person practicing practical compassion has to bear the
>karma fruit with Samta and awareness, and not t o pass on to earth by
>grounding.

  This puzzles me.. I send energy above or below.. usually above, but I
find the Fiery heart of the planet's K, can transmute the dark to light.
  Are we talking about the same thing??

> But be
>sure they are egoists. It is egoism that has taken them on this path away
>from self liberation to collective libe ration.
>SHAHANSHAH
>
  Yeah, that makes sense.. takes a big ego to wanna "save the world".
  Mebbie the world is already perfect, and doesn't need saving??
   Blessings, Mystress.
>
>

Mystress Angelique Serpent,
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
      :D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
   I would rather live in a world where my life is surrounded by mystery
than live in a world so small that my mind could comprehend it.
   -- Harry Emerson Fosdick
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 09:22:37 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com
Subject: Re: Concentrating on the Ajna Chakra
Message-ID: <34E402CD.40F1ATnospamintercomm.com>

your arrogance and not knowing is showing, what is your point? Gloria
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 09:17:19 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: rtrATnospammicron.net
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: HRTZEN: Is it a date?
Message-ID: <34E4018E.6075ATnospamintercomm.com>

Viki Richins wrote:
>
> Heartzen Friends....
>
> After my "knee orthoscopy" I got the opportunity to lay around a few
> days and contemplate a bit more than usual. I was missing your e-mails
> because the computer is at work, and I then began thinking of the
> blessings we all gain from being on the list...self progress, supporting
> others along their journey, interesting ideas and information, etc.
> Then I thought..well, I think we also have another activity if we choose
> ...and that is powerful meditation/prayer as a group. After all it is
> the responsibility of the seeker/lightbearer to offer meditations on
> behalf of humanity. We especially, now, appear to be at an apex, with
> the Iraq situation...the World heading off for another confrontation,
> etc. I thought it might be nice if some of us would take time on this
> Saturday morning (Valentines "Heart" day)to meditate for Peace On Earth,
> Good Will towards our sisters and brothers everywhere.
>
> It would be difficult to synchronize an exact time because the list
> travels across several time zones. But at least we could all know that
> sometime this Saturday morning we would all collectively join to love
> one another as ourselves and offer a meditation for Peace in this
> troubled world. Just a thought... and what say you?
>
> Have this calligraphied message in our home offered by an Episcopalian
> Monk in 1873. Always think it is nice and simple.
>
> "There is within us a depth, not of our heart, but deeper than our
> heart.
> If we enter into ourselves, we shall find the ground of our heart as it
> were broken up and a deep Well springing up from beneath it. There we
> find Admission into the Being of God. As we enter into ourselves, we
> retire out of ourselves into the Being of God". Father Richard Meaux
> Benson, 1873
>
> Like I said: simple, but quite perfect, coming from someone so
> "western" as an episcopalian monk.
>
> Hope to see you at the Well on Saturday...My warmest wishes to you all,
> Viki

Might as well invite everyone. GG

--

Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
 e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 10:12:40 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, taniaATnospamcentroin.com
Subject: Re: Retreat <ATnospamcentroin.com.br>,
Message-ID: <34E40E84.56D8ATnospamintercomm.com>

Gloria Greco wrote:
>
> Gloria Greco wrote:

I have an error coming up in your address, is this correct or is there
something wrong here?
> >
> > Larry Schmitz wrote:
> > >
> > > Dear Gloria
> > >
> > > I have been following your contributions to the kundalini list for some
> > > time.
> > > I visited your home page today...read your instructions on meditation. I
> > > instinctively feel that this message from your home page was not just a
> > > coincidence. As a matter of fact, I was so taken that I sent a copy
> > > to my sister in St. Louis, Mo. I live in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil.
> >
> > HI Larry,
> > I would be happy to work with you. It sounds like you have been working
> > quietly with your experiece for sometime and this will be a beneficial
> > step for you in learning detachment.
> >
> >
> --
>
--

Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
 e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 13:53:04 +0500 (GMT+0500)
From: Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
To: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
Cc: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com,
 heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com
Subject: Re: Concentrating on the Ajna Chakra
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On Fri, 13 Feb 1998, Gloria Greco wrote:

> your arrogance and not knowing is showing, what is your point? Gloria
>
>
 I find Danijel knows what he is talking.Whenever a person on the path
of purification is putting an effort and not using surrender to some
higher soul, his language will be language of egoist. His confidence
comes from the results that he has been self experiencing.
 Ego can encompass everone to approach egolessness.
 Egolessness can narrrow down to (total surrendered to some god or
Goddess) total ego by accepting nothing else.
 Both paths will give same results in the end.
shahanshah
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 14:11:29 +0500 (GMT+0500)
From: Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
To: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Cc: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: compassion
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.3.91.980214135359.10805B-100000ATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
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On Fri, 13 Feb 1998, Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:

> At 09:36 14/02/98 +0500, Peswani wrote:
> >
> > COMPASSION
> > There are many list members who practice compassion for curing,
> >but are careful enough to ground this negative energy so that they are not
> >harmful to them.
> > When our earth becomes heavy with these negative karmas, in
> >ancient times AVTARS had to descend and lighten this world. These AVTARS
> >came down from other Stars.
> <...>> Compasion is the practical process of collecting ego kalapas from
> >surroundings, and transcending it to Causal body kalapas for personal
> >growth. But the person practicing practical compassion has to bear the
> >karma fruit with Samta and awareness, and not t o pass on to earth by
> >grounding.
>
> This puzzles me.. I send energy above or below.. usually above, but I
> find the Fiery heart of the planet's K, can transmute the dark to light.
> Are we talking about the same thing??

 My view is that there are many silent andhidden compassion souls
in this world, who purify the dark energy in the atmosphere. When someone
sends a few drops of impure water in the sea of semi pure water. These
few drops of impure water will become purer to some extent by mixing. But
some one has to go on working on the sea of semi pure water to further
purity. That is the job that silent and hidden compassionate souls are
doing. ;)
 > > But be
> >sure they are egoists. It is egoism that has taken them on this path away
> >from self liberation to collective libe ration.
> >SHAHANSHAH
> >
> Yeah, that makes sense.. takes a big ego to wanna "save the world".
> Mebbie the world is already perfect, and doesn't need saving??
> Blessings, Mystress.
 Who is bothered about saving the world, This damn is a process
that explains the creation and its purpose.And then this big ego comes
out as false ego, as it enlarges to encompass everyone and into OBLIVION.
SHAHANSHAH
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 00:48:11 -0800
From: YoniDakaATnospamwebtv.net (YoniDaka)
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Put me on hold
Message-Id: <199802140848.AAA01090ATnospammailtod-121.bryant.webtv.net>

I am going on vacation until 3/3 so would you please stop sending e-mail
until that date. I will look forward to recieving mesages after that
date. Thanks in advance for your help in this matter. Namaste, YoniDaka
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 18:17:10 +0500 (GMT+0500)
From: Peswani <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
To: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Patanjali
Message-Id: <Pine.OSF.3.91.980214181522.12051C-100000ATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
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 Patanjali mentions that the whole purpose of this creation is to
first create Shakti(intelligent energy) thro evolution from Shiva(nature).
 And then to merge Shiva and Shakti at various levels of evolution.
 Shiva without shakti causes chaos,destruction and is
directionless.
 Shakti without Shiva will be stagnant and slowly will revert back
to Shiva.
 Human life is a step in the direction of Shiva Shakti merger. It
has physical matter and mind, and with this combination he creates and
controls certain powers of nature.
 But human life has still a great possibily of evolving to change
himself in various ratios of Shiva and Shakti in himself, so that he can
control the nature for splendours.
 Out of body lives and various uses of Siddhis should be the
purpose of human life. That is why Patanjali has written on the science of
siddhis.

 Today I was reading Patanjali's Sutras.
 While I have been doing Suniata meditation, I ahave been coining
different words for different experiences, that I have met.
 Within less than half an hour, I met with 15-20 difficult sanskrit
names for various experiences, along with cursory details.
 I felt that my Suniata meditation on Buddhic lines and Patanjali's
method of meditation is same.
 Hereby I give below the names used by Patanjali and equivalent
names used by me.

 Patanjali Shahanshah

1. Dharana Sitting
2. Dhyana concentration
3. Vitarka samprajanta samadhi lower mental body (astral) cleaning by suniata or pragya
      meditation
4. vitarka asamprajanta samadhi Merger at lower mental body (astral) body and cleaning
5. vicara samprajanta samadhi Causal body cleaning by
      suniata or pragya meditation
6. vicara asamprajanta samadhi merger at causal body and cleaning
7. sananda samprajanta samadhi buddhic body cleaning only by
      suniata meditation
8. sananda asamprajanta samadhi merger at buddhic body and
      cleaning
9. sasmita samprajanta samadhi atmic body cleaning
10 prajana meditation pragya meditation
11. Sabija samadhi pragya samadhi
12. nirbija samadhi thoughtless samadhi
13. dharma megha samadhi Nirvana
14. savitarka samparjanta pragya samadhi with
      disturbance
15. nirvitarka samparjanta pragya samadhi without
      disturbance

 Patanjali mentions that betwen the four planes of Astral, Causal,
Buddhic and Atmic level there are Gaps. And these gaps are to be cleared
by deep concentration. So that one should leave one plane and enter higher
plane keeping the awareness of the idea on which he is performing Prajna
or Pragya meditation. Patanjali ha s given no reason as to why these gaps
are there.
 Patanjali gives the name to this gap samadhi as asamprajanta
samadhi. If the gap is too much,very deep concentration is required.
 My inner voice says that their are two methods of crossing this
gap if the gap is too much.
 One method is to go to deep caves in Himalayas (complete
Isolation) and also to observe brahamcharya,so that one has virya
(strength) and peace to go to deep concentration. Though it is initially
difficult unless the soul is sufficiently grown, but there
 are advantages as well. One can go to the highest plane as per his
capacity and then seek merger in the highest evolved soul. this will
result in less effort and faster progress.
 Second method is to grow by suniata meditation. After he crosses
Buddhic plane and collects WISDOM, he should seek merger with other souls
by COMPASSION and close these gaps mentioned by Patanjali. It is because
that this merger figure is so high that on e has to accept all the planes
entities and purify to cover up the shotage.
 

shahanshah
  
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 16:18:00 +0100
From: "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch>
To: "Peswani" <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>,
 "kundalini-l" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: compassion
Message-ID: <01bd395b$bcf630a0$5d10bac3ATnospamzympho.bluewin.ch>
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> COMPASSION
>
> But our earth life grew up from animals. And at animal level
>survival (evolution) depended upon fear, hatred, suspicion,cunning etc.
>That is the reason that the present life is full of these negative karmas.
> There are many list members who practice compassion for curing,
>but are careful enough to ground this negative energy so that they are not
>harmful to them.
> When our earth becomes heavy with these negative karmas, in

Negative/positive is a judgment we make about the energy we experience.
There is nothing inherently negative or positive about energy. Certainly
fear, hatred, suspicion and cunning exist, but they are negative only in our
interpretation. It is the interpretation that we become heavy with.

> Such liberated persons can be angry, jealous etc for a few moments
>but they are aware of these emotion thro long practice and WISDOM. But be
>sure they are egoists. It is egoism that has taken them on this path away
>from self liberation to collective libe ration.

I might suggest that animals are always supremely detached in this way and
therefore supremely wise. Animals and humans experience fear, suspicion,
happiness, plenitude, etc. What separates us from animals is our
sophisticated interpretation system to which we cling desperately and
completely. Our immersion in it is so complete that most of us don't even
notice it. It is a huge hurdle that animals don't have to deal with. Does
it mean we should get rid of our interpretation system? I think not.
However, we could learn to use it as a tool. As a tool it has certain
effective applications like any other tool of the body - hands, feet, nose,
eyes, voice, etc.

Ego is an excellent tool when used appropriately. This begs a question:
what is appropriate, what are the effective applications? and why?

You seem to say that compassion is a most effective application. I agree
that it is a wondrous way. But why? Why should we favor this over any
other interpretation?

Jason.
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 11:12:41 -0500
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: compassion
Message-ID: <34E5C278.73D424B0ATnospammail.snet.net>

Jason S. White wrote:

> Ego is an excellent tool when used appropriately. This begs a question:
> what is appropriate, what are the effective applications? and why?

Who uses ego?
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 11:31:07 -0500
From: Geoff Wheeler <gwheelerATnospamcgocable.net>
To: david.bozziATnospamsnet.net
CC: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: compassion
Message-ID: <34E5C6CB.99CD4879ATnospamcgocable.net>

Dear David

What has ego to do with compassion? Spiritual awakening is a path of becoming
ego less. Open your heart, let go of intellect. Breathe!

Christina

David Bozzi wrote:

> Jason S. White wrote:
>
> > Ego is an excellent tool when used appropriately. This begs a question:
> > what is appropriate, what are the effective applications? and why?
>
> Who uses ego?
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 15:01:46 -0300
From: "Larry Schmitz" <taniaATnospamcentroin.com.br>
To: <RndmOneATnospamaol.com>, <Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Weird Feeling/Visions
Message-ID: <01bd3972$9d445cc0$1039e1c8ATnospamlarry>
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
 boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01BD3959.77F724C0"

Staci,
>From the little I have read you may be referring to a place just below the
belly button & in about 1-2 inches. I have heard it called the area of
first
consciousness. (Kundalini & the Chakras by Genevieve Lewis Paulson).
I have also heard that it is the place of residence of our spirit guides.

However, I am very new to kundalini, and am at the very beginning of the
learning curve.

Looking forward to other input..

Larry Schmitz
-----Original Message-----
From: RndmOneATnospamaol.com <RndmOneATnospamaol.com>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com <Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Date: Friday, February 13, 1998 11:49 PM
Subject: Weird Feeling/Visions

>
>Hi all!
>
>For the past few weeks, I've had a weird sensation.....a sort of
>tingling.....on the left side of my lower abdomen. It comes and goes, but
if
>I 'listen' or 'feel' for it, I can find it. It's kind of a low vibration,
but
>I only feel it on the left side. No pain or anything, either.
>
>Lately when I try to meditate, I 'sense' energies around me or visually see
>it/them move. I can see auras sometimes and have been able to all my life.
>But it's like I'm seeing the aura of energy itself. It's weird. Not sure
if
>any of this is kundalini related, but I figured someone would respond with
>more than I know now!!
>
>Random One (Staci) =)
>"When the distraction of the tongue is removed, the heart listens"
>
>

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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 10:34:16 PST
From: "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Concentrating on the Ajna Chakra/Peace??
Message-ID: <19980214183417.27975.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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>
>On Fri, 13 Feb 1998, Gloria Greco wrote:
>
>> your arrogance and not knowing is showing, what is your point? Gloria
>>
>>
> I find Danijel knows what he is talking.Whenever a person on the path
>of purification is putting an effort and not using surrender to some
>higher soul, his language will be language of egoist. His confidence
>comes from the results that he has been self experiencing.
> Ego can encompass everone to approach egolessness.
> Egolessness can narrrow down to (total surrendered to some god or
>Goddess) total ego by accepting nothing else.
> Both paths will give same results in the end.
>shahanshah
>
>Glo Lee:
Thank you for pointing out a conciliatory path to peace here. Your
remark about "his language will be language of egoist" explains (to me,
at least) the whole difficulty I once had with understanding YOUR
language (Peswani, shahanshah). The structure of the experience sounds
very different, in terms of what one seems to be doing, and one may
differ on the imagined effectiveness timewise..BUT actually.. where ELSE
is there to end up, anyway???When people seem to be going down
such wildly different paths..here on the list..or in life..it is very
helpful to remember this point you made. Thank you.

There is neither creation nor destruction,
Neither destiny nor free-will;
Neither path nor achievement;
This is the final truth. -Sri Ramana Maharshi

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Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 11:50:48
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com
Cc: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamusa.net>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com,
 heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com
Subject: Re: Concentrating on the Ajna Chakra
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   Mirror mirror on the wall...
  Gloria, in frustration at being bested, resorts to name calling.

At 09:22 13/02/98 +0100, Gloria Greco wrote:
>your arrogance and not knowing is showing, what is your point? Gloria
>
  That is the funniest thing I have seen in a week!
    ROTFLMTO!! Thanks for the hilarity.
    Blessings, Mystress.

  PS: These posts that come up CC: to heartzen list, do the responses from
K-list get forwarded to Heartzen also, or do you block them out so they
don't conflict with your narrow opinions of the correct path?
  Coz it only seems fair, if the heartzen posts are forwarded to K-list,
that presumably it is coz you want the opinions of Kundalites..
  K-list is opened to Heartzen, but is Heartzen open to K-list, or is this
a one way spatter? Just wondering...

>
>
>

Mystress Angelique Serpent,
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
      :D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
   I would rather live in a world where my life is surrounded by mystery
than live in a world so small that my mind could comprehend it.
   -- Harry Emerson Fosdick
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 11:21:11 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: YoniDaka <YoniDakaATnospamwebtv.net>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Put me on hold
Message-ID: <34E57012.6E41ATnospamintercomm.com>

YoniDaka wrote:
>
> I am going on vacation until 3/3 so would you please stop sending e-mail
> until that date. I will look forward to recieving mesages after that
> date. Thanks in advance for your help in this matter. Namaste, YoniDaka

I think it has to be sent in a different way, look up the unsubscribe
info so that Mystress gets it other wise you will have a ton of mail.
Gloria

--

Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
 e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 12:58:58 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: HeartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: meditation on love and healing of all
Message-ID: <34E58702.634DATnospamintercomm.com>

Hi all,
 What a beautiful morning. I hope everyone was able to find sometime to
join in love and healing, uniting the soul, spiritual world and physical
world.
 This is the 11th hour and so I'm reminded that indeed it is a blessing
to be. Love to all. Gloria Joy

 The hearts open and love and the spirits remind all that there is more.
Happy Valentines Day!

Enter The Silence to Know God ... and... accept life as the teacher.
Gloria Joy Greco
 e-mail me at : lodpressATnospamintercomm.com and visit our homepages at:
http://users.intercomm.com/larryn/
&
http://www.freeyellow.com/members/zg888/
Hope you enjoy them!
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 16:11:36 EST
From: RadiantTchATnospamaol.com
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: meditation on love and healing of all
Message-ID: <98b15873.34e6088aATnospamaol.com>

Gloria Joy writes:
<< Hi all,
  What a beautiful morning. I hope everyone was able to find sometime to
 join in love and healing, uniting the soul, spiritual world and physical
 world.
  This is the 11th hour and so I'm reminded that indeed it is a blessing
 to be. Love to all. Gloria Joy
 
  The hearts open and love and the spirits remind all that there is more.
 Happy Valentines Day! >>
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I thank you for the reminder, as I take a break from seriousness, and move my
awareness into that lighter space........AGAIN! LOL! Thanks, Gloria!
<breathing more deeply and slowly> :-))))))))))))))))))))

LOVE, JOY, AND PEACE TO ALL,
     THIS DAY,
    AND EVERYDAY,

<3 Barbara Ellen <3
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 22:52:26 +0100
From: "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch>
To: <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>, "Kundalini" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: compassion
Message-ID: <01bd3992$d6a6b560$4210bac3ATnospamzympho.bluewin.ch>
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My ego wrote:
>
>> Ego is an excellent tool when used appropriately. This begs a question:
>> what is appropriate, what are the effective applications? and why?

David Bozzi's ego responded:
>
>Who uses ego?
>

You do. You need an e-go to write and e-mail. I do. I need one to
respond.
Having read many of your e-males,
I see that you know how to see around your ego.
When do you apply this technique, for what reasons?
Date: Sat, 14 Feb 1998 23:06:40 +0100
From: "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch>
To: "Geoff Wheeler" <gwheelerATnospamcgocable.net>, <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
Cc: "Kundalini" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: compassion (Breathe!)
Message-ID: <01bd3994$d3b15840$4210bac3ATnospamzympho.bluewin.ch>
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Geoff "Christina" Wheeler wrote:

>Dear David
>
>What has ego to do with compassion? Spiritual awakening is a path of
becoming
>ego less. Open your heart, let go of intellect. Breathe!
>
>Christina
>

Jason responded:

The ego less state begins at death. Life is the path to death. So you are
right if "spiritual awakening" is the path of your life.

Compassion is certainly a fantastic way of relating to the energy within and
around us. The ego is of the energy within us and could certainly be
regarded with compassion.

The intellect is certainly a great tool of the human being. Like any other,
it has it's opportune uses. The intellect is of the energy within us and
could certainly be regarded with compassion.

The heart is certainly a great tool of the human being. Like any other, it
has it's opportune uses. Why should we stress it over intellect?

Yes, breathing is highly recommended (by 9 out of 10 doctors) for continued
life.
(Begs the question: what does the 10th doctor say?)

Jason.

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