1998/01/27 12:15
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #83
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 83
Today's Topics:
Re:eyes and ears [ Barbara Millikan <millikanATnospampnn.com> ]
Holographic connection [ "Ed Arrons" <eeaATnospamaug.com> ]
Subliminal Messages [ nkognito <nkognitoATnospamtcon.net> ]
Re: eyes and ears [ MeadowartATnospamaol.com ]
meditation report [ "Susan Carlson" <divine_goddessATnospamhot ]
Re: Holographic connection [ "Ed Arrons" <eeaATnospamaug.com> ]
Re: fighting fear [ Yu Zhang <yzhangATnospamcs.ubc.ca> (by way ]
Re: What God? [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Re: What God? [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #82 [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ]
Re: Summary in regards to bi-polar [ Daniel James Giszczak <danjgATnospamengin. ]
Re: What God? [ Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospambryant.edu> ]
Re: Holographic connection [ Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospambryant.edu> ]
Sharing my experience with "Titanic" [ RadiantTch <RadiantTchATnospamaol.com> ]
Re: fighting fear [ Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com> ]
Taking a Break [ WaterFall <watrfallATnospamniagara.com> ]
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 11:20:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Barbara Millikan <millikanATnospampnn.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re:eyes and ears
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Someone -- Anne? -- posted that they experienced seeing different things
with their peripheral vision, that the center of the visual field had a
purple shape in it, and that they had occasional peripheral light flashes.
I have all of these things, and what my opthamologist tells me is
that the light flashes go with the thinness of my retina at the edges (I am
very myopic - nearsighted). An increase in pressure effects the rods and
cones and causes them to fire. Coughing always does it to me, but
occasionally it just happens when I am reading.
The lighter -- sometimes grey, sometimes colored -- area in the
center of my visual field I associate with too much computer use, since the
afterimage is roughly the shape of the screen and wipes out my night vision
in that area. At the same time the peripheral field remains sharp and clear,
so that I can see many stars only when I look away from them.
The solution? Turn off the computer and go outside for a while.
"Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar." --Freud.
Blessings,
Barbara
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 14:37:02 -0500
From: "Ed Arrons" <eeaATnospamaug.com>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Holographic connection
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Objective and subjective views of reality have found frequent expression on the
list. There has been no mention (to my recollection) of a third view that is
not one or the other -yet is both. The concept of “Oneness”, unity with
Supreme Consciousness, and the like, seems to require such a view, since being
objective (or subjective) by itself is only partial and dualistic.
It would seem that the great difficulty in achieving the state of Oneness rests
on the lack of such perspective. It has made me wonder if some latent ability
is waiting to be evolved and what such perception might be called.
Occasionally I have experienced something like this in meditation with eyes
opened. As I explore various objects in that mind/state I seem to observe an
(etheric?) energy field surrounding the object and began calling the experience
“etheric vision”.
At the same time my understanding of reality has integrated this etheric vision
as my personal connection to the “Holographic Universe”.
Does anyone have such an understanding?
Ed.
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 18:12:49 -0500
From: nkognito <nkognitoATnospamtcon.net>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Subliminal Messages
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Gloria replied:
Wowee!!!!.And you explained this humorously even!!! And I used to wonder
why no one else saw all the signs and omens and hidden meanings, but now
you have shown me the answer!!! Thank you!!! I will think of you and
your vacuum cleaner analogy most gratefully from now on when I *see*
those hidden meanings and signs. Nice PS, too!!!
*I know better, but can't seem to find the words.*
Gloria Lee
>
Sherry Replies:
Well, my Euerka ultra vacuum cleaner has ESP.
EXTRA SUCTION POWER.
Sorry, could not resist that pun.
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 17:41:43 EST
From: MeadowartATnospamaol.com
To: millikanATnospampnn.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: eyes and ears
Message-ID: <e4d37bb6.34cd112aATnospamaol.com>
The peripheral vision and light issues others on the list described had me in
my eye doctor's office for hours with my head in a contraption responding to
light signals from a concave light board when it happened to me during a high
energy period of my life. They took inner eye pictures (the physical eye,
goofus, not the subtle one) and the whole nine yards....only to say my eyes
were healthy and they didn't know why I was seeing odd things in my peripheral
vision or had light effects that startled me.
Still don't know. Don't much care. Just go with the flow. They subsided
after a few months.
Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 17:03:33 PST
From: "Susan Carlson" <divine_goddessATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: meditation report
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Sunday night i did my love bombing on ICQ with Antoine. So Ann, maybe I
*was* in Montreal and not in Denver. :D
What I saw was all the ks list people sitting around a round
table...reminds me of the King arthur legend... very big round table.
Above was this shaft of light that came down and illluminated the table
and you all sitting at it. Room we were in was very dark, we were only
illuminated by the lift from above.
The more I focused on bringing down the light the more the waves of
Shakti went thru my body.
A quiet and powerful meditation for me.
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Date: Mon, 26 Jan 1998 23:28:22 -0500
From: "Ed Arrons" <eeaATnospamaug.com>
To: "Gloria Lee" <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
Cc: <Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Holographic connection
Message-Id: <199801270428.XAA02509ATnospamsandia.aug.com>
<-Ed:
Objective and subjective views of reality have found frequent expression on the
list. There has been no mention (to my recollection) of a third view that is
not one or the other -yet is both. The concept of "Oneness", unity with
Supreme Consciousness, and the like, seems to require such a view, since being
objective (or subjective) by itself is only partial and dualistic.
It would seem that the great difficulty in achieving the state of Oneness rests
on the lack of such perspective. It has made me wonder if some latent ability
is waiting to be evolved and what such perception might be called.
Occasionally I have experienced something like this in meditation with eyes
opened. As I explore various objects in that mind/state I seem to observe an
(etheric?) energy field surrounding the object and began calling the experience
"etheric vision".
[May I be somewhat clearer with respect to my "etheric vision", which I
define as being neither objective or subjective, but a unity of both. One
component of the experience is as described above. The other, which I
failed to mention, is the feeling/sensation of a 'magnetic' field
permeating my body/self.] <-insertion)
At the same time my understanding of reality has integrated this etheric vision
as my personal connection to the "Holographic Universe". Does anyone have
such an understanding?
------------
Gloria Lee:
FYI..there is a good book out.."The Holographic Universe" by Michael
Talbot..for anyone wanting a more detailed explanation of how reality
and also the human brain function as holograms. It sounds like you are
seeing the etheric realm, Ed. Thanks for pointing out how the objective
vs. subjective is just another version of the dualism. However, your
current subjective experience of seeing *ethericaly* is a good example
of the difficulty of sharing this knowledge more objectively with
others. Until they also gain that experience, how are they to believe
you??
------------
Ed:
Thanks for responding, Gloria, and for your suggestions and comments.
(please see insertion in original post above.)
:-)
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 06:11:38
From: Yu Zhang <yzhangATnospamcs.ubc.ca> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: fighting fear
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Hi Sherry,
You are right, step 3 is difficult. It needs practice just like you learn any
other new skills.
Do not try to get rid of negative thoughts, *ignore* them. In Taoism we call
these negative feelings 'devil'. If I try to fight these devils, I've already
failed.
If I ignore them, they lose their interests on me and go away, I win.
Just like a famous Tibetian saint told his student:
"If you feel good, OK, don't care, continue your training.
If you feel bad, OK, don't care, continue your training."
I agree with you, somebody wants to hurt somebody else because of various
reasons. A person should know human being's dark side as much as he
know human being's light side. All we can do is to try to stimulate other
persons' light side and avoid their dark side. When they show their dark side
to you(this is one kind of negative situation), you will feel fear(one kind of
negtive feeling); ignore your fear, don't follow your fear, relax on the holy
one which causes everything, good or bad. Holy one can destory a temple,
Holy one can also save a temple.
Yu
--
http://www.cs.ubc.ca/spider/yzhang/
"Who sees all beings in his own Self, and his own Self in
all beings, loses all fear." - Isa Upanishad
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 07:25:29 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: What God?
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Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> wrote:
>In a message dated 98-01-25 09:35:57 EST, anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com writes:
>
><< I cannot be without
> God, but God is always realized here and now. God is both the subject and the
> object. >>
>
>Harsha writes: Beautifully put by Anandajyoti. This is why God told Moses, "I
>AM THAT I AM." The Realization comes in Total Stillness. Even Jesus said, "Be
>Still and Know that I am God." He did not say "Hop around and imagine that I
>am God!" All of these sayings have mystical interpretations. They indicate the
>state of Being, Pure and Eternal Consciousness which is Complete and Always at
>Rest in its own Nature.
>
A small point: it wasn't Jesus who said, "Be still and know that I am God."
That comes from the 46th Psalm, ascribed to King David.
Jesus said things more along the lines of "In that day you will know that I
am in my Father, and He in me, and I in you."
That is reported in the Gospel of John, the most gnostic of the gospels in
the New Testament and the favorite of mystics. It's the one that starts:
"In the beginning was the Word [Logos], and the Word was with God, and the
Word was God."
Love,
Ann
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 08:14:21 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: What God?
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>anandajyoti wrote:
>>
>> FRANCES G GRISSOM wrote:
>>
>> > God is in all of us.
>>
>> Anandajyoti> I find two thoughts or ideas somewhat mixed up.
>> Yes God is all of us. It depends on what are we trying to know, or think
>>of God
>> in the plane of duality. If my consciousness has the experience only of the
>> dualistic
>> categories of thought, then I would consider that God is something apart
>>from
>> me.
>> For this type of understanding or experience , as long there is an object of
>> devotion, or prayer, it implies the existence of a subject. In which
>>case no
>> one is God, and we can safely say God is in us .
>>Frances wrote I think:
>> > YOU CAN NOT BE A GOD.you can not be everywhere and see everything at
>>one time.
>> > You do not know everything and you are not perfect(no matter how many
>>times
>> > youu try to be).
>>
>> Anandajyoti> When Jesus said " I and my Father are one" he implied the
>>non dual,
>> non local field of Consciousness. So this is true that from this
>>understanding
>> /experience, that each one of us are omnipotent and omnipresent.
>> In this non dual non local field , there are no two. The subject ,
>>object have
>> become one. That is a state of consciousness and remembrance. of the
>>experience
>> of BEING.
>
>Gloria here:
>This is certainly the distinction and if this isn't realized then one is
>not self realized and God is a thought or belief or memory of something
>that is potential but it certainly is not manifest. So, in this place of
>experience Don express's his feelings of truth. However, the potential
>is within each soul to receive his/her inheritance provided God is made
>first in life in all things. In this process of realizing God, one
>becomes absorbed into him/her and in that... loses ego/shadow/self. This
>then is the union and in this state God is manifest according to his
>will and purpose through the vehicle which is an extention of his
>purpose.
AMF
This sounds like a very high state, but not the same thing as union
(nirvikalpa samadhi). If God is manifest, that is not union. If God is
manifest through a vehicle, that is not union. As Anandajyoti said, the
state of union is a "non dual non local field." This is the unmanifest.
>Gloria: So if God has purpose for the soul to be omnipotent or perform
>miracles, etc, then it is manifest, but remember this is not an act of
>the mind but pure Father/Mother consciousness.
AMF
Again, if it is manifest, this is not union.
>>Anandajyoti> There is no moment when the SELF as Consciousness does not
>>exist, nor can the
>> subject/seer remain apart from Consciousness. This Non local Non Dual
>> Consciousness is Eternal and is only BEING.
>> AS an example: When people see visions, they don't see themselves. Does
>>that
>> mean the seer would deny his own existence, because the seer cannot see
>> himself/herself as the vision is seen?
>> So the true vision does not mean seeing but BE-ING.
>
>GG
>Eactly, one can not experience any awareness without being it, so that
>in entering the stream of Divine Will we experience all that God is
>manifesting in the moment.
AMF
but that is not union.
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:11:03 -0600 (CST)
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
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Subject: Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #82
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help
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 10:29:31 -0500 (EST)
From: Daniel James Giszczak <danjgATnospamengin.umich.edu>
To: Gloria Lee <samyanaATnospamhotmail.com>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Summary in regards to bi-polar
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> is a manic phase may end soon all by itself.. without any drugs or
> mental health professional who has no clue about kundalini could
Thanks a lot for all your help Gloria(s) (and freda).
I was off visiting an old friend and couldn't write.
I'll write more later.
Dan
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 11:49:55 -0500
From: Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
To: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: What God?
Message-ID: <34CE1033.66D368B0ATnospambryant.edu>
Ann Morrison Fisher wrote:
> Harsha1MTM <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> wrote:
>
> >In a message dated 98-01-25 09:35:57 EST, anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com writes:
> >
> ><< I cannot be without
> > God, but God is always realized here and now. God is both the subject and the
> > object. >>
> >
> >Harsha writes: Beautifully put by Anandajyoti. This is why God told Moses, "I
> >AM THAT I AM." The Realization comes in Total Stillness. Even Jesus said, "Be
> >Still and Know that I am God." He did not say "Hop around and imagine that I
> >am God!" All of these sayings have mystical interpretations. They indicate the
> >state of Being, Pure and Eternal Consciousness which is Complete and Always at
> >Rest in its own Nature.
> >
> Ann points out: A small point: it wasn't Jesus who said, "Be still and know that
> I am God."
> That comes from the 46th Psalm, ascribed to King David.
>
> Jesus said things more along the lines of "In that day you will know that I
> am in my Father, and He in me, and I in you."
>
> That is reported in the Gospel of John, the most gnostic of the gospels in
> the New Testament and the favorite of mystics. It's the one that starts:
> "In the beginning was the Word [Logos], and the Word was with God, and the
> Word was God."
>
> Love,
> Ann
Harsha writes: Thanks Ann. I am not a bibilical scholar and I apprceiate your
correction. Best wishes.
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:03:19 -0500
From: Harsh Luthar <hlutharATnospambryant.edu>
To: Ed Arrons <eeaATnospamaug.com>
CC: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com, anandajyoti <anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com>,
FRANCES G GRISSOM <SMARTDOLPHINATnospamprodigy.net>,
Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com,
heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com
Subject: Re: Holographic connection
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Ed Arrons wrote:
> Objective and subjective views of reality have found frequent expression on the
> list. There has been no mention (to my recollection) of a third view that is
> not one or the other -yet is both. The concept of “Oneness”, unity with
> Supreme Consciousness, and the like, seems to require such a view, since being
> objective (or subjective) by itself is only partial and dualistic.
>
> Harsha writes: Some say that Reality is Subjective, some say it is Objective and
> some say it is both Objective and Subjective and some say it is neither. Some say
> the the Final State is that of Pure Existence, some say it is Only Pure
> Non-Existence and some say It is beyond both Existence and Non-Existence. No
> matter, how clever the terminology and how subtle the expression of the
> experience of the Self, it misses the mark. It is because the Self has no point
> of Reference in experience being *It Self* the very Foundation on which All
> experience appears to take place..
Harsha
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 12:22:09 EST
From: RadiantTch <RadiantTchATnospamaol.com>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Sharing my experience with "Titanic" Ego/God/Goddess/Whole
Message-ID: <515bd201.34ce17c3ATnospamaol.com>
Dear list folk,
Living the paradox........Divine perfection & BEingness INCLUDING human focus
where time and space are experienced.........For myself, I've discovered that
EGO is a necessary part of my existence as a human being. Without my ego, and
all its wants, wishes and dreams, I believe I'd do no growing or expanding as
a human, even though my higher dimensional selves all the way "up" to
God/Goddess knows all, and IS all. Even the higher self with God/Goddess
itself expands through experience, IMO. For me, the trick has been to let ego
have a voice and acknowledgement, but not CONTROL over all other "parts" &
voices & feelings of me - to transform ego into a cooperative aspect of the
whole being, not necessarily the leader, but even that is sometimes
appropriate.
I've learned a lot through my experience with "Titanic," and would like to
share it, BUT, sharing it involves a sort of telling of the movie. So DON'T
read if you want to see the movie and be surprised! Please scroll down if you
choose to read.
I'll try to be as brief as possible, and I hope the meaning isn't lost because
of it, but here goes:
Heroine - name of ROSE!!!!! (a nickname of mine - very meaningful personally
long before the movie) Also, she's no little petite thing; quite meaty, in
fact, and STILL beautiful and delicate and feminine! (speaks to my own body
image)
Doesn't know how to break free from constraints of her societal and familial
views/rules - role is to be subservient, act like someone she is NOT to
maintain appearance and riches of the family (which do not serve self in the
heart and feeling department - gowns and baubles mean nothing when you feel
empty and personalityless inside)
I identify with her very strongly
Jack - (to me, he is the God figure)
Since he grew up poor, he learned early on to trust his instincts and follow
them, trusting that he would be taken care of (which worked out and further
strengthened his faith throughout his life)
True to himself with no embarrassment; confidence, strength, fortitude, and
JOY
Cal (the fiance') - He is the embodiment of what I grew up to believe God (and
men) were - if you are female and surrender to him/them, you are snared,
entrapped, expected to serve without regard to self, expected to be somebody
you are not in order to please others (robot-like) - and in exchange, the
female is housed, clothed, & bejeweled, but with no attention to her mind, her
heart, her individuality
Rose, seeing no way out, chose to gradually form a trust in Jack (and his
confidence, strength, faith, and joy) - he being the only support she felt she
had for her individuality, she grabbed hold of him & trusted enough to follow,
forming that strength, confidence, trust, & joy within herself along the way
Throughout the whole sinking of the ship, Rose has her newfound strength,
faith, and confidence within herself, and also Jack to lead the way, each
supporting the other
When the final sinking occurs, she is extremely scared, but remains trustful
in Jack's instructions and faith, and hangs onto it and him
When Jack dies at the end, Rose keeps him and all his qualities in her heart
and body to carry her through the rest of her life, break away from her
societal and familial programming, live life according to Rose and HER
needs/desires (integrating them with others along the way), and returning to
Jack upon her death
Through the energy of the on-screen Jack, I awakened a new perception of God;
it felt like I JUST found Him inside of me (my inner male also), and at the
same time realized he'd been there the whole time, but I hadn't trusted Him
because of my previous perception of men/God
Like Rose, I keep him in my heart and body, and trust his guidance, wisdom,
confidence, and strength, even when I too am very scared. And at my own
physical death, I will also return "home" to Him (even though I never left!)
It's helpful for me now to have a personification of God inside me - his name
is Jack, and he talks to me, puts his finger over my lips when I am to remain
silent, and gestures to me, helping me put meanings to
things/people/situations.
I asked Him the other day, where is Goddess? I'm thrilled and happy to have
finally met God and received Him in my heart and soul (perception) at a deeper
level, but where is the counterpart? He said the Goddess part of me is the
one who is silent and focused, tunes into the inner voices and feelings, and
receives impressions to act on (sounds like Rose!). The Goddess energy
creates the impressions/inner voices/feelings almost, just by the act of
RECEIVING - that God cannot act without the receiving from Goddess, and in
that way, form a dance, become ONE, the totality, the BEingness.
As a human focus, where time and space do exist experientially, I am ALL, but
ALL can be broken down into facets and details, where I am sometimes the male,
and sometimes the female, each with their own seperate functions that work
together to form the whole (the whole being absolutely perfect and divine no
matter the facet reflections' feelings and actions, including anger, etc.,
creating the perfect outcome for soul's higher learning and growth) - Giving,
receiving, BEingness, & actingness, ever flowing and changing.
I'm like a diamond reflecting a myriad of facets that I see mirrored in other
people/places/situations - I am not only the seperate facets or aspects (those
are only teeny tiny parts of who I am), I am the WHOLE diamond. And I'm
learning to remember that in moments of crisis, where an aspect is reflecting
that seems dark and fearful. Very helpful in shining light on those little
dark, fearful reflections!
When I get the mirror image of those dark places, I try not to identify with
them, or live them (deny them, NO; acknowledge them, YES - that is different
than "living" them), knowing that they are not fully who I am, just there to
show me where I need to add light. Sometimes, I can go right "up" into the
totality of me, and see/know the big picture, which helps the aspect transform
into light. But sometimes, the aspect has a stronger "pull" on me, and I need
to express it (it must be an aspect that has been previously denied,
suppressed and really cries out to be heard) - rather than expressing it
directly to the other person involved, I do seperate anger/fear work first, to
let the steam out of the boiling kettle. THEN I can speak with the person
involved from a loving, gentle space, so that we can come to come to
understand one another.
Just wanted to share! :-)
Blessings,
Barbara Ellen
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 09:22:55 -0800 (PST)
From: Blythe <merlinATnospampnn.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: fighting fear
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At 06:11 AM 1/27/98, Yu wrote:
>When they show their dark side
>to you(this is one kind of negative situation), you will feel fear(one kind of
>negtive feeling); ignore your fear, don't follow your fear, relax on the holy
>one which causes everything, good or bad. Holy one can destory a temple,
>Holy one can also save a temple.
Once upon a time, back when I was a construction worker, the other woman on
the crew and I were hated by our crew boss. Our presence seemed to enrage
her. We tried shielding ourselves with Light. We tried prayer and calling on
*----*. We tried 'being good'.
Eventually we went to a friend to ask for suggestions . That person listened
to our stories, and said that everything we had been doing served to
strengthen our fear and our boss's anger. He told us to
consciously open our bellies and heart to pull in all the vituperation and
hate, raising it up our spines and out the top to offer it with all our love
to *-----*. Opening to the dark side of this woman, rather than trying to
protect ourselves and close it out, removed all power from what our crew
boss was hurling at us. We both wound up higher than kites, alight with
loving *----*, and riding on that energy. The more furious our crewboss
became at us, the more blissed out on *----* we were. Our crew boss never
stopped hating our presence in her life, but rather than continue to try to
make our lives miserable, she moved to a different crew.
Opening up to another's hatred was scarey at first. It is still very hard
for me to remember to do, especially if I am surprised by yuck. It surely
works though.
Blessings,
Blythe
Date: Tue, 27 Jan 1998 13:07:59 -0500
From: WaterFall <watrfallATnospamniagara.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Taking a Break
Message-ID: <34CE227F.5BBATnospamniagara.com>
Just a quick note to let everyone know that I'm going to be leaving the
list for awhile. I dropped in here about 2 years ago and was so
impressed with the quality of people on this list, that I never left:)
So take care everyone.... namaste
My health has really been screwed up in the last few months. I'm being
checked out for hypothyroidism... (throat chakra, again:) But it makes
me very dozey in mind and body.
it's been a pleasure...
Nancy Kar/Eckert
WaterFall in spirit
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