1998/01/25 11:22
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #79
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 79
Today's Topics: Re: What God? [ Ruth Trimble ]
re:throat chakra and sleep [ "Susan Carlson" ] Re: Farethewell [ Ann Morrison Fisher ]
throat chakra and sleep [ nkognito ] MERGING SPIRIT WITH MATTER [ RadiantTch ]
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 19:42:00 -1000 From: Ruth Trimble
To: FRANCES G GRISSOM cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
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Hi Francess: I am not sure to whom you are addressing this letter.. but it does not
look like anything for me... God is ME - God dwells within me as ME. I know this and do not need to prove it to you and your mind cannot prove it
either true or not true . Not only am I perfect but so are you in your imperfection... this I also know to be true. But only you can find out
this truth...and writing to me will not change a durn thing!
On Sat, 24 Jan 1998, FRANCES G GRISSOM wrote:
> Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 18:22:11 -1000
> From: FRANCES G GRISSOM > To: Ruth Trimble , kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
> Subject: Re: What God? >
> > God is in all of us. Atleast that is my thought---surely something mu st
> have created the universe(stars, moons, planets, and galaxies). I don't know > how, but there is no other explanation to how it was all formed. Everything
> you can think of always leads back to 1. 1 God that is. I don't know how he > came into existense, but it is the only answer.
> YOU CAN NOT BE A GOD.you can not be everywhere and see everything at one > time. You do not know everything and you are not perfect(no matter how many
> times youu try to be). > I have on ly adopted some ways from this so-called "New Age," such as
> listening to easy listening stuff, meditating(praying), and breathing > deeply, but it is all for God and to God.
> I partially agree with some of what Don speaks. >
>
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So, for the individual..there is no purpose or goal except to be a vehicle through which Source can amuse itself...[Satyam Nadeem]
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Date: Sat, 24 Jan 1998 22:10:37 PST From: "Susan Carlson"
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com Subject: re:throat chakra and sleep
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Paul wrote:
>There is a link between "k" symptoms and process of falling
asleep. >Does anybody follow what i'm saying.
Dear Paul,
In my early K awakening days, I slept a lot. During one period, when i
was receiving intense K from a shaktipat master, I would be overtaken by this irresistable urge to sleep at the darndest times for a month. It
wasnt quite narcolepsy but it was close.
On top of that, I would drool. Most embarrassing.
It wasnt until I read 'Kundalini:the Secret of Life' by Baba Muktananda
that he spoke of people sleeping quite a bit upon the arising of their k in the beginning that I realized I wasnt weird. :)
he writes: 'Often when Kundalini first becomes active, you feel
heavy-headed and sleepy. This is a result of the movement of prana, and it is a sure sign that Kundalini has been awakened...snip...In the form
of prana she penetrates all 720 nadis ( a channel through which lifeforce is circulated in the human body), consumes all the old
decaying fluids, then releases vital energy into them all. As the nadis become filled with prana (the vital force of the body and universe which
sustains life and is the power of animation), the body becomes rejuvenated from within. It becomes strong and firm, with all the
suppleness of a child.'
Blessings, Susan
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Susan,
You wrote:
>>It wasn't until I read 'Kundalini:the Secret of Life' by Baba Muktananda that he spoke of people sleeping quite a bit upon the arising of their k
in the beginning that I realized I wasnt weird. :)
>>he writes: 'Often when Kundalini first becomes active, you feel heavy-headed and sleepy. This is a result of the movement of prana, and
it is a sure sign that Kundalini has been awakened...snip...In the form of prana she penetrates all 720 nadis ( a channel through which
lifeforce is circulated in the human body), consumes all the old decaying fluids, then releases vital energy into them all.
Susan, thanks for this quote. The sleepy stage lasted in me for about six weeks. Although I was quite sure it was part and parcel of k, I've never seen an explanation of this until your post.
It's nice to know, even in retrospect, that this is a recognized stage of k awakening and not the first stage of a transition into a zombie. :-)
Sharon
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Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 01:56:27 -0600 From: Ann Morrison Fisher
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com Cc: Ruth Trimble
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Ruth Trimble wrote:
>Hi Kundalini list and friends: >I too must depart this special cybervillage and give you all a big hug for
>being so wonderful in a thousand ways....
I'll miss your posts, Ruth. Hope to see you back before too long.
Love, Ann
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 06:31:43 -0800 From: anandajyoti
To: FRANCES G GRISSOM CC: Ruth Trimble , kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
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FRANCES G GRISSOM wrote:
> God is in all of us.
Anandajyoti> I find two thoughts or ideas somewhat mixed up.
Yes God is all of us. It depends on what are we trying to know, or think of God in the plane of duality. If my consciousness has the experience only of the
dualistic categories of thought, then I would consider that God is something apart from
me. For this type of understanding or experience , as long there is an object of
devotion, or prayer, it implies the existence of a subject. In which case no one is God, and we can safely say God is in us .
> YOU CAN NOT BE A GOD.you can not be everywhere and see everything at one time.
> You do not know everything and you are not perfect(no matter how many times > youu try to be).
Anandajyoti> When Jesus said " I and my Father are one" he implied the non dual,
non local field of Consciousness. So this is true that from this understanding /experience, that each one of us are omnipotent and omnipresent.
In this non dual non local field , there are no two. The subject , object have become one. That is a state of consciousness and remembrance. of the experience
of BEING. There is no moment when the SELF as Consciousness does not exist, nor can the
subject/seer remain apart from Consciousness. This Non local Non Dual Consciousness is Eternal and is only BEING.
AS an example: When people see visions, they don't see themselves. Does that mean the seer would deny his own existence, because the seer cannot see
himself/herself as the vision is seen? So the true vision does not mean seeing but BE-ING. To be is to realize.
What is the difference between the objects I see and God? I cannot be without God, but God is always realized here and now. God is both the subject and the
object. What we see and understand in the field of duality, the reality of this relative
world of ours, is the result of successive phases of Consciousness. Consciousness Itself does not vary, but its manifestation does, just like the
phases of the Moon, to give an example.
Anandajyoti http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/6782
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 09:57:09 -0500 From: nkognito
To: Subject: Re: God
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Hi Ruth,
Ruth said to Frances:
>I am not sure to whom you are addressing this letter.. but it does not look like anything for me... God is ME - God dwells within me as ME. I
know this and do not need to prove it to you and your mind cannot prove it either true or not true . Not only am I perfect but so are you in your
imperfection... this I also know to be true. But only you can find out this truth...and writing to me will not change a durn thing! >
Sherry replies:
While I have never thought that I am perfect, I do earnestly reach for
that state. I don't consider myself that far advanced in my Spiritual beingness yet. I do sometimes grieve over my past mistakes. I suppose
this keeps me humble in my current state of imperfection. The great "I AM" is within me and I believe helping me to achieve the spiritual goals that
my soul needs to achieve. Sometimes when I am weary, I feel like giving up the ghosts. "Lord come and get me, I'm tired and I want to come home."
I agree that God does dwell within us. And as one of friends so
appropriately described to me: "God sees through my eyes, feels through my fingers and loves through my heart. " He is a real sage, and always seems
to have the right words to say for encouragement when I am feeling discouraged with my spiritual progress.
Love, Light, & Laughter,
Sherry Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 09:57:07 -0500
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Hi Paul, Susan & Sharon,
When I first started meditating, I would always fall asleep at bedtime before finishing meditating. I sure slept good though. : ) The other
funny thing, I would go to work and also fall into "involuntary" states of meditation. That is to say, I did not make a conscious effort to do the
meditation exercises and prepare myself. For example: I would be typing stuff into the computer and would wake up 30 to 45 minutes later and not
have clue as to whether or not I had actually done any work. I would have to go back and check all my work to see if I really did do it. Most of the
time I had done it, but sometimes I had not. It was like my brain went on auto-pilot while I was working.
And a couple of other physical "symptoms" I notices that I thought were
rather funny, My face had this tickling sensation that felt like I had hair growing on my face. I would go look in the mirror several times a day just
to see if I was. : )
And there were many times while I was at work doing paper work, I could have sworn there was "something", that felt like (at least to my body)
something was hopping in and out of me. I thought I doing out of body travel. Either that or I had a spirit following me around. It got really
silly a couple of times, like a very loving had touching my waist while I was filing my papers in a drawer, or tapping me on the elbow to get my
attention.
I thought it was just my imagination at first. Or perhaps like a muscle spasm. I even asked some of the people in my spiritual group if they were
practicing out of body traveling, because the subject had come up and some of the members were working on it. I finally said: "look, I don't mind if
you come to visit me, but at least let me know you are coming so I won't be afraid and I will be able to say hello and talk to you." But no one in
the group admitted to having come for a visit, in fact a couple of them were experiencing the same phenomena.
Anyway, I was sitting at my desk one day and this thing is jumping in and
out of me and then it starts tapping me on the elbow. I would go to other rooms in the building to get away from it, but it just kept on with that
annoying tapping on my elbow so I thought I would go outside and have a cigarette, it just kept tapping and finally I covered up my elbow to stop
the incessant tapping and it started tapping on my hand. Talk about a freaky experience. I wasn't scared, it just was strange having this thing
follow me around everywhere. I had no idea what it wanted or what I was suppose to do with it.
Sorry, got off track here. Anyway, falling asleep at inappropriate times
was rather funny, I was just glad I wasn't driving my car down the road at the time. (ggg) : )
Love, Light & Laughter,
Sherry
Date: Sun, 25 Jan 1998 12:24:58 EST
From: RadiantTch To: Kundalini-lATnospamEXECPC.COM
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This forward may be off-topic, but fits what I was talking about during last
week, for those who are interested.......Blessings of Loving Light, Barbara Ellen
MESSAGES FROM ARCHANGEL MICHAEL * LM-149 January 22, 1998
MERGING SPIRIT WITH MATTER Beloved masters, I bring you greetings and glad tidings from the higher
realms to assist you in these stressful times of transition and change. Make no mistake, we are very aware of what each of you is experiencing and
the uncertainty you feel as your reality shifts and changes. Many of you are wondering why there is no new forthcoming information, why everything I
transmit, as well as other Beings of Light, seems to be a review of what has already been given. The reason is this, you are not ready, beloveds.
It is imperative that you make use of and integrate what has been given until it becomes a natural part of your reality. There is much knowledge
and new awareness floating in the ethers, but you must grasp it and claim it as your own before you can move to the next level. You must live it and
personify it. You, as well as humanity-at-large, and the Earth are on the verge of
making a leap into the next level of evolution, or initiation. You have integrated and incorporated much energy of a higher frequency and knowledge
into your mental, emotional and etheric bodies, and for many of you the status quo no longer exists. We have told you that your year 1998 will be
a bridge to the New Age and this is true. But for the time being you are in what might be termed a holding pattern; a null zone of Spirit, or a time
for inward focus and assimilation rather than outward momentum and radical change. Each of you is at a different stage along the path, and so if you
look around you will see others to emulate, or those who can give you insight as to what is taking place. The expansion of consciousness is
different for each soul, as each has their own divine blueprint and mission, or integral part of the master plan to accomplish. You may feel
joyous and in the flow and all seems to be in order today, and yet your perception changes radically tomorrow for your consciousness is ever
expanding into higher awareness. Just as you, individually, move forward to the next level when your spirit
self makes the determination that you are ready, so it is on a mass level. You are in the midst of an intense merger of Light with the darkness on
Earth, and of Spirit with matter. Please do not put a negative label on the term darkness, for it does not mean evil, it only means those portions
of the Earth and the souls that are existing without the Light and love of Spirit. Darkness cannot survive in the Light and humanity cannot survive
or move forward without accepting the gift of love that is being offered. Perfection is not the issue or even the goal at this time, beloved ones.
You have the mistaken idea that duality and polarity on the material plane are something evil, or to be denied and overcome. It is not polarity or
duality that is holding you back, it is imbalance. You accepted the assignment and where given the opportunity to experience duality.
Polarity, or opposite forces, is a part of that process. You came into bodily form balanced and harmonious in your masculine and feminine natures
and in the mental and emotional bodies. It was a beautiful melding of Spirit with matter, which is the state you are seeking to recapture and
reclaim.
We tell you over and over again, that you are here on Earth to enjoy being in the physical form and to enjoy the abundance and wonder of Creation.
But it is to be in balance and harmony in all facets of expression. That is why the ascension process is called the narrow path, or the middle path.
You cannot ignore any of the components, or any facet of physical expression. You ignore or abuse your body and it begins to break down and
atrophy. If you ignore your mind, you remain ignorant, or begin to stagnate and lose interest in life. If you ignore your emotional needs,
you begin to feel unloved and lonely. Connecting with your Higher Self and Spirit allows you to tap into the divine flow of primal cosmic life
substance. This is the energy you used to build your first Spirit/ physical form and it is the energy which will help you transform and
reclaim that harmony of Self. Many of you are feeling an irresistible urge to step out into the public arena, to begin to flex your spiritual
muscles, and yet feel you are being held back. Your Higher Self knows the proper and appropriate time for you to take that giant step out into the
unknown. It may be that you have not laid enough ground work, or gained the level of knowledge or expertise that you will need to be effective or
successful. Possibly ( and this is often the case), the path is being prepared by your guides, teachers and angelic helpers. They will smooth
the way or, "prepare a place for you." After you establish your vision and make your commitment and claim victory, it is important that you allow
Spirit to take over and bring your dreams to fruition at the proper and appropriate time. Waiting is not easy in the physical, and especially if
the ego is in control. Ego thrives on drama, whether positive or negative. You are all feeling the uncertainty that comes with a dimensional shift.
You are learning to exist in shifting energy patterns, in time-compression, or a feeling that time is speeding up and out of control. Ask for and take
advantage of time-expansion. This will give you a sense of slowing down and moving gently and gracefully through your days and nights. Staying in
the "event of the now" will assist you in that endeavor, for you will be focused on the moment. Your mind will not be racing forward or spending
needless time going over the past. Your energy will be used to create your desires of the moment and you will be much more effective. Maintain an
inner focus of serenity and self-control, rather than an outward focus of being controlled by events and the emotions of others.
In the past, we have suggested that you relinquish all the material possessions which are hindering your spiritual growth, which possess you by
way of time spent, maintenance or expense. Now, it is time to relinquish the needless activities in your life that are keeping you from coming into
harmony with Spirit. What you call television is one of the greatest robbers of time ever invented. It is habit-forming and insidious as a
tool of mind control. It takes away, or dulls your senses so that you have no desire or cannot hear that small inner voice of Spirit that is
attempting to make contact. The word "RECREATION" - examine it closely - re-creation of what? How do you spend your leisure time? In needless games
that numb the mind and senses, and rob the body of physical activity. Or in reading material that reinforces your negative, fear-based picture of
reality, or in activities which bring you only frustration instead of satisfaction?
It is time to take a spiritual inventory of how you are spending the gift of life on Earth. You have an allotted time on Earth (determined by your
Higher Self), and a specific mission to accomplish. You were blessed and privileged to be allowed to incarnate on Earth during this most important
time. Each soul who abdicates their mission adds to the burden of those Light workers who are bravely anchoring the Light. Those who are blazing
forward on the path, smoothing the way for others to follow. Oh, you will not fail, my friends, you will eventually listen and come
into harmony with Spirit, that is your ultimate destination. But, when, and after how much suffering? That is your choice under the laws of free
will. It is said that "time waits for no one," and we add, the evolution of humankind and the Earth will wait for no one. Are you being left
behind?
It is important that you understand that all is sifting and changing rapidly, at every level of creation. You are being asked to stay fluid and
flexible, even to hold off in making major changes until you receive strong signals both within and without as to what is appropriate. In other words,
you may get an internal nudging or message and it may feel appropriate within your heart center. But during this time of acceleration, before you
take action, I suggest that you ask for physical validation as to the appropriateness of the action you are contemplating. Clear signals will be
given, but even these, at times, will be subject to change. We know this is confusing and frustrating for you, but please be aware that you are
taking leaps in years and decades, rather than minutes and days. This all has to do with the shifting dimensional changes and the fluidity
of time. Even from our vantage point, a particular action or event time-line may seem appropriate, only to be nullified by unanticipated
events. From our prospective, we view and gauge events by the probable future that has the greatest potential or carries the strongest energy
force field, but now, changes are occurring too rapidly for this to be accurate. That is why it is impossible to predict the future, and why we
tell you to place no credence on those who make predictions. We are partners in this great adventure, and we are all forging ahead into
uncharted territory. We are at a co-creative expansion level never before attempted or attained, my brave ones, and you are right in the middle of
it. It can be an exciting, exhilarating time of great joy and wondrous accomplishment if you will just "stay tuned" to your inner guidance and
focused on the moment. Allow your reality to shift and grow, to expand and change direction when needed, thereby taking advantage of every opportunity
that Spirit brings your way. We also ask you to become more attuned and aware of the cycles of the
seasons, the Equinoxes, Solstices and the phases of the Moon. We have asked you to meditate and radiate energy down through and around the Earth
during the time of the Full Moon. We now ask you to join together at these powerful times, to unify in a common purpose, that of lifting the
consciousness of the Earth and humanity. These times are chosen to increase the influx of cosmic energy upon the Earth and all its
inhabitants. As more of you allow yourselves to become the receptors and transformers for this refined energy with pure love and unselfish intent,
the dynamic power of this energy will grow exponentially. Envision thousands, no millions, from every country, race, creed and color coming
together at these designated times with a common purpose in mind and heart: Healing the Earth and reclaiming the divine birthright for all who reside
on her. Become aware of the power of numbers, as well. With the invention of your
digital clocks, it is now possible for your guides and teachers to use this as a method of validating or signaling you that they are with you, or to
let you know that you are moving in harmony with Spirit. Also watch what you call your car license plates, as this will also amaze and amuse you as
a certain series of numbers is brought into your awareness in a way that is beyond coincidence. I have nudged this messenger to make this information
available to you. We will use any means available to let you know that we are with you, helping you to move forward in the right direction.
It is critical, there is an urgency and of the utmost importance during
this phase that is being initiated, that the knowledge you all take for granted is circulated to the masses, from the lowest to the highest. It is
time for the next phase of awakening to begin and on a grand scale. Not the long, slow awakening process that most of you have experienced over the
last twenty or twenty-five years. It must, and will be, a dynamic, jolting, attention-getting sensation, designed to jar humanity out of its
lethargy. To make as many as possible stop and reevaluate their old parameters, old ways of thinking and being, and know that something is
afoot. Something unprecedented is happening and it is time to listen, learn and take action. Your loving, soothing, comforting presence and
wisdom will be needed and sought as never before. More facets of your project Starseed Earth Mission group will be made known
to you. More parts of the puzzle will begin to fall into place as you begin to build a dynamic, powerful, energetic work force with all the
knowledge and experience needed to fulfill the Earth's and your divine destiny. You have sent out the call on the waves of loving vibrational
energy and you are about to be reconnected with those parts of yourself that you feared were lost to you forever. This is just the beginning of
the "Welcome Home" process, dear ones, there is much more to come. Know that we are as close to you as your heartbeat, and as real as the air
you breathe. We salute you for your courage and commend you for your steadfastness. I, Lord Michael, surround you in love and protection,
always.
Channeled by Ronna Herman *STAR*QUEST* 6005 Clear Creek Drive, Reno, Nv. 89502
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