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kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #72


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 72

Today's Topics:
  fighting fear [ nkognito <nkognitoATnospamtcon.net> ]
  Unidentified subject! [ Sarah Deleporte <sdelepteATnospamamnh.org> ]
  Anne [ Ray Morel <r.morelATnospamsympatico.ca> ]
  Re: Meditations.... [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
  Re: EAR RINGING POLL [ M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net> ]
  Re: Ok i'm a chicken.... [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
  Re: Broadcast [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
  ear rining poll-sleep [ SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com> ]
  Ear ringing [ Solar Lion <gtaATnospamcwnet.com> ]
  Re: EAR RINGING POLL [ SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com> ]
  Ear ringing [ Solar Lion <gtaATnospamcwnet.com> ]
  Re: Dilbert [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
  Re: meditations [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
  Ear Ringing [ nkognito <nkognitoATnospamtcon.net> ]
  Re: EAR RINGING POLL [ jaxx <jaxxATnospamihug.co.nz> ]
  Re: Ear ringing [ M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net> ]
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 15:52:48 -0500
From: nkognito <nkognitoATnospamtcon.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: fighting fear
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Dear Mystress,

Mystress quotes (with a few snips here & there)
>Did you read Sherry's story & the young man who ended up in the mental
hospital?>

.>Nothing to fear, but fear itself. These two are folks that let their fear
run away with them. Fear creates. Focus on Love and trust. When fear gets
out of control, it is because we are not choosing faith. Give the fear up
to Goddess, to be reshaped into beauty.>

Since you have not walked in my shoes Mystress, I don't think you have a
clue of what I was going through. And yes, I could well have been in a
mental institution myself had it not been the fact that it would have put a
great financial hardship on my family if I was out of work for a long
period of time. So I chose to go to work, continue with family
responsibilities, and chose everyday living in order to keep my family
together. At any rate. I did not CHOOSE to be in fear. It chose me.
Ever heard of shamanism. Well I will tell you myself that it was like
fighting demons. I didn't want it, didn't ask for it, but I got it anyway.

I went into meditation to bring peace, love and joy into my life and get
closer to God. Not to fight with the darkness. You have no idea what
courage it took for me to not commit suicide in order to escape that fear.
 But I can tell you, that I knew if I did not fight it, it would have
consumed me.

You make it sound as if it is so simple. It was not that simple for me at
that particular time in my life. Everytime I felt I was getting closer to
God, the more I felt this pull in the opposite direction. Like being in a
dark hole trying to climb out while something has your ankles and is trying
to pull you in deeper. (sounds like an X-file episode doesn't it).
Anyway, I certainly did not enjoy being in this state of mind. And being
as mentally unstable as I was at the time, the thought never crossed my
mind that all I had to do was surrender to God. I was too busy fighting
for my life. It wasn't like I could say: "Gee, God I don't think I want
to deal with right now, could you just put this on hold for a little while
until I'm feeling better."

Now in retrospect several months after the fact, I can see that truth of
surrendering to the will of God. But it took this battle in order for me
to see, know and understand this truth. Perhaps other people have to find
out the hard way, just as I did. I was choosing faith. I just had to take
the long way home. In my case, I had to face the darkness in order to see
the light. Just like when you look at the heavens at night and see the
moon and stars above.

Love and Light,
Sherry
 
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 16:05:03 -0500 (EST)
From: Sarah Deleporte <sdelepteATnospamamnh.org>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Unidentified subject!
Message-Id: <199801212105.QAA14560ATnospamscience.amnh.org>
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Hello all, my name is Sarah and I'm new to the list. I have only been to 2
kundalini yoga classes in my life, but my mom & dad are into it, and my
uncle is a kundalini teacher out on Cape Cod, and has undergone a radical
spiritual change in his life over the last 10 years. I would like to be as
happy as he is someday!!

Anyways, I'm writing about a comment I received regarding pot smoking. Who
was it that wrote that she/he smokes it every day to help with mood swings?
I am interested to hear more about that. I smoke, too, and am dealing with
some depression "issues". St. John's Wort and THC help me to stave off
terrible bouts of anger and sadness that, according to my mom, I've been
having my whole life. But I feel a tremendous amount of guilt for this -
smoking - and I don't really know why. I don't experience any side effects;
I'm more debilitated by depression that ensues if I don't smoke than by
smoking. ANyways, if I could get rid of this guilty feeling that I should
not be smoking, I think I could actually call myself a happy person. What
are your thoughts on that?
Sarah
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 16:29:45 -0800
From: Ray Morel <r.morelATnospamsympatico.ca>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Anne
Message-ID: <34C692F9.2DB8ATnospamsympatico.ca>

My apologies, I guess I have a hard time explaining alot of this stuff
right now. Actually up until I saw the faces, I didn't really have a
grasp of a higher source to guide me through this, as a matter of fact,
I had given up completely on wanting to see ANYTHING else. I was afraid
to close my eyes for fear of falling into another meditation by
accident!
I stayed up all night one night, not meditating, but praying. And
praying hard because at the time I thought I had unleashed some satanic
beign into my life and I begged fro guidance.
The next morning I felt very relaxed and peaceful, I spent the day
ignoring the urge to try the whole thing over, but was somehow guided
back into a meditation, one of feeling protected. And I am.
I actually got up the nerve today to look into the mirror and see the
faces. There is nothing frightening there. There is only a girl. She
has my eyes, but darker hair and curly. I can't tell you much else, she
only comes for a moment.
But anyway, the thing is that I do have an inner guidance. I think I am
exploring something that I was always meant to explore, but always
ignored the signs.
I am not trying to wake up anything on my own, I am simply going with
the flow now, seeing where it wiil take me.
By the way, you didn't really say anything wrong, so please don't feel
bad. You just have a protection instinct, which actually is very good.
I think I can admire that!
Take care,
Love Tammy
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 17:14:53 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Meditations....
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Tammy (Ray Morel <r.morelATnospamsympatico.ca>) wrote:

>Just popping in to say that all is going well, and despite what Ann
>says, I know I am not daydreaming, and I am not afraid. I am learning
>more everyday, and even thoughat the beginning I did spook myself...the
>mirror thing was a complete surprise, some instinct led me to the mirror
>for some reason, and I think it was for a reason.
>I am trusting my instinct, and my teachers, which I do have by the way,
>and they are not nessesarily books or people, but they are there....

>I believe that i do have guidance and my guide (although I have not
>formally been introduced, it feels more like my instinct, the same thing
>that led me to the mirror) has in fact slowed me down and led me to
>places and people in here who help me....

>Someone is watching over me.

Wonderful!! I didn't hear any indication of that, and that's why I was
worried.

>I am not afraid to look at the faces in the mirror, I have an
>understanding of who they are now, and if they are just me, then I have
>nothing to be afraid of because I am not afraid of myself....

Good - it's always better to know yourself.

>I am not going to let anyone plant fear seeds,...

I apologize, Tammy.

>I will learn, just as you all have learned, by asking questions, and by
>following the path that my higher power leads me to.
>
Blessings,
Ann
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 17:13:22 -0800 (PST)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack)
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, samyanaATnospamhotmail.com
Subject: Re: EAR RINGING POLL
Message-Id: <199801220113.RAA20947ATnospammail.thegrid.net>
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At 07:50 PM 1/18/98 GMT, Jack wrote:>
>Since October I have received multiple impressions of a book. I feel
>it's the same book but it has a different binding or cover each time.
>since the book slamming I haven't received any impressions of the
>book.
>recently I have been getting quick flashes of different personalities,
>mostly children, all are crying and all want me to do something that I
>can't quite make out yet.
>Have no idea what any of this means, if anything.
>Jack

I am curious if Jack has had any further communication like this.

My ear ringing began the day before this post, 1/17/98 about noon and by
1/19/98 pm I told all the Powers that be that I was so miserable I would
kill myself if it did not stop...and I meant it.

I can now get it to stop most of the time. I have stopped all medication (I
was on a ton of supplements) and keep my head as still as possible. I feel
immobilized by this but prefer it to the pain, torture really, of a few days
ago.

I am on the edge here...everything seems to be leaving me. Another disaster
today has me nearly suicidal. I do not know where to turn next.

M
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 16:51:50
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Ok i'm a chicken....
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   Hiya:
   Not exactly an expert at the type of retreat you describe, but..
  I like sleep deprivation, it is something my body sometimes spontaneously
does, particularly when I am wrestling with a stubborn issue. I am
something of a control freak, obviously.. and lack of sleep dulls a
stubborn ego... breaks it up into disconnected fragments.
  Obviously breaking the ego into fragments could be pretty dangerous for
somebody who doesn't know how to live without one.. by listening instead to
spirit's guidance.

  I used to stay up for about 30 hours, every other weekend, just to see
what came up to be processed or learned, that had not been getting thru in
the normal state.
  The longest I ever stayed up continuously was 50 hours, most of it in
some kind of activity, some meditation, many rituals, all of it in sacred
space. My usually hyperactive thoughts finally slowed down so I could watch
them go by like solitary airplanes, pulling banners. I felt a stillness
that radiated from me, and was commented on by the other witches.. that was
after a huge dump of grief and fear that I had been holding in.
  I had made a decision, months previous, to be strong for other people
which had created a blockage I was scarcely aware of, till I started
feeling very haunted.
  My ego strength was wearing down, and my body knew I was in safe space,
surrounded by healers. It all spilled out about 2/3 of the way thru, at
night, healed by ritual. The host for the event was a good friend, a witch
and also a mortician, with a genuine gift, for healing grief. I buried my
grief and regrets, with a crystal, in his backyard. Blessed be.
  I would have slept then, but my slave had freaked to see me upset, which
had been no help at all to my situation, so patience with her insecurity
after, kept me up a while longer.. finally it was dawn, and I was so
frustrated with her, I went and cleaned the whole campsite/2 acre yard,
rescued everything from the torrential rainstorm that had happened after my
ritual, sorted the recycling, reassembled the remains of the feast tables
into breakfast, rescued the beltaine fires, and made coffee for 50. I slept
when I got home, late afternoon.
  50 hours was about 5 hours too long, I was getting pretty clumsy at the
end. Took about 3 days to recover fully.. but that was with only about 2
hours sleep, altogether: you will be getting much more than that, and you
won't be moving around as much.

  Studies have discovered that a body which sleeps 4 1/2 to 6 hours
actually becomes more alert. Seems wanting 8-10 hours is a leftover
survival mechanism to keep us out of trouble so we'd live longer. Yet, in
these days, they have connected longevity with less sleep.
  There is a book to teach you how to train your body to need less sleep,
it's called "The Sleep Management Plan", can't give more info, except it's
written by a woman.. still in an unpacked box.
  So, as for your energy, it will be skyrocketing.. because of the influx
of spirit, and the endorphins. Expect to clear some issues as the ego
breaks down, but you know that stuff already.
  Sounds great! Have fun!
  Blessings, Mystress.
  
At 13:05 21/01/98 -0600, Debora A. Orf wrote:
>my problem is....i'm wondering what sleep deprivation is going to do to me
>energy wise.
>
>so i thought 'Hey i'll ask the experts :)' what does prolonged meditation
>combined with sleep deprivation do? add in a strict diet too.
>add in one temple located in the smoky mountains too....
>
>
>take care!
>
>maitri,
>
>--janpa tsomo
>
>
>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:33:47
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Gene Kieffer <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com>
Cc: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com, heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com,
 kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, DonBBensonATnospamaol.com, keutzerATnospameecs.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: Broadcast
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At 16:49 20/01/98 -0500, Gene Kieffer wrote:
>At 08:52 PM 1/19/98, you wrote:
>>At 15:57 18/01/98 -0500, Gene Kieffer wrote:
>>>
>GENE HAD SAID TO GLORIS, IN PART:
>>
>><...> If somebody in Alaska is thinking negatively, can you and they
>>see the effects of these thoughts and how they hinder the evolution of the
>race?
>>
>MYSTRESS ANGELIQUE SERPENT RESPONDED:
>
>> I do not know all of what Goddess intends to the evolution of the human
>>race, so how can I say what will help or hinder?
>> Each path is individual. For some, an NDE is the key to awakening.. or
>>Alcoholics Anonymous. The internet itself, started out as part of the
>>american war machine.. but it is becoming a tool of peace, as borders grow
>>invisible.
>
>GENE'S RESPONSE:
>
> Is this Mystress Angelique Serpent speaking? If so, you do me
>a great honor.
  LOL! Thankyou...
I didn't anticipate your participation in this little
>dialogue I was having with Gloria.
  Well, you posted to the K.list, so what's yer surprise?

 <..> But if we do not know what the Goddess intends, why
>not give some thought to a scientific investigation of Kundalini?
>
  I have given plenty of thought to the subject, and I think it is of some
importance.

>MS. SERPENT SAYS:
>
>> I do know, that any plan that starts out by saying how someody else has
>>to change, is bound to fail.
>> Even Michael Jackson knows.. wanna change the world? Start with the man
>>in the mirror.
>>>
>
>GENE'S RESPONSE:
>
> My Dear Angelique, I do not recall starting out by saying how somebody
>else has to change. Perhaps you were referring to someone else?
  No, you are going in circles again, Gene, ..
  The opening of this thread, was you asking about how the world must
change, to survive the apocalypse you and Gopi amongst others, are
predicting. Your question. My answer.
  You are talking about how to change scientists, so they believe in
Kundalini. You are trying to change our minds, so that we support your
cause. You are contradicting yourself and losing credibility steadily, in
your efforts at conversion.
>
>

>
>MS. SERPENTS INTERJECTS:
>
>> Nonsense. E=MC2 came from Einstiens visionary experience of what it would
>>be like, to be a photon.
>>
>GENE'S REPLY:
>
> I am grateful once again to be informed of Einstein's visionary
>experience. Wish I knew what he was smoking on that particular
>visionary journey.

  Whew! Now you are making patronizing comments of a great visionary, in a
futile effort to prove your point. Einstien's visionary experiences are
common knowledge. He said, towards the end of his life, that he wished he
had spent more time studying the spiritual, as opposed to the scientific.

>MS. SERPENT SAYS,
>
>> No, it is made of love, and cannot be shattered by human fears.
>Here Angelique is referring to the structure of the Universe, i.e.,
>love.
>>
>GENE'S RESPONSE:
>
> I'll buy that! But I wonder, would Stephen Hawking, et al, buy
>it? <..> Is the
>structure of the Universe made of Love or is it made of neutrinos,
>dark matter, and such stuff? Please tell us!!!
>
  Sorry, you'll have to wait till the paper a friend and I are preparing
for the Nobel committee is finished..


>GENE'S RESPONSE:
>
> I have been in contact and correspondence with the top scientists at
>the Maharishi International University. It is in Fairfield, Iowa. Some
>years back, <..>
> At the time I was in touch with the TM people, they were not doing any
>research on Kundalini---just on TM meditation.

  So what? TM is causing kundalini awakening, and a perusal of the Natural
Law party's material proves that they are using K. energy thru yogic flying
to reduce crime rates and heal polluted areas. Remarkable stuff, get with
the program, Gene.. I am sure the Natural Law party would be happy to send
you the information.
  They understand, "Feed first, convert after", only this is the
information age, it is the head that is being fed, not the belly.


>MS. SERPENT SAYS:
>
>> If you believe that He is still guiding your hand, consider perhaps that
>>it was He who guided you here? So you may meet others, and discover that
>>Kundalini is bigger and more diverse than one man's vison could possibly
>>encompass, no matter how many well intentioned books he leaves behind. Each
>>awakened one, must find their own path.. we cannot follow the vision of
>>another. Your path has led you here, to these lists.
>
>GENE'S RESPONSE:
>
> Well spoken, Angelique. Somebody's hand certainly guided me here,
>and what I am most grateful for is the tremendous response I've received
>to my offer to send a packet of Kundalini reading material to anyone
>who leaves his/her mailing address (gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com). That
>alone--that terrific response--was far more than I ever expected,
>and it has made me very happy. It is very difficult for anyone to
>spend time reading postings on the Internet.
>

>>GENE'S RESPONSE:
>
> I understand much of what you teach. But are you referring
>to Dr. Carl Sagan when you say, "The other night I heard the voice
>of my deceased Mother . . but I don't believe in the afterlife?"
  No, I am referrring to the scientist friend, with whom I m writing the
paper. Nothing abstract, real world doings.. his K. was a hard nut to
crack, too.. but his Mom seems to be helping..
  
> He thought the memory of his mother calling him by name
>when she was alive was stored in his brain cells and that at certain
>times the cells would "pop" out the voice, just as though his mother
>were standing next to him.
  Yes, my friend has a similar odd explanation, but there have been other
odder events shaping his path.

> May I be so bold as to ask you for your help in trying to make
>the knowledge of Kundalini universally known?
>
>With all best wishes,
>gene
>>
  LOL! I do little else, my friend. From awakening scientists, to managing
the K.list.. to putting it out on the net, I am slave to Goddess Shakti,
doing my all toward mass consciousness shift. In the physical, and in the
etheric, from which all things come.
   Blessings, Mystress.

>
>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 20:38:22 EST
From: SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: ear rining poll-sleep
Message-ID: <a88a41ed.34c6a310ATnospamaol.com>

In a message dated 98-01-18 20:15:11 EST, you write:

> ate: Sun, 18 Jan 1998 20:14:46 EST
> To: ATnospamglobal.co.za
> In a message dated 98-01-18 16:46:38 EST, you write:
> >.... past years have been practicing allowing myself to enter sleep
> consciously from
> > waking state. point i'm interested in is that at some point during this
> > conscious "dissociation" into sleep just before actual clear dream
images
> > begin you get a gradual increase in intensity of that ear ringing or
> > sometimes a "hiss" if you carry onwards past this point at some stage
you
> > get sudden bursts
> ATnospam->->--
> I have actually had my ear ring so intensly and in successive bursts, that
I
> could only assume I was suppposed to wake up, since it woke me up. My
dream
> material at the time was such that it was probably just as well. I learned
> to
> trust this 'assistance' and learned something about how to avoid those
> astral
> projectors who were entering uninvited into my psyche. Linda
>
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:08:55 -0800
From: Solar Lion <gtaATnospamcwnet.com>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Ear ringing
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980121180851.00829100ATnospammailhost.cwnet.com>
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a number of accomplished mediums have said about the odors - the ear
ringing etc - (from their guides) - "why not just ask what they want - what
the message is "
- in what ever method you use to become more in tune with your inner self.

you might be surprised at the answer you get - from inner rather than outer.

Solar Lion (Bob)

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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:31:26 EST
From: SchrLL <SchrLLATnospamaol.com>
To: SANDYLRANATnospamaol.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: EAR RINGING POLL
Message-ID: <29266487.34c6af80ATnospamaol.com>

In a message dated 98-01-21 06:34:38 EST, you write:

>
> Linda,
>
> I woke up in August of 1978 and both my ears were ringing....they have not
> stopped since. Sometimes the pitch changes...but it is always there....
> would love to hear more about your theory.
>
> Each night just before I go to sleep....my body begins to vibrate...the
> noise gets louder in my head as the k raises up through my throat to my
head..
> .then .....I get a loud "pop" and I am asleep.....Has been happening for
> years...During this period as the k rises...I see people...places ....but
all
> unfamiliar to me....I have begun to call this period of the day my very own
> private movie theatre....I never know what I will see and hear....
>
> sandy
ATnospam->->--
Sandy,
Oh, Yes... I am aware of the energy rising and the thing in the thrast.
Actually it feels like the back of my throat and sound like a click which I
can feel as well. Then it goes on up and I soar! The ear ringing seems to be
common to mny of us. I have made up what I call "Biolanguage" having to do
with it. WhenI port hte findings of the poll, I will elaborate. Meanwhile,
tke notes as to the ear ringing when where etc.
Love and Light, Linda
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 18:35:34 -0800
From: Solar Lion <gtaATnospamcwnet.com>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Ear ringing
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980121183531.00820cd0ATnospammailhost.cwnet.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

a number of accomplished mediums have said about the odors - the ear
ringing etc - (from their guides) - "why not just ask what they want - what
the message is "
- in what ever method you use to become more in tune with your inner self.

you might be surprised at the answer you get - from inner rather than outer.

Solar Lion (Bob)

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Gateway to Awareness ATnospam http://home.cwnet.com/gta/
Metaphysics - Guided Meditation - Energy Work
 ICQ uin: 2742596
 "Ye Old Metaphysical Book Shoppe"
Online source for Metaphysical Books
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Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:42:54 -0500
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Dilbert
Message-ID: <34C6B22E.3B6AATnospammail.snet.net>

mckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us wrote:

Quoting "Dilbert" comic strip:

> "A skeptic checks *all* the drawers."

But never simultaneously.
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 21:43:57 -0500
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: meditations
Message-ID: <34C6B26D.382ATnospammail.snet.net>

Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:

(quoting somebody else)

> There is only fear itself, to fear..

Let us put to rest this most absurd saying.
If we fear fear we only perpetuate it.
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 22:20:03 -0500
From: nkognito <nkognitoATnospamtcon.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Ear Ringing
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Hi to All,

I have the ear ringing too. But its not there all the time. It comes and
goes throughout the day. For some reason this also has a time table for
me. I have studied numerology for many year and when my ears ring I look
at the clock to see what time it is, and the numbers on the clock convert
to letters in numerology and that's just one of the ways spirit speaks to
me. I also have ear clicking noises so when my ears click, I look at the
clock too. For some reason the clicks are different when the air pressure
changes and its not the same kind of clicks you get when going up or down a
mountain side, its just a different kind of click. I don't know how else
to explain it.

Microwave ovens and a television warming up just makes me nuts. That sound
is at a frequency that just makes my eyes squint. It hurts.

The other thought that occurred to me was the radio waves bouncing half way
around the world, I wonder if my brain picks up on those signals and also I
live about 25 miles away from an airport and lots of planes pass over head
everyday. I wonder if I am picking up their radio signals. Actually, I am
trying to find a logical explanation for this buzzing in my ears.
Although, I know a couple of people who have great hearing loss and they
also talk about this constant ringing in the ears but I am not sure if its
the same kind of ringing or if it has the same cause and effect type
relationship.

And one more curiosity here, I am wondering if anyone else has ever felt
like they were picking up "subliminal messages" (for lack of a better term)
from the t.v. or radio? As if that message was directed there just for
your ears? Maybe I have an over active imagination. Just curious.

Love and Light,
Sherry
 
Date: Thu, 22 Jan 1998 16:31:03 +1300
From: jaxx <jaxxATnospamihug.co.nz>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: EAR RINGING POLL
Message-Id: <199801220331.QAA30528ATnospamcheech.ihug.co.nz>
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Dear M

>My ear ringing began the day before this post, 1/17/98 about noon and by
>1/19/98 pm I told all the Powers that be that I was so miserable I would
>kill myself if it did not stop...and I meant it.
>
>I can now get it to stop most of the time. I have stopped all medication (I
>was on a ton of supplements) and keep my head as still as possible. I feel
>immobilized by this but prefer it to the pain, torture really, of a few days
>ago.
>
>I am on the edge here...everything seems to be leaving me. Another disaster
>today has me nearly suicidal. I do not know where to turn next.
>
>M

I feel at a loss for words for you, yet feel a need to write...
At times like this <when reading a post> my ego/head usually comes up with
lots of 'wonderful' suggestions and advice. This time it is quiet..

Perhaps all I can say is that your words have had an impact on me.

I am reminded to words I have seen used around here a lot <usually from
Angelique - and ones I deeply believe in>...that spirit/the universe doesnt
provide anything an individual cant handle... Yet I find it hard to fit
this with your case... maybe so... maybe no...

You may feel you dont have the strength for things.. yet you had the
strength to face the 'Powers that be' and ask it to stop, and you had the
strength to write
That speaks volumes to me of what you have inside.

Anyway ... take care and my thoughts are with you..

...jacqueline
Date: Wed, 21 Jan 1998 19:42:43 -0800 (PST)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: Solar Lion <gtaATnospamcwnet.com>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Ear ringing
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At 06:08 PM 1/21/98 -0800, Solar Lion wrote:
>a number of accomplished mediums have said about the odors - the ear
>ringing etc - (from their guides) - "why not just ask what they want - what
>the message is "
>- in what ever method you use to become more in tune with your inner self.
>you might be surprised at the answer you get - from inner rather than outer.
>Solar Lion (Bob)

I have been "listening" for a few days now. The message so far is: keep
still, Keep quiet and keep the tv turned off. I haven't tested the computer
enough to
know if it's a problem too.

M

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