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kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #67


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 67

Today's Topics:
  Re: Broadcast [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistres ]
  Re: Channeling [ tgxxxATnospamjuno.com (tg langston) ]
  Re: physical in alignment with expan [ PEGLUMPKIN <PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com> ]
  Re: physical in alignment with expan [ RadiantTch <RadiantTchATnospamaol.com> ]
  Re: physical in alignment with expan [ RadiantTch <RadiantTchATnospamaol.com> ]
  Re: introduction [ sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack) ]
  Re: Rope. Water. Ghosts. [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ]
  Re: Unidentified subject! -Reply [ acarre <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> ]
  Re: ghosts and portals was rope, wat [ acarre <acarreATnospamconcentric.net> ]
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 20:52:42
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Gene Kieffer <gkiefferATnospamnetaxis.com>
Cc: lodpressATnospamintercomm.com, heartzenATnospamlistserv.servtech.com,
 kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Broadcast
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At 15:57 18/01/98 -0500, Gene Kieffer wrote:
> Dear Gloria,

<...> somebody in Alaska is thinking negatively, you and they can see the
>effects of these thoughts and how they hinder the evolution of the race.

  I do not know all of what Goddess intends to the evolution of the human
race, so how can I say what will help or hinder?
  Each path is individual. For some, an NDE is the key to awakening.. or
Alcoholics Anonymous. The internet itself, started out as part of the
american war machine.. but it is becoming a tool of peace, as borders grow
invisible.
  I do know, that any plan that starts out by saying how someody else has
to change, is bound to fail.
   Even Michael Jackson knows.. wanna change the world? Start with the man
in the mirror.
>
> So you see, scientists draw very, very heavily upon their intuition,
>just the same as you do. The only difference is that they always withhold
>their judgment until all the data are in. <...> The scientific
>data are not yet final.
  Tilt.. contradictory statements.. Gene's not making sense again..
  In a limitless universe, all the data never ever will come in.
  It can't.. our finite brains haven't room enough.
  Most scientists are bright enough to admit, the more they learn, the more
there is they'll never know.
   They are always working with guesses suppositions and half-truths.
     Wait all you like.. hope ya packed a lunch.

> Scientists do have their dream, they have their visions, they probably
>believe as sincerely in God as anyone else does. But they cannot write
>scientific papers for professional journals about what they see in their
>dreams and experience on their excursions into the spiritual world.
>If they did, they would not be scientists. Blake was an exception.
  Nonsense. E=MC2 came from Einstiens visionary experience of what it would
be like, to be a photon.
>
> So, yes, I do understand that it's not such a good idea to have
>negative thoughts because these thoughts might shatter the spiritual world,
>and then where would we be? After all, the spiritual universe is not made
>of Jello, is it?
  No, it is made of love, and cannot be shattered by human fears.

> I also recall the many, many experiments conducted by Duke University,
>and others, even Princeton University, on psychic power, everyone trying
>to show how much power our thoughts have to influence events, even other
>people. As of this date, however, no experiments of this nature have
>proved conclusive.
  Yes, they have.
  There was an extensive study done recently, 1996? Proving that prayer
speeds healing. No matter what the faith, no matter if the patient and the
pray-er know each other beyond an ID number. No matter if the person knows
they are being prayed for.
  I believe it was done in New York. Perhaps someone on the list can
provide a reference.
  It matters not, tho, what proof is shown to those who choose to be blind.
If science wanted paranormal, crop circles would have done it. There is
plenty of crop circle research that is compeletly unexplainable.. but the
appearance of crop circles, has thus far most popularly been used to sell
candy.
  
> But yes, Gloria, I do understand what you are teaching us about the
>spiritual universe. I just don't see how it connects with scientific
>verification. If you or some of the other dreamers and experiencers
>could tell us how it works, it would be helpful, I think.
>
>With all best wishes,
>gene
>
  Guess what, Gene.. it works however you believe it does, but only for
you. For someone else, it might work completely differently. We all think
different thoughts..
  
  On the other hand, if you tire of being a one man band, why not hook up
with the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi? He has his own university in Indiana, which
has been doing heaps of this kind of research for years, and courting the
best scientific talents.. and is aggressively getting involved with
politics, with candidates running in every country in the world.
  Not only that, but the first Vedaland is opening soon near you, in Niagra
falls. Clever man, that Maharishi.. bring the mountain to mohammed..
Namaste. To get someone to listen, you must first capture their attention.
Bread and circuses. Everybody from Gene to the Salvation army know, feed
first, talk conversion later.
  Even me.. lead them by the penis, to open the heart.. and give them back
to Goddess.. or whatever their heart says it is, depending on who they
are.. God, pure energy, Love, Light.. Jesus.. except mebbie Moira.. :)
  
  They say, in the circles that I move, that the unkindest thing a
Master/Mystress can do to their slave, is to die on them. I suspect, that
if the Master is an awakened being capable of moving beyond death, the
attachment is even harder to break, because there is more hope that the
Master will return to provide more direction.
  Gene, my deepest sympathies for the death of your Master. He was a
charismatic visionary, and ahead of his time.
  Your devotion to his vision, is admirable.
  If you believe that He is still guiding your hand, consider perhaps that
it was He who guided you here? So you may meet others, and discover that
Kundalini is bigger and more diverse than one man's vison could possibly
encompass, no matter how many well intentioned books he leaves behind. Each
awakened one, must find their own path.. we cannot follow the vision of
another. Your path has led you here, to these lists.
  Thou art God, Gene.. get out from under the tall shadow of Gopi Krishna.
  Look to the sunlight streaming from your own heart. There are no shadows
there, no apocalypse to fear.
  The cup is half empty, or half full? Gopi's positive visions are
happening, will be happening, bigger and better than even he could have
foreseen. But we must focus on the beauty, to make it grow.
  For me, the equation about science and K. is simple.

  Scientist: I'll believe it when I see it..
  Goddess: That sounds like a request..? Here ya go! Zap!
  Scientist, a few months later: I've been getting all these really wierd
co-incidences lately, and the other night I heard the voice of my deceased
Mother.. but I don't believe in the afterlife.. ???
  
  Blessings, Mystress.
     
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 23:22:04 -0500
From: tgxxxATnospamjuno.com (tg langston)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Channeling
Message-ID: <19980119.232307.4462.12.tgxxxATnospamjuno.com>

Gene wrote:
<< If channeling serves the interests of Kundalini, then I'm all for it.
>>

Then I say we get a channeler in here to tell us how to scientifically
prove kundalini. Of course, not a new age one tho. Anybody? Anybody?

xxxtg

* Kundalini is real -- It's science that doesn't exist *

http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html <~~~~~~ on the web now!
Date: Mon, 19 Jan 1998 23:47:03 EST
From: PEGLUMPKIN <PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: physical in alignment with expanded consciousness
Message-ID: <452fa185.34c42c49ATnospamaol.com>

In a message dated 98-01-19 11:16:38 EST, you write:

<< I am aware that I am ALSO a physical human being which
 requires some focus on the details of life, rather than (or in addition to)
 the big picture, or expansiveness. >>

I like famous architect Mies van der Rohe's quote: "God is in the details."

Peg
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 00:53:57 EST
From: RadiantTch <RadiantTchATnospamaol.com>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: physical in alignment with expanded consciousness
Message-ID: <b2a1d016.34c43bf7ATnospamaol.com>

In a message dated 98-01-20 00:11:52 EST, PEGLUMPKIN writes:

<< I like famous architect Mies van der Rohe's quote: "God is in the details."
>>

Yep, you're right - I just wrote earlier this evening about my thoughts of me
possibly judging physical doingness, and needing to look at that, in order to
transform that judgement into acceptance. And you put it so much simpler!
LOL Continuing to allow the merging of Heaven and Earth, so-to-speak.

This pattern cycles through every so often, and it seems that I flap a little
off balance until finding that smooth air stream. But find it, I eventually
does! ;-)

Thanks,

Barbara Ellen
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 01:02:07 EST
From: RadiantTch <RadiantTchATnospamaol.com>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: physical in alignment with expanded consciousness
Message-ID: <7509e698.34c43de1ATnospamaol.com>

RadiantTch:
<snip><< I am wondering how those on the list
 >integrate these two ends of the paradox in a workable and comfortable form,
 >where both can be experienced at once......? >>snip>>

JaxxATnospamihug.co.nz:
I have had thoughts similar before... but it was back when I was first
becoming spiritually aware and wanted more experiences like that... Now I
feel more balanced <gosh and its feels nice to be here>... I'm no longer in
that space but a lot more focussed on where I'm going and what my purpose
here on earth is to do... (I have two small children so it helps being
grounded..)
Maybe thats the word I'm looking for... Grounded... how grounded are
you???<snip>

Radiant here again, in response:
Thank you for your kind reply. My question had to do with keeping my feet
firmly planted on the ground while my head towers way up above the clouds
metaphorically, not one or the other. I'm learnin'! :-)
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 04:01:07 GMT
From: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net (Jack)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Cc: nkognitoATnospamtcon.net
Subject: Re: introduction
Message-ID: <34c71e2e.31436473ATnospammailhost.worldnet.att.net>

At any rate after I started the meditation all kinds of weird things
started happen to me. I could not eat meat because it made me sick, I
had this craving for peanuts, wheat toast and orange juice. I lost 20
pounds (which that was good, I need to shead a few) I had such head
trembling and shaking that my husband thought I was coming down with
some kind of muscular disease. I had so much energy that I thought I
would explode, I had to rake leaves to get rid of all the energy and
get grounded. But had a really bad energy crash shortly after that
and I was weepy for months. I thought I was losing my mind. Between
the hallucinations and voices and some of the most horrible nightmares
I have ever had in my life.

Well on one especially bad night, dark night of the soul if you want
to call it that, I heard the voice of Mother Mary. She basically told
to believe with all my heart that God loved me and everything would be
alright. And she was right.

It was a very hard struggle for me. I could almost write a book
myself on all the unusual things that have happen in the last year or
so. Some of them you probably would not even believe. And I have
acquired some abilities in hightened awareness, precognitive
abilities, synchronicity or whatever you want to call it. And since I
have tried every way I can think of to get rid of this stuff and have
not been successful at it, I decided that it must be here to stay and
I might as well figure out how to focus and direct this energy in a
more loving, positive way.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Welcome to the list, Sherry.

 Most of us here have gone through similar experiences. Your
experience sounds like a word for word recital of my own experience.
In addition my hair turned gray overnight.

I wouldn't worry about not being believed, at least not here on this
list. Some of us have teachers, gurus or inner voices that guide us.
Mine is a real wisecracker, so much so I'm thinking about naming her
Loki as she won't tell me what her name is.

I accepted my heightened awareness almost immediately and I feel
almost comfortable with it now.

My wife has been really good about accepting what's going on. I know
that my shaking and spasm must really bother her and when they're
really bad I just go down to my recliner and sleep there so's not to
bother her. It's very helpfull to have an understanding partner.

Anyway, again, welcome. I'm sure you'll see that you came to the right
place.

Peace,

Jack
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 02:38:02 -0600
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Cc: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>,
 Barbara Millikan <millikanATnospampnn.com>, Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>,
 Susan Carlson <divine_goddessATnospamhotmail.com>,
 "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
Subject: Re: Rope. Water. Ghosts.
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Angelique et al:

I somehow missed reading one digest and didn't see this. Curious that I
just happened to send you that technique for clearing an area and sending
the vibrations up to the buddhic plane.

Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com> wrote:

> .. an uninvited guest.. they had just seen "Titanic".. the uninvited
>guest was an irish maid who followed them home from the theatre. She was
>knocked unconscious when a hatch cover fell on her head, and drowned when
>the ship sank. A ghost-toastie from the Titanic. I spoke to her and
>persuaded her into the light of my own heart.. shivered as she went out my
>crown....

Do you use this method with any ghost? Or just unthreatening ones?

> Protection from spirits is easy.. but toss 'em out, pass the buck....
>they just go bug someone else. Sending them Home instead is merciful.
>Wandering lost spirit, is not an enviable state to be in.

When you say "sending them Home," are you sending them into pralaya, out of
existence, to begin again in another life? Or do you just send them
upwards?
>
> Then we three sought more info on Titanic spooks.
> There are over 600 ghosts associated with that old wreck.. many who
>survived the sinking never recovered from the trauma, and so haunt it
>anyways.. some went there after, seeking loved ones they had lost and never
>stopped grieving.
> Attention to this film is bringing them out of the deeps and into the
>theatres. ...
> But I feel called to do a mass rescue. Send them Home.
> Goddess gave me the idea, I trust She'll give me the juice to do the
>deed. The Captain will help..
> Still, I have never done a rescue on anything like this scale before..
>mebbie no-one ever has.. the principle is the same... but your prayers,
>love and support for myself, and those I seek to help, are certainly
>appreciated.
> One ghost passing thru the doorway of my heart is a shiver, what do a few
>hundred feel like? Hmmm. I will be more carefully prepared, but still..
>Any alternative rescuing techniques anyone out there can offer, would be
>appreciated. I am getting some interesting info, myself.. constructing a
>panama canal sized light doorway, for the captain to sail the whole boat
>thru..? Hmmmm...

What I sent you is a drawing and instructions for constructing a Standing
Buddhic Column. You can put one up anywhere, of any size. They say it
will transmute and carry to the buddhic plane any vibrations that are ready
to be released. Includes smog, soil pollutants, the dead, anything.

Nuts - I'm getting a sinus problem behind one eye, and I won't be able to
stay at this bright computer terminal. So just some quick info now, and
I'll write more later.

I got this from Christann Hummel, who is part of a group working with devas
and clearing large areas. They also have other techniques and use some
physical gadgets, altho they say it's the pattern, the thought-form that's
important to the devas. I was in a workshop with her when we cleared a
subdivision.

> I find myself wondering, what would the planet feel like, if we cleansed
>all of the old battlefields, and all of the cemeteries and concentration
>camps of the lost souls that wander there?

They go into a city or other large area, and one day they'll visit natural
sites - a river, a park, a spring, etc. Contact the deva of the place,
explain what they're doing, offer the tools. Another day they'll go to
major buildings - same thing. Another day they go to battlegrounds and
sites of battles, etc. Here they went to the old Governor's Palace, where
it turns out there were battles. Also the Alamo and other places. They've
had some remarkable results.

So these are people who have the kind of experience you're asking about -
and some tools to offer. Christann's email address is chbabaATnospamaol.com. (She
travels a lot and I don't know how often she gets her mail.) Their office
phone is (760) 722-5555.

They have some material on Slim Spurling's web site at
http://www.earthtransitions.com. Christann used to work with him and he
developed some of the things they use, but I think her group is more or
less separate now. Look for them at that site under Environmental
Clearinghouse. But everything on that site is interesting. Even case
reports.

Hope this helps - back to you later. Ann

Here's an excerpt from a published interview with Drunvalo Melchizedek -
from Slim's web site:

>Scott: I have read just bits and pieces about your anti-pollution efforts.
>Exactly what is it that you're doing?
>
>Drunvalo: The technology is extremely simple; it's not complex. There are
>only three components to one of these little machines. One is a coil that's
>based on Tesla technology which we have improved upon so much that the coil
>doesn't even need electricity. There is another coil, based on the
>geometries of the human MerKaBa. In between those two coils there's a little
>transducer, which is a computer chip generating a sound. It's just music;
>that's all it is: music is how we're cleaning the cities up.
>
>Let me describe how we got to the sound we're using, then it will make more
>sense. Every molecule is vibrating and puts out microwaves, a very weak
>field. We've created a very sensitive machine to pick this up and we've been
>able to get the microwave emissions off a rain cloud. We've converted those
>wave signatures into something that you can hear, into sound. That's all
>we've done. So in essence all you're doing is hearing the sound of a rain
>cloud. We put that through the longer coil that perfects the sound. In other
>words, the imperfections inherent in the machine are turned back into the
>original sound by this coil.
>
>Then the other coil acts as an antenna to distribute the sound through
>space. All this little machine is running on is one hundred milliamps, which
>is one watt. Once you've turned one of the machines on, a tube that looks
>like a donut forms around the machine. Within 72 hours, that field will
>expand to about 35 miles. What the field does is convert the hydrocarbons
>into oxygen and water vapor. It really works. The right waveform acts as a
>catalyst and breaks down the molecules into other molecules, and you just
>need to know what that waveform is. When you do you break things down that
>are noxious and toxic, turning them into things that are positive and
>helpful to life.
>
>When the machines are set up you can actually see this take place. I've seen
>this many times: you go into a valley where there's pollution and you can
>see a big deep cloud. Then when the machine is tuned right at the moment
>when you get to tuning - the valley goes clear instantaneously! It doesn't
>happen if you're turning the machine on for the first time. It take three
>days for it to grow out.
>
>Also, we're learning that this field is alive. It appears to be at least as
>conscious as a tree. It's aware of the persons that are doing the tuning and
>it responds to them as they come into the room. These fields are generated
>naturally in certain areas, creating the ecosystems that are there. Every
>time we analyze the deserts, they have reversed fields. You could probably
>reverse the field back again and the whole area would go green. We're
>suspecting that very strongly right now, but we don't know that for sure.
>
>One of our researchers took a machine into the Cape Cod area, which is very,
>very dirty - especially the water - and some of the things it's doing we
>don't really understand, but it cleaned out the air pollution. It also
>cleaned the water. Cape Cod Bay, which was really slimy and dirty, is now
>crystal clear. Over one hundred new life forms have come into that bay
>since, including dolphins and whales, which they've never seen there.
>
>Scott: It sounds completely full of promise.
>
>Drunvalo: It does; it's very exciting. It also drops the crime rate. We can
>lay maps out, without ever looking at the city, and we can tell with good
>accuracy where all the crime areas are in town. We look at the stress lines
>moving through the city, called the geopath lines, and determine the
>direction in which they are moving. We do this because the machines have to
>be placed on the geopath lines. Wherever three geopath lines cross and make
>a triangle - depending on the size of that triangle - the people living in
>that area are going to be subjected to very high stress levels, and that's
>where high crime rates are....
>
>Scott: You make it sound as if the environment could be cleaned at a
>moment's notice, when we choose to make it so. I'm glad to hear that.
>
>Drunvalo: I believe we will be able to bring the earth back to the way it
>was a long time ago. One of my teachers is a Hopi tribe out of Ariozna. Part
>of their prophecy is that right before the time of purification, which is
>when they go from the fourth to the fifth world, the entire would is cleaned
>of all pollution. The water, the land, everything. Because I believe in them
>so much and because I'm seeing what I'm seeing here, I believe that will
>happen.
>
>There are people in Germany studying waveform and ecosystem interaction.
>They plated a piece of metal and threw it into a very dirty lake. In less
>than a few months it went crystal clear. They're using the waveform of
>oxygen. Dr. Valerie Hunt reported that. We found another person that is
>putting waveform into water, and we're just about to study that work. In
>California they rate their lakes like a report card, from A to F. This
>person went to a D-minus lake and poured in five gallons of this water that
>had been treated with a special waveform. We don't know what waveform that
>is yet, but in three months it went from a D-minus to an A. Then they had a
>big rain that washed all the toxins from the surrounding area into the lake.
>They thought it was going to kill the lake again. It did go back to a
>D-minuis when all that stuff washed in, but within seventy-two hours it was
>an A-plus, the highest rating possible given by the state of California. So
>there are very promising works that are being done in the world, and I'm
>really excited. And, it's a lot of fun.
>
>Scott: Do you think that there will be a parallel change in human
>consciousness, prior to the possibility that the earth would be pristine?
>
>Drunvalo: Well, you're going into belief patterns now; but yes, I do. To
>anyone who's watching what's going on, it's obvious that we are going
>through a huge consciousness change. There are all kinds of ways to look at
>it, but definitely what's happening now is extraordinary. I think we're just
>beginning. I do believe that we are going to go into a state of oneness, a
>very high level of consciousness. That's something that the Hopis also say
>we will do: right at the time that the world goes clear, it becomes united
>as one being. I believe that will happen, pretty soon. All of the prophecies
>range between the winter of 1998 to the year 2012.
>
>Scott: I've always chosen to believe that this change can come about in a
>peaceful manner, if we choose.
>
>Drunvalo: I do too. The prophecies of Edgar Cayce predicted great violence,
>but that prediction was made from the consciouisness level of that time. We
>have been changing. If we continue to change in the way we're going, I'm
>very hopeful. It's like a dream: If we can come together in our hearts and
>begin to see something happening that is positive, that is what is going to
>occur. What I'm seeing all around the world is big changes taking place that
>point to our being able to cooperate, at least on a spiritual level; to
>dream a dream of a new world that is beautiful and not violent and weird.
>
>Scott: Do you believe in angels?
>
>Drunvalo: I believe that there are angels, and so does 65 percent of
>America, according to Time magazine....

>I really don't think I could have done this work
>without their help.
>
>Scott: Would you call that state we're evolving toward Christ consciousness?
>
>Drunvalo: I believe that the Christians in the world, from where they see
>what Jesus has done here - which I deeply respect - would call this Christ
>consciousness. Other people who are not in that alignment may just call it
>unity consciousness. Call it whatever name you want, but it will be a state
>of unity where you will know that when you are looking into the eyes of
>another person, God is there. God is present everywhere: all around you as
>well as within you.
>
>I do believe, from all that the angels are telling me, that the situation on
>the earth is extraordinary. Since the beginning of time they have never seen
>a scenario happening like the one that's happening here on the planet today.
>They believe that all of life is going to be affected by what happens here
>on earth. It's primarily tied to the fact that we are evolving differently
>than anyone has ever seen before. That difference is centered around the
>speed at which we're doing it. We're moving very fast, but we don't know
>that because we're inside the system. We don't have anything to compare it
>to. Relative to the rest of the universe, no one has ever seen a race make
>the kinds of changes we're making, at this rate. That's what they're telling
>me, anyway.
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 04:41:19 -0500
From: acarre <acarreATnospamconcentric.net>
To: "Mailing list (Kundalini)" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Unidentified subject! -Reply
Message-ID: <34C4713F.6CE8617CATnospamconcentric.net>

Very nice post i have enjoyed reading it,

Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:

> Women have a 3-stage orgasm, rise, plateau
> and release.. and in the
> "Extended Sexual Orgasm" tantric state, it is
> rise and plateau climbing
> like stairs, to higher and higher vibrations,
> with the release coming down
> slowly for days after..
>
> Men have 2 stages, rise and eruption/release.
> So the "interrupt mechanism" to start
> chanelling the energy elsewhere is
> very different. With men, it is about
> interrupting it until it builds up
> pressure and flows elsewhere.. with women, it is
> more like warming the
> engine up well, then hammering the release
> button till it wears out while
> the rise and plateau are still working.

I very common idea, is to associate the orgasm in
male to the act of ejaculation. One is a
reproductive function, as the fact of having the
period for woman is to their orgasm. I know, you
where not talking about the ejaculation part of
orgasm in men. I do believe that men can develop
this 3 stage orgasm, as they learn to control
there ejaculation. Sexual liberation of woman is
just starting, that of man as not yet started in
occidental society, in general.

I'm not saying men will come to have 3 stage
orgasm as deep as some women do, but i just did
not want to limit the perception that men are tied
to having two stage orgasm.

Antoine

--
May the God of light grant to us sight! May the
heavenly peaks grant to us sight! May God the
creator grant to us sight! Give sight to our eyes
and sight to our bodies that we may see. May we
see the world at a single glance and in all its
details.

Rig Veda 10.158.3-4, Vedic Experience p. 340-341
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 05:08:53 -0500
From: acarre <acarreATnospamconcentric.net>
To: david.bozziATnospamsnet.net
CC: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: ghosts and portals was rope, water...
Message-ID: <34C477B2.46A3E012ATnospamconcentric.net>

David Bozzi wrote:

> > The implication is
> > that it is best to send these lost souls to a
> transitional place from which
> > they can evolve at their own pace.
>
> Planet earth is such a place.

Yes planet earth is such a place unless it affect
in some way the "growth" of a living human will.

My body talking here, lol

Antoine
--
May the God of light grant to us sight! May the
heavenly peaks grant to us sight! May God the
creator grant to us sight! Give sight to our eyes
and sight to our bodies that we may see. May we
see the world at a single glance and in all its
details.

Rig Veda 10.158.3-4, Vedic Experience p. 340-341

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