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1997/10/23 05:48
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #537


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 537

Today's Topics:
  Re: specialness
  Re: Enlightened Ego?
  thank you, goodbye
  RE: channeling - in defence of the Vedas..
  Re: Enlightened Ego?
  Re: Enlightened Ego?
  RE: specialness
  RE: karma
  RE: karma
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 22:35:58 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: specialness
Message-ID: <344E71BB.4A63ATnospamintercomm.com>

E Jason wrote:
>
> Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
>
> > Fake it till ya make it, baby!!
>
> ?
> Lie until it becomes true? :D
> On the Path of Truth, we are on the path of honesty and integrity. This is why I
> constantly dissuade people from accepting anything I say as having any form of authority
> or worth - unless it equates with their understanding.
> The problem with Boddhisatvas, Goddesses and so on is they start to believe their own
> publicity. Fine if they are evolved Beings . . . otherwise . . .
> Your words which you are claiming to be fake, have no authentic integrity, above and
> beyond that of anyone else. I accept that you provide energy for people (shaktiput).
> Such low level psychism is quite common.
> Every developed person I have met was extraordinary in their ordinariness. Meanwhile
> people clustered around the colourful but spiritually useless.

Gloria:
 What is sad here is that the enligtened doesn't broadcast his or her
level of divinity, instead it is revealed through time as fruit. Even
Christ said, who do you say I Am? Leaving it up to the developed
consciousness to see and learn when the time was right, and the eyes and
ears were open to the awareness.
 This whole conversation is simply from the mind, desires, and fantasy.
When the reality comes through the vibration is entirely different. This
is not to say you don't have it in you Mystress, you are just not
allowing the pure essence of the spirit to do the work of removing the
ego/self. With patience and humility perhaps you will see that Ed and I
are not your enemy.
>
>
> > I am also claiming to be a Boddhisativa (or is it a cannibas sativa?)
> > even tho I'm not sure how to spell it. At least I am not alone in that
> > one.. Ram said it of me, before me, and oddly enough, a vedic horoscope I
> > had cast, recently, says so, too.. huh. Go figure.. at least it explains
> > all those awakened past lives memories.

Gloria:
 When it is achieved as consciousness, there will be no thought about it
one way or another, and you won't feel the need to draw attention to
yourself.
>
> A boddhissatva and a goddess. Buddha be praised. Why don't you just try to develop your
> ego to the point were it is strong enough to realise that it is . . .
> Well that is your job.
>
> > By the way, I consider you a God also, whether you think yourself one, or
> > not. Perhaps someday you will think so yourself .. then my statements will
> > make more sense to you. Or not. Whatever pleases you, your Holiness.. I say
> > I am Goddess without saying thou art God also, coz how can I speak for you?
> > Namaste.
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 23:54:55 -0400
From: "F. Drew Leyda" <leydaATnospamvalunet.com>
To: "Ken McFarland" <kenmATnospamOREGON.UOREGON.EDU>,
 "Mystress Angelique Serpent" <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Cc: "Ken McFarland" <kenmATnospamOREGON.UOREGON.EDU>,
 "Kundalini" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Enlightened Ego?
Message-Id: <9710230643.AA16340ATnospamns.valunet.com>

**
>
> > Thank You, Ken, for the gift of your fear for me..
>
> I do not fear you Dear Angelique, I love you.
> Now who is afraid?
>
> Sincerely Yours,
>
> Ken
****
My Oh My, I am not sure what to make of this .
*
Drew
" So Far : So Good "
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 00:06:58 -0700
From: Jason R <mtnhighATnospamoz.net>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: thank you, goodbye
Message-ID: <344EF792.3E5BE855ATnospamoz.net>

This list has grown too large for me to keep up with it any longer. I am
truly grateful for this list and those who have shared on it. You have
certainly helped me on my path.

--
Jason Rumohr, Healer
http://www.oz.net/~mtnhigh
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 12:17:28 +0200
From: "Sen Ashanka"<sashankaATnospamaismi.ais.it>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: RE: channeling - in defence of the Vedas..
Message-Id: <C1256539.00367102.00ATnospamais.it>
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Hello Everybody,

Sorry to put this forth in this list, but since this mail about
the Vedas came in this mail, felt that it should be answered in
this list itself. Maybe a bit off topic, but well...

>-----Original Message-----
>From: anandajyoti [SMTP:anandajyotiATnospamgeocities.com]
>Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 1997 5:44 AM
>To: Dieter Dambiec
>Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
>Subject: Re: channeling
>
>
>The ideas arising out of the followers of Buddha, were already present in
the Indian >society, through Hinduism.
>
>[>] The Vedas have been the source of a great many religious dogma.
>
> Most of the people in the Vedic age drank excessive amounts of
fermented juice, >called somarasa, and ate meat, including beef. After the
advent of Shiva, in the time >of the Yajurveda, people were encouraged to
rear cows to produce milk and to >discontinue eating meat. Nevertheless,
many people in the Vaedic age were alcoholics, >and even those who
performed religious rituals had great difficulty carrying out >their duties
properly. Consequently, a custom was introduced which made it compulsory
>for priests to wear a deer skin across their shoulders, called upavita.
This clearly >identified the priest so that he would not be served alcohol
while conducting >religious ceremonies. Gradually, over the course of time,
the deer skin was >transformed into a thread. Today this thread is the
symbol of the Brahmin caste in >Hindu society.
>[>]
>The Vedas are full of racial sentiments. For example, the Aryans are
described as >white and are considered superior to the other races. They
are termed deities or >Sura. The non-Aryans are described as black and are
considered inferior to the >Aryans. They are termed demons, Danavas or
Asuras. The Vedas are full of inequities. >Any attempt the establish
equality based on the Vedas will be totally false and >misleading.

Well, it is true that after a long time, a particular set of social rules
decays, and what had
happened with the original "Sanathan Dharma" (the eternal religion, which
was later called
Hinduism) was that it had indeed been reduced to priestcraft.

However, as far as inequalities are concerned, are any two human beings
equal ???
Equality at a material and sense level is what was attempted by the
communistic ideas,
but failed badly due to their wrong assumptions about human beings. We do
know that
human beings are different. Some are endowed with analytical sense. So we
have exams
to see who has more of it, so these individuals are given further training
in schools and
universities. Same for people with musical talent, and same for people with
strength.

Vedas has admitted this different among human beings and their various
characters and
moods, and has advocated that each person should be allowed to choose
his/her own
path to salvation. This is why we have the philosophy for the
intellectuals, the bhakti (devotion)
path for the sentimental and the karma (work) path for the strong. All of
these lead to salvation.
If someone is even more enthusiastic he/she may take up all three together
(yoga). Even in
Yoga there are several branches, including tantra and many others which are
not yet known
to everyone.

There is nothing wrong in admitting to this inequality as long as you have
the solution
to each type. On the other hand if there is a religion that says "This path
is the one and
only path and everyone should do this, and nothing else !" then this is a
straight jacketed
path, and a few people will follow it and the rest will not. There is no
scope of recognising
human differences and individuallity and differences in expression.
Moreover, the same
individual during the same lifetime undergoes so many changes in
conceptions and
personality, that the same rules would not hold for that person for the
full life-time !
We all know that too well !

>In the Vedic age, people were oppressed and felt suffocated by the
imposition of >dogma. They got their first experience of freedom during the
life of Buddha, because >he was the first to start a crusade against Vedic
dogma. This was the reason why >Buddhism was accepted by the masses
immediately and spread rapidly.

True, religion had become priestcraft, and people were oppressed. But this
has to do with
the priests and the Kshatriyas (warriors) who craves power and position,
and has nothing
to do with the Vedas. There were the "brahmanic dogmas" and the "kshatriya
dogmas"
but not "Vedic dogma" as you have put it. There was social oppression, but
that was due to
people acting in the wrong manner, nothing to do with the Vedas.

On the other hand the Vedas preach "Spiritual Unity" of all being, a very
strong and
beautiful statement. Every one bound to the same Truth, all expressed
differently.
The basis of all forms of love and morality and non-violence. In fact
Buddha did not
intend to start a new religion, but only to correct the social rot in the
Brahmin-oppressed
society.

Okay, so much for bashing one another up, this debate will continue for
ever......

We have digressed a bit .....

Five six seven eight nine,
Back to that little snake that climbs up the spine.....

Cheers and love to all
Ashanka
Date: Wed, 22 Oct 1997 21:30:13
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Ken McFarland <kenmATnospamOREGON.UOREGON.EDU>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Enlightened Ego?
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19971022213013.4a0773f2ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 18:06 22/10/97 -0700, you wrote:
>At 05:16 PM 10/22/97 +0000, Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
>
>> Thankyou, Ken, for the gift of your fear for me..
>
>I do not fear you Dear Angelique, I love you.
>Now who is afraid?
 
  I did not say you feared me, Ken.. I said you fear for me.. Like a
worrying mother..that I am on the wrong path..
  but I guess you really do fear me, since that is how you read it..
 Blessings, Mystress.

>
>Sincerely Yours,
>
>Ken
>
>

Mystress Angelique Serpent,
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
      :D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
    Common sense and a sense of humor are the same thing, moving at
   different speeds. A sense of humor is just common sense, dancing.
   -- Clive James
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 07:08:36 -0500
From: jeannegATnospamicon.net (Jeanne Garner)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Enlightened Ego?
Message-Id: <199710231208.HAA19746ATnospamns2.icon.net>
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Hi,

>The woman that stays with a man that beats the crap out her because
>he "loves" her.
>
>Is Love perceivable?

Is air perceivable? Yet, don't we all breath?

I would say, for all of us, that it's not for us to judge. Something is
being worked out with this couple described above, something perhaps agreed
upon before entering into those two lives. I know, from having witnessed
such situations before, that it's sometimes almost impossible to imagine how
consciousness could be raised in this way, yet I also feel that everything
we do ultimately leads to growth of consciousness. How many mystics have
said that the Universe works in mysterious ways? I'm at a loss to explain
it, too.

I do know this, though. Judgment is sheer folly. We can't know what is
right for others, only for ourselves. And even then, we're often on shaky
ground.

   Jeanne
 ==-* My stars!
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 19:43:49 +1000
From: Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu.au>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Cc: "'kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: specialness
Message-ID: <01BCE002.375B0680ATnospampppclient6.canberra.edu.au>

-----Original Message-----
From: freda [SMTP:fredaATnospamblarg.net]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 1997 1:06 AM
"religious warfare" is of little concern to me. After
reading your posts I come away with one portion which you write:

[>]
Namaskar I never invented the term "r w". Rationality has nothing to do with religious warfare. Even Buddha was against the Vedic tradition - you cannot classify that as r w. Krsna was the leader of the Pandavas in the Mahabhrarata - now one can accuse this Great Preceptor of r w. Shiva likewise a Greata Preceptor battled against dogma in society - He cannot be accused of r w.

R W arise when one gets posting such a person claiming that they have a slave over which they are dominant. Even if this slave is some luminous body in the astal realm what right has a human being to make anyone, being or thing a slave for themselves. It is negative and deluded mentality. Society has the right to combat such dogma.
>It is clear and simple. It conveys the idea that human
>beings should not be worried under any circumstances. Supreme >Consciousness is always with everyone. If one has love for God the door >of liberation or salvation for human beings will immediately open.
[>]
[>] :Love of God entails granting freedom to all beings. Justifying one's preference of having slaves is not freedom. History shows freedom comes from struggle.

  [>] At a certain stage in the movement of human society along its path, the behaviour, manners, customs, intellect and wisdom of the people cease to develop - they become static -, and society loses its capacity to move forward. This is the critical juncture in history when the society feels the need for an extraordinarily powerful personality, a Maha'sambhu'ti'- At this juncture the advent of such a mighty personality is inevitable. Sprititual revolutionaries will be at the hub of the social cycle to guide and control the movement of the society. They will not allow anyone to perpetrate torture or exploitation.

However, at that stage of acute staticity in the society, which occurs every three to four thousand years, a great and extraordinarily powerful person's advent is extremely necessary. Such a figure or 'Maha'sambhu'ti", infuses dynamism in the social body and accelerates the speed of movement. This was Krsna (3,500 years ago) and Shiva (7,000 years ago). All the virtuous people in the world respond to his call and rally around him. He creates a polarization in the society : the virtuous versus the wicked. In the clash between the two groups, the virtuous people emerge victorious by dint of their special efforts coupled with the grace of that great personality.

Today the battle is between capitalists/communists in the one camp and all material oriented outlooks and pure spirituality (as contrasted to pseudo spirituality).

Shiva's companions were not reputable scholars, but were virtuous people who were always ready to fight against sin. In history they are called 'Shiva's spiritual soldiers.' A few thousand years ago, Krs'n'a was born. At this time also, his companions, the gopas and gopis of Vraja, who worked with him to accelerate the speed of the social movement, were also not profound scholars or learned people, but it is they who were victorious. In those days many songs were sung in praise of those great people. In the present day also, you can see for yourself how the social movement is grinding to a halt. When social progress loses its velocity it is called 'yugasandhi' (transitional period) in Sam'skrta.

 The same polarization is taking place now as occurred in the past.

[>] Each and every living being has a longing for the Great. Each and every person wants to do something noble, something lasting. But the life of each and every person is not crowned with success, because the thing that a person requires most is proper guidance.

There was a Yogi king in ancient India about 3500 years ago and his guide was Lord Krsna. Krsna was a great Yogi. The name of that yogi king was Yudhisthira. Yudhi means "in war, in battle," and sthira means "unaffected, unassailed, balanced." "He who can maintain his mental balance even in wartime" is Yudhisthira. Now, who is a Yogi? Yogi means a practical person. A Yogi has little to do with theory. A Yogi is not a theoretician. S/He is a practical person.

Practical person means one who actually does spiritual meditations (twice a day is preferable) and carries out social service.

      King Yudhisthira was asked a question, and that question was, "What is the proper path, the proper way?" His answer was that one is to follow the practical person and not the theoretician. The theory may or may not be a success in the field of application. It may be good in books, it may be good in theory, it may be good in contemplation, but it may or may not be useful in practical life. So a Yogi, a spiritual aspirant, is to follow the practical person. This means a Yogi is to follow a Mahayogi, a great Yogi.

      Now, there are so many scriptures in the world but these scriptures vary from one another. The supporters of these scriptures, the supporters of each and every scripture say, "Ours is the message of God. It cannot be challenged." By saying this, that it cannot be challenged, they try to block the intellectual progress of the human society. They say that a wo/man should not think beyond this. They are enemies of human progress. Had there been no intellectual progress, then even in this second half of the twentieth century, we would have been in the stone age. So there must be intellectual progress.

Everything and everyone has a shelter. So, the human pineal gland, which is the seat of the unit consciousness', is as good as Krs'n'a for the microcosmic body. The Entity who controls all the created beings from the Universal Nucleus, and around whom all the unit souls dance, is none other than Krs'n'a Himself. Is that Krs'n'a of the microcosmic body the same Krs'n'a of the Macrocosmic body? or is it some other entity connected with Krs'n'a, and revolving around the Macrocosmic nucleus?

Actually, the unit consciousness seated in the pineal gland of the microcosm is beyond any doubt a creation of the Macrocosm. But since it revolves around the Macrocosmic nucleus, it must feel some attraction to it. Without attraction, it would have dissociated from the nucleus and disintegrated. Through this process of movement, human beings, and for that matter all unit consciousness, attain their respective shelters. The cessation of movement would mean loss of shelter and consequent disintegration.

By Krsna is meant not just the great personality of the Mahabharata era - not just the Great Preceptor of the time, but Krsna in the omniscient State.

Now, what about my Krs'n'a? He calls one and all saying: "Come on, come to Me, all of you. I am yours and you are Mine. You are not simply sparks which leap out of Me. You have come from Me and you will return to Me. You will never vanish like sparks in the void. Your future is not all dark, it is resplendent. Your existence will merge in My effulgence, and thereby become all the more effulgent."

This is Krs'n'a - any entity who comes into close proximity with Him becomes one with Him. Not only does a person's spiritual entity merge into Krs'n'a, but his or her whole entitative existence will dissolve into Him one day. It may not be today, it may be a hundred years hence, but the merger must occur. "Oh mind, rest assured that it will happen one day." (Tagore).

The greatest thing about Krs'n'a is that He instills into the human beings a tremendous certainty and fills them with the happy promise of a noble and glorious future. He convinces people that they are not merely sparks coming out of fire. "You have come out of Me and you are moving around Me. You all love Me, knowingly or unknowingly."
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 20:20:54 +1000
From: Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu.au>
To: "Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: karma
Message-ID: <01BCE002.48256D20ATnospampppclient6.canberra.edu.au>

-----Original Message-----
From: tg xxx [SMTP:imtgATnospamjuno.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 1997 5:31 AM
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: karma

<<I've heard suggested that karma is not only a feature that individuals
work
out, but also clans and countries. >>

Mental vibrations take shape in the physical world. but the actual origin of Karma is in the province of the mind. Suppose that I donated ten rupees to a particular person. this shall be termed service. Here in the first instance, I have given the donation mentally. when this mental vibration took the shape of a physical act then I practically made the donation. As soon as the thought of having given the donation occurs in the mind, the physical act of donating flashes, that is, the act actually originated in the mental domain.

This will create a good reactive momenta in potential form (samskara). But ideation while acting to the effect that God is doing everything and what I am doing is God means no reactive momenta in seed form will be created.

In terms of social 'karma', that can be called collective psychology. It is a complicated area.

In brief:

All arenas of individual and collective life undergo changes with the changes in time, place and person. In comparison to the speed of change in social, economic, political and cultural life during the last 500 or 600 years, the speed of social change has greatly accelerated in the twentieth century. In the future, changes in society will take place with accelerating speed.

      One of the scientific processes of social change is viplava or revolution. (The Sam'skrta word viplava is derived from the Vedic root verb vi minus plu plus al). In the wake of every revolution, radical changes occur in individual and social life, and far- reaching changes take place in the collective psychology.

      The main factor in revolution is the application of tremendous force to move society forward. PROUT defines revolution as,

     "Revolution is the application of tremendous force to accelerate the speed of the social cycle."
     
 Replacing one age by another by crushing exploitation and bringing about a change in the collective psychology within a short period of time through the application of tremendous force is what is called "revolution".

      If the reverse takes place, and the social cycle moves in the opposite direction by the application of tremendous force, it is called "counter-revolution". In counter-revolution, society is taken backwards to the previous age. PROUT defines counter- revolution as,

     "Counter-revolution is the application of tremendous force to turn the social cycle in the reverse direction."

      The main task of revolution is to overcome the barriers of staticity and inertia in the collective psychology of one age and establish the next age in the order of the social cycle. Society moves according to the inexorable laws of the social cycle, yet those who are concerned for the collective welfare will always endeavour to accelerate the speed of social movement by fighting relentlessly against exploitation so that all can move forward together in unison.

      When the psychic balance in social life undergoes a revolutionary change, certain factors remain inseparably associated with that change. Some of those factors are the collective upsurge against exploitation; revolt against the status quo; effective struggle to the benevolent forces against the malevolent forces; and the longing for a new collective psychology among the people.

 There are predominantly four types of collective psychology. These psychologies are the shu'dra, ks'attriya, vipra and vaeshya (Sanskrit terminology used here). They have nothing to do with casteism and are completely psychological phenomena.

Shu'dras (workers) are those who are influenced by materialistic waves; they cannot overpower materialistic waves by their individual psychic waves. Manual power is their only means of social security.

Ks'attriyas (warriors) bring the materialistic waves under their control through their physico-psychic waves.

Vipras (intellectuals) do the same thing through their penetrating psychic waves.

For the ks'attriyas, physical strength or valour is the principal means of attaining social security, while the vipras rely on their intellects. A perusal of history illustrates that the vipras, by dint of their intellectual acumen, created a sense of reverence and subordination in the minds of the ks'attriyas, and were thus able to control their physical strength and prowess.

The vaeshya (materialist acquisitors) psychology is somewhat different. The vaeshyas do not want to enjoy material objects; rather they get enjoyment at the thought of accumulating them.

      Primitive society was guided by shu'dra mentality. Gradually society became compact under the influence of ks'attriya mentality, and the ks'attriya era was established in the world. This was an era of heroes and kings. The ks'attriya age was subsequently replaced by the vipra age -- the age of intellectuals and priests. Next came the age of the vaeshyas. The difference between the former two classes and the vaeshyas is that the vaeshyas seldom come to power directly. They put the ks'attriyas or vipras in power, and control the society, economy and polity from behind the scenes. Generally, the amount of physical and psychic clash is less during the ks'attriya and vipra eras compared to the vaeshya era, where poverty, deprivation and exploitation are extreme.

      The transition from one age to the next may take place through natural change, evolution or revolution. Natural change or evolution can bring about change from the ks'attriya era to the vipra era, and from the vipra era to the vaeshya era, but to eliminate vaeshya exploitation, the application of tremendous force is absolutely essential.

      As a result of vaeshya exploitation, those having ks'attriya or vipra mentalities are transformed into the disgruntled slaves of the vaeshyas. They have no alternative but to toil at the behest of the vaeshyas to fill their bellies. Those ks'attriyas and vipras who are turned into shu'dras under circumstantial pressure carry a simmering discontent in their hearts. This group are known as the "vis'kubdha shu'dras" or the "disgruntled workers". These disgruntled workers -- the exploited vipras and ks'attriyas -- give systematic expression to the frustrations of the masses to end vaeshya exploitation. This is the class with revolutionary distinction.

      The revolution which terminates the capitalist era requires the united struggle of the disgruntled workers. Shu'dras can never be the actual revolutionaries because they lack sufficient moral stamina, responsibility and fighting spirit. They are vulnerable to many vices and are not well-established in human values, hence they cannot develop the requisite revolutionary character. The vis'kubdha shu'dras develop into genuine revolutionaries because they acquire the moral courage and discipline to oppose exploitation.
PR Sarkar
Date: Thu, 23 Oct 1997 20:04:45 +1000
From: Dieter Dambiec <d.dambiecATnospamstudent.canberra.edu.au>
To: "Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: karma
Message-ID: <01BCE002.46941EC0ATnospampppclient6.canberra.edu.au>

-----Original Message-----
From: tg xxx [SMTP:imtgATnospamjuno.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 23, 1997 5:31 AM

[>]
<<I've heard suggested that karma is not only a feature that individuals
work
out, but also clans and countries. >>

Mind gets tied to Samskara (reaction in its potentiality) due to its own acts and that is why the unit has to become a slave of life and death. When this Samskara is destroyed through spiritual Sadhana (meditation) and mental purification, s/he goes past the pale of life and death - to the eternal region of immortality, where exists no difference between the soul and the Supreme Soul. Shrii Shrii Anandamurtiji

[>] Worldly happiness is limitless. Dedicate yourself completely to the super-blissful sea of the Supreme Soul. Then alone you will realize what happiness really is. This path of attaining happiness - this Sadhana of self-surrender I call absolute devotion. Go on doing your duties rightly in the world, and through all these worldly functions go on thinking of your characteristic original Self. Then alone your Sadhana will be justified. The constant thought of your characteristic original Self will certainly one day ensconce you in your original Seity and this is the ultimate aim of Sadhana. The Soul is characteristically sinless! [>] Anandamurtijji

 

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