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1997/10/02 22:10
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #488


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 488

Today's Topics:
  Re: Changing our DNA? INDEEDY...
  Re: A Question?
  Re: Relation of removing Entities to Kundalini ?????
  Re: Entity (fwd)
  Re: Word-based Spirituality
  unsubscribing pain
  Re: A Question?
  Re: kundalini pain
  Re: List Mistress
  Re: A Question?
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 23:00:12 -0400 (EDT)
From: GoodwulfeATnospamaol.com
To: kenmATnospamoregon.uoregon.edu
cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Changing our DNA? INDEEDY...
Message-ID: <971002225630_-1731578565ATnospamemout04.mail.aol.com>

 Ken, Im not sure about that.... But thank you for the very warm thought.
 Its very comforting to know that others do care. God knows I really need to
feel that right now. Bless your heart! Love, Kelly
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 20:06:27 -0700
From: Chuck Davis <roshicorpATnospamROSHI.com>
To: Tom S <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: A Question?
Message-ID: <yam7214.1368.19231648ATnospammail.earthlink.net>
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On 02-Oct-97, Tom S wrote:
>Dear Kundalini mailing list,
>I was wondering if anyone would know of some information on Christ Jesus
>and Kundalini? Thankyou
> Sincerely
> Thomas

 Was Jesus Christ a Christian?

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Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 19:46:26 -0500
From: Mike Beaver <yodaATnospamband1.bandwidth.net>
To: Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamdragontree.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Relation of removing Entities to Kundalini ?????
Message-Id: <34344062.598FATnospamband1.bandwidth.net>

Dear Mary:

 Thanks for the post. It's glad to see someone has their own ideas about
things instead of assuming everything's hunky dory everywhere all the
time. I didn't catch the post you mentioned about telling the diff. so
if you can PEM me on it that would be great too; since, like Michael
Chrichton (the famous author) DID, I also DO have attachments of my own
I'm TRYING to get rid of.

Mary Ezzell wrote:
>
> At 06:21 AM 10/2/97 -0700, you wrote:
> >Dear Ruth and all,
> >While some of these topics (entity removal, 12 DNA strands, etc.)
>
> IMO entity removal is relevant, because in thinking I was 'surrendering to
> k', I had let in some foreign entities instead. Now how to get rid of them
> without throwing k out with the bathwater?
>
> Also, if other beings besides k are reorganizing us, we need the wisdom to
> know the difference. :-)
>
> I found Ruth's and her friend's letter very clear and helpful.
>
> Mary

--
Sincerely;

Mike Beaver
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Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 20:18:34 -0500
From: Mike Beaver <yodaATnospamband1.bandwidth.net>
To: Ruth Trimble <trimbleATnospamhawaii.edu>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Entity (fwd)
Message-Id: <343447EA.667AATnospamband1.bandwidth.net>

Dear Ruth:

 Can someone PLEEEEEEEASSE remove my attachments. And if they can tell
me anything about them in the process that would be a nice bonus. If
anyone would like to
read about the exorcism of Michael Chrichton, the famous author, of his
attachments they can get his book, "Travels", or much easier, read the
best part of it on my webpage (URL below).

Ruth Trimble wrote:
>
> This letter came from a friend who is doing this kind of entity
> clearing...see my previous post...
> ================
> Hi Sweetie,
> I think many of us, on an unconscious level, decide to take other
> peoples' entities as a way of helping them.
>
> But we've been seeing another interesting phenomenon. The Access people
> are magnetizing to them pretty big entities that affect thousands, if
> not millions of people. I think this is because 1) We know how to
> transmute them and 2) the entities themselves know we can, and they're
> showing up to be transmuted! Cool. (I think they know their time is
> about up in this dimension.) So since you know of these things and we
> can remove them from you remotely, you are doing a great favor to
> Humanity by keeping in touch with us about anything that shows up on you
> so we can remove it.
>
> Gary said that when an implant such as the Shadow implant or the
> Body/Soul implant is taken off of one person, it lifts off of something
> like 350,000 other people. (This is for the 5 major implants.) And
> taking off a "boss" entity also takes entities off of all the people
> that the "boss" entity was in charge of.
>
> ===============

--
Sincerely;

Mike Beaver
yodaATnospamband1.bandwidth.net
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Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 20:21:07 -0800
From: valerian <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
To: Ed Arrons <eeaATnospamaug.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Word-based Spirituality
Message-ID: <343472AF.4952ATnospamptialaska.net>

<snip valid observations>
> The words can have so much power, the images so resolute in one's mind,
> that it may sometimes seem as if the person is having a direct experience
> and living in the actuality of it. This makes it easy to avoid seeking direct
> experience; then one may readily slip into the world of words and their
> images, letting them shape the aggregate of their reality.
>
> But we all know that words lend themselves to a perplexing ambiguity
> which often leads to conflicts of understanding and much human
> suffering.
>
> Zen understands the limitation of word-based spirituality and opts for
> direct experience of the Oneness. I'm sure Jesus had the same idea
> in stating (n.v.): find ye first the kingdom of God and all things shall be
> added unto thee.
>
> Have that direct experience and fulfill your potential.
v: but - " a nod is as good as a wink to a blind horse..." eh?
;-)
--
"Ah, good taste! What a dreadful thing! Taste is the enemy of
creativeness." PabloPicasso
valerie cooper
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7982/index.html
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 21:17:01
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: markwoollardATnospampowernet.powerwindows.ca
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: unsubscribing pain
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  You are having an argument with an automatic system.. pretty futile.. no
wonder you are frustrated..
  Send me the full header off some of your incoming K list mail, and I can
make a diagnosis.. the header you sent me was from the post I sent you..
not useful.
  If the computer does not know you, then I can do nothing. You are the
only one who knows what address you are subscribed under.. none of the
other members can help you, no matter how much you complain about it.
  If you no longer have access to that address, then I can help you.. but
only if I know what that address is.. and you have kept this key
information secret, so far.
>
>Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
>> I tried to do it, your mail bounces..
>> At 18:16 27/09/97 -0500, you wrote:
>> >I'm having trouble getting unsubscribed. Please help. Thanks

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Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 20:28:40 -0800
From: valerian <madammumATnospamptialaska.net>
To: Chuck Davis <roshicorpATnospamROSHI.com>
CC: Tom S <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: A Question?
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> >tom s:Dear Kundalini mailing list,
> >I was wondering if anyone would know of some information on Christ Jesus
> >and Kundalini? Thankyou

>cd: Was Jesus Christ a Christian?

v: His parents were reputedly of the 'essene' mystery sect of judaism.
rumours have it He studied 'eastern philosophies' in His "missing
years"...
   what exactly *is * a christian anymore, anyway? would jc even approve
of all that commercialism?
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creativeness." PabloPicasso
valerie cooper
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/7982/index.html
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 20:39:17 -0500
From: Mike Beaver <yodaATnospamband1.bandwidth.net>
To: SchrLLATnospamaol.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini pain
Message-Id: <34344CC5.3165ATnospamband1.bandwidth.net>

Dear Linda:

 If you know of anyone on your 1200 list who lives in Portland, Oregon I
would love to give them some free hypnotherapy help for their relentless
pain. In return I would be able to see if Kundalini sufferers could
benefit from the very special regression/release therapy I do; which was
channeled by Ed Martin, or Kingwood, Texas; which he claims to have
healed every major disease in the world with.
 I had a client in Houston, Texas with such pain who, after 1 session
had it for only 1 hour out of the day. After 2 sessions she had no more
pain at all. She was a long time 24 hour a day sufferer like yourself.
Unfortunately her pain came back after 3 weeks of being pain free. I
didn't have a chance to work with her further for several reasons. She
didn't call back anymore; probably because she was still suffering from
the intense depression she's probably still going through as a result of
the death of her husband. I took her forward to the first moment past
her death where she would have no reference to how she died/will die and
she immediately experienced his complete presence again beside her. It
was a very emotional experience for her. I believe her pain returned
because she wouldn't give up the benefit of it; the payments she IS
receiving from the government for her disability; that's one of the
things that must be given up also.
 She had been abducted 72 times by the Greys for breeding purposes; 24
implantations. We sat there and figured it out in about 10 seconds and
the figure was correct. That amazed me considerably. It started when she
was 9. Subtract that from her age and then subtract 3 for the 3 years
she was already pregnant with human fetuses (none of which it seems she
carried to term) and multiply by three and you get 72. I can't remember
her age at this moment. I found all that out by accident after the end
of the second session. 24 implantations. Next month 24 checkups. Next
month 24 removals. 2 months of gestation for each.

SchrLLATnospamaol.com wrote:
>
> n a message dated 97-10-01 21:13:10 EDT, you write:
> To: GoodwulfeATnospamaol.com
> CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
>
> To Kelly and everyone lurking,
>
> This is in response to your desperate plea for an explanation for your
> painful Kundalini process. I too have been suffering for years with the
> same
> kind of tormenting symptoms you mention, plus disabling spine pain that at
> times is excruciating. I also have the same type of character qualities you
> describe: compassionate, courageous, self-sacrificing, with a compelling
> need
> to serve and give to others.
>
> As to whether your condition is Kundalini or an underlying disease, the two
> are not mutually exclusive and both can occur simultaneously. I know
> Kundalini is active in me because no disease I've ever heard of has the
> bizarre scope of the things I've experienced (and still experience daily).
> Like you, I've had little in the way of bliss, but I've had so many
> powerful
> mystical, psychic and paranormal experiences which nothing but active
> Kundalini could explain.
>
> It will probably grate on your nerves to be told that some of the
> inflammation (I have it too -- horrendous!) is due to repressed anger. I've
> discovered this is partly true in my case, but not as might be imagined. My
> anger is from a part of me that is enraged over how terribly I've suffered,
> not just with Kundalini, but on all levels throughout my life. I discovered
> I have been forcing myself to live up to superhuman expectations of
> selflessness. I've learned that some of my Kundalini pain is due to
> overdeveloping my altruistic side, leaving me with a deep imbalance where I
> need -- and am slowly learning -- to be more generous and gentle to myself.
> I also saw that I have tremendous difficulty forgiving God (and the
> Universe) for imposing suffering on any living being for any reason. These
> are profound angers of the soul, not your garden variety
> "I'm-mad-at-so-and-so."
>
> In addition to the compulsory yoga we both have experienced, I've had
> spontaneous and totally unexpected releases of devastating grief, terror and
> re-lived trauma from childhood abuses I thought I had already gotten past.
> I
> can sense there is a lot more in me that needs to come up before my system
> is
> unblocked and the energy can move freely.
>
> It occurred to me in late '92 was that there must be hundreds or thousands
> of
> us, struggling in isolation through overwhelming pain, fear and the overall
> enormity of this process. That's when C. Kress and I began Shared
> Transformation (Kundalini support) newsletters. It is a miracle we've been
> able to keep the newsletter going these past 5 years while I've been
> entirely
> bedridden in agony for months at a time, and even on my "good" days I can't
> sit or stand for very long.
>
> We continue to hear from people from all over the world who are going
> through
> this -- over 1200 to date. I would estimate that between 5-10% are as
> relentlessly sick as you and I. At the other end of the spectrum, another
> 5-10% experience no illness or pain, only powerful energies, bliss and
> mystical/psychic phenomena. Dr. Yvonne Kason, in her excellent book A
> FARTHER SHORE, says that people like you and me who have the rare pattern of
> nonstop Kundalini activity are the most likely to endure severe physical or
> mental/emotional symptoms. For what comfort it may bring, many shamans
> believe that those of us who have the hardest time with this will undergo
> the
> most radical self-transformation.
>
> Who has the final say as to whether or not it is really Kundalini? I would
> give that honor to Kundalini herself. If she has come to reside within you,
> in one way or another she makes her presence and her reality known. Even
> people who have gone through this a decade or longer without ever hearing
> the
> word "Kundalini" have come to realize some kind of immense spiritual force
> was at work.
>
> I've asked myself the same kinds of questions you have: "What's the point of
> all this suffering? How can I continue to serve when I can barely survive?"
> One of the answers that came to me was that I have already learned how to
> serve; now I must learn to let go of my idea of who I'm supposed to be and
> love myself as much as I've loved others. I'm also being shown that even
> suffering has a divine, ultimately benevolent purpose. Not that suffering
> in
> itself is something noble or good, but that suffering's purpose is to
> awaken.
> Most people cannot spiritually and psychologically mature without it.
>
> Bliss and joyous experiences are inspirational and validating, while
> suffering and hardship break us, allowing us to be changed in ways we didn't
> know we needed. Many people with catastrophic illnesses and those who go
> through other crises in life which "break" them are then able to experience
> new ways of being which are far more whole and fulfilling than ever before.
>
> I suspect that when I am able to realize this, not simply intellectually as
> I
> do now, but in the deepest recesses of my psyche, I will regain my trust in
> the universe and simultaneously be freed from much pain. It's a paradox.
> When we can fully accept something (not just resign ourselves to it, but
> fully surrender to it -- which, again, paradoxically may mean allowing
> ourselves to rage and scream and howl and weep), only then does it change.
>
> I haven't gotten this far yet with my physical pain, but I have watched this
> pattern repeat itself in many other circumstances where I seemed to be
> hopelessly stuck. There are probably more causes to the pain than what I've
> brought up here, and even if I understood them all it would still hurt. But
> it does help me somewhat to find these answers to my own "why?" I hope it
> will be of some help to you as well.
>
> Sorry if I ranted on so long.
> El Collie
> >>
> Right On, El Collie!
> The source of my most terrible of pains, which I too was disabled with off
> and on for years, is the source now of my bliss. Get this. I , being the
> altruist as you are, used to accept my pain and bore that cross until I
> finally had suffered enough. When I freaked out and decided to become a
> hedonistic, sensualist my pain began to go away. Perhaps I just needed to
> give myself permission to take a break. I am glad you are learning to love
> yourself. You deserve it!
> Love and Light, Linda ATnospam->->--

--
Sincerely;

Mike Beaver
yodaATnospamband1.bandwidth.net
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Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 22:02:43
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: MrNamasteATnospamwebtv.net (MrNamaste)
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: List Mistress
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At 10:22 02/10/97 -0500, MrNamaste wrote:
>
>I have read part of your reply, trying to figure out what you were
>attempting to communicate.

  Read the rest, maybe you'll get it.
  Most of it was not for you, in any case..was it.? . or was it.?. except
for the stuff about trusting to perfection...? and how thoughts manifest
reality..? and how focusing on mistakes, fears and unhappiness is not as
strong a choice as focusing on blessings.?
  David already knows all of that, he is living it.
  I put several ideas into one post.. related concepts, but left turns too.
When I am typing to the list, the room gets foggy, the vertical blinds
start to move ... the hanging owl spins, and sometimes I am impulsed to
write about things that seem not quite on the subject I am responding to.
But they are always connected.
  The "left turns" mentioned in the post: I have learned to go with the
impulse, for the most part.. and usually I get a post or two in response
from lurkers who needed that precise bit of information, expressed in the
"left turn".
  I do not mind that this makes me appear very scatterbrained, at times. I
am in service o the list community.. and to myself.. I like it when the
room gets foggy.. I trust members, to choose to believe in the
perfection, as well. Or not.. ha ha..
  Sometimes the "left turns" surprise me so much, I hesitate to post them.
Uusually that, too, is perfection.. the response to you & David, coming out
days late, but perfectly in sync with the Ruth/El collie dust-up.

  You were requesting a response for David, and David understood it, (the
bits directed to him, at least..) so it worked fine... or were you
requesting responses for you..? ;)

  If you would like to post me privately, with your questions, perhaps I
can clear up the muddy bits for you.. or you could simply read the rest of
it, then read it again. Then read the posts around it.
  Your unconscious already understands, and your conscious brain is
struggling, this is why frustration is expressed.
  Others understood it, and have written me privately to thank for the
insights.
  I thank you for the inspiration, even if you do not get the point. It
will come round to you again, inspiration is circular, like that..;)
>
>I am surprised you tell me to have this David subscribe to your list.
>He has been ON list for quite some time.

  Yes, precisely so:
  I was surprised that you were reposting his mail, as I was certain he was
on the list, already, and presumably capable of reposting his own mail, if
he was unsatisfied with the responses.
  This told me that there was more to your words that what you were saying..

  Hmmm.. arright, OK: I am getting that I need to really break down what I
meant by that uncover it, dig it up, and come out to be clear as I can..
coz it was another left turn.. several ideas expressed in one contradictory
and appearing incorrect statement.
   I am manipulative of your unconscious, ..yes, I admit this.. rather, me
and my unconscious, and our Higher selves are.. often I am not aware of all
that I am expressing, at the time, myself, either..:)
   The words are a part of the message, and their opposite meaning, is a
part, and there is the symbolism.. the energy carries part of it, too,
direct unconscious vibrations of K. that make sweat and tingles.
  Sometimes I express ideas in a way that your unconscious will understand
perfectly, but in a way that the meaning will bypass your conscious mind,
at first.. especially if I get that you are unwilling to hear the
information. Of course, all is consensual.. your unconscious mind still has
the option to veto the information.. or it will choose to accept it, if it
is in your highest good, to do so.. and start to shift concepts to align
with the new idea..
  These shifts, will be felt by your conscious mind as confusion. This is
for the highest good. When we think we have found "truth", we stop
accepting new ideas. Confusion is a state of openness.. and uncomfortable
with it, we grasp hungry for the new information, as you are doing by
writing to seek clarity.

   So..
   David is on the list, so why are you reposting his mail?
  Your answer.. coz you are feeling guilt, that you have limited David's
getting feedback, by excessively expressing yourself about "morality". Yet,
David's post required little expression: he is doing well.. and he has
written since, that the responses he recieved privately were adequate for him.
  So.. I percieved immediately, you were not doing it for David, but for
yourself. Because he represents a part of your own mirror self, that is not
recieving enough expression.
  This post was really all about the part of you that resonates with David,
the part that knows, trusts to the perfection of the process, and
surrenders, having learned to focus on the brightness... that part of you
wanting to shine, and be heard, seeking support.. but you are feeling that
that "David" part of you is silenced by the erroneous giant "righteous"
part of you, that insists on seeing imperfection, error, spouting about
morality, and producing guilt and apology.
  Your own "David and Golaith" story, going on inside of yourself. You were
seeking support for this aspect of yourself, which is evidently missing
from your own experience, or you would not be apologising and presuming
error. Your unconscious knows all of this, and it was immediately apparent
to me, reading the post.. and also clearly, you did not realize it (the
mirror effect) or you would not have posted thus.
   So obviously, you were dealing with internal resistance to these ideas,
(also expressed as confusion) seeking support.. and I prefer not to
address resistance directly.. it is futile, usually. I get around it,
instead.. by connecting with the higher self.. so it was "over your head",
eh? heh heh..

  You posted David's story.. so you know where the "right" turn is.. toward
trusting the process. But Goliath is stubborn about going there.. he
doesn't like right turns, coz he is cyclops, blind in one eye. So we make
three left turns, to lead him to go right. Or six left turns, then he is
dizzy amd confused, and more willing to trust the guidance that is saying,
"take a right turn, even if you cannot see where it will lead."
  We don't need to kill off Goliath, we just need to persuade him to stop
the violence to your being, of his negative judgements and guilt. Make him
dizzy and confused..
  My post, was in support of "David", with a lot of left turns for
"Goliath",.. so he/you will surrender to "David"'s direction.
  My invitation for "David" to "join the list", your unconscious will have
read correctly.. as an invitation for the trusting part of you, the
David-bit.. to come forward and speak for itself. To show up! To take a
more active part in your personality and outlook.. so Goliath will not have
to speak anymore..
 It was read as an error by your conscious mind.. as intended.
  
>
>I am sorry I did not bring this to your attention.
>
>Thank you for your time and concern in writing such a long reply --- how
>ever, I do not understand it.
>
>Peace.
>
  There you go apologising again. Very self absorbed, with guilt, eh? Hmmm..
  Try on this idea for size.. you think you make mistakes, yet every one of
them is perfection.. if you have the trust to see it as perfection.
  Kundalini is a limitless force, and intelligent.. make all the "mistakes"
you want, K. will work outside of time and space, changing the past and the
future, creating left turns.. to guide you into an everchanging parade of
perfection.. that is what an unconditionally loving Goddess will do ...
but you need to trust that perfection is there, before you will start to
look for it.
  David has just posted that his wife is leaving him, and expressed that he
finds this very painful, yet the pain is soothed by his faith that all is
as it should be, and will bring grace, in the end.
  You are being divinely guided in your every thought, word and action.
Whether you believe it or not. Just because things do not turn out to your
expectations, does not mean it is a mistake. Sometimes it is Goddess giving
you more and better than what you have asked for. Begin to trust in this,
have less stress, spend less time apologising. Stop second -guessing
yourself.
  I leave you to contemplate something the Crustacean quoted awhile back...
that I liked so much, I stuck it on my website.. apparently it is actually
from "A Course in Miracles":

Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate.
Our deep fear is that we are powerful beyond measure.
It is our light, not our darkness, that most frightens us.
We ask ourselves, "Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented and
fabulous?"
Actually who are you not to be?
You are a child of God. Your playing small doesn't serve the world.
There's nothing enlightened about shrinking so that other people
won't feel insecure around you.
We were born to manifest the glory of God that is within us.
It is not just in some of us; it's in everyone.
And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other
people permission to do the same.
As we are liberated from our own fears, our presence
automatically liberates others.

    --Nelson Mandela
  1994 Inaugural Speech (fragment)

  I do not accept your apologies, and I hope you don't accept them either..
with thanks for alla the folks who told me the same, last time I apologised
to the list.. my post is long, self serving... I need to be reminded, too..
we teach best what we most need to learn.
 Blessings, Mystress.
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 22:01:45 -0700
From: onarresATnospaminreach.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: A Question?
Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19971002220145.007d03c0ATnospammail.inreach.com>
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At 08:28 PM 10/2/97 -0800, you wrote:
>> >tom s:Dear Kundalini mailing list,
>> >I was wondering if anyone would know of some information on Christ Jesus
>> >and Kundalini? Thankyou
>
>>cd: Was Jesus Christ a Christian?
>
>v: His parents were reputedly of the 'essene' mystery sect of judaism.
>rumours have it He studied 'eastern philosophies' in His "missing
>years"...

You are right, Mary was of the Essene sect. In the later years, the Jewish
religion thought that the Essene's were not to be included as a sect of
their religion because they were more Christian-like than Jewish.

Yes, you are also right about Eastern Philosophies. Jesus received the Holy
Spirit (spiritual awakening or kundalini) as a lad of about twelve years of
age, and during the lost years he traveled with Joseph of Aramathea to
India to learn mysticism and then to Egypt for his final initiation.
Afterwards, all types of miracles were attributed to him. It would appear
that Jesus had become a fully enlightened being by the time he returned
from his travels. Incidentally, Jesus was the man, Christ is the pathway...
 dor

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