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kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #487


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 487

Today's Topics:
  Re: A few words anonymously.
  Re: Purple et al.
  being human
  Re: Changing our DNA? INDEEDY...
  Re: kundalini pain
  Re: kundalini pain
  Re: kundalini pain
  Re: kundalini pain
  My journey...there and back. LONG
  Fw: Changing our DNA? INDEEDY...
  Unsubcribe
  Word-based Spirituality
  Re: reality & fantasy
  DNA
  Re: Changing our DNA? INDEEDY...
  A Question?
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 14:45:15
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: A few words anonymously.
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>Subject: Re: A few words
>
>Angelique,
>
>Please post this anonymously. Thank you.
>
> A friendly spirit
>
>
>
>Dear List,
>
>Some have been rather harsh with the different things that Ruth had
>attempted to explain to you. So please allow me briefly to explain some of
>these things as I see them. If, however, you are not in the mode to read
>this, please delete. It is not my objective to upset anyone, and therefore
>I have decided to post anonymously.
>
>We are all the path to full enlightenment, some may get there in this
>lifetime, others may not. We have been doing experiments with all types of
>things in the past, including human bodies. Some of those tests still go on
>today. It is not a pleasant thing, but it does happen. As spirits we
>inhabit these bodies, and in doing so we are attempting to uplift all
>things. Some detour from the original plan that they had created for
>themselves never to get back on the path. Others may detour and take
>another path, never to get back on, while still doing something within that
>scheme of what they set for themselves. Some do a detour for awhile, get
>back on, and fulfill the original plan they had set for themselves. And
>there are the blessed souls who stay on this path their entire allotted
>years.
>
>There will be many of us who will cross over into the spiritual plane to
>help with the transition of many souls that will make a mass exodus from
>this plane. That is what they have agreed to do prior to birth into this
>life. They are the helpers, teachers and guides to future generations.
>
>In the early days of the earth progression, yes there were, what we refer
>to aliens who did experiments, and the Atlantean culture made some tragic
>mistakes creating 'things', these things were half human and half animal.
>Throughout history, there has been mention of these things, which were set
>into the category of mythical creatures and creatures made up to keep the
>inhabitants in line with the thoughts of the dominant society in that time
>frame. And yea, the Atlanteans worked with the aliens! What we don't
>understand we cover up, by attaching a name such as mythology.
>
>We were originally much different than we are now, and yes, our DNA has
>changed before and is changing again. Presently - there is a photon band of
>light that is into the earths range and as a result of this photon band,
>there are many people being awakened to the spiritual energies this photon
>band has upon us. As the earth changes, we must change also, we must adapt
>our bodies to remain in the light. Should we not adapt we cease to exist in
>bodies.
>
>Someone, recalled a dream of this light, and attached significancies to
>enlightenment. This was to allow this person a brief glimpse into what was
>happening. It was, of course, meant for this person to sort out the dream
>and interpret the dream for him/herself. Sorry, dear fellow traveler, I
>cannot recall your name. I too, have seen while in the dreamstate, a blue
>planet moving into Earth's range, quite large, next to and left of the
>planet there were two stars, they merged creating one large star. We all
>have dreams, but we attach little significance to them, but rather
>contribute them to something that is vague and incomprehensible. I do say,
>that all dreams are telling something, something that is changing us, now
>and in the future.
>
>I do not have time to read these petty spats and verbal abuses, so I will
>cease to do so. We are all in our own way reaching towards enlightenment,
>and the verbal condemnation of others is truly unworthy of any of you. So
>you say, what has this to do with kundalini? Lots, for the awakening
>process of all of us, has an effect on the Earth. The energy being
>transmitted can not change the destiny of the planet, but perhaps we can
>ease it a little for the masses who have not the slightest inclination of
>what is going on.
>
>Has anyone ever dug deep into their subconscious and tried to come up with
>a plausible answer as to why so many are on the awakening path? Surely
>there is an answer, but you and you alone can answer that for yourself. Why
>you? Look deep into yourself, you will find the answer.
>
>Many are in deep distress, being ill is not pleasant, but there too is a
>reason for this, you are cleaning and clearing a divine pathway towards the
>exalted state of awareness. To accept this as the Creators plan, move with
>that illness, knowing that it will lift and you will be rewarded for you
>patience and understanding, as you will have helped all humans living in
>body today, and perhaps in the future. This is the path you have chosen for
>yourselves. You knew it would painful, but you accepted it anyway... this
>is your cross, and you will be blessed.
>
>There are entities who attach to our bodies, they cause all types of
>negativity, illness and condidtions that we are not aware of, they manifest
>little by little, so much so that we are not aware of them. To rid oneself
>of these attachments, we need to seek help or a deep meditative state in
>order that they may be released. There is a clearing that must be done.
>
>Instead of criticism of others. and retaliating with verbosity of
>negativity, just read the post and if you shouldn't like what you are
>reading, just release it, throw it to the Cosmos and allow it to go in
peace.
>
>Thank you, if any of this makes sense to you, then that was my mission
>today. With the help of someone who keeps giving me a nudge, I remain... a
>seeker of truth and enlightenment.
>
>
>
>
>At 11:23 AM 10/2/97 -0700, you wrote:
>>At 06:21 AM 10/2/97 -0700, you wrote:
>>>Dear Ruth and all,
>>>While some of these topics (entity removal, 12 DNA strands, etc.)
>>
>>
>>IMO entity removal is relevant, because in thinking I was 'surrendering to
>>k', I had let in some foreign entities instead. Now how to get rid of them
>>without throwing k out with the bathwater?
>>
>>Also, if other beings besides k are reorganizing us, we need the wisdom to
>>know the difference. :-)
>>
>>I found Ruth's and her friend's letter very clear and helpful.
>>
>>Mary
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 14:55:16
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Purple et al.
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At 11:20 01/10/97 -1000, you wrote:
>Dear Mystress writes:
> One of the side effects I noticed, was a wierd attraction to purple silk
>shirts..
>>>>>>
>Ilove it... but how about wearing the opposite color to purple which means
>that you are REFLECTING the opposite of it out and the INNER color is more
>of the purple ? Does this make sense? ... it means your inner vibrates the
>color that is the opposite of the color you are wearing.
>Ruth
>*****
>
  uh-huh.. and I wrote that post, wearing a yellow silk shirt and gold
satin camisole.. yellow is opposite on the wheel of color, from purple. I
find I like wearing the colors themselves, better, tho..:)
  I also like the effect meditating with different color crystals has on
chakras.. amethyst and the purple flame, citrine and tigers eye for the
power chakra.. rose quartz and labradorite, or green calcite for the
heart.. lapiz lazuli and sapphire for the throat.. carnelian for the root,
.. iron pyrite, or hematite, for grounding. Obsidian brings up negative
energy to be released.. can be volatile for Kundalites.
  Lately I have been collecting Herkimer diamonds.. nice white light buzz,
seems to enhance the effect of the other crystals. White quartz crystals
are a standby favorite.. you can put energy into them when you have too
much, take it out later when you need it.
 Blessings, Mystress.
Date: Fri, 03 Oct 1997 00:33:15 +0100
From: "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: being human
Message-ID: <34342F3B.6C25CFC7ATnospambluewin.ch>

Contained in human being are all the architypes of human possibility.
We each bring some to light and keep some in shadow. Thus there exists
a range of types of people, some beautiful in thought and deed, some
ugly. But we all contain both the beauty and the ugliness of being
human.

I endevour to live beautifully, to be spiritual, to do good, but I a can
never live up to these ideals absolutely. Their opposites are
inevitably still present in shadow. And shadow makes a habit of
presenting itself now and then.

When the shadow presents itself and I notice that I am having a selfish
thought or performing an ungraceful deed, ideas of how I should think
and act burst into mind. I want so badly to live up to my ideals and I
rush to correct myself when I don't. But the shadow is not a cancer to
be removed, it is an integral aspect of the human form. My efforts to
correct myself will only result in further shadow.

Recognising and embracing the opposites of what one thinks, feels and
does, can be enriching and stablising. All the qualities one believes
to be true about oneself have a shadowy opposite which may be equally
true at the same time. It is paradoxical but that is the nature of the
dualistic existence in which we are manifest. Proton <-> antiproton.

If I think that I am knowledgeable then I must also be ignorant.
If I do good then I must also be capable of evil.
If I feel that I am awakened I must also be unaware.
If I think I am spiritual then I must also be a fool.
If I am powerful then I must also be weak.
If I think something important happened then it must also be
unimportant.
If I think I am generous I must also be selfish.
etc.

Knowledge and spirituality require no *specific* action, ritual, feeling
or thought. They require an ever-widening embrace of all aspects,
action, feelings and thoughts of the human form. And there must be
endless possibility beyond that.

Zympht.
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 18:55:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: GoodwulfeATnospamaol.com
To: chelseaATnospamsuperaje.com
cc: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Changing our DNA? INDEEDY...
Message-ID: <971002185210_189575468ATnospamemout11.mail.aol.com>

  MO, I would like, if possible, to chat with you by private E-mail about
your experiences with UFO's, you mentioned. I have been having quite a
time trying to find someone in my area to help with a similar "problem?" and
have yet to find anyone I can trust with my experiences.
 
      If you'd be willing to share your experiences, I would very much enjoy
"listening", as well as sharing mine with you. It's a touchy subject to
talk about with just anyone, so if you think you might like to "trust" a
stranger, Im willing too! ! !

     As you can see by the posts from some, this is not a "cool" place to
reveal your heart, as your energy can be swiftly snatched up by the ones who
"prey." Sorry to sound so "Sci-fi" , but, as you have seen, I have been a
"host" for several.

      So, if you'd like a new friend to share experiences, and compare
notes(hehe) with about this whole situation, I really need to talk to
someone who WONT stand in judgement about every little thing that comes out
of my mouth, and give me there
"Diagnosis" about what I need to do to have a more beneficial
"transformation."

      Would love to hear from you! Love and Laughter, ~ Kelly ~
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 20:54:48 -0400
From: Mark Woollard <markwoollardATnospampowernet.powerwindows.ca>
To: SchrLLATnospamaol.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini pain
Message-ID: <34344258.238DATnospampowernet.powerwindows.ca>

Kundalini pain is being unable to unsubscribe to this list. Looks like
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Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 20:57:59 -0400
From: Mark Woollard <markwoollardATnospampowernet.powerwindows.ca>
To: SchrLLATnospamaol.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini pain
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Mark Woollard wrote:
>
> Kundalini pain is being unable to unsubscribe to this list. Looks like
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Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 20:58:08 -0400
From: Mark Woollard <markwoollardATnospampowernet.powerwindows.ca>
To: SchrLLATnospamaol.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini pain
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Mark Woollard wrote:
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> Kundalini pain is being unable to unsubscribe to this list. Looks like
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Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 20:58:23 -0400
From: Mark Woollard <markwoollardATnospampowernet.powerwindows.ca>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini pain
Message-ID: <3434432F.4C3CATnospampowernet.powerwindows.ca>

Mark Woollard wrote:
>
> Kundalini pain is being unable to unsubscribe to this list. Looks like
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Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 19:44:17 +0000
From: Nancy <NancyATnospammagiccity.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: My journey...there and back. LONG
Message-ID: <3433F98D.7F65ATnospammagiccity.com>

Dear k-list

Seems almost prophetic today what I wrote about attachment.

My soon to be x-husband was in town. He had been trying to engage me in
debate, in argument, in any kind of interaction. NOTICE ME!

No way.

I haven't told you all the story, but I feel compelled to tonight. I
guess it's a way for me to release this pain and anguish that has been
carried with me.

Three years ago, we began a business. We were full of hopes and dreams,
enthusiasm and energy. It was my dream to own a successful newspaper. It
was tough going. We became immersed in debt and struggled to keep up.

After two and half years, there was a bright light. We were awarded a
lucrative contract to produce someone else's newspaper as well as our
own.

I wrote, designed, did bookkeeping, managed the staff, handled
production, and managed door to door distribution to 35,000 homes. His
job was to do sales. Which he wouldn't do. Because sales weren't up to
muster, our contract was terminated. Well, we still have our newspaper,
I thought optomistically. We can do this! He wanted no part of it. I
told him to pack his things out of his office and get out of the
business.

He went home and for a while played housekeeper. Then he decided he
needed career counseling. He'd go back to his mom's, 1000 miles away. I
thought this was a great idea. It would give him a chance to sort things
out. He was gone two weeks then he came back.

Meanwhile, I finished up our contracted work with the help of two
beautiful women I was honored to have as my employees. A sales person
had planned to join our group but bailed out at the last minute.

"What should I do?" I asked the ex.

"You're so selfish," was his reply. "All you think about is the
business."

I was very angry. I was bleeding myself trying to save the business, our
financial situation, our house. And this he said was selfish. Something
changed in me that day. I was filled with resentment, resentment that I
had been keeping inside for 10 years.

Screw him. Screw the sales person. We'll do it anyway. We managed to
complete our first issue. The three of us sold it, designed it, wrote it
and managed distribution. We had a great big group hug as we sent the
keylines off to the printer. We did it! I sent a check to pay for our
last print run with the keylines.

As we were finishing our issue, ex was once again out of town. More talk
of "finding himself." Whatever, I thought.

Then the shock came. The printer's comptroller called. The check I sent
him was no good. It HAD to be good. I knew I had money in the account to
cover it. I searched through bank records. Sure enough, ex had engaged
in maniac telephone transfers over the course of his duration at mom's.

I called the printer, explained the predicament. He was very nice and
understanding.

I called the ex and told him he'd better get home right now if he wanted
to stay married. He did. And when he returned he once again began the
tirade about how selfish I was. How I didn't care for his needs. He
wanted me to hug and kiss him. I wanted to shove my foot all the way up
his ass.

I asked him to think about my daughter's needs. On and on, he talked
about himself.

"You make me sick," I said with disgust and stomped off to the couch.

He left the next night. Took half of the money out of the personal
account. And he was gone.

I was devestated. No husband. I couldn't continue the business with
three people trying to do a bi-weekly paper. First I just cried and
watched movies. What could I do? How could I go on?

Then a seed of an idea formed. Why not write a business plan and find
venture capital money to hire the staff to make a weekly newspaper run?
I knew there was a market. And I had enough experience to pull off the
operation.

Writing the plan was very difficult. My heart wanted to be depressed,
lay in bed all day, continue with the movies. I'd make myself go sit at
my office every weekday. Sometimes it was only for an hour. Sometimes it
would be four. Sometimes I'd work. Other times I'd cry at my desk.

After a month of this, I knew I had to get out of town. I visited my
mother out of state over Christmas and let her take care of me. I
brought my dog and cat and daughter. My daughter went to see her dad the
asshole. I read books, journaled, ate and took care of my animals.

 I also revisited my past. I had worked in this city for nine years for
three different employers. And I also worked for myself for two and a
half years. Everyone was so glad to see me. I had begun to doubt myself.
Their support helped buoy my spirits.

"Are you moving back?" asked one of my former bosses who owned an
advertising agency. He would have hired me in a minute. That same man
set up an appointment with a client who was the marketing director of a
weekly newspaper in the city. That meeting left me with the feeling,
yes, I do know what I'm talking about. I do know about newspapers. I can
do this!

Back home, I was on fire. I was motivated and encouraged. I finished the
plan and contacted some governmental agencies who work with small
business. I connected with a nice man who didn't think my idea was crazy
at all. I also developed a relationship with an older gentleman, a
retired banker who became my mentor. I'd meet with one or the other
every week just to make sure I wasn't crazy.

By April I took a part-time job teaching to make ends meet until I could
get the newspaper started. Shortly after, I found my first investor.
Then the retired banker said he would help. I HAD MY MONEY!

Meanwhile, expenses for the business were mounting. I couldn't pay the
business phone bill so it was disconnected. The printer (remember the
one who got the bad check?) tried calling. When he got the disconnect
notice, he paniced.

Two days later, I was arrested and jailed. Charged with felony check
writing. Bond was $10,000. I was handcuffed, finger printed and mug
shot. Since the printer was out of county, I had to be extradited.

I had no money. My friends had no money. My ex of course wouldn't help.
I was all alone, thrown away, behind bars. I spent time with murderers
and drug dealers, women who had no insurance and those who had been
convicted of too many DUIs. I spent five days in jail, desperately
trying to find a way out. Begging my friends to get me out. No one could
help. Finally, I remembered a retired judge I knew from a board I served
on. My friend called. Of course he would help. He happened to know the
judge I would appear before and assured him that I was no threat to
society.

I traveled with a drug user and a counterfieter to my destination 100
miles away. Shackled and cuffed. I was released on my own recognizance
after appearing before the judge.

My business partners thought I was inappropriate to continue on in the
business. I knew where I stood with my husband. And one by one, those
who I thought were friends disappeared from my life.

I was thrown in jail on Friday, June 13. Today I have a job and an
apartment and my daughter and my animals. I have been doing very well.
Getting on with my life.

This week, ex visited my daughter. The person I was died in that cell.
This new Nancy was no longer willing to tolerate his crap. No, I do not
want to talk to you. No, I do not want you at my apartment. He has no
hooks into me, I thought.

I was wrong.

In the past month I have been freelancing saving money for my rent and
expenses. Today he came to town and closed out my business account,
taking half the money.

Yes, I was stupid. I didn't even think of this. His name was still on
the account even though he resigned (and I have it in writing.)

Ever since that check writing problem, I have been reluctant to write
checks or spend money. So I have been just keeping money in my business
account and withdrawing it as I need it.

I was supposed to pay my rent today. And I was supposed to pay for my
cat's vet bill today. I could do neither because I couldn't get the
money I earned.

I am so sickened. When will this end? I am so ready to be done with this
pathetic, vengefull man. Yet he won't leave me alone. Every time I try
to get back on my feet, I get shoved back down by his actions. I am
truly at a loss.

Well, k-friends, I don't think there's anything you can do to solve this
problem. I just needed to tell you all how much I have appreciated this
forum. I know this is one place where I can share anything without fear,
without retaliation.

Thanks for letting me spill....

Nancy
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 21:50:52 -0400
From: "Rick Puravs" <ric51ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Fw: Changing our DNA? INDEEDY...
Message-Id: <199710030150.VAA06382ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net>

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> From: bRYEndTOASTER <wakemupATnospameskimo.com>
> To: Rick Puravs <ric51ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net>
> Subject: Re: Changing our DNA? INDEEDY...
> Date: Thursday, October 02, 1997 6:48 AM
>
> At 01:20 AM 10/2/97 -0400,RickPurv("rp") wrote:
>
> (^so? pass out fer fun... 'k?
>
> rp>Hmmm......i'm not getting in the middle of this one.....nope, wouldn't
touch
> rp>it with a 12 foot strand of DNA.....
>
> (^well, HOT,DAMnnn!! you ARE pickin' up the'drifters!
>
> rp>.hell, i'm off to find the Gates to the Garden of Eden
> rp>.......Missouri was it?....hear they have good apples there......
>
> (^thanks fer th' save, rick. I couldn't move fast enough.
>
> >know anything about that Serpent?......then i'm off to
> >the 7 Cities of Gold
> >
>
> (^I sent a drifty poing piece via 0ri^...to the list.
> (^It'll show when sHe catches it..
> (^thanks fer playing tripster in the catfight.
>
> (^as I said before, breaking it up without getting whalloped
> (^is for weavers, only.
>
> (^...welcome to backstage!
> (^hee.he.she.1T!
>
> (^..t-1 connection, evening... oddspits..
> (^just read the send , ok? don't quit just because there are long silent
spaces.
> (^those were thrown in to protect those not ready for it...
>
> (^you seem to at least know how to tickle the boxers.
>
> >you.....discernment is a nice quality to develop though.....don't ask me
how,
> >it always seemed to
> >come naturally for me
>
> (^funny.. It seems that the reason I'm offlimits for direct sending to the
list
> (^as in choose to send via others, now)
> (^has to do with the order of thread appearances.
> (^rick? re-direct this send to the list when you deem it ok to.
> (^like, uh.. after the fireworks that MAY accidentally ensue over the send
> (^I sent through ori^?
> (^right now, you hold this one at bay, ok?
>
>
> >
> rp>Should i insult the Pleidians too? OK........you all can yell at me now
if
> rp>you want.....too much Newton,
>
> (^and not enough laughing boy budHaha... yes.
> (^both sat under trees to get smacked in the head with different
mindspirts.
>
> (^..I actually storytell a piece about buddha trying to discover the law of
> gravety,
> (^but botched itby sitting under the wrong kind of tree...
>
> (^..and endeded up laughing at himself for being so stupid..
>
> (^..."hey.. what am I doing?... this is .pp ppu p upOINTless!! YES!
hahahaha.
>
> rp>or something......but otherwise lighten
> (^><t'h T cup up........sheesh.
>
> (^..care for some sugarlumps widdit?
>
> (^...mua.
>
Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 21:59:23 -0400 (EDT)
From: Engy989ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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Date: Thu, 2 Oct 1997 22:26:59 -0400
From: "Ed Arrons" <eeaATnospamaug.com>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Word-based Spirituality
Message-Id: <199710030227.WAA03354ATnospamsandia.aug.com>

In the beginning was the WORD.....?

There is a spirituality based on direct experience of the Oneness and
one based on the image-producing power of words.

Because of our fragmented conditioning a full direct experience of the
Oneness is extremely difficult to achieve. But very likely, we may all
have minute direct experiences of It, consciously or otherwise. As we
seek ways to facilitate that experience more fully, we get involved
with words and images that will hopefully point the way.

The words can have so much power, the images so resolute in one's mind,
that it may sometimes seem as if the person is having a direct experience
and living in the actuality of it. This makes it easy to avoid seeking direct
experience; then one may readily slip into the world of words and their
images, letting them shape the aggregate of their reality.

But we all know that words lend themselves to a perplexing ambiguity
which often leads to conflicts of understanding and much human
suffering.

Zen understands the limitation of word-based spirituality and opts for
direct experience of the Oneness. I'm sure Jesus had the same idea
in stating (n.v.): find ye first the kingdom of God and all things shall be
added unto thee.

Have that direct experience and fulfill your potential.
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 19:35:47 -0700
From: Ken McFarland <kenmATnospamOREGON.UOREGON.EDU>
To: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: reality & fantasy
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At 08:52 AM 10/2/97 -0700, E Jason wrote:

>God does not walk away and only someone with God like qualities
> has no choice. The Sun shines on good and bad without discrimintation.
>You or I would walk away. Some people have stronger resolve.
>Do they choose?
>Does God dictate? You choose?
>
>Do they?

"Going a little farther, he fell to the ground and prayed that if possible
the hour might pass him. 'Abba, Father,' he said, 'everything is possible
for you. Take this cup from me. YET NOT WHAT I WILL, BUT WHAT YOU WILL."

What was his choice?

Sincerely Seeking,
Ken
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 19:35:49 -0700
From: Ken McFarland <kenmATnospamOREGON.UOREGON.EDU>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: DNA
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Dear Friends,

If your are really interested in DNA and the genes carried therein see the
Human Genome Project at:

http://www.ornl.gov/hgmis/tko/

Or

http://www.er.doe.gov/production/ober/hug_top.html

For me, the double helix represents the triune force that is one level away
from God. It is the physical manifestation of Spirit and Soul on the eartly
plane with the third, invisible element being the devine essence of God -
Love. According to the universal Laws of Three, the ultimate state is Unity
- The Absolute - God. At the first level away from God, the forces may also
be characterized as active, passive, and neutral or Holy Affirming, Holy
Denying, and Holy Neutralizing, or Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, or Brahma,
Shiva, and vishnu, Sat-Chit-Ananda, or the double helix imbedded with the
Divine Essence. "Without the neutralizing force, active and passive forces
stand in useless ppostition and nothing new can emerge, but when this third
force is present, active and passive forces can join and produce results"
(Gurdjieff, 1975).

According to the Law of Three, the greater the complexity, the more laws
involved, the farther we are from God. The next level would be six (three
doubled). Beyond six lies twelve. The distance from God is increasing in a
non-linear progression. Twelve laws are not as near to God as six laws, and
twelve laws are certainly not as near to God as three (two plus the divine
component).

I am really glad I have the double helix.


Sincerely Seeking,
Ken
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 19:49:45 -0700
From: Ken McFarland <kenmATnospamOREGON.UOREGON.EDU>
To: GoodwulfeATnospamaol.com
Cc: wh982ATnospamfreenet.victoria.bc.ca, Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Changing our DNA? INDEEDY...
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At 04:26 PM 10/2/97 -0400, GoodwulfeATnospamaol.com wrote:

> I was seriously considering removing myself from this List, but now
>that I know you're here, well, I think I just might stick around.

Kelly, please stick around.
There are many on this list who love you more than you could possibly know.

Sincerely Seeking,
Ken
Date: Thu, 02 Oct 1997 19:59:33 PDT
From: "Tom S" <t_shermanATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: A Question?
Message-ID: <19971003025933.1342.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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Dear Kundalini mailing list,
I was wondering if anyone would know of some information on Christ Jesus
and Kundalini? Thankyou
     Sincerely
  Thomas

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