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kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #447


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 447

Today's Topics:
  RE: Charity - Give 'em a choice
  hello
  Re: Anon New Member
  Monster Nun.
  Re: hello
  Re: hello
  Anon New Member
  Re: Knowing laughter
  Akashic records
  100th Monkey Business
  Re: 100th Monkey Business
  Re: Akashic records
  Re: Akashic records
  Re: Charity - Give 'em a choice
  Re: 100th Monkey Business
  re: Monster Nun.
  cool positngs
  Re: 100th Monkey Business
  Re: 100th Monkey Business
  I am the full moon
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 17:49:03
From: Debee <hinhanATnospaminwave.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: RE: Charity - Give 'em a choice
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970915174903.0b5f56e2ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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>4. Instinctively, my approach is to *Get alongside people* and listen.
This is the *undivided attention* you refer to. Good listening and open
questioning can help to get people to identify and clarify things all by
themselves in a pretty natural way. Then what...? Please excuse the
military terminology, but a flexible response is needed. There are plenty
of techniques and experiences in the armoury and many ways to skin a cat.
>Thanks for reading....
>
>
>This is not the end: it is not even the beginning of the end. It is
perhaps the end of the beginning.
>

This method, to me, is one of the very best. It's easier to verbally work
things out and it's helpful to have an attentive ear. Thoughts tend to
consume our minds if we allow them to and it's very difficult to sort
through things. When we have an attentive, non-jugemental ear to sound off
on, we are better able to work through things much more quickly. It's also
helpful if the attentive ear isn't one which constantly interjects his/her
own feelings and experiences but rather waits until asked or asks questions
of a searching nature or merely to help clarify things so they may gain a
better understanding of what is going on. I don't know about other people,
but for me, an attentive ear is very important. It's a way of saying *I
care* to someone and also of saying *You are worth listening to because you
are important as are your feelings*. It's not a matter of wanting or
needing someone to agree or disagree. It's just a matter of taking some
time to listen. Actions have always spoken louder than words. Talking is
very easy but to be silent, listen, and give your undivided attention is a
greater challenge. It's not something we see a great deal of today and it's
something to consider strengthening within our daily lives. Take a moment
and try to remember a time when something was very important to you and you
sought to talk to someone about it. Remember how it felt when the other
person belittled what you had to say or felt. How did it feel when they
constantly told you what they themselves would or would not do. Think of
these things and keep them in mind the next time someone needs an ear to
listen.

Blessed Be

Debee
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 17:51:30
From: Abby <abbyATnospamhinet.co.za> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: hello
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My name ...well u can call me Abigail
I have for many years felt a yearning for the unknown...well ...the
world that we forget...when we just focus on the reality world...where
we must go to school...then get a job...and bring up kids...a whole
routine
I am not satisfied with my life...i want to learn...and understand...my
friend is ...well a ...witch...sort of...he into certain types of
magic...some of them i do not agree with...but because to me...each
person..has there own oppion...and interests..and that one is his..
I want to learn so much in the world...i have tried different methods to
meditate...but each time...my mind just wonders of....ack...my mind is
very weird...like most people would beable to sit down and lisen...while
i...one half would be lisening and the other would be interested in
another conversation at another table...y i really do not know..i really
need to get my mind in order...and to relax...I just want someones
oppion and help...
from a person in need
Abigail
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 17:49:43
From: Susanne Macrae <smacraeATnospamcamtech.net.au> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Anon New Member
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970915174943.0c2ffac4ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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Hi there anon,

you said
 "an anonymous sub-list where people can deal with thoughts rather than
expressions of ego, which persons names refer to. I believe it might
reduce the tendency for personal attacks, defensiveness, judgementalism
and self righteousness."................

We had names as a means of identification before we took on board the
ego. In the times and places where we lived in the same physical body
for hundreds of years no ego self existed. The ego expression of an
individual comes in many different guises. The anonymous can and do act
judgementally, self righteously, attacking and defending. The voyeur or
peeping tom is a good example.

Some use anonymity to hide behind and find they can be more critical,
judgemental etc if they think no-one knows who they are. E.g. letters
to Editors in newspapers and magazines, secret ballots.

I don't think it matters whether someone chooses to remain anonymous
or chooses to reveal their name on this list. If it is your soul's
intent to transcend and transmute the ego, you will come from that point
regardless of who knows your name.
 
The letters N A M E also form the word MEAN. There are many different
meanings to the word MEAN. One of them is "in the middle, neither one
extreme nor the other" So names in themselves are not ego reflective -
it is all about how they are used in the soul's ego expression.

Love,
sue
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 17:52:48
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Monster Nun.
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  When I was a very tiny child, before prechool, I used to have these
wickedly scary dreams about this giant monster supernatural Nun. This Nun
was like nothing in my waking life, a huge black shadow being that could
streach to enormous heights, enfold people in her terrifying habit and make
them disappear, squeeze them into nothing.. The more frightened I was of
Her, the more awesomely terrifying she became. I would wake from these
dreams seeing monsters in every shadow, and see them by even staring at a
blank wall.. it seemed like they followed me out of the dream.
  During the time I was having these nightmares, my older sister came home
from Catholic elementary school crying that one of the Nuns teaching had
scolded her cruelly, "Bit her head off", as she put it.. she frightened me,
and this gave the Monster Nun in my Dreams something new to do: Bite
people's heads off.. I expected to meet the scary Nun in real life when I
started school!! Yikes! After a while I learned to approach the Nun with
Prefect trust: when I did that, she was really nice, and she'd show me
things?? Fuzzy memory.. then the dreams changed, and I was the Monster
Shadow Nun, and terrifying people and biting their heads off.. I didn't
want to, but that was what the nun did.. I tried to tell the tiny people to
to be scared of me and I would not have to bite them.. but they could not
understand the strange roaring voice of the Monster Nun. The dreams became
too much for me to handle, and I prayed for "No bad dreams every night till
they stopped.
  At this time, I was also playing an interesting game with myself to fall
asleep, which I have only recently discovered the truth of: I never told
anyone about it, coz I didn't think it unusual till recently.
  I would play with the golden light in my head, trying to calm my thoughts
enough to make it glow evenly. Fearful or nervous thoughts would make it
crack into fragments, blackness, uncomfortable. Good game to pass the time
trying to fall asleep in the dark, eh?
  It wasn't till some folks wrote to this list to complain about a light in
their head, keeping them awake, and recieved explanations that it was the
chakra opening, that I twigged to what I had actually been playing with, in
my head, in my crib.. 'oly cow!
  (I was 4th child, the house was running out of room for beds, so I slept
in a crib till I literally outgrew it, and Dad renovated the bedroom into
bunkbeds for the 3 girls. I liked it, climbing in and out of the crib by
myself was like having monkey bars to play on in the bedroom. It was also
fun to get a screwdriver and start to take it apart...)
  So realizing the significance of the light I saw in my head as a
preschool child, made me really begin to wonder more about that Killer
Nun.. she was too real and strange to be a child's imagination.. what was
she? And what about the kaliedescope moving op-art patterns I would get
behind my eyelids sometimes??
  I asked my K. to direct me to some info..
  I just finished reading a book called "Spiritwalker", by a Doctor in
Hawaii who spontaneously started Shamaic journeying into a self 5000 years
into the future.
  In his description of the behavior and appearance of the "Portal
Guardian", that guards the Doorway to the Shamanic Realm, I found my
Monster Shadow Nun. She has appeared in neolithic cave paintings around the
world, a big squarish black shadow with a tiny head, and sometimes white
eyes, sometimes a big white cross on the front. She is the shadow aspect of
the self, and so I became her, in the later dreams.
  In paintings, she is usually surrounded or associated with patterns of
coecentric dots. Like Australian Dreamtime paintings.. the kaliedescope
behind my eyelids. The scientist types call them "Phosphene" patterns, a
common effect of shamanic hallucinogens.. the portal itself.
  
  On the weekend, I mentioned my discovery to a close friend, who is a
fully awakened genuine Fijian Warrior Princess (! Cool, eh?) and showed her
the pictures, and she recognized the portal Guardian from her own childhood
dreams! Her experience was different: a more confident child, she became
such good friends with the Guardian, she really looked forward to going to
sleep every night.

  So now I am really wondering, how common is this experience? Is every
child's closet monster, really the Portal Guardian of the dreamtime?
 Blessings, Serpent.

Mystress Angelique Serpent,
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
      :D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
  Swami Beyondananda on the Golden Rule: "It seems that when
masochists do unto others as they wish to be done unto, they
become sadists," the Swami said. "Consequently, the Golden Rule
has been recalled by the Maker until this design flaw can be fixed."
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 19:41:44 +0100
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com>
To: "Abby (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)" <abbyATnospamhinet.co.za>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: hello
Message-ID: <341D8166.73CFATnospamintercomm.com>

Abby (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent ) wrote:
>
>

Abby,
The world you speak of you actually do attend at night in sleep, so it
isn't like you totally lose your connection to the other side. That
yearning is because you maintain some awareness of memory of it. Don't
fight it, just learn to find balance.

> I am not satisfied with my life...i want to learn...and understand...my
> friend is ...well a ...witch...sort of...he into certain types of
> magic...some of them i do not agree with...but because to me...each
> person..has there own oppion...and interests..and that one is his..
> I want to learn so much in the world...i have tried different methods to
> meditate...but each time...my mind just wonders of....ack...my mind is
> very weird...like most people would beable to sit down and lisen...while
> i...one half would be lisening and the other would be interested in
> another conversation at another table...y i really do not know..i really

GG
There are many paths out there, go inside and ask what it is your
looking for, if you really want to know God and make a direct inner
relationship, that requires a commitment to God, willingness to learn
about detachment, and the will to discipline yourself on many levels of
your experience.

Meditation is a key factor in the learning process, you use it to slow
down the mind, to raise your frequency in the mind/body, and to align
with divine will. There is much to learn, it is a lifetime process. If
it is important to you, nothing will stand in your way. Gloria
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 23:35:43 -0400
From: imtgATnospamjuno.com (tg xxx)
To: abbyATnospamhinet.co.za
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: hello
Message-ID: <19970915.233543.15310.5.imtgATnospamjuno.com>

Abigail wrote...
<<i have tried different methods >to>meditate...but each time...my mind
just wonders of....ack...my mind is>very weird...like most people would
beable to sit down and >lisen...while>i...one half would be lisening and
the other would be interested in>another conversation at another
table...y i really do not know..i
>really>need to get my mind in order...and to relax...I just want
someones
>oppion and help...>>

Meditation is like speaking with others...

Do you listen to what they say?
Do you observe and watch their words?
Are you always interrupting?
Does your mind wander to what you will say next?
Do you really care what they have to say?

What is it you want to occur in your meditation?
Is it to learn to listen?
Then give the gift of listening to others.

Is it to quieten your mind?
Then give the gift of truly listening
to what others have to say
without interruption.

If you practice in *real life*
what you want in your meditation,
then that is what you will get
easily when you sit with Self!

Again, seems like a good theory...
xxxtg

"The Opening of the Third Ear: Listening to People Talk Behind Your
Back"

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 23:30:34 -0400
From: imtgATnospamjuno.com (tg xxx)
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Anon New Member
Message-ID: <19970915.233543.15310.4.imtgATnospamjuno.com>

>>The letters N A M E also form the word MEAN. There are many different
meanings to the word MEAN. One of them is "in the middle, neither one
extreme nor the other" So names in themselves are not ego reflective -
it is all about how they are used in the soul's ego expression.>>

The letters N A M E also form the word A M E N ..... which means to
express approval, or the ending of a prayer...

Amen,
xxxgt

REIGN CHECK: The new Emperor was a very gentle man who loved all wild
animals. But when he allowed the animals to run loose all over his
domain,
the people became annoyed and overthrew the Emperor. That was the first
time
in history that the reign was called on account of the game.

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Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 19:38:16 -0700
From: J P Flarity <joeATnospamflarity.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Knowing laughter
Message-ID: <341DF118.630DATnospamflarity.com>

E Jason wrote:
>
> J P Flarity wrote:
>
> > >You want to get to know me and I want you to know the Divine.
> >
> > IS THERE A DIFFERENCE?
>
> Yes - most definitely yes. I am part of the Divine. The Divine is within
> each of us. Being Divine is not possible in a sense other than this. One
> can immerse or merge with the knowing of the Divine. One is never God in
> the same sense that God is Divine.
>
Dear Lobster,

Such a limitation you bear. I will attribute it to your extraordinary
humility and practice of constant ego suppression. We are in different
places here. This is good because I am uneasy in crowds.

I see the Divinity of roaches
scurrying along the baseboard

Of madmen screaming in anger
as his steel atoms drink

The wheel of life turns
and every bat blink
is part of it.

Our ignorance and loneliness
is God stretching
looking for more

laughter

So hurry if you must Lobster
one can never be sure just how long
eternity will last.

laughing,

joe
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 1997 22:16:17 -0700
From: ori^ <oriATnospameskimo.com>
To: Susanne Macrae <smacraeATnospamcamtech.net.au>
Cc: Kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Akashic records
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Hi Sue,
Sounds like much opened up for you when the k started to awaken.
I am interested in your experiences with the Akashic Records
and how they first began to appear to you, and how you came to
realize that what you were reading were the Akashic Records.
Can you read your own, as well as others?

In light,
ori^

>Kundalini has shown me the Akashic Records and I read them for others.
>ALL of those people I know experiencing Kundalini have experienced in
>their past some healing, contact or touch from the man who was Jesus.

******
* ori^ *
* <mailto: oriATnospameskimo.com> *
* http://www.eskimo.com/~ori/ori.html *
******
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 02:10:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: 100th Monkey Business
Message-ID: <970916021047_502518891ATnospamemout11.mail.aol.com>

In a message dated 97-09-11 13:22:41 EDT, you write:

<< At that time, "hundredth monkey effect" will occur: a vibrational wave
 of enlightenment energy will move through the entire planet and its
 population, >>

Periodically I see references to the 100th monkey phenomenon on this list, so
I just wanted to share with you that, despite its seemingly universal appeal,
I have not relied on this concept as a certainty. When I originally read of
the study, I loved the idea that once enough members of a species learned
something new, that the remaining members would learn automatically, or at
least more easily. However, I then read several analyses of the study that
essentially said that the study was half-assed and that the phenomenon never
really occurred. Sorry that I don't have my sources at my fingertips and
that I'm not sufficiently motivated to track them down at the moment. But I
think it's important to realize that the 100th monkey idea is controversial
at best, even though we seem to want it to be true for various reasons.
 Maybe someone else knows of another example that illustrates the theory.

Peg
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 01:31:18
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: 100th Monkey Business
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970916013118.08779e68ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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At 02:10 16/09/97 -0400, PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com wrote:
> But I
>think it's important to realize that the 100th monkey idea is controversial
>at best, even though we seem to want it to be true for various reasons.
> Maybe someone else knows of another example that illustrates the theory.
>
>Peg
>
  The hundredth monkey theroy has been pretty well debunked, but I use it
as a metaphor, because I think it has a metaphorical truth.. a better
example is how often things are invented or discovered simultaneously in
widely separate geographical areas.
  Alexander Graham Bell beat Runner up #2 to the patent office by hours,
for inventing the telephone.. the French and the Germans each have a
differing opinion than the Americans about who invented the airplane. There
are more examples, particularly in the fields of medicine and physics.
  The diference tho, is the K. energy itself, it is more than info about
washing a potato, and it has means of contagion beyond any other "virus".
(No disrespect to Goddess intended.. she created viruses, too. As above, so
below, the saying goes..)
  When a lower vibration person is among higher vibration folks, they will
be lifted by proximity. Prayer heals over distance, no matter what the
religion. It is this effect that makes the metaphor of the 100th monkey,
"True", when applied to awakening.
  The truth comes in the cave paintings that are similar all over the
world. Why? Because we are one, and some ideas are contagious beyond
physical logic.
   Blessings, Serpent.

Mystress Angelique Serpent,
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
      :D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
  Swami Beyondananda on the Golden Rule: "It seems that when
masochists do unto others as they wish to be done unto, they
become sadists," the Swami said. "Consequently, the Golden Rule
has been recalled by the Maker until this design flaw can be fixed."
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 01:46:00
From: "Lisa Marie (Of Tom n' Lisa)" <efs2dayATnospampe.net> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Akashic records
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970916014600.1e1741f4ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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very cool
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 03:03:31
From: Indra <indraATnospamsmartt.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Akashic records
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970916030331.1e17d5d6ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hello!
I would like to hear a wee bit more on Akashic Records than what has been
shared on this post.

Thanks,
indraATnospamsmartt.com

ori^ wrote:

> Hi Sue,
> Sounds like much opened up for you when the k started to awaken.
> I am interested in your experiences with the Akashic Records
> and how they first began to appear to you, and how you came to
> realize that what you were reading were the Akashic Records.
> Can you read your own, as well as others?
>
> In light,
> ori^

> ******
> * ori^ *
> * <mailto: oriATnospameskimo.com> *
> * http://www.eskimo.com/~ori/ori.html *
> ******
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 03:02:37
From: Indra <indraATnospamsmartt.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Charity - Give 'em a choice
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970916030237.08bf5d16ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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  Hello!

Listening with attentiveness , I feel is most important in today's fast life
world.
It allows us to communicate effectively and provides room for our self
improvement in all sphere of life.
I appreciate Debbie's answer above, so much that I saved it as a reference.

In L & L

Indra from Richmond, B.C. Canada
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 08:57:35 -0400
From: imtgATnospamjuno.com (tg xxx)
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: 100th Monkey Business
Message-ID: <19970916.085736.13742.3.imtgATnospamjuno.com>

<< Maybe someone else knows of another example that illustrates the
theory.

I don't know if this qualifies as the 100th Monkey business, but I've
come to realize that when I learn something, everyone else must learn it
too....

For instance, when something or someone irritates me outside of myself,
that is a red flag for me to look within -- I realize that I have just
projected a part of myself, ie. "I'm not guilty of that - THEY are."

Once I have my own guilt corrected, then I stop projecting it outside
myself, and there is no one left to irritate me anymore on that
particular subject. (well, at least until the next time I feel guilty
about something else).

Maybe that is not true learning, but a form of projection and perception.
 But maybe the 100th Monkey theory is based on this form of perception in
some way?? (still theorizing)...

xxxtg

Anagrams:
. Hundredth Monkey Theory - They undertook herd hymn
. Perception - Open, Rip, etc.
. Perception - Optic Preen

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Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 08:55:42 -0500 (CDT)
From: hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: re: Monster Nun.
Message-Id: <199709161355.IAA16965ATnospamdfw-ix4.ix.netcom.com>

Angelique, your theory about closet monsters being portal guardians is
fantastic! Most children between 5-10 become extremely
"superstitious," and spontaneously develop rituals. I know I did in
order to deal with an extremely intense dreamlife AND with "knowings" I
was getting from God while growing up in a family that was mostly
atheist. It never occurred to me to link the light and dark together
before I read your post. Thanks so much! Love, Holly
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 10:24:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: DouglasMFATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: cool positngs
Message-ID: <970916102227_640047495ATnospamemout05.mail.aol.com>

hey list members,

this querey is for two postings i read that i really liked alot and want more
information about. The first was the lady who said that she had been taught
a variety of hand gestures and mantras as well as several techniques passed
down from above. I really want more details on this as this is definitely
something that should be passed on to us. And the second thing that i
thought was really cool was about the akashic (sp?) records....i really am
interested in hearing more about this as well. I'm sorry I don't know who
wrote about these but i'm sure the people out there reading this will :)
Thanks for your patience.

the final peace completes the whole
-d
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 13:39:38 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: 100th Monkey Business
Message-ID: <341EC45A.31F2ATnospammail.snet.net>

PEGLUMPKINATnospamaol.com wrote:
> But I
> think it's important to realize that the 100th monkey idea is controversial
> at best, even though we seem to want it to be true for various reasons.
> Maybe someone else knows of another example that illustrates the theory.

Quoting from the book "The Lucid Dreamer" by Malcolm Godwin:

"Experiments have shown that when scientists attempt to create crystals
from a new substance, it takes an inordinate length of time. But once
one
batch has been created, it appears to become progressively easier to
create
the crystals even when the laboratory experiments are in totally
different
geographical locations. Once something has been created, whether it is a
new
organism, or a new idea, a habit field also comes into being."

I'd note that no specific experiments regarding this phenomena were
cited.
Anyone heard of this?

David
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 11:38:32
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Subject: Re: 100th Monkey Business
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David Bozzi wrote:

> Quoting from the book "The Lucid Dreamer" by Malcolm Godwin:
>
> "Experiments have shown that when scientists attempt to create
> crystals
> from a new substance, it takes an inordinate length of time. But once
> one
> batch has been created, it appears to become progressively easier to
> create
> the crystals even when the laboratory experiments are in totally
> different
> geographical locations. Once something has been created, whether it is
> a
> new
> organism, or a new idea, a habit field also comes into being."
>
> I'd note that no specific experiments regarding this phenomena were
> cited.
> Anyone heard of this?
>
> David

Hello David,

A common principle in physics off vibrations, called the "law off
resonance" combined in magnetic with the "principle of remittance" could
very well explain, accordingly to "modern science", the object of the
citation. For us to observe the process on crystals by mean of science,
I think, it would be necessary to go to quantum level. And for that, our
minds are better instrument that anyone man as yet created in this
century (to my knowledge).

Here is a page on "The law off resonance" applied in meditation:

http://www.spiritweb.org/Spirit/Yoga/law-resonance.html

We could say, that by the same principle, in a restrictive way, as more
and more people become enlighten, it will become more and more easier
for the others to become enlighten.

Peace, Love and Light

Antoine Carre
In the process of a K awakening..
Electrical engineer
Montreal, Canada

--
Antoine Carré
http://www.concentric.net/~acarre/
Date: Tue, 16 Sep 1997 11:39:37
From: "The Langdons" <langdonATnospamnetsites.net> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: I am the full moon
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Dear All,
I have enjoyed immensely all the e-mil we have received, and thought I
would relay what a heightened awareness you divine souls have brought to
me. It reminds me that once the seeds are planted, the rain does
wonders. After reading some letters and the kundalini web site, I have
had vivid dreams, clear, beautiful spiritual dreams. I am also 37 weeks
pregnant and have waited this entire pregnancy to get to a clear psychic
place; and now, I soar! I am the full moon; I feel this glorious white
light emmanating from my womb. My husband/partner/soulmate and I are
blessed to be able to have a homebirth with two wonderful wise
women/midwives. We are also blessed to be living in a beautiful home out
in the woods, and I have visions of laboring outside under the trees,
feeling the power of the Earth under me, feeling one with all that is, was,
will ever be. The birthing experience is a powerful one, I feel the
energy radiating from me. It is my greatest hope that this "birthright"
will be returned to its spiritual, HOLY, origins.

Deep Peace,

Medea

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