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kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #426


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 426

Today's Topics:
  fable
  Re: page from my diary
  Re: life imitates melodrama, dammit
  Re: Aerobics+Prana
  Unidentified subject!
  hee he.she.1T!#01: what.... is... love science?
  Re: Emotional resistance
  Re: videography help
  recent topics
  Kundalini Help
  Re: women developing strength
  Re: Princess Di
  Re: Ayurvedic???
  Re: i see what your thinking:)
  ghost.
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 13:16:34
From: "Sergio Lucio Maria" <sergiomariaATnospammiranet.com.br> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: fable
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___Galeria to Be, it Shines and Mar___
 sergiomariaATnospammiranet.com.br
____Sergio Lúcio Maria______ http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/2979 /

The LABYRINTH OF THE THEORIES

  Certain time they told us an interesting fable. The goat and the crab
longed
for to go up mountain to know as it would be the life in those heights and
which the panorama that if how is there. They separated resolved they
execute it what one had promised.
  Taking courage the goat is disposed to go up the difficult encosta of the

mountain. With a lot of effort and tenacity, the goat went winning the
obstacles of the aclive and after some time it was posted soaring in the
cimo
of the rock.
  For its time, the crab went to a great puddle of it dilutes where he was
reflected the image of the mountain and went place exactly in the reflex of
the
summit. In that position it was supposed in the top of the mountain. He
was convicted of having executed the promise what it was that reflex that
had always referred.
  To go up the mountain means to run off with the superior dimensions and
the
initiate resembles each other the goat that fights for winning the
difficulties
of the escalade. The measure that the initiate is going moving forward, its

conscience is going becoming wider.
  The crab represents the frank student that he/she/it lets to deceive for
the reflex of the divine wisdom, that he/she/it lets to involve for the
beautiful theories maids for the Prince of this World(ego). Really, the ego

creates in this world a reflex of the mountain journey, initiations
journey. They were founded
organizations whose symbolic initiations are just good to honor with occult

titles the pupils' vanity that he/she/it lets to deceive for its theories.
  As and much easier to imitate the crab, we have thousands of theories and

ideas based on the sacred texts nowadays.
  In the interior of that entangled of theories, it was prisoner its own
inventor: the PRINCE OF THIS WORLD, the Psychological Ego, that devours all

incautious that finds for the runners. For we escape from this labyrinth we

have to find that thread that is uncoiled from the entrance and that marks
the
right direction for among the confusion of passages. THAT SAVING THREAD is
GNOSTICISM.

  This text was found in a small book of called " pocket THE Prince Of this

World " of Samael Aun Weor.
  I would say ties that this hey the task that totally depends on the
internal
work to discover the truth hey the to reach the top of the mountain
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 06:46:22 +0500 (GMT+0500)
From: "S.R.Peswani" <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
To: Sergio Lucio Maria <sergiomariaATnospammiranet.com.br>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: page from my diary
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On Mon, 1 Sep 1997, Sergio Lucio Maria wrote:

>
> I am of Brazil. I have been accompanying this list and I would like to
> know:
>
> 1 what is kalapas?
> 2 who is Deepak Chopra?
>
>
> Therefore I will order some texts of Master Samael, that soon you will know
> about him.
>
>
 kalapas are sub-atomic particles . Our astral body or mind or ego
consists of billions of these kalapas in various formations and records
our karmas.
 Deepak Chopra... Afamous author whom I have not read. I hope
someone else answers you
ram
Date: Tue, 2 Sep 1997 21:11:53 -0400
From: "Rick Puravs" <ric51ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net>
To: "M " <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: life imitates melodrama, dammit
Message-Id: <199709030111.VAA19278ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net>

Hi M,

i wrote.....>Certainly the media manipulates/is manipulated to pass on
certain images,
>certain
>standards.....and whom does this serve?
>So we have boys who will never make it to the NBA wanting to "be like
>Mike", and
>girls who will never look like Cindy Crawford suffering from low-self
>esteem. Whom
>does this serve?

you wrote......"Serves absolutely no one."

I think it serves someone......certainly the rich keep their wealth,
the powerful keep their
power.....at the expense of others. What i wonder is what is behind the
outward face of
it all. Is there something that goes back centuries, even milleniums,
still trying to call
the tune? People can say and do what they want as long as they aren't
too visible, but
if a lot of people start listening to them, seems they get crushed.
Doesn't serve you
or me, or most likely the people we know does it?

A spiritual war between good and evil? Some form of Gnosticism?
Zoroastrianism?
Do these concepts have validity? Or are they just an illusion in the
Unity of All and
None?

Yes.....the question of what we can do? Start with ourselves and
increase our vibration to the point where we know we are of service and
not just whistling in the
wind. Then take action.....by then we should know what we have to do.
Take on the
way of life of a Bodhisattva. Perhaps then the path will come to us.

Rick

PS are my HTML trailers gone now?
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 10:46:38 +0500 (GMT+0500)
From: "S.R.Peswani" <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
To: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
Cc: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Aerobics+Prana
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On Tue, 2 Sep 1997, David Bozzi wrote:

    No , there is no relation between high intensity aerobic activity and
prana.
 Inhaling or exhaling accompanied by the awareness of mind throught the
body is the first step. And at some stage if you are clearly able to feel
to extent of seeing your whole inside of body of karmas. It is an
awareness that whole body is breathing and obstruction of dense karmas is
also felt. Prana energy is one form of seeing your astral body

ram
 Any
correlation
between high intensity aerobic activity and > > intake of prana?
>
> One consumes 15-20 times more air while aerobically engaged.
>
> I can attest to the obvious emotional benefit.
>
> But is my karma purifying at an accelerated rate when I exercise?
>
>
>
> David
>
>
Date: Wed, 3 Sep 1997 10:59:09 +0500 (GMT+0500)
From: "S.R.Peswani" <peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in>
To: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Cc: kalpana somai <krsomaiATnospamhotmail.com>
Subject: Unidentified subject!
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 My first vippassana meditation experience at Igatpuri
 

 When I had turned fifty , I reviewed back my life, I found that
whatever I had achieved gave me no satisfaction except that I have been
doing my duty towards members of my family , in the sense that they had
all the wordly comforts as well as all the saf ety that money could
provide and my childern were well educated so that they can stand on their
feet. But negative points were that I had bad relationship with my wife
and her relatives, my health was very bad , weakness and old age was
approaching and my
 four childern were yet to be married .I strongly felt that time was
running out on me and this life had not achieved worthwhile.
 So I took a decision for next five years .
 One:- that before five years are out I should hand over factories
to my son if he comes back from America or sell them and get out of
running a business, no more earning money.
 Two:- I should get my four childern married.
 Three :-I should give attention to my health .
 Four :-I should search if some thing like God or after life is
there. Five:- That my business should have last priority for these five
years before opting out.
 These decisions were stuck to by me for next five years . I did
regular swimming running and trecking etc. This improved my health to some
extent. My son came back from America and I opted out of business .My
childern were married except for my son who w as delaying his marriage of
his own accord. I visited almost all the important temples , churches all
over India and Europe , and prayed , that if there is god , He may save my
soul , if I have a soul. I could be called a atheist who was searching for
ans wers.I read religious books and met and spent lots of time with saints
and had talks with them. I went to Himalayas and spent time in caves and
with fakirs at Gangotri. Ate my food whatever was offered, wore purple
clothes and wore malas.
 Two months before five years were completed and I was to become 55
years old I got the answer to my inquiries on 5th July 92 at Igatpuri in
vipassana meditation course. Answers that opened my way for remaining life
time work as per my own satisfaction.
 The answers that gave me utmost satisfaction were as follows:
First:- God or no God , one gets fruits of his karmas and the method is
very scientific which has survived through nature experimenting for
Billions of years at Billions of Universes and with
 Billions of lives . We record our karmas through kalapas in our body as
per our actions and thoughts every instant and they play back and give
their rewards at a suitable time. This was a very important decision for
me. I could believe in evolution or su rvival but not in God.
 This karma theory explained many questions satisfactorily and
there was no need to assume that some body was book-keeping . However
powerful and all prevading God may be ,I was not accepting till then that
he will be watching and recording us all the ti me. And if there are no
perfect records , why should one observe morals , and why will there be
after life or any life after death.
 Second answer gave me still more satisfaction that Guatam Buddha
had first time told about these kalapas and he has also scientifically
explained a method by which one can clear his old karmas or change them ,
thereby one can change his nature of hatred , jealousy etc which caused
pain to love friendship with all etc, which caused happiness.
 Third that an ordinary human being could change himself into God
,like Guatam did if he follows and understands the nature and its
evolution. One need not have faith in God or soul or miracles.
  This vippasana course started on 30th June 92 . By 5th July after
following their method, I had a strong reaction. So much so that the
process continued whole night and intensily. By 3 A.M . I started having
severe pain in my heart. I felt that if this reaction does not stop , my
heart might fail and I might die. So I got up from bed and willed myself
to stop this process by walking at midnight . The process stopped
afterwards and I could get one hour of sleep . That whole day I was
feeling pain in my h eart, even slight jerk caused pain. So I stopped
following the method that day onward, and spent my time thinking happily
that I have got answers and also I have solid purpose for remaining years
of my life, and that my best years are yet to come , in wh ich I shall
accomplish things that will be worth something.
 To this day every moment of life has been worth , I feel fully
satisfied that these four and half years. These have done me more good
than many previous lives . After learning the answers , I have not
followed Igatpuri Vippasana fully . I have changed methods of meditation
as per my inner requirement. I am being guided by my inside Buddhic
knowledge. But surely all the credit goes to Igatpuri and to Vippasana and
to Lord Guatam Buddha.
  Today that is Dec.96 , I beleive that all the religions and
Prophets are correct and every thing in this Universe is going perfectly
well . Nothing but nothing is wrong . Even wars and killers have place in
this universe of ours. All life is but one. My God is in the form of
evolutionised intelligent energy which is surviving aagainst ignorant
chaotic energy of this universe . Life is converting this chaotic
unintelligent energy ( matter is also a form of energy ) into intelligent
energy by evolution and is guided by the Intelligent Energy unerringly and
straight so that we merge in becoming God when we reach our home.
 As we rise up in life birth by birth this lower form of energy and
matter of our earth as seen by our scientists is converted into kalapa
energy by human beings of Astral form. Later it is converted into much
refined and piercing energy in the form of Ca usal body. When ever higher
form of Causal energy confronts kalapa energy , Causal form prevails. Same
way as kalapa energy prevails over our day to day different forms of
energies as well as Atomic energy. If one meditates all diseases which are
due to w ordly energies disperse when causal or Buddhic energy confronts
it. Still higher form of energy will be there after eigth plane. And
probably the evolution has advanced the energy much above to eigth plane
almost nearer to Suniata . Nothing can survive t his Suniata energy .
Every thing that confronts it has to be dissolved in it. But being very
very fine it acts faster if it comes down step by step through life
evolution.
 Today we call our physical body ....I.
 When our mind that is our Astral body is active , we will be
referring the mind as.... I. Mind energy that is kalapa energy is more
prevailing.
 And when we are advanced to Causal body our.... I will go in it,
as that is more prevailing.
 At Buddhic level and than at Atmic level so on so forth.
  Another thing that happens is that as this enegy goes higher and
higher, it interpenetrates (energy of I and you mixes). At Atmic level it
has penetrated into other persons Atmic energy at all times that one
starts forgetting I. Your I , mine I has fad ed to that extent that it is
almost only Atmic energy .
  At Causal level it already left behind hatred enemity etc., at
Buddhic level except for your and I perspective being different from love
, karuna ,maitry and intelligence nothing alse remains . At Atmic level
even they merge and I and you start fading and at eigth plane I and You
disappear completely, and only this energy remains . Energy with
creativeness and love and maitry and karuna etc. (seven forms of pure
colours of white light). That is our home . Or even higher than that . All
life is one .
  Here I am reminded of Bodhisattva Heart Sutra in Pali language.
Gate, gate , par gate , para gate , Bodhi , swaha. It means gone , gone,
gone beyond , gone altogether beyond, O what an awakening , all hail.
    
ram
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 22:12:36
From: brEYEnPR0stir <wakemupATnospameskimo.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: hee he.she.1T!#01: what.... is... love science?
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>>
>>(^lust science=tantric magick exploration
>>(^love science=alternative healing medicine tech..aka prayer/faith healing
>>
>>aNONmoose>bRYEnd, long may you continue to bend my thinking
>>
>>(^..yoiks.. the ebb and flo of electric mind flow currents
>>(^ CAN cause wake'em up pick me ups!((^thanQUE..^))
>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++====
>>(^is ..love....what?
>>
>>JerMcC>> Who's asking, the scientist or the spiritual being on a human
journey?
>>
>>(^who= a human scientist being spiritual on a SOjourn.. asciing.. USe>
>>
>>bren>...so, is love a science, or a mystic journey?
>>
>>(^both.. ALways both. a problem is, the lack of mind parrallel porting.
>>(^toGEThere. in conjuction. simultaneous broadcast.
>>((^*poor old brains..theY keep sub-devidind deviding...
>>(^ left/right channel instead of SENSaround.
>>
>>(^but unless eWE compile and cross difference the data,
>>(^yOur minds/bodies/spirits may never see the moray pattern
>>(^that shows up when mixing messages.
>>
>>bren><hmm, can we com.promise and choose both
>>bren>- maybe even add some extra
>>bren>fields to the above question:
>>
>>(^imperatively thinking, yes.
>>
>> ((^...odd, isn't it? scientists threw the baby out to study the bath
water^))
>>
>>(^if USe want to FIND love.... no matter WHAT it is, (or turns into/out
to be)
>>(^that may be a dirrection to re:search/go into.
>>
>>ken/jen>depends what language you're speaking,
>>ken/jen> the greeks have many words for love.
>>(^.. exACTly!
>>>
>>bren> Creative, Road Sweeper, Soldier, Writer, Librarian, Planner, Web
>>bren> statistician, Engineer, Poet, Software developer, Doctor, Journalist,
>>bren> Musician, Astronaut, Despot, Primitive, Explorer, Physicist,
Tradesman,
>>bren> Shaman, Entertainer, Manager, Role model, Student, Religious leader,
>>bren> Politician, Refuse collector, Philosopher --- and on.
>>
>>bren>Point being, do separate "categories" of individuals "feel" love
>>bren>differently? I doubt this very much.
>>>
>>(^but they sure do exPRESS it differently, don't we all?
>>
>>
>>(^...!....love is..
>>(^an expression.
>>
>>bren>We can love certain music,
>>(^love is a verb
>>
>>bren>paintings
>>(^ a noun, then.
>>
>>bren> but not want to procreate with them.
>>(^.... really? I sculpt.. do you paint and/or play music? why?
>>
>>bren><(.....actually, It's just occurred to me that we CAN
>>bren><in facEt reproduce their influence on USe by creating our own
versions)
>>>
>>>This lends a brand new meaning to the term "reproduction furniture".
>>(^that's my favorite line in this who/le batch send.. YUMM! I... "LOVE"
"it!" ^))
>>
>>(^...and mincing word meat, too. thanks.
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------

>>
>>>...well, it is a WYSIWYG world (for some).
>>(^for those with eyes but no fingers nor ears to feel with: yes.
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>>PM>>God is love.
>>>
>>mixt"><Should we pity other religions, or non-believers?
>>(^"I PITY th'fool.."<cashus clayfeet> for not being able
>>(^ to "love" other religions.
>>>then?
>>(^to "not believe" is a belief system. I'm loving all this!
>>(^pity piety, for pieTYEus sake. love the pIOUs piers, also.
>>
>>(^smile. (add)JUST...ah. smile. a poet. go0DD.
>>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>=<
>>
>>><A happiness(^love) song, moving through lips
>>>sculpted from saccharine kisses........
>>>
>>(^pressX. mua.. a kiss is NEVER but a kiss.
>>
>>aNOthingness><bRYEnd, long may you continue to altEr yOur altAred thAughts.
>>
>>(^....but bending your eyes to the screen is almost as painful as bending
yOur ears.
>>
>>\HITHERE/ - the mud pie man.dlebot.set... game? no points. just a line of
inQUErye.
>>
>
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 22:26:07
From: SchrLLATnospamaol.com (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Emotional resistance
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After my Kundalini rose, my trip in the dentist's chair was amazing. I got so
blisssed out that I almost feel asleep!
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 22:24:15
From: TPp4tATnospamaol.com (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: videography help
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Murphy"s Romance, Die Hard, Ann of Green Gables
  
  A request from List Mystress.. we are wandering off topic..
  Lately have been getting a few folks unsubbing from too much off topic
stuff.. not my ravings, it's the fem movies and the Princess Di threads...
  Much tho I hate to curb your expressions, but could the movie
recommendations be sent to M. directly? This is Kundalini list, I belong to
a cool feminist list I can recommend that would love to discuss this stuff,
it's traffic has been really threadbare lately.
  I don't wanna be a bandwidth dragon, I'm just passing on the opinions of
the folks who are moving on.. Blessings, Serpent.
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 22:13:00
From: Kurt Keutzer <keutzerATnospamsynopsys.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: recent topics
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I've been off traveling for a couple weeks and it looks like a number of
interesting topics have come up. I thought I'd add my $.02 worth on a few
of them. I'm sorry if these have already been worked out:

1) Urge to vomit:

I think that this is a common ``kriya'' so is a related sense of choking.

2) Observation that kundalini is a part of the path and not the goal.

In the bodily manifestation as ``prana kundalini'' kundalini can be seen as
the means but as ``para kundalini'' it can be seen as the goal as well.
More practically I think it's easy to walk into this list and think
``what's the big deal about kundalini?'' but if you ever sit in meditation
one day and have your eyes riveted to the space between the eyebrows as you
feel your consciousness melt and merge to an exploding sun-like energy then
I believe that you'll stop wondering what the big deal is.

3) More info on role of ``bindu''/brahmacarya and it's effect on qi/prana:

There are a number of different models presented in the literature of the
traditions of Chinese Alchemy and kundalini yoga. These traditions are
consistent in the notion that the bindu/jing is transformed at the navel
and then rises as a refined energy up to the higher centers. Personally I
have never had any physical experiences to add light on this particular
model although I have found ``moderation'' an essential part of the path.

4) Angelique as second oldest soul:

I couldn't tell to what extent that this has really been sorted out in the
group and the last thing I'm equipped to do is to pass judgement on someone
else's experience. But since the essence of this group is about personal
perspectives on unusual experiences I thought that I might pass on a few
tests I use whenever I find myself in the grip of a significant and perhaps
all encompassing experience:

1) Am I becoming more flexible or less flexible? Are my attitudes
broadening or narrowing?
2) Am I centered in my experience or overwhelmed by it?
3) Do I feel closer and more compassionate to others or more distant and
alienated from them?

Mangalam,
Kurt
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 23:37:54
From: John Living <jlivingATnospamdirect.ca> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Kundalini Help
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Hi,

I have just joined the Kundalini List, and spent the long weekend
reading all the available archived posts. The vast majority of them are
concerned only with our own problems - which are often many, and this list
is a wonderful place to get help - I, too, am learning from these posts !

Some of the members are using their gifts for helping others in
psychological ways - including Reiki and other healing.

But how many members are using their gifts to help others in normal life ?

By help I mean effort by the individual - excluding prayer, joining to
'make the world better', and the expected healing/psychological help.

I ask this since in many cases the endeavours of yoga participants (and
others) gives the appearance of being very selfish - aimed at raising
their own level of awareness for their own advancement, including
recognition as teachers - with no contribution to the general good.

My personal opinion is that we are here to do good; that if we fail
to use our gifts actively to help the world then we are not doing our
job.

I am sure that there are many on the list who are being active in doing
good - if you could respond by indicating how you do this, you would be
setting a good example for others to follow !

I am presently writing my 'Kundalini resume' and will post it in the
next day or so.

John Living
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 22:24:56
From: SchrLLATnospamaol.com (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: women developing strength
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Ever seen Fried Green Tomatoes?
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 22:32:05
From: SchrLLATnospamaol.com (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Princess Di
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Another snowflake has fallen. O:-(
And melted again.
She was beautiful
She was full of life
A lovely human being
And she will be missed.
Namaste
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 22:31:32
From: SchrLLATnospamaol.com (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Ayurvedic???
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Grrrr,
It is sort of like the 'you are what you eat' thing. Eat hot when cold and
vise versa. (Put very simply) Lots of spices, teas and prescriptions for
mental, physical, and spiritual types. Depak Chopra is in to it.
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 22:31:16
From: SchrLLATnospamaol.com (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: i see what your thinking:)
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Sounds like you are developing some ESP. There are several diffenent kinds
and many are unique. I feel other people's emotions, especially when those
emotions are very strong and not consciously expressed. Repressed emotions
are likely to be what you are seeing. Emotions seems to be the carrier so to
speak for psychic emanations. Look for patterns.
Date: Tue, 02 Sep 1997 23:00:43
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: ghost.
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  To return to the rest of the world from the sanctuary that is wreck
beach, one needs to climb to the top of the cliff... a treelined path with
about 300 wooden steps installed into the hillside to hold the earth in rain.
  I stay on beach till just after sunset, a beach full of naked folks
howling goodbye to the setting sun is a sight to enjoy.
  At the bottom of the cliff I grounded mtself and focused on my breathing,
drawing k-fire up to the earth to fire my body. I felt I was going very
slowly, focusing on breathing and taking each step with care and grace.
  I noticed my heart seemed to be yammering in my chest at one point: I was
unaware of fatigue, but realized my body needed to stop and catch up with
my mind. I paused to offer gratitude to my labouring heart, imaging light
flowing thru my lungs, legs and hips. Kundalini helping my blood to flow.
  druid caught up to me and complained that he had thought to set a slower
pace. I was surprised, I seemed to be moving in slo-motion, to myself. he
contunued up the cliff, I waited for the slowest member, Freda, to catch
up, then went back to ascending one step at a time, with no thought of
progress beyond the next step. Breathing deeply and easily to the bottom of
my stomach.
  Again my body asked to stop, I looked down to see Freda, whom I think of
as athletic, the only person I know whose K. flames as brightly as mine..
far below. I waited for her to catch up and pass me, and then resume
climbing, slowly, I think.. a hint of fatigue hits as I pass her again, the
stray hint of competition in the movement disturbing my trance, quickly
passing as I resume focus. I am aware of the intensity of energy I am
carrying, that is carrying me up the hill. I feel my aura large bright and
intense.
  As I take the final few steps that bring me up over the top, a young boy
screams, thinking he sees a ghost, then laughing at himself as my
apparition comes closer. druid joins me with a smile, as we share a thought
that the boy saw my aura without realizing, I glow in the dark at times..
and so mistook me for a spirit..
  

  

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