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kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #415


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 415

Today's Topics:
  Re: Dizziness & dying & gratitude
  White Powder of Gold
  Re: what eWE (k)N0W: lobsterFACeTbrEYEbrain
  Re: FANTASY AND REALITY
  Re: White Powder of Gold
  Aura Balancing Tapes
  Re: FANTASY AND REALITY
  meditation
  RE: Aura Balancing Tapes
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 20:19:01
From: Mike Beaver <yodaATnospamband1.bandwidth.net> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Dizziness & dying & gratitude
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970827201901.0b87dce0ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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Dear Sylvia:

 The imp attached on my head does cause me to have severe dizziness on
very
rare occasions; only twice so far. It seemed to be pulling my
consciousness up; but
that's only my opinion, for whatever it's worth. You might try finding a
friend who
sees these spirits, like angel3ATnospamgte.net, a member of the group, to look
at you and
see if there are any attachments on you.
 If you can find a good hypnotherapist who knows good regression
releasing
techniques in your area this might cure your problem. For more info. on
finding one
in your area check out my webpage listed at the bottom of this page. It
gives reference
to finding one in your area. There's also a great hint for healing at
the very top
of it that I will let you find also; instead of relating it here.

Sincerely;

Mike Beaver
yodaATnospamband1.bandwidth.net

>
> Still a bit wobbly, but this morning I am able to wear my corrective glasses
> without further distorting my vision and sense of disorientation; so I am
> claiming recovery. Just when I believed myself to no longer being such a
> needy woman, I am proven wrong by understanding just how disconnected I can
> be and how each of your posts is helping me heal. Can I sense your
> compassion over the net? Yes. Am I putting into action your suggestions?
> Some now. Others later. Each post I received seemed to be exactly what I
> needed. Ahhh, to be bathed in exactly what I need. Bring on the
dizziness,
> pain or whatever. Forever being shown the flip side of what I think I
> see/know. Love in the Spirit, Sylvia

--
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     Do not be conformed to this world but be transformed by the renewal
of the mind, that you may prove what is the will of God, what is good
and acceptable.--- Romans 12 2
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Checkout Mike Beaver's Hypnotherapy Home Page at
http://www.bandwidth.net/yoda
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 1997 20:25:02
From: "Duncan, Mark" <duncanmATnospamemh22.eustis.army.mil> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: White Powder of Gold
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Sorry for taking so long to get back on this subject. I read slow.

After reading ALL of the information "Superconductivity and Modern
Alchemy", I was real excited. I understand chemistry and physics so it
all seemed plausable. Then I went to the site
http://monatomic.earth.com/ .and kept on reading. I came crashing down
when I read http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/1996/091996/feature2-1.html .
 

It seems that I am very gullable. I try not to believe anything to keep
from believing in lies and illusions. I am so confused about
everything. If I can't see it and prove it, I have a hard time
integrating it. Now I have trouble identifing the real truth even when
it hits me in the face.

I am a scientist by nature and an artist by heart. What a battle! The
left side of my brain doesn't acknowledge the information held in the
right side. I couldn't even tell you if my kundalini is awake or when
it started.

Is this typical of kundalini? I need to put my finger on something to
know what is happening and where I stand (or sit) :-o

Any feed back would be wonderful!!!

Love & Light

Mark C. Duncan
Network Engineer
Information Technology Solutions, Inc.
Building 2797, Ft. Eustis, VA
757.878.1580 or 1589
duncanmATnospamemh22.eustis.army.mil
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 01:49:05
From: brEYEnPR0stir <wakemupATnospameskimo.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: what eWE (k)N0W: lobsterFACeTbrEYEbrain
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970828014905.0a1ff974ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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List Mystress notes: Sorry, Darlin, my server crashed bigtime on Sat, I
have been offline till this evening.
 I forward everything I get, whether I agree or not, unless it's spam.
  Blessings, Serpent.

(^I gave up on sending anythinKJg to the-list.. but AngelIQ
(^has me flustered and trying ONE LAST TRY..
(^ to send something I sent out last friday. and again tuesday.
(^if this gets no where, then it's just a sign I'm wasting my typing pains.
(^I'll keep this stuff on back-up files, but will only send to those few
(^who want to see/hear my diatribes.
===
>Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 19:52:30
>To: K-list backup
>From: brEYEnPR0stir <wakemupATnospameskimo.com>
>Subject: Re: what eWE (k)N0W: lobster faceted brEYEbrain
>
> jason("L>") wrote:
> EYE("b(^") started to play...
>
>(^once a month.. no more than that, angelIQ. I be quiet lurk one.ok?
>(^ps.. your problem with request/subscribe/bounce/etc..
>(^may have something to do with your dirrections.capshioft stuck when cgi
scripting?
>
>kundalini-l-requestATnospamexecpc.com
>is NOT the same as
>KUNDALINI-L-REQUESTATnospamEXECPC.COM
> (^and, out on the net, there are places I find both.
>(^I don't use DOS, therefore I don't default to capitals.
>(^maybe this is all offbase? like.. uh.. WRONG.
>(^ just a newbe quest..but, dern it, if you're gonna train,
>(^remember.. different ` hourses..`.. different handling.
>
>((^this one's fer ALL you guru's out there. big, small, old, young,
>(^comprehensive, or condescending.. crustation or fallen angel...
>(^hawaii mudrifts to LaLa gensingers... read without judgement caller.
>
>(^......... RELAX. .TRAMPOLINE ..............^)
>#########################################################
>(^I.. am LINKed arms.. with JESTER. loki. coyote. teach through trickery.
>(^I'll leave the warrior training 101 to those cemented in chakra 1/2 power.
>
>(^we emote electricity. It has no power/nor care as to how "IT".. gets used.
>(^to light darkened paths, or electric chair shock makery.
>(^to heat the room, or burn down the house.
>(^WE ALL ARE ENERGY. so??
>(^learn to direct without assuming control of the directives..
>
>>FANTASY AND REALITY
>(^ps... what's the difference between
>>(^ fantasizing and fascinating?
>>
>>(^---------------FUN..ding!
>
>(^again.. worn out adult answer=funding.
> cash makes making dreams come true to life fasten8ing.((^BULLheaded^))
>
>(^however.. child answer= no difference.
>
>((^ ..it's always fascinating to fantasize.that's how we learn!
>
>(^note.. the younger you feel, the wiser you share.
>>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>(^careful with that axe....
>(^we are dead log cutting block.
>(^NOT head-chop block shopping.
>
>(^some folk only know my rabid bonkers side.
>(^NOT my crazy like a fox mode.
>
>((^..and.... I like it that way. confused coyote..yes.^))
>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>playing in public is go0DD for the soul(s)tice9 cat cradle..
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>L>Every person is respected and of value.
>b(^Y?
>L>Each person has potential and worth.
>b(^even the robbers and thug mongerers? I can believe it!
>
>L>However
>b(^..DANG! I hate that loophole clause. "but, but, butt! "...
>b(^..sigh. ok.. go ahead and " I before E " me.
>
>L>on the spiritual path we must develop
>abc(^ YES!!
>L>discrimination
>b(^.no? so we can look down apon those not on "yOur " path? ok....
>L> and wisdom.
>b(^ wisdom is a word for learning how NOT to throw yer weight around, right?
>b(^that way you won't crush your best friends' kitty?
>
>L> A person who shows and displays some ability
>a(^without YOUR rules to "guide" and/or hinder...
>
>c((^uh.. that ones's fer U2, angelIQ... throwing away beaten horses
>(^does NOT make you a good trainer. just a trainee. give her the pony. no
mustangs.^))
>(^... you DO like jokes, yes? or is that bloodbubble boiling?
>
>L> and is also delusional
>b(^who isn't? the one claiming to "KNOW" what's going on? ok.
>b(^ I'll run right over to those folks at dianetics and de-train my
emotivaters.
>
>L>and undergoing transitional stages
>b(^again.. puberty or menapause? birthing or dieing? hired/fired?
learn/teach?
>
>L> can be potentially damaging towards other peoples progress.
>b(^progress. yes.. I LIKE progress! it helped clear a path for my race car!!!
>b(^no.. wait.. potetially damaging.. = LIFE WILL KILL YOU!
>b(^ BE SAFE !!! DON'T LIVE!!!
>
>L>It is up to both parties to develop the ability
>a(^but mabe not the tendancy nor the nessecity^))
>L> to differentiate between genuine spirituality
>b(^and false mattereality.. yes.
>a(^anythink you see or touch is notthing but a ` vassel `
>.
>c(^why? so we can block out half the fun?
>c(^what IS "genuine", anyway?
>c(^zirconium diamonds(great for drill bitts!)= same genetic structure
>c(^ as faulty "true" made by only earthma. diamond..
>c(^namely, compressed coal. are human spirits that different?
>c(^man-made does NOT equate not genuine. in FACeT, tools are often
>c(^better crafted for material use BY man. upgrading "god"(ess)/es"
handiwork.
>
>L> and spurious ego fantasies.
>
>(^ then, this *Poof* happened...
>(^ gottit became my answer.
>(^ IM=InstantMail =InsideMischief
>
>(^what I got out of <tag= shh..." IT "... was..
>
> sh.>.IT!!/s>h.I.T!!/!shIT!//!!sIhT\\\THIS!!
>
> this is it, then. eWhEre a11 g0ing to die....LAUGH1NG!
>\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
>
>(^once, I was a vegetarian sheepdog/wolf mix
>(^running around barking and all happy
>(^to see my cousins' travelling pack visit my farmyard..
>
>(^They were interested in JOINing me
>(^in learning how to take care of the lambs, TOO!
>
>(^oh, MY, yes... they.. rrrREEAAALlllyyyy wanted to learn.
>(^so?
>(^I gutspilled.
>(^they disapeared.
>(^later, all my lambsKinFolk were
>(^married off to a wolfPeltPack, and the farmer shot me.
>===
>
>L><People will follow and respect people with "limited"
>L>realisation or who are prone to fantasy and the result
>L>can be anything from dependence to group psychosis.
>
>(^which is, of course, far worse than depending on the
>(^built IN dependancy of govt. controlled pschOtic media.right?
>
>(^yeah, right)
>%%%%%%%%%%%%A MORALITANY places, please..%%%%%
>(^true one, in fact. really happened, this next..
>
>(^I had been a member of a different list
>(^from it's start, called itrl. (InternetTalkRadioList)
>(^ They wanted to produce a venue on the net for
>(^ a CONTROLLED discussion.
>(^I.. had a lot to say... TOO much..and was
>(^ wondering if they could afford the bandwidth.
>
>(^I regret leaving tHere feeling cynical,
>(^it had been such a warm place to be.
>((^hellishly hot.. yes. ^))
>(^develishly cold, too. ^)
>////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>(^the starters of the itrl group left.poof. quit sending.
>
>(^they started BDSM links in irk channels ,
>(^then started up pornlinks on the web...
>(^using some of my random thoughts on advertising.
>(^...OUCH... (kn)OW! !WO(nk) (kNOw)
>(^some of those links have sublinks
>(^ to kiddie porn sub channels.
>
>(^this is kNOT what I want my ideas being used for.
>=======================================
>
>L>For this reason wisdom has always tried
>L>to make people aware and independent.
>
>(^by allowing inteligencia to run the show,
>(^hence showing off the smart blows mode, yet masking the
>(^underlined secret adgenda:.. to re-train horses
>(^that have never needed to be ridden to extreem lengths
>(^in the first place, except to attain the desires of the rider.
>
>(^...!.. horses.. tag. you're .."it" + trainer's = "genuine"
>
>L> "It" has supported their genuine efforts,
>L> ignored their ramblings and ego and actively
>L>countered their limiting fantasies.
>
>(^..S0!.... I'm a bit more careful now
>(^about who I shoot my mouth off to.
>
>(^sometimes, a little TOO careful. I quit riding.
>-----------------------------------------------------------
>I think this was the functional opposite of spam;
>
>(^I was very frustrated by the fact that people
>(^had taken issues of interest to many members
>(^of that list off line, ((^AS IN the KSlist in tHere^))
>(^without the general knowledge of the group.
>
>((^i was that new to irKmode.. i couldn't fathom it..
>
>(^Hmmmm...thanks for this earlier
>(^ "wah wah I'm not in the "IN/Out"crowd " send.
>
>><yin spam: = input lack of information USe
>>< eWE don't WANT to USe to revive.((re-kindle, even))(expansive)
>><yang spam: = output of information
>><that eWE NEED for survival. (contractive)?
>
>(^"spam " was a monty python joke. computer techs needed to laugh.
>
>L>To say everything is part of the One is true
>b(^go0DD! for a moment there, I was going to feel like you missed y0ur point!
>
>L> but we do not advocate or support anything and everything.
>((^..shoot. I was right in the first place. DanBern it.sigh. ^))
>b(^Y? who's afraid of loss of control? the TRAINER. yes.
>b(^ keep the horses penned in when not in use?
>
>b(^ uh..and.. lobster... who is your "we", anyway?
>b(^ MY "we"= internet community .. feral as all getout.
>
>L> It is very important for people to develop their powers of
>L>rational and sane thought
>(^been there.. overDUNG, that.
>(^kind of like plowing the fields with no grain to spare
>b(^for throwing in the furrows.
>(^but I agree. those must be developed..
>(^AFTER THE SEEDLINGS SPROUT!
>(^ use a jar with paper towels and water first.
>
>L> as well as the intuitive and other capabilities.
>(^without rain and shine, there'd be no bread. yes.
>
>L>People who support each others delusions can be seen
>L>everywhere in the New age Circus.
>(^as I said.. I'm a clown. I let ringmasticators play with whips.
>(^but, lobster.. I'm also.. a Harlequin. do you know this one?
>(^hows about the joker? wild card? king's confidant?
>(^puppy/dog in fools #0 tarot card?
>
>(^who needs a bag of tricks when you in facet ARE trickybag0stuff?
>
>L> I'll support your delusions if you support mine.
>b(^GREAT!!! you be a lobster, and I'll me a monkey's uncle!!!
>
>L>This is the game playing of children.
>(^wise old farts get so damn stuck up in the dogma mud
>(^that sometimes, it takes a great=great grandchild's rampage play
>(^to resuscitate the victim of "too wise to enjoy life anymore" ailment.
>
>L>It is amusing to play but is not the Way of Wisdom.
>(^it is the way TO wisdom. I aRgUeE.
>
>L> Wisdom plays a harder game and yet still swims in the Ocean.
>(^yes.. it hides and waits in case the child starts to sink.
>(^but stays out of view of the swimming toddlers who are in the
>(^" want to be all grown up and do it by myself" mode.
>
>L>When a child says something wise we listen and
>L>gain from this, when the child says, "I am Superman or
>L>Wonder Woman", we smile.
>(^"we smile".....heh, heh... fell for it, eye, grumpy gramps?
>(^well worth watching?
>
>L> People who need or claim status,
>L>who talk about their "spiritual" experiences and
>L>abilities, may eventually realise the futility of such actions.
>
>(^and then? .. they get old. life is futile. true. lie down and
>(^forget that not talking/death/inaction is JUST AS FUTILE.
>
>(^.. look. kid drowning.. are you it's grampa or no?
>(^do you have any strength left to pass on? GOOD! sinkANDswim!!
>(^find that drowning/flailing wannabe grown-up!
>(^ HELP train the trainer by bucking up some horsefodderDOGmantrah!
>
>(^I remember you showing up AFter you were ASKED to come back.
>(^I'm glad, lobster. I like your soul.
>(^It feeds me the life's breath of childlike wonderment.
>(^ I even keep all the sends of k-list,
>(^just to see how thinKgs change. how to STAYwise?
>(^don't act as if you couldn't care less.
>(^better to fake concern than get stabbed in the back for being
>(^mistaken for an ornery old mule with no balls.
>
>(^I'm glad to see ALL this. you too, M,Gloria, Morgana,TeeGee,
>(^where's Tom? we lose him? ah, to tell tales to point OUTwardings.
>(^and breathe INwardrobes, too.
>
>(^I'm wraptured in the essence of other's fantasies, so that I may pass
along one.
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
-------------------------
>(^back to this...
>L> People who "need" or "claim" status,
>
>L>As adults and if we are attempting to travel the path of
>L>Shakti, Wisdom, Love etc. we must similarly learn to be
>L>open to wisdom
>
>b(^but "closed to nonsense"?. are YOU TOO suffering dilutive grandiosity?
>b(^nonsense is a key to re-creativity. for making of new(er) life quality!
>
>L>To point out others fantasies in this best way open to us
>L> is a test of our own compassion.
>(^..yes. OUR own COM.passion.
>(^NOT pointing at and shooting down "THEIR FASCINATING FANTASY".
>(^sometimes, the "best way"... is to JOIN them... and....
>
>(^PROVE TO THE TRAINER THAT THE HORSE TEACHES.
>
>(^if you whip too hard, angel, and the horse already KNOWS....
>(^get ready for a bumpy ride...
>
>L> The inclination is to get personal
>L>satisfaction or stimulation from this process.
>(^which is good. to be left UNsatified and numb would suck.
>
>L> Therefore such actions are a learning process for all concerned.
>(^` espessually ` the trainer... if concerned=cares.
>```````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````
>(^note to those I'm new to. I sometimes write in code.
>(^eudorah pro e-mail software has a spell checker.
>(^I use it in personal messages aLOT to expand my meanings.
>(^I consider this send a special occasion, so, here. one word:
>(^propperly misspeled, and the suggested words that pop up if splecked.
>
>(^I hate typing. and copy/pasting all that out wears my hands out.
>
>spleck espessually = essentially, especially, esoterically, sexennially,
> episcopally, essentiality, essentials, +
sequentially.
>
> (^.. that's not a joke,K-listers.... those are the words that come up
>(^as correct spelling suggestions with this particular spell checker.
>
>
>(^can you see the ramifications?
>(^.. stick THAT in a search engine!
>(^ as a plugin for random links
>(^ to SP1RITurl space through misspelling.
>
>(^oh, ye at it fer a long timers.. you miss so much glory
>(^by shutting up the newbes in order to exP0UND cunt.roll...
>
>======
>
>L>A would-be student went to a Guru and started a long
>L>outburst on her experiences.
>(^in order to re-teach the guru the fine art of listening....
>
>L> The Master interrupted *as she had more important things to attend to,
>
>(^like what? I always thought children/newbies/freshmen
>(^were/are the MOST SACRED thinKgs to attend...
>(^followed by the sacred act of caring for the old...
>(^and suckling them BOTH dry of wisdom as they birth/grow/sustain\die\off...
>
>L> "We do not care
>(^you mean you don't wanna learn anymore. just teach. don't paint. calculate.
>
>L>".. where you have been or whose company you have kept,
>(^what...afraid of making new friends?
>
>L>tell us what you KNOW
>(^I know how I feel. I feel you don't care. You TOLD me that! you SUCK!
>
>L> and we will tell you what you need."
>(^all I need, ...is time with you, gramps. tell me who and where you used
to be.
>(^then, I'll be able to pass on those stories to people that think I'M the
wise one.
>
>L>When people display wisdom,
>L> they will always be questioned as to their motives.
>(^only if the questers have been taught to do so.
>(^but I ALWAYS question. Not to catch the "wise" in untruth,
>(^but to catch up the wiseaged on the way things play out!
>
>L>This is why the primary and over riding motive of wisdom
>L> is to create, develop and nurture this in others.
>(^but, sometimes, to create/develop, one must tear down hazzardous old
bridges.
>
>L>A society of Gnostics, moves forward " in " Unity, Wisdom and Love.
>(^but not IN. gottit.
>>
>L>in Unity, Wisdom and Love
>L>Lobster
>>
>b(^ thanks for letting me play ego skiprope with you.
>
>(^ I have a feeling that to play this with AngeIQ would be cruisin' fer a
bruisin'
>
>(^lemme gits'm' attack dog trainers' padded gear on before I tackle THAT.
>
>>
>(^shoot. back to musician's worry wart and xena's fly mackeral.
>>
>
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 05:25:46
From: TPp4tATnospamaol.com (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: FANTASY AND REALITY
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970828052546.448f2b02ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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In a message dated 97-08-28 03:24:56 EDT, you write:

<< I took ownership >>
  God this was long winded. Don't know if I will ever understand the ram
blings but, if it was a good sounding board for someone to get things off
their chest, grand. Still don't and never will agree that it is positive to
see oneself as slave owner; could get into fights in some areas I have lived;
part of this and other nations have been destroyed to eradicate these
deleterious lifestyles.
  That Hitler went to heaven. If the intent was to inflame, it didn't work.
 Again, this is something that I will never accept. There are somethings
that just don't make sense! And if we are to see them and just say "the
emperor has new clothes" then we become part of the problem. To have the
right to say instead, "thats nutts" is what so many of my brother in arms
have given their lives for.
  Enough on what is obvisouly some sort of aberration that has to be worked
out inside of one of the sisters. Lets all wish her well in letting these
illusions/delusions fall by the wayside. Here is my hope that you can work
throught whatever has you in it's grip.
  Back to seeing the Sun Rise, high enough price for it, part of my life
  LLLLSS
    TPp4t
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 06:06:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: "Duncan, Mark" <duncanmATnospamemh22.eustis.army.mil> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: White Powder of Gold
Message-Id: <199708281306.GAA25873ATnospamgridsat.thegrid.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 08:25 PM 8/27/97, Duncan, Mark wrote:
>It seems that I am very gullable. I try not to believe anything to keep
>from believing in lies and illusions. I am so confused about
>everything. If I can't see it and prove it, I have a hard time
>integrating it. Now I have trouble identifing the real truth even when
>it hits me in the face.
>I am a scientist by nature and an artist by heart. What a battle! The
>left side of my brain doesn't acknowledge the information held in the
>right side. I couldn't even tell you if my kundalini is awake or when
>it started.
>Is this typical of kundalini? I need to put my finger on something to
>know what is happening and where I stand (or sit) :-o
>Any feed back would be wonderful!!!

Mark, thank you for a wonderful description of this phenomena. I see it as
part of the maturation process and for me, right now, it feels like there is
integration and it was worth the struggle to get here. So I am saying there
is light at the end of the tunnel.

  However, and this may or may not be true for all, no, the light is not an
on-coming highspeed bullett train, but, what I have found is that while I
enjoy the sunshine here I will wind up in another tunnel after a while, then
sun, then tunnel, sunnel, tun, sun tunnel, sentenil, etc...each tiime
becoming more multifaceted, I guess. Or it's just the old inhale/exhale
nature of life, ya know?

Everyone a chance to choose and become. So, you will choose again, and
again, and again until you have done it all...
M
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 11:53:51 -0400
From: "L. D. McClanahan, Ph.D." <ldmcclATnospameurekanet.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Aura Balancing Tapes
Message-ID: <34059F0F.2732ATnospameurekanet.com>

Hi,
 Several have chatted about various symptoms related to probable
Kundalini issues, e.g., dizziness & dying & gratitude, etc. Recently I
purchased the rather pricy tapes by Dr. Valerie V. Hunt, author of
Infinite Mind. Her 5 tapes help balance the different chakras. One can
assume that various physical and emotional symptoms with K rising should
be helped by using those tapes. They use music noted by aura readers to
balance different aspects of the human energy field.
 Some may consider this "spam." I get nothing for this testimonial, but
my aura reader quickly noted my 3rd eye fully open and my top chakra
fuller after I came in last Friday. She did not know what I had done
until I told her.
 Interesting sensation. L.D.
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 05:38:09
From: TPp4tATnospamaol.com (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: FANTASY AND REALITY
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970828053809.1a5fb06cATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

In a message dated 97-08-28 03:24:56 EDT, you write:

<< I took ownership >>
  God this was long winded. Don't know if I will ever understand the ram
blings but, if it was a good sounding board for someone to get things off
their chest, grand. Still don't and never will agree that it is positive to
see oneself as slave owner; could get into fights in some areas I have lived;
part of this and other nations have been destroyed to eradicate these
deleterious lifestyles.
  That Hitler went to heaven. If the intent was to inflame, it didn't work.
 Again, this is something that I will never accept. There are somethings
that just don't make sense! And if we are to see them and just say "the
emperor has new clothes" then we become part of the problem. To have the
right to say instead, "thats nutts" is what so many of my brother in arms
have given their lives for.
  Enough on what is obvisouly some sort of aberration that has to be worked
out inside of one of the sisters. Lets all wish her well in letting these
illusions/delusions fall by the wayside. Here is my hope that you can work
throught whatever has you in it's grip.
  Back to seeing the Sun Rise, high enough price for it, part of my life
  LLLLSS
    TPp4t
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 14:33:22 -0500 (CDT)
From: Nothing Is <holi0007ATnospamitlabs.umn.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: meditation
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95q.970828142659.362A-100000ATnospampiranha.itlabs.umn.edu>
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 It seems that everytime I start a month long period or so of
heavier meditating(zazen/insight) everyday, that I become more
unfriendly, internally confused and directionless. Could this be a
symptom of the ego fighting back? Now I feel more guilty of the less
virtuous karma I've been generating in the process to actually
trying to better myself. Has anyone experienced the same ordeal?

thanks,
joe
Date: Thu, 28 Aug 1997 12:29:39
From: "Wright, James 7929" <JwrightATnospamphelpsd.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: RE: Aura Balancing Tapes
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970828122939.3c9fdbfaATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi, L.D.,
What led you to purchase these tapes in the first place? What other
effects, if any, have you noticed?
Just curious - the more information, the more confusion! <VBG!>
james

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From: L. D. McClanahan, Ph.D.[SMTP:ldmcclATnospameurekanet.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 28, 1997 11:53 AM
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Aura Balancing Tapes

Hi,
 Several have chatted about various symptoms related to probable
Kundalini issues, e.g., dizziness & dying & gratitude, etc. Recently I
purchased the rather pricy tapes by Dr. Valerie V. Hunt, author of
Infinite Mind. Her 5 tapes help balance the different chakras. One can
assume that various physical and emotional symptoms with K rising should
be helped by using those tapes. They use music noted by aura readers to
balance different aspects of the human energy field.
 Some may consider this "spam." I get nothing for this testimonial, but
my aura reader quickly noted my 3rd eye fully open and my top chakra
fuller after I came in last Friday. She did not know what I had done
until I told her.
 Interesting sensation. L.D.

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