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kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #409


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 409

Today's Topics:
  Re: Order of Melchizedek
  Re: Sounds
  Question for psychic listmemners. Was:Enlightment
  Question for psychic listmembers. Was:Enlightment
  see it fall away.
  energy place, (circle)
  Re: heart surgery
  FW: ionizer question
  Re: Try This (From SpiritWeg.Org)
  Re: Order of Melchizedek
  about Mystic Art
  Re: Drugs, sex and kundalini
  Re: Question for psychic listmembers. Was:Enlightment
  from hatha to kundalini
  Words and action
  Re: Sounds
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 11:30:00
From: NasalamATnospamaol.com (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Order of Melchizedek
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970822113000.0b5f2264ATnospamdomin8rex.com>

In a message dated 97-08-22 08:40:17 EDT, eg writes:
>
> had someone make a mention of the order of melchizedek before and I am
> STILL wondering what it is. I'd love to hear everything you'd be willing
> to explain about the o of m.
>

Trying to explain what the O of M is presents a challenge. There are
numerous people claiming to be members, priests, high priests... but IMHO
most of them are deluding themselves. I assume you know the basic facts
about Melchizedek (Greek name for Melek Zadok - king of righteousness) in the
Bible. There is more material in the Dead Sea Scrolls and Nag Hammadi
Library pertaining to who they believed Melchisedek to be. In general they
(and Edgar Cayce!) believed him to be a prior incarnation of Jesus. I think
it's pointless to argue whether that's true, but it is part of the mystique.

The Order of Melchizedek -- at least the one I belong to -- considers itself
to be, rather like Paul's description of Melchizedek, outside of time and
space, a part of the eternal priesthood that exists throughout the universe
striving for the unfolding of all beings. The name Melchizedek is attached
to the priesthood here only because that particular being was the one who
brought the knowledge of the priesthood to the earth.

The Priesthood does not espouse much along the line of what would generally
be called dogma. It is less concerned with what people believe than with
what people do. Rather than try to be a religion (ie, something you do on
Sundays), it tries to be a way of life. At the present time we believe that
the current social setup is not really a viable situation for people to
unfold spiritually and feel that it must undergo radical change. Many have
predicted massive earth changes -- I'm sure everyone is familiar with them.
 They may be true. Personally, I wonder if what many are seeing is the
destruction of the world as they know it -- i.e., those things that make the
world we live in so comfortable and familiar. I do believe that we are going
to have to lose some of that in order to reconfigure human society in a way
that makes it work FOR individual spiritual growth rather than against it.

I hope that is at least a beginning of an answer to your question. If you're
curious about the changes we feel need to take place, check out of web site
below.

Namaste
Uriel
=====================================
Uriel Andros
Nasalam - A Spiritual Community for the New Age
nasalamATnospamaol.com
http://members.aol.com/nasalam/
=====================================
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 11:35:59
From: Josh Owen <surferATnospamusit.net> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Sounds
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970822113559.0b5ffc0cATnospamdomin8rex.com>

For what it's worth....
I head a continual "B" pitch sound at all times. It is VERY
high pitched. I was wandering if anyone else was a "B" ????

Josh
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 12:22:17
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Question for psychic listmemners. Was:Enlightment
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970822122217.0b5f668aATnospamdomin8rex.com>

  Lobster, you are a very sweet crustacean.
  Thankyou for worrying about me,
  but you are mistaken that there is nothing you can do..
  You can check out my story with God or Goddess, inside yourself.
  Use your discernment. Please?
  I know that you say you are not psychic,
  Which is a statement I have some doubts about..

  However this list is full of well -connected folks.
**** A humble request, of awakened listmembers, from List Mystress...? ***
  Get grounded, then please, ask two 'yes or no' questions of your Higher
Self:

   Is Angelique Serpent the physical manifestation of the second oldest
soul, next to God?
   Is Angelique Serpent one of the constantly reborn Trainers?

 Yes or no?
   I humbly throw myself on the wisdom of the list. Please post your results.
  If it is the consensus of the wisest sages of this list that I am not who
I say, according to the voice of their own souls, then I shall ask Ken
MacFarland and Tom Aston to shrink my head, and stop my claims.
  Lobster, by no means do I expect anyone to believe such extravagant
claims just on my say-so.. that really would be crazy.
  Perhaps I am expecting too much respect, but please don't discount what I
say offhand, just because it sounds crazy, until you have really checked it
out with your soul..
  Please find out for yourself.
  But Lobster, when you do get confirmation.. look on the bright side.. you
always thought I should be more focused on serving humanity.. tee hee..
   But do get really well grounded before asking.. finding out how long I
have already been doing so is gonna unground some folks.
   I await the results with peace in my heart.
   I have faith in this list's consensus.
  Blessings, Serpent.

At 13:17 22/08/97 -0700, E Jason wrote:
>Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:

>> My ego still ocassionally rears up again and tries to give me stories
>> about Kundalini Psychosis delusions of Granduer... but I have recieved too
>> many wonderful confirmations to pay much heed.. your support and the faith
>> that listmembers have expressed is definitely helping to keep me centered.
>> Thankyou.
>
>Well I guess there is little I can offer you . . .
>- it is also possible you may be God Almighty - would you like that?
>Hey Dan - Angelique is coming your way . . .
>Be afraid, very afraid . . .
>Just in case "Heaven forbid!" that you are headed for La-La Land, try
>and contact Tom Aston who is more an expert on K-Psychosis - mind you
>"the second oldest soul" probably knows best . . .
>
>
>I am very concerned for You Angelique,
>Gloria warned you of this but . . .
>
>Lobster
>Probably too late . . .
>
>
>

Mystress Angelique Serpent,
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
      :D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
  Swami Beyondananda on the Golden Rule: "It seems that when
masochists do unto others as they wish to be done unto, they
become sadists," the Swami said. "Consequently, the Golden Rule
has been recalled by the Maker until this design flaw can be fixed."
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 12:24:16
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Question for psychic listmembers. Was:Enlightment
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970822122416.0b2f2db8ATnospamdomin8rex.com>

  Lobster, you are a very sweet crustacean.
  Thankyou for worrying about me,
  but you are mistaken that there is nothing you can do..
  You can check out my story with God or Goddess, inside of yourself.
  Use your discernment. Please?
  I know that you say you are not psychic,
  Which is a statement I have some doubts about..

  However this list is full of well -connected folks.

**** A humble request, of awakened listmembers, from List Mystress...? ***
  Get grounded, then please, ask two 'yes or no' questions of your Higher
Self:

   Is Angelique Serpent the physical manifestation of the second oldest
soul, next to God?
   Is Angelique Serpent one of the constantly reborn Trainers?

 Yes or no?
   I humbly throw myself on the wisdom of the list. Please post your results.
  If it is the consensus of the wisest sages of this list that I am not who
I say, according to the voice of their own souls, then I shall ask Ken
MacFarland and Tom Aston to shrink my head, and stop my claims.
  Lobster, by no means do I expect anyone to believe such extravagant
claims just on my say-so.. that really would be crazy.
  Perhaps I am expecting too much respect, but please don't discount what I
say offhand, just because it sounds crazy, until you have really checked it
out with your soul..
  Please find out for yourself.
  But Lobster, when you do get confirmation.. look on the bright side.. you
always thought I should be more focused on serving humanity.. tee hee..
   But do get really well grounded before asking..
    finding out how long I have already been doing so is gonna unground
some folks.
   I await the results with peace in my heart.
   I have faith in this list's consensus.
  Blessings, Serpent.

At 13:17 22/08/97 -0700, E Jason wrote:
>Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:

>> My ego still ocassionally rears up again and tries to give me stories
>> about Kundalini Psychosis delusions of Granduer... but I have recieved too
>> many wonderful confirmations to pay much heed.. your support and the faith
>> that listmembers have expressed is definitely helping to keep me centered.
>> Thankyou.
>
>Well I guess there is little I can offer you . . .
>- it is also possible you may be God Almighty - would you like that?
>Hey Dan - Angelique is coming your way . . .
>Be afraid, very afraid . . .
>Just in case "Heaven forbid!" that you are headed for La-La Land, try
>and contact Tom Aston who is more an expert on K-Psychosis - mind you
>"the second oldest soul" probably knows best . . .
>
>
>I am very concerned for You Angelique,
>Gloria warned you of this but . . .
>
>Lobster
>Probably too late . . .
>
>
>

Mystress Angelique Serpent,
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
      :D ;) :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :D :0 :) ;P :0 ;) :)
  Swami Beyondananda on the Golden Rule: "It seems that when
masochists do unto others as they wish to be done unto, they
become sadists," the Swami said. "Consequently, the Golden Rule
has been recalled by the Maker until this design flaw can be fixed."
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 12:49:28
From: "mtmindATnospamusa.net" <mtmindATnospamusa.net> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: see it fall away.
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970822124928.2c0f18c6ATnospamdomin8rex.com>

Each day I feel like my ego is becoming smaller. Little things no longer
bother me.
I don't have so many preferances about the people I work with, or others
for that matter. It is turly amazing to see these things fall away.
Somtimes I catch a little ego sneaking in saying, "damn it, quit bothering
me, I don't want to do that" and a minute later I will realize what
happened and laugh and go do whatever it was.

Life is huge. Incomprehensible. Inexhuastable.

And full of love for everyone.

AS always,
Thanks for everyone and everything.
Blessings to everyone and everything.
It is a miracle in each moment that allows life to permeate the universe.

Peace,
John Halonen
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 12:29:46
From: "mtmindATnospamusa.net" <mtmindATnospamusa.net> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: energy place, (circle)
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970822122946.2c0f1660ATnospamdomin8rex.com>

I once knew a girl when I was in my teens.
She had supposedly set up a spot behind one of my friends houses with a
star of
rocks and eventually there was a small campfire in this place. I don't
know exactly what went on, but I will tell oyou of the end result.

There was a spot where grass wouldn't grow for a while and another friend
of mine learned of this spot and that you could stand here and receive energy.
So a few of us headed out one afternoon near dark so people wouldn't notice
too much. We each took a turn standing there and the energy rush was
incredible.
It made my necklace heat up. I was still religious in a sense that I was
blind and I never got the nerve up to go back or ask how it was done.
When I finally went back later(years), the grass was groown over and there
was no energy spot left.

I cannot find this girl who has moved away and I would love to know what
she did to open this up.

Does anyone know or have suggestions?

Curiously,
John Halonen
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 13:35:06 -0700 (PDT)
From: susan carlson <carlsonsATnospamrocketmail.com>
To: Maceo <maceoATnospampi.net>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: heart surgery
Message-ID: <19970822203506.15221.rocketmailATnospamsend1.rocketmail.com>

---Maceo <maceoATnospampi.net> wrote:

> I need some advice on the following. My wife has to have major
heart-surgery
> within a few months. We have a lot of confidence in this event, but
also a
> lot of questions. What kind of effect does that have on her chakras
and
> energy flows, what can we expect? How can I help her? Is there
anyone who
> has some experience with this?
>
> Love to hear from you
> Greetings from "Heatwave Holland"
> Maceo
>
HI,

I spent 10 years as a critical care nurse with most of it specializing
in open heart surgery.

Although, the heart is in a place that causes a lot of anxiety when it
is to be operated on. . .after all, its not my brain or my stomach, it
actually heals very quickly.

People bounce back quicker from open heart surgery than abdominal
surgery. Sometimes it takes a full year for people to recuperate from
abdominal as compared to open heart surgery.

My suggestions would be this: find a great energy healer, some one
who is well versed in the understanding of chakras. Have healing
treatments before surgery and after. Have the healer "charge" a
natural material like cotton with healing energy to place over your
wife's chest after surgery. Don't wash it. To be less conspicuous, if
you are sensitive to what others may think , use a cuddly soft
stuffed toy.

After surgery the nursing staff will instruct your wife to do coughing
and deep breathing ( to prevent pneumonia). She will need a large
pillow to hold against her chest to splint the incision. ( this is if
they have cut throw her breast bone -sternum and mediastinum). Her
bones will be wired together post surgery. Charge that pillow with
healing energy too. You can do it by placing your hands on it and
charging it with white light and love. Visualize the energy coming
from your heart thru your hands into the pillow. Don't worry about
doing it wrong. Intention over rides technique.

Any intravenous fluids your wife receives bless the bag that is
hanging with love and healing energy. Have your wife visualize that
love and light is dripping into her body.

Have people pray for her. Have the healer visit her in the hospital.

Find some books on therapeutic touch... Using your hands to help or
heal
by Delores Krieger...and teach yourself this technique so you can work
on your wife your self. There are probably Reiki,Therapeutic Touch,
and Healing Touch practioners in your country. You should be able to
find them in a directory on the internet.

Allow no negative words or thoughts around her. Keep the environment
postively charged.

The energy healer should be able to "rewire" and "restructure" the
chakras after surgery.

Ask for angel healing guides to be present with the doctors and the
rest of the hospital staff.

And get some energy work for you too!

Blessings,
Susan

_____
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Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 14:37:01 -0700 (PDT)
From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: FW: ionizer question
Message-Id: <199708222137.OAA28643ATnospamgridsat.thegrid.net>

>Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 13:39:45
>To: <duncanmATnospamemh22.eustis.army.mil>
>From: M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
>Subject: FW: ionizer question
>
>Bless you Mark Duncan. Can anyone as sweet as you possibly be in the
military??? Do they allow people who are interested in kundalini to
participate?? I love the 22 in your address too. It is my most favorite
number.
>And thanks to Angelique, Ken, Morgana and David Bozzi (I think)
>
>
>OK now. Any tips on bargain ionizers? The best 2 I found on the WWW are
temp out of stock!!
>
>Also, if the shame, mouldy past theory is valid why do soapy smells linger
even more??? someone just told me that one is associated with systemic yeast
infections.
>
>Hope I can get back to receiving posts. In the mean time, please copy me
on any responses. TIA
>
>M <chooseagainATnospamthegrid.net>
>
>M
>
>
>>From: "Duncan, Mark" <duncanmATnospamemh22.eustis.army.mil>
>>
>
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 14:55:57
From: Nancy Kar <watrfallATnospamniagara.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Try This (From SpiritWeg.Org)
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970822145557.2c0f8d48ATnospamdomin8rex.com>

Hiya,

Just to put in a few words here about John Payne. I was on a list with
him for a year or so while he was developing himself as a channeler. I
have great respect for his channelings of Omni. What always impressed me
about him and his channeling is that it is given to us with such love.
You can trust his words as all he wishes to do is bring light and love
to those of us he can reach. His teachings are not new, they are very
old and proven through time. Just another voice for us to listen to, so
that we may learn.

Nancy
WaterFall

> >Awakening The Christ Chakra - stimulating the Unified Heart
> >channeled by John Payne
> >Greetings! This is Omni.
> > <snip>
> >In essence, the Christ Chakra is not new, you are merely awakening it
> >from a long slumber! My blessings dear ones. Call upon my energy to
> >assist you or to give you extra energy in times of need.
> >Namaste.
> >Omni.
> >John Payne (omni-johnATnospambox.nl)
>
> I'm somewhat confused by this message and I don't mean to be offensive in my
> response since I am new here and am not familiar with you or work channeling
> work, but the idea of the Christ chakra is hardly new at all. I've been
> personally teaching that for about 30 years, and the Order of Melchizedek
has
> been teaching it a few thousand years longer than that.
>
> Namaste!
> Uriel
>
> =====================================
> Uriel Andros
> Nasalam - A Spiritual Community for the New Age
> nasalamATnospamaol.com
> http://members.aol.com/nasalam/
> =====================================
> ***List Mystress notes: John Payne is not on the list, he actually runs a
> small list of his own, sending out soul chanellings. "Lessons from the
Soul".
> The kundalini list itself was subscribed to John's list by my
> predecessor, and the list filters send the subscription directly to me.
> Ocasionally a chanelling resonates enough that I feel it needs to be
> redirected to the list. This was one of those.
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 14:58:33
From: Terry Romine <tromineATnospamapple.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Order of Melchizedek
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970822145833.2c176a7eATnospamdomin8rex.com>

>In a message dated 97-08-22 08:40:17 EDT, eg writes:
>>
>> had someone make a mention of the order of melchizedek before and I am
>> STILL wondering what it is. I'd love to hear everything you'd be willing
>> to explain about the o of m.
>>
>
>Trying to explain what the O of M is presents a challenge. There are
>numerous people claiming to be members, priests, high priests... but IMHO
>most of them are deluding themselves. I assume you know the basic facts
>about Melchizedek (Greek name for Melek Zadok - king of righteousness) in the
>Bible. There is more material in the Dead Sea Scrolls and Nag Hammadi
>Library pertaining to who they believed Melchisedek to be. In general they
>(and Edgar Cayce!) believed him to be a prior incarnation of Jesus. I think
>it's pointless to argue whether that's true, but it is part of the mystique.
>
>The Order of Melchizedek -- at least the one I belong to -- considers itself
>to be, rather like Paul's description of Melchizedek, outside of time and
>space, a part of the eternal priesthood that exists throughout the universe
>striving for the unfolding of all beings.
[snip]
>Namaste
>Uriel
>=====================================
>Uriel Andros
>Nasalam - A Spiritual Community for the New Age
>nasalamATnospamaol.com
>http://members.aol.com/nasalam/
>=====================================

Yes, Uriel, that is the Way that I understand it too. Not so much a
religion as a Way of Life. My Opinion on myself, is that I am here to set
an example of how a Light Being should be; compassionate, loving and
caring, spreading knowledge to those who ask, but not forcing any
particular dogma down anyone's throat.

I AM
EaTrom
OoM (hmm... cute how that works out! {grin})
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 1997 15:26:57
From: "Sergio Lucio Maria" <sergiomariaATnospamcidadanet.org.br> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: about Mystic Art
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970822152657.2b4f1eb8ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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___Galeria to Be, it Shines and Sea___
 sergiomariaATnospamcidadanet.org.br
____Sergio Lucio Maria______
http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Spa/2979 /
 
Dear friends,
 
  I have been participating of this list to some time and I have been
discovering many new things also.
  Now I am happy in saying that I and Giedrius are working in a Home Page
about Mystic Art.
  Tuednesday that will still come will include the photos of my pictures
and we everybody can see each other the mystic pictures. They put I am
informing that will be one it makes up in Portuguese.
  However who wants to see the pictures non need to understand Portuguese.
Just go for the link "Arte Mistica". Take advantage of to know my works!
 
  Blessings,
 
  Sérgio
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 01:38:33 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Drugs, sex and kundalini
Message-ID: <33FE7759.61C4ATnospammail.snet.net>

Bliss (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent ) wrote:

> I have such a short attention span...

This can be an asset. You are adept at letting go.

Is an empty mind such a bad thing?

Next time you let go, don't pick anything else up.

> but then there is the line to be drawn
> between 'man-made' and 'natural' drugs of course. Generations of Indians
> can't be wrong...

Everything man does is natural.

Bees make honey.

Men make what they make.

Drugs can be a valid useful tool on the path of self-discovery.

However, I view them like surgery.

You shouldn't have to keep going back.


David
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 01:03:49
From: "Gordon J. Bakken" <bgb0163ATnospamrs195261.ks.boeing.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Question for psychic listmembers. Was:Enlightment
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970823010349.2af774f4ATnospamdomin8rex.com>

> Is Angelique Serpent the physical manifestation of the second oldest
soul, next to God?

I don't claim to be wise enough to know that, but I do claim to be wise
enough to recognize that your wisdom came from somewhere.
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 01:10:14
From: "mohamed omar" <yogi_artATnospamhotmail.com> (by way of Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: from hatha to kundalini
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970823011014.2af7b764ATnospamdomin8rex.com>

X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by mailgw00.execpc.com id MAA27890

Hi everyone

  I was practicing kundalini yoga for about one year and half ,now I
have another one year and half practicing hatha yoga, and I want to go
back to kundalini.
 In my experience, and as I remember..
  1 - kundalini yoga gives me more strength and energy.
  2 - it´s benefits are faster than hatha concerning kundalini rising
and opening chackras ( I have a block in my second chackra now, I think
it happened because of driving the car a long time everyday ).
  3 - it gives the feeling of well-being.
 
Now, here in my country nobody knows about kundalini at all, so I have
no information or guidance but of course I have a book and a lot of
kriyas that I´ve been doing before.
If anybody can answer my questions it will be a real good help
  1 - is there any dangerous or other side effects if I:
 n change the system of practicing ( from hatha to kundalini)?
 n practicing alone?
2- can anyone here in the k-list give me advises when I find any
difficulties, concerning kundalini yoga ( as I already had some before).
Thankx for listening
Blessings to all
Mohamed
yogi_artATnospamhotmail.com

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Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 11:47:49 -0700
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Words and action
Message-ID: <33FF3055.1975ATnospamdial.pipex.com>

Hi Angelique,

Hope you are well.
You talk about service. I need your help. I am on a "spiritual" list
that deals with enlightenment. Now.
The list owners despite being polite (and enlightened - as they often
tell us) do not believe women can become enlightened (yes they are
delusional)
Your mission (should you choose to accept it)
 1. Enter their forum
 2. Convince them of the error of their ways
 3. Promote the cause and power of the feminine
Of course we can all talk about service to the Goddess - I have of
course invited them to the Kundalini forum but I feel you might also
find the effort worthwhile.
I hope you can not think of the numerous excuses - waste of energy etc.
I think you need to be there and I feel they need to be here . . .

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Date: Sat, 23 Aug 1997 16:10:58 +0200
From: "H. Mensing" <hanmeyATnospampi.net>
To: <FIuteATnospamprodigy.net>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Sounds
Message-Id: <199708231412.QAA00485ATnospammailhost.pi.net>

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> Van: FIute <FIuteATnospamprodigy.net>
> Aan: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
> Onderwerp: Sounds
> Datum: vrijdag 22 augustus 1997 17:48
>
> but.. there is also something calld Minear's disease where there is a
> ringing in the ears at all times..

Hi all!
Indeed, an attack of Menieres disease often starts with a ringing in one or
both ears. The characterizing aspect is that one feels quite dizzy,
literally sees the world turn around him or her, often nauseates, is even
vomiting - feels a lot like being seasick - and the quality of hearing
gradually becomes worse after every attack. I read somewhere (think it was
in a book by Detlefsen/Dahlke) this disease is typical for people who are
perfectionists; they try to reach so high, that they lose their
equilibrium. (Could be true for me at the time!) After several attacks
during 5-6 months, the last one came and had me `grounded' for 36 hours.
That was in 1962, but the ringing didn't disappear ever since. The
frequency changes from time to time, so I never get used to it... Sometimes
I hear sounds with a `metallic' extra, browsing a newspaper is as if it is
made of copper sheets and human voices sound as if a carillon is playing.
Has someone experienced this deformation effect?
Love, Hanny

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