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kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #261


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 261

Today's Topics:
  <<<<<Pacific '97
  <<<<<To: weird
  <<<<<Obsidian speaks
  <<<<<Similarities
  Re: <<<<<Synchronicity
  <<<<<Whachamacallit
  Re: <<<<<Obsidian speaks
  Teeths
  Re: <<<<<Shaktipat - its not just for breakfast anymore!
  Re: <<<<<Whachamacallit
  Re: Two Doctors Comment
  computer interference
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 01:49:34 -0700
From: Dan <stampmanATnospamix.netcom.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: <<<<<Pacific '97
Message-ID: <3392891E.242EATnospamix.netcom.com>

Hi y'all,
 Well, I attended Pacific '97, the world philatelic exhibition. Karen
filled in an amazingly large number of holes in her
butterflies-on-stamps want list. She is getting to be quite a
taxonomist/lepidopterist. Was 'happy as a clam when it ain't being dug
for supper'. =-)
 I was concerned about how I would take the crowd and diversity.
Psychical quantity and diversity can be overwhelming as I am not adept
at this point at 'shutting out' the clamor (although, I have improved
immensely over the past yea).
 It went well and except for have sore feet from 8 hours of being on my
feet, I thought nothing outre had occurred. That was MY POV. In
discussing the events, Karen pointed out three interesting things that
may or may not be k-related.
 1. While at the Italian Postal Administration booth Karen swears that I
had a prolonged discussion with the pleasant woman in attendance that
she didn't understand. I was a bit baffled and explained that I was
discussing the interesting fact that the Italians call butterflies,
bowties and the crimped pasta by the same name: farfalle. The odd thing
is, that the discussion was held in Italian (I don't speak Italian).
 2. We took our son Jason who is ADHD along and he exhibited no symptoms
whatsoever during the entire day; as a matter of fact during most of the
time he sat quietly in the lounge reading a book. Karen noted that I on
the other hand would start exhibiting k-kriyas whenever I was near him;
I tend to not pay attention to them as they are a part of my daily life
now (even during sleep).
 3. Again, concerning Jason. Although, I lost my appetite for all meat
(and even dairy products for many months) from the time of my awakening,
Jason has demanded that he have large portions of heavily fat-laden meat
for every meal; and although I am now moderately vegatarian (cheese & a
little nonfat milk is OK) I have never been militant about it.
 During the lunchtime we went to a Chinese servery and Jason ordered
pork chow mein. He started to eat it, got a sickly look on his face,
pushed it away and ask for some money to get something else. I gave him
some, he trotted off, and when he came back he had an armload of FRUIT!

I suppose I am just stretching looking for k-konnections ... whaddya
think?
Love and LAUGHING LIGHT,
Dan-RF
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 02:02:24 -0700
From: Dan <stampmanATnospamix.netcom.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: <<<<<To: weird
Message-ID: <33928C20.5E8DATnospamix.netcom.com>

Hello (k)ites;
 Several of y'all have reported their computers misbehaving and have
blamed k-energy. You all are nuts (macadamias, I think; my favorite =-)!
 On the return recently of a member, I sent a terse message to them that
read as follows:
_____________________
You have changed ... or have I?
Love and LAUGHING LIGHT,
Dan-RF
_____________________
 Don't ask the meaning (I get these weird urges and just act on them ...
am just k-razy I guess). Anyway, I have the Auto-Blind-Copy to myself
set and what came back was not what was sent ... instead, it read simply
this:
_____________________
You have changed
_____________________
 I chalked it up to having done something wrong when I transmitted the
email ... then the person wrote back asking about the cryptic message
and quoted it exactly as the three words above. Again, I thought,
"Whoops, must have done something odd when sending the message". Then it
occurred to me that there is also a folder in my email called "Sent"
which archive all my messages exactly as they were sent. I opened it up
and voila, there is the entire message, signature line and all.
 Does this qualify as a k-ueer event or is there a simpler explanation
(did Occam EVER get a good shave)? BTW, the message sent was what I was
thinking ... the message as written was an afterthought!

Love and LAUGHING LIGHT,
Dan-RF
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 02:44:36 -0700
From: Dan <stampmanATnospamix.netcom.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: <<<<<Obsidian speaks
Message-ID: <33929604.405AATnospamix.netcom.com>

Dearest (k)ites,
 A while ago I posted concerning an obsidian dagger that was found
buried in an Indian mound in Wisconsin and came into my hands briefly
and the channelled message that came from the experience of touching it.
 I was asked to go back to it (mentally, I assumed since it was returned
to the finder many years ago) and do some more psychometry on it. I have
been reluctant as the original message was very disturbing when removed
from the context of a belief system that wholeheartedly endorses human
sacrifice.
 Allowing myself to do so tonight, "the rest of the story" came forward.
There was a second artifact and it 'unfolded' in another set of imagery.
The black obsidian dagger spoke of containing the lifeforce of ten
thousand warriors. From the same mound came an amulet.
 It was flat, about an eighth-inch-thick, made of red and white banded
agate, about three inches in height by two inches in width, polished to
an absolute mirror finish with rounded corners. It had a semicircular
groove incised around the exterior to receive a leather thong by which
it was suspended.
 The amulet belong to a powerful woman; she identified herself as Queen,
Goddess, Mother, Whore, Lover, Demoness, Priestess. She sat in an
incense-smoke-filled room with attendants chanting as she drew a
thorn-studded cord through a hole in her tongue. She didn't cry out as
droplets of blood began forming at the tip of her tongue; instead she
seemed to be in a pythonic ecstacy and her arms and body writhed
sinuously to the gutteral chants of the attendants. One of them held a
woven reed basket filled with strips of paper to catch the falling drops
of blood. As the droplets fell, they sparkled like the faceted eyes of
the hummingbird god and when they struck the strips of paper were
absorbed leaving them with the same striped appearance as the banded red
and white amulet she wore around her neck.
 As another attendant was pulling strips from the basket and placing
them into the fire on a small altar in the room, I asked the woman what
was going on. She smiled, laughed and said, "You know nothing of magic".
"As the written word on paper transmits the spoken word silently from
one human to another, my will written in the force inherent in my blood,
taken down directly from my tongue to the strips you see, is transmitted
by conversion in fire to an ethereal message to the deities. The message
and the sacrifice are one!"
 Out of curiosity (curiouser and curiouser as Alice would say), I called
the man who dug these items up and asked what ever became of them. He
told me that shortly after I gave them back to him he reburied them
where they were found. Someone had told him that if the State
authorities ever got wind of it, they would impound his land (emminent
domain). Fearing this, he thought it better to just put them back where
he found them and never mention it again. Interesting circumstances,
artifacts, and impressions (they seem to be a mix of things, though
can't be sure as I don't know a Maya from and Aztec - may just be maya
though =-).

Sleep tight
Love and LAUGHING LIGHT,
Dan-RF
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 02:51:47 -0700
From: Dan <stampmanATnospamix.netcom.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: <<<<<Similarities
Message-ID: <339297B3.5964ATnospamix.netcom.com>

OK (k)ites,
 Seems a number of y'all have had tailbone injuries - I haven't.
However, I do have a couple of things in common with another on the list
and would be interested to know if anyone else identifies with either of
these:
 1. I have a vestigial third nipple, left side below the regular one.
 2. I have stood at the altar of Chac Mool looking across at the pyramid
of Kulkulcan at Chichen Itza and felt an enormous sense of deja vous.
Went around the temple and was saddened by how much had changed and
wondered what had become of the missing parts.
 I know, ... weird! That's why this is the kundalini list and not the
Captain Kangaroo list!

Love and LAUGHING LIGHT,
Dan-RF
Date: 2 Jun 97 10:33:50
From: Sen Ashanka/AIS spa/IT <Sen_AshankaATnospamAIS01.ais.it>
To: vic bonds <wildwingsATnospampeconic.net>
Cc: kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: <<<<<Synchronicity
Message-Id: <9706021055.AA1559ATnospamAIS01.ais.it>
Content-Type: Text/Plain

Hi everbody,

-----------------------------You wrote ---------------------------------
>I am thinking that you are searching for a reason to
>love all, because the onlyreason that we are doing
>this is love, love, love, it is the heart and soul of
>any romance, of any enlightenment, of any anything
>designed to enable a soul to outlast any troubles
> here on earth, so there is not ego of a Guru involved
>unless He is an up and coming One and does not
>love Himself or others, He has to realize that to
>underplay His Intentions and albilities to heal
>and soothes others is just as egotistical as to
>show it off. The brave souls that do it blatantly
 >and freely do not last unless they are in
>syncronististy with the Gods of everyones romance...
>For Love is the single most effective way to advance
>as a Guru in the making, for it is acceptable
> by most except the ones who make it their business
>to do the oppersite of that and dam the flow of
>infinity and cause the Cosmic Seas of Love to
> stop the hearts of the Gods of Love....Impossible
>to do? Yes!!!
>
>You are too much, Lissette, welcome home to
>Love,
>Ravin' Raven,
>~V~
>---------------------------------------
>In search of truth,
>
>Lissette
>
>
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

In the Indian context, the search for life was similar to the Western way, that
was by generalising from the particular and extracting the common properties.
Like when Newton saw the apple fall, he concluded that all apples fell because
of intrinsic property of matter and not because of some demon. This he called
the Univeral Law of gravity and claimed that this law applies all over the
universe. A very powerful statement, considering that this plant is one
miniscule portion of the universe, but the human mind had expanded enough to be
confident of the functioning of the entire universe.

The way of science is thus the way of generalisation.

In a similar manner, the Indian yogis (they were also called theoritical
scientists) tried to find out commonalities in nature. First step being all men
came in one category of humans. Then the man and the animal came under the
category of aminals, then man, animals, plants came under the category of
living things. Then the man, animals, plants and non-living things came under
the category of matter. This was a large generalisation. Finally, all matter,
and space in between was put into another broader category called existence.
There is no further generalisation.

It is this existence that is under study. This is infinite and unbound. Cannot
be comprehended byt he mind or the limited intellect. The only way to
experience this vastness is to transcend the mind, body and intellect. Further
to this theory, the yogis and rishis ascerted that there is one and only one
infinite existence and that is universal. When your consciousness is expanded
to the universe, then every bit if existence is a part of your consciousness.
The entire energy is yours, the happiness of all creation is yours. Since you
are a part of the supreme Infinite consciousness, you (as in your
consciousness) is a part of everybody's consciousness. So it is logical,
natural and perfect to love everybody as yourself. This is an intrinsic
property of all consciousness, like gravitational attraction is a property
intrinsic to all matter.

So we have to love, and grow our consciousnesss till we realise our Infinite
potential. That is the only truth.....

We are all little waves in the oceon of infinite, a temporary form to evolve,
and then merge back into that supreme consciousness after our little play on
Earth is done.

Cheers and love to all
Ashanka
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 03:18:40 -0700
From: Dan <stampmanATnospamix.netcom.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: <<<<<Whachamacallit
Message-ID: <33929E00.3F65ATnospamix.netcom.com>

G'day (k)ites,
 It seems that every experience I go through has got a name ... the
latest one added to my 'vocabulary of the weird' is psychometry.
However, noone has given me a name for the following:
 Periodically, I 'open up' an 'eye' or 'sight' or whatever and 'see'
macrocosmically or alternative microcosmically. These are usually
somewhat harrowing as they involve perceiving impressions that have no
spoken vocabulary to express. When the impressions become unbearable, I
just force them to stop. They are always most interesting and probably
reflect some inner childlike view of reality that can't be based on
fact.
 A recent example was standing and viewing the 'space' between
atomic/subatomic particles and on closer examination seeing the roiling
boil of possible particles coming into and popping out of existance
constantly, then reaching into the jacuzzi-like froth, parting it to
reveal the entire universes (yes, plural), both of all of the universes
and how they existed only as dichotomies and how their dichotomies
existed because of the framework of time and how time was made of a
lattice of possiblities that gained dimension from the interstices of
possibilites with impossibility as the underlying structure of all.
 I know psychiatrists probably have a term for the mental ramblings like
the foregoing, I was just wondering is there a mystical/spiritual term
for it?

Love and LAUGHING LIGHT,
Dan-RF
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 06:44:49 -0400
From: brenda.asterinoATnospamdragonbbs.com (brenda asterino)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: <<<<<Obsidian speaks
Message-Id: <1.5.4.32.19970602104449.006a8c48ATnospamdragonbbs.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I do remember reading something a few months ago about the Mayans. It
exactly described the blood letting as you have.

Brenda


At 02:44 AM 6/2/97 -0700, you wrote:
>Dearest (k)ites,
> A while ago I posted concerning an obsidian dagger that was found
>buried in an Indian mound in Wisconsin and came into my hands briefly
>and the channelled message that came from the experience of touching it.
> I was asked to go back to it (mentally, I assumed since it was returned
>to the finder many years ago) and do some more psychometry on it. I have
>been reluctant as the original message was very disturbing when removed
>from the context of a belief system that wholeheartedly endorses human
>sacrifice.
> Allowing myself to do so tonight, "the rest of the story" came forward.
>There was a second artifact and it 'unfolded' in another set of imagery.
>The black obsidian dagger spoke of containing the lifeforce of ten
>thousand warriors. From the same mound came an amulet.
> It was flat, about an eighth-inch-thick, made of red and white banded
>agate, about three inches in height by two inches in width, polished to
>an absolute mirror finish with rounded corners. It had a semicircular
>groove incised around the exterior to receive a leather thong by which
>it was suspended.
> The amulet belong to a powerful woman; she identified herself as Queen,
>Goddess, Mother, Whore, Lover, Demoness, Priestess. She sat in an
>incense-smoke-filled room with attendants chanting as she drew a
>thorn-studded cord through a hole in her tongue. She didn't cry out as
>droplets of blood began forming at the tip of her tongue; instead she
>seemed to be in a pythonic ecstacy and her arms and body writhed
>sinuously to the gutteral chants of the attendants. One of them held a
>woven reed basket filled with strips of paper to catch the falling drops
>of blood. As the droplets fell, they sparkled like the faceted eyes of
>the hummingbird god and when they struck the strips of paper were
>absorbed leaving them with the same striped appearance as the banded red
>and white amulet she wore around her neck.
> As another attendant was pulling strips from the basket and placing
>them into the fire on a small altar in the room, I asked the woman what
>was going on. She smiled, laughed and said, "You know nothing of magic".
>"As the written word on paper transmits the spoken word silently from
>one human to another, my will written in the force inherent in my blood,
>taken down directly from my tongue to the strips you see, is transmitted
>by conversion in fire to an ethereal message to the deities. The message
>and the sacrifice are one!"
> Out of curiosity (curiouser and curiouser as Alice would say), I called
>the man who dug these items up and asked what ever became of them. He
>told me that shortly after I gave them back to him he reburied them
>where they were found. Someone had told him that if the State
>authorities ever got wind of it, they would impound his land (emminent
>domain). Fearing this, he thought it better to just put them back where
>he found them and never mention it again. Interesting circumstances,
>artifacts, and impressions (they seem to be a mix of things, though
>can't be sure as I don't know a Maya from and Aztec - may just be maya
>though =-).
>
>Sleep tight
>Love and LAUGHING LIGHT,
>Dan-RF
>
>
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 08:24:15 -0700
From: John Halonen <halonenjATnospamix.netcom.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Teeths
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970602082413.0069660cATnospampopd.ix.netcom.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I've had this dream several times a while back.
All my teeth would fall out into the sink.
I know it had a deeper meaning, but I can tell you I brush regularly now. :)

Peace and light
John Halonen
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 09:19:14
From: Melissa Shubha Smith <ganesha1ATnospamix.netcom.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: <<<<<Shaktipat - its not just for breakfast anymore!
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970602091914.4107ba5aATnospampopd.ix.netcom.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 07:12:47
>To: lissetteATnospambridge.net
>From: Melissa Shubha Smith <ganesha1ATnospamix.netcom.com>
>Subject: Re: <<<<<Shaktipat - its not just for breakfast anymore!
>In-Reply-To: <33911FB4.22D5ATnospambridge.net>
>References: <199705291424.JAA16631ATnospamdfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com>
<3.0.1.16.19970530065011.4b3fd3b6ATnospampopd.ix.netcom.com>
<339192C8.23B3ATnospamix.netcom.com>
>
>At 03:07 AM 6/1/97 -0400, you wrote:
>>Dan,
>>I just read your "judgement" post. Where did you get the information
>>about Muktananda? Anyone can write anything they please, but are you
>>certain of what you are saying? Do you have a documentation on it?
>>Then supposing you don"t, why should I take your word for it?
>>Besides whatever happened it does not take away receiving shaktipat from
>>his beingness.
>>In search of truth,
>>Lissette
>>
>>Yes, Dan, I find it interesting as well that you base your observations,
judgements, and knowledge of Siddha Yoga Awakening on a very negative
letter posted to the kundalini list about Muktananda and Chidvilasananda. I
might point out to you that this letter was unsigned and obviously written
by someone who was really going thru hell in thier sadhana and in such
great pain that they were playing a point and blame game.
>Such letters are so negative and evil that it makes me wonder that someone
would even give them any credance or importance.
>
>I don't think you are as "knowledgable and such an expert on the
Guru/Disciple Relationship" as you porport to be. This relationship can be
extremely important to the guidance and upliftment of a spiritual seeker.
Maybe not for you...maybe you haven't had the grace to experience this on
conscious level in this lifetime yet. Even in your attainment....you
mentioned that you ..."don't like crowds"...if you were truly awakened and
attained you would see "god" in the people in the crowds. You would be
truly pleased to be in the presense of so much god energy! Surely a
spiritual meditation master would have opened you to this experience...its
a commen step on the path...instead of seeing god...you see
negativity...what kinda awakening is this Dan?
>
>I have the vibe, that you were probably awakened in another lifetime and
that your experiences in this lifetime are from such an past life
shaktipat. The fact that you went to observe a shaktipat master tells me
that you are still seeking and that even tho you have it all and know the
essence lies inside you...you don't have the experience of being
psychologically grounded in your own and everyone elses godness.
>
>BTW...shaktipat can be transmitted by look, thought, touch, or word. There
are four methods.
>
>Have you read "Play of Conciousness"? Have you ever met Gurumayi
Chidvilasananda ( Baba Muktananda's successor, he left his body in 1982 ).
These are true and awakened Kundalini Masters of the Highest Degree. I know
of none on this planet who come close. I am sure there are many and I would
feel infinate happiness to meet them as well. The planet is truly blessed
to have such beings walking on it at this time. Such beings often attract
alot of hatred and controversy. Just look at what they did to Jesus ( a
shaktipat Master if there ever was one) or many other saints who have also
walked the earth. I would reserve my judgement and expert commentary until
actually meeting them, which I urge you to do if ever given the
opportunity. I think it would be a real eye opener for you and help you
understand your own awakening and sadhana (spiritual path)as well as the
spiritual path of other kundalini awakened spiritual seekers a little
better. There ARE NO COMPARISONS...one path is not "better than another"
and "one type of awakening is not better than another"...there are no
"better thans" on the path. There is only light, consciousness, and god.
See these things....understand these things...ground yourself in
them.....then there are "no judgements"...then there is only light....the
clouds of judgement blown away and the sun of infinate sparkle and juice
seeps into our being...sweetening and purifying our eyes and ears to the
music of this universe.
>Om sweet Om
>You have alot of Light Dan and you have the courage to grow and change, I
can feel this. Please do not take offence at the things I am saying to you.
Please see that they are said with Love and Grace for the understanding of
spiritual path. Please honor the path of others as you honor your own path
and be open to the energetic transmission behind the words, meanings, and
structures/concepts of logic.
>With Love and Light on the Path for the path is narrow and the light
shined by the flashlight of those who have traveled ahead of us...is a
blessing...and a boon.
>Om
>Melissa/Shubha/Ganesha
>>
REIKI Master Melissa Shubha Smith
Mastery in the Usui System of REIKI Healing
The REIKI Lightway - The Heart is The Hub of All Spaces, Go There and Roam
http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/3035

Rosary and Prayer Bead International - designs by Melissa Shubha Smith
http://web.idirect.com/~innerspa/mss.html

e-mail:
ganesha1ATnospamix.netcom.com

IRC: Server: irc.superlink.net Channel: #bridge Nick: Ganesha
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 09:19:51
From: Melissa Shubha Smith <ganesha1ATnospamix.netcom.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: <<<<<Whachamacallit
Message-Id: <3.0.1.16.19970602091951.41071e38ATnospampopd.ix.netcom.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>Date: Mon, 02 Jun 1997 07:37:23
>To: stampmanATnospamix.netcom.com
>From: Melissa Shubha Smith <ganesha1ATnospamix.netcom.com>
>Subject: Re: <<<<<Whachamacallit
>In-Reply-To: <33929E00.3F65ATnospamix.netcom.com>
>
>At 03:18 AM 6/2/97 -0700, you wrote:
>>G'day (k)ites,
>> SNIP>>>>It seems that every experience I go through has got a name ...
>> A recent example was standing and viewing the 'space' between
>>atomic/subatomic particles and on closer examination seeing the roiling
>>boil of possible particles coming into and popping out of existance
>>constantly, then reaching into the jacuzzi-like froth, parting it to
>>reveal the entire universes (yes, plural), both of all of the universes
>>and how they existed only as dichotomies and how their dichotomies
>>existed because of the framework of time and how time was made of a
>>lattice of possiblities that gained dimension from the interstices of
>>possibilites with impossibility as the underlying structure of all.
>>
>>Love and LAUGHING LIGHT,
>>Dan-RF>>>>>SNIP
>
>Dear Dan,
>
>well in sanscrit terms, this is what I think comes close to what you are
speaking about.
>
>CHAITANYA: "Spirit, consciousness, especially higher consciousness;
Supreme Being."A widely used term, often preceded by
>modifiers, e.g., sakshi chaitanya, "witness consciousness," or bhakti
chaitanya, "devotional consciousness," or Sivachaitanya,
>"God consciousness.
>
>CHITTA: "Mind; consciousness." Mind-stuff. On the personal level, it is
that in which mental impressions and experiences are
>recorded. Seat of the conscious, subconscious and superconscious states,
and of the three-fold mental faculty, called
>antahkarana, consisting of buddhi, manas and ahamkara.consciousness:
Chitta or chaitanya. 1) A synonym for mind-stuff, chitta; or 2) the
condition or power of perception,
>awareness, apprehension. There are myriad gradations of consciousness,
from the simple sentience of inanimate matter to the
>consciousness of basic life forms, to the higher consciousness of human
embodiment, to omniscient states of
>superconsciousness, leading to immersion in the One universal
consciousness, Parashakti
>>
>CONSCIOUNESS: Chitta or chaitanya. 1) A synonym for mind-stuff, chitta; or
2) the condition or power of perception,
>awareness, apprehension. There are myriad gradations of consciousness,
from the simple sentience of inanimate matter to the
>consciousness of basic life forms, to the higher consciousness of human
embodiment, to omniscient states of
>superconsciousness, leading to immersion in the One universal
consciousness, Parashakti
>>
>
>I hope you find these definitions helpful. Noticing these different "MIND
STATES" is called "Witness Consciousness".
>
>Yours on the path of Love and Light,
>Melissa/Shubha/Ganesha
REIKI Master Melissa Shubha Smith
Mastery in the Usui System of REIKI Healing
The REIKI Lightway - The Heart is The Hub of All Spaces, Go There and Roam
http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/3035

Rosary and Prayer Bead International - designs by Melissa Shubha Smith
http://web.idirect.com/~innerspa/mss.html

e-mail:
ganesha1ATnospamix.netcom.com

IRC: Server: irc.superlink.net Channel: #bridge Nick: Ganesha
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 08:32:48 -0500 (CDT)
From: hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.)
To: TPp40ATnospamaol.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Two Doctors Comment
Message-Id: <199706021332.IAA18658ATnospamdfw-ix10.ix.netcom.com>

You wrote:
>
>Re: tail bone. Has anyone heard of the condition of having an extra
>undeveloped section at the base of the spine and the associated pain.
Was
>something that had to be surgicaly removed from my father, myself, and
my
>youngest sister. Now, is there a correlation between this and the
falling on
>the tail bone as spoken of?
> Thanks, Tom F
>
>
I had this also, was told it was a cyst that was removed in infancy and
always wondered about the scar -- lots of pain there during body work.
I didn't connect it with kundalini till this ongoing discussion. Had
bad fall onto my coccyx as a child, as well. When I was young I firmly
believed that somebody told me that one day I would "wake up." I ran
from this, was disappointed by it, denied it, forgot it, until it
finally happened. Only in the last year have I started to connect this
knowing with other major physical episodes in my life. Now I'm saying
to myself, "well, duh!!" Holly
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 1997 15:51:29 +0200 (MDT)
From: japserATnospamwin.tue.nl
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: computer interference
Message-Id: <199706021351.PAA04121ATnospamwsannw13.win.tue.nl>
Content-Type: text

Dan said:
>
> Hello (k)ites;
> Several of y'all have reported their computers misbehaving and have
> blamed k-energy. You all are nuts (macadamias, I think; my favorite =-)!

Hello,

i did not experience the same `errors' as Dan, but i have something
similar and i'd like your opinion on this.
When i'm meditating, i use my cd-rom as a cd-player. But when i'm
going deeper to expand/heal the cd's just starts getting in a loop or
even stops. it does not happen when i use the cdplayer as a provider
for background music.

Is it possible that by meditating the change in brainwaves (from beta
to alpha or even theta/delta) affects the computer? Is anyone familiar
with this or do i have a jealous cdplayer? :)

Smile,
Jasper
      One can only lean on what resists

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