1997/04/07  08:01  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #149 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 97 : Issue 149
 
Today's Topics: 
  The Three Gunas 
  balance 
  FATHER MALACHI'S WARNING! 
  [Fwd: Re: sex and Tantra - a few technical points] 
  Love with God 
  Re: That Man/Woman thing-thang 
  Re: FATHER MALACHI'S WARNING! 
  Personal Mother - Shakti? 
  Re: balance 
  Re: FATHER MALACHI'S WARNING! 
  Re: That Man/Woman thing-thang 
  Re: That Man/Woman Thing-thang--David White 
  Wishing Well 
  Re: working from home 
  SPIRITUAL RENEWAL COURSE 
Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 06:49:45 +1000 
From: Jens Grejsen <jogATnospamozemail.com.au> 
To: Kundalini <Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: The Three Gunas 
Message-ID: <33480C69.1BDAATnospamozemail.com.au> 
 
Dear people,
 
I'm new to this site, and thirsty for knowledge. I'm particularly 
interested in the three Gunas (Prakrti - the three states of matter) 
which are Sattva, Raja and Tamas and how they relate to the three 
sheaths around the Citrini through which (if conditions are right, the 
Kundalini travels on its path to join Earth with Heaven). Is there 
anyone out there who have some 'current' knowledge/experience they would 
like to share on this topic?
 
I have read Arthur Avalon (Sir John Woodroffe): The Serpent Power, 
Dover, N.Y., c1916, pp. 52+. However, I would dearly like some 
up-to-date information not couched in archaic terminology. 
 
Love and peace,
 
jens 
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 13:37:30 -0700 (MST) 
From: Cameron <purenrgATnospamgoodnet.com> 
To: K list <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: balance 
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Everyone,
 
First, many thanks to everyone who responded to my rather irrational 
posting Friday.  Not only did I not express myself very clearly, but I 
made it seem like there was a big 'ol problem in my relationship.  What 
was *truly* the case is this:  Annie gets times where she feels rather 
disconnected from source and asks me for a little meditative hand. 
However, she will often get frustrated and want to quit after a short time 
due to unnecessary attachments to results.  This makes the sepratation 
greater at times.  When this happens, I just let her know that I am 
available if she wants to talk and then give her some space to work 
it out on her own which she usually does just fine.
 
I was reacting (oops) to an extreme version of this scenario that had very 
recently occured and which was weighing on my mind.  My ego wasn't 
accepting things as they come in their own beauty.  Old control patterns 
were trying to come out...Ego doesn't like it when sought after help is 
suddenly rejected.  Actually, the letter I wrote was very cathardic as 
once I had sent it the impact of my folly sunk in and was released. :-)
 
In these days of sometimes extremly high energy fluctuations (and not just 
in the realm of K) within myself and my sphere of sensation, it can be 
easy for ego to become overwhelemed and seek external validation.  When I 
see this happening, I quiet down and take a broader view of events which 
helps me to see the beauty in all things...even when "rational" mind 
falsely percieves a problem.  All the wonderful advice from the listers 
helped to reinforce the benefet of that practice.
 
On a funny note...Annie and I were giving our dog healing energy last 
night (each in our own way) when she remarked, "It's so cool how easy it 
can be to connect to source...You'd think there would a charge."  :-)
 
(I can barely *imagine* that I thought there was a problem on Friday :-)
 
In Acceptance(most of the time) and Love,
 
Cameron
 
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 Cameron Dye                      | "Existence is pure joy...sorrows are 
 purenrgATnospamgoodnet.com              | but as shadows; they pass & are done; 
 A really great home page:        | but there is that which remains." 
 http://www.goodnet.com/~purenrg  |         - The Book of the Law - 
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Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 16:47:40 -0400 (EDT) 
From: voltronATnospamvoy.net (Jon Locke) 
To: voltronATnospamvoy.net 
Subject: FATHER MALACHI'S WARNING! 
Message-Id: <v01530500af6d735ace81ATnospam[209.42.129.137]> 
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On the Art Bell Radio Show Friday night, Saturday morning, was his guest, 
Father Malachi Martin. he is a Catholic Priest of the Jesuit Order. Highly 
disciplined in the field of Exorcism. In his 70s, he has been around for a 
long time. He was on the show for 5 hours before Art got around to 
predictions. Asked aboutt he near future, Father Malachi said, "If you see 
something phenomenal in the sky between April 15th and May 31st, 1997, you 
shall know it is the beginning of the shake up in the social, religious and 
financial orders. If nothing happens during that time then we are safe for 
awhile." He said the event, if it happens, would be seen in the sky by 
every eye. 
Pass it on, Jon
 
P.S. Art BEll's Web Site is required reading for the First Wave of 
Ascension. Questions will be asked aboard ship upon arrival. 
http://www.artbell.com/
 
Jon Locke 
The Philosopher's Stone 
http://www.voy.net/~voltron/ 
Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 16:52:58 -0700 
From: Phillip & Leigh Hurley <lphurleyATnospamplainfield.bypass.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: [Fwd: Re: sex and Tantra - a few technical points] 
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Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 16:52:00 -0700 
From: Phillip & Leigh Hurley <lphurleyATnospamplainfield.bypass.com> 
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To: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk> 
Subject: Re: sex and Tantra - a few technical points 
References: <VJNQYHAcV9RzEwOkATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk> 
 
Tom Aston wrote: 
  
> Not a pope, but do like some aspects of mystical Christianity...and i 
> know what you're saying here...thought for a long time before posting 
> it...but. well, wouldn't like comfortable Tantric myths
 
What's this? - tantra's not typically perceived as a comfortable 
discipline, and I don't know any comfortable tantric myths...
 
> about sex and 
> the left handed path to fool a kundalini yogi into actually trying it 
> without knowing the possible downside.
 
All life has a down side from a physical point of view - it's called 
death....  Kali eats all her children, brahmacharya and tantrics alike. 
>  
> had a read of your pages and liked them. especially the themes of 
> globalism, interdependence and cooperation. am writing on these themes 
> of personal and global myself...but would have been more interested to 
> hear positive views as Christianity is an easy target and content seemed 
> to dwell on its problems....
 
A target is as a target does.  There are major problems with 
Christianity that most of us have integrated into our perceptual 
constructs, and from a tantric perspective, they need to be seen as 
cultural biases, not cosmic truths.
 
> as i said - this was a technical point about people working with shakti 
> and "free love" in the specific context of a debate about left hand 
> Tantra. I doubt that people who have mastered this art would be on the 
> kundalini list somehow, although maybe i'm wrong here....in general, 
> Tantra is not recommended until one has a firm foundation in meditation, 
> compassion, wisdom and devotion at the very least, as far as i know, so 
> i was assuming that one already had a deep connection to the "universal" 
> nature of mind and energy and spiritual practice....that's basically 
> taken for granted in everything we write on the list 
>  
> if you've experienced shakti awakening from the muladhara or read some 
> of the yogic literature you will probably be aware of the dangers of the 
> energy getting concentrated in the lower chakras before they have been 
> purified.....if someone had told me that even "normal" sex can gradually 
> undermine one's purity in these centres as one rides along with all the 
> Western popular misconceptions about sex and the spiritual path i may 
> well have saved myself and others a lot of grief.  i got into spiritual 
> trouble for a while just from a fairly conventional sex life, so i hate 
> to think what can happen if one actually purposefully indulged without 
> understanding the full implications of what was going on....there is a 
> scientific aspect of yogic understanding which helps one understand the 
> subtle safeguards and symbolism of the right hand Tantra in which there 
> are very clear warnings about these things and mechanisms to bypass the 
> dangerous drops. 
>  
> So if you're working with shakti, by all means do what you like, 
> sexually or otherwise, but i wouldn't base my actions on homilies about 
> the cosmic nature of Tantra as  generalities about life, existence and 
> the universe are often the first things to prove useless when handling a 
> rampant kundalini awakening and, if followed, can rapidly produce a 
> karmic disaster on a grand scale before one even knows what one has done 
> wrong.
 
Making mistakes is part of the learning process. 
>  
> there is a clinical technical esoteric aspect to Tantra which the 
> conditioned mind does not like at all, as it basically spells its 
> deathknell and undermines many of its most deeply assumptions about 
> everything, including sex.
 
True!
 
> it really doesn't matter whether we agree or not to be honest, but if 
> you channel the awakened shakti into the lower centres you are playing a 
> dangerous game - you play if you like, but i'm not sure it's a good idea 
> to encourage others to do so too. 
  
Obviously you think I am a stupid person... Why do you think that what I 
do is play and what you do is serious?
 
> My guru is the shakti and the unbrakable principles of trust and 
> spiritual friendship and i have been silent for 14 years since shaktipat 
> exactly because i knew that telling people that this is how the chakras 
> work when shakti is awakened would not be popular with Westerners in 
> particular. 
>  
> Interestingly enough, your email is the first negative email i've 
> received amongst hundreds, many on the theme of sex, so it's a useful 
> exercise for myself just to see if i can articulate this esoteric 
> understanding.....surely we must have something in common here as i 
> cannot believe you don't realise there's dangers in the lower nature 
> hijacking sexual relationships, for instance, especially when practicing 
> Tantra with all its links to the occult ?
 
It appears to me that you are using the term "occult" in a negative 
sense. All the term means is "hidden."  As kundalini is activated and 
circulated, we gain vidya, that which was hidden is plain to see.
 
> what i'd really be interested in is - instead of a general criticism 
> that i'm just not open to other paths concerning sexual relationships - 
> to hear is whether  these points are wrong - for instance, does sexual 
> energy not remain concentrated in the muladhara and svadhisthana  in 
> conventional sex ? 
 
No.
 
>how does one avoid the arising of animal and lust 
> consciousness in sex over time ?
 
One should not avoid it, one should balance it - ida-pingala-sushumna
 
> how does one know whether the logic and 
> language of the manipura in justifying sexual licence is not just a 
> subtle disguise for indulging the physical and sensual ego ? 
> is not the 
> waste of sexual energy and fluids once the shakti has awakened a bad 
> move ? 
 
No. Everything is rooted in reciprocity.  You get back exactly what you 
put out.
 
>what happens to the karma of one's sexual partner if they are not 
> able to maintain spiritual consciousness during sex ?  
>why should both 
> yoga and Chinese medicine discourage the waste of sexual fluids and 
> energies ? doesn't sex tend to reinforce the identification with the 
> physical body when detachment may be healthier at certain points of the 
> spiritual path ? etc etc etc i could find nothing about any of this on 
> your pages so if you want to, feel free to answer any of these points - 
> which are surely of practical concern to any shakti yogi practicing sex 
> - especially if you're serious when you say i don't understand sexual 
> relationships and my teacher is no good and i'm intolerant of other 
> paths... ? 
>  
> this is an old debate actually, as left hand Tantra has been criticised 
> by many spiritual teachers over the years as dangerous, degenerate and 
> self-destructive....and some have even gone further and condemned tantra 
> in general for similar reasons...
 
Does this condemnation by some people make tantra yoga invalid to you? 
Five million Baptists would agree...
 
>and i can see why even though i found 
> certain aspects of tantra very positive and pure. it has its dangers and 
> surely we should be debating these dangers in a detailed, practical and 
> focussed manner on the kundalini list as there are people with genuine 
> dilemmas and problems, specifically with shakti, reading this stuff and 
> maybe even acting on it....my policy is simply safety first, cosmic 
> consciousness later
 
There is no real safety in life - you are fooling yourself. This is why 
tantrics meditate in the graveyard as a beginning discipline, and is 
clearly illustrated in the first tarot card with the picture of the fool 
about to step off the cliff -  that's us...
 
>.....better to do no harm and take modest steps 
> towards enlightenment, than leap for the sky and fall into a chasm never 
> even knowing there was a secret law called gravity...
 
And they told the Wright brothers that people would never fly...
 
You ask good questions, I'm sorry I must be brief today - if you wish 
elucidation on any specific point, ask....
 
Make Love!  Leigh
 
"Tantra teaches that Artha(prosperity), kama (fulfilment of sensual 
desires), dharma (spiritual and moral duty), and moksa (release from it 
all) are one...  The tantric hero (vira) goes through the sphere of 
greatest danger, and rises by means of nature, not by rejecting it." 
 
Vivian Worthington - A History of Yoga, p.110   
 
http://plainfield.bypass.com/~lphurley/ 
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 18:52:27 +0100 
From: Charles Wildbank <wildbankATnospampeconic.net> 
To: :ATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Love with God 
Message-Id: <22522758900076ATnospampeconic.net> 
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> 
>Perhaps this non sexual state of being completely in love, which is often 
>felt towards a lover, is also a big part of the equation which were 
>forgetting.  The God/Goddess refering to how we feel with a lover, during or 
>right after sex, but instead towards ourselves and everything in our reality. 
> 
>Infinite Love till your dizzy and giggling 
>:) 
>Aaron
 
Dear Aaron,
 
This big Kundalini awakening....how old were you and what were the circumstances 
around that moment, were you meditating, if so, how actively involved were 
you in 
meditating or any other practice that you felt triggered the Kundalini 
awakening? 
Any suggestions for some of us who haven't had any big awakening yet?
 
Charles 
Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 15:55:08 -0700 
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com> 
To: DChern1123ATnospamaol.com 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: That Man/Woman thing-thang 
Message-ID: <334829CC.4D32ATnospambest.com> 
 
DChern1123ATnospamaol.com wrote: 
>  
> Morgana, with respects, where in the animal  kingdom is same sex going on all 
> the time? Give me a break. I think you will.Denis
 
Ask any rancher, especially one who raises sheep. A small percentage 
prefer the same sex. Not a lot, maybe 3% , but it's a constant. 
How would you like your break, hot or on ice? 
Morgana 
Date: Sun, 6 Apr 1997 19:01:32 -0400 (EDT) 
From: VidentATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: FATHER MALACHI'S WARNING! 
Message-ID: <970406190130_570996426ATnospamemout03.mail.aol.com>
 
Many years ago I was reading Fr. Martin's book about several possessions and 
exorcizisms.  It was truly horrorific for me.  Every time I picked up the 
book to read it something really bizarre would physically happen in my house. 
 I was out to dinner with a friend and our husbands when the friend looked at 
me and said " you're reading something very disturbing, aren't you?"  I 
nearly fell off my chair.  "Get rid of it as soon as you get home", she said. 
 "It's having a very bad effect on you and your house."  I did this.  The 
images in that book have always followed me, though. 
 S. 
Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 22:45:23 -0500 
From: Ana Maria  
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Personal Mother - Shakti? 
Message-ID: <33486DD3.4A50ATnospamprismnet.com> 
 
Greetings all!
 
I have been lurking for the past few days and I've had so much fun reading and already learned so much  
from reading all of the posts.
 
Perhaps this is not the best moment (or just the right moment) to introduce myself - I am writing from a  
moment of confusion - just after an emotional encounter with my mother. I hope I'll be able to put some  
words down coherently and that perhaps someone on this list has some insight through my fog.
 
I've been aware of kundalini (as a concept and its effects) for several (12) years now. I have meditated,  
practiced yoga, studied ayur-ved, gone for long walks, learned about hands-on, met with shamans, danced in  
the moonlight, cooked until dawn and many other things as well but I'm not really interested in discussing  
these right now. 
 
I have been able to bring what I know into many aspects of my life and into many relationships - all  
except the one I have with my mother. It continues to be the most reactive and regressive realtionship I  
have. She seems to hold me responsible for every slight I have ever caused her - and even as I try to work  
through my own attachments of feeling "wronged" by her - and try having a relationship with her in this  
moment - all forces seem to pull us back into the past.
 
My fear of her power over me and my moods has greatly diminished  - but the effect she used to have on me  
was of making me full of holes - like swiss cheese. Perhaps I have had a similar effect on her - I don't  
know I can't see this way around her. Now I just feel very frustrated and angry - I want to have some sort  
of relationship with her  - I feel I need her. Perhaps I just need Great Mother. But the personal level  
also exists . . .
 
How to make progress through historic resentments? How can I be gentle enough with all concerned when I  
just want to scream?
 
I greatly appreciate any of your comments - 
 
Ana Maria 
A whirling fire sprite who's wanting to go into the sweat lodge 
Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 19:22:20 +0000 
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com> 
To: Cameron <purenrgATnospamgoodnet.com> 
CC: K list <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: balance 
Message-ID: <3347F7EB.3620ATnospamintercomm.com> 
 
Cameron wrote: 
>  
> Everyone, 
>  
> First, many thanks to everyone who responded to my rather irrational 
> posting Friday.  Not only did I not express myself very clearly, but I 
> made it seem like there was a big 'ol problem in my relationship.  What 
> was *truly* the case is this:  Annie gets times where she feels rather 
> disconnected from source and asks me for a little meditative hand. 
> However, she will often get frustrated and want to quit after a short time 
> due to unnecessary attachments to results.  This makes the sepratation 
> greater at times.  When this happens, I just let her know that I am 
> available if she wants to talk and then give her some space to work 
> it out on her own which she usually does just fine. 
>  
> I was reacting (oops) to an extreme version of this scenario that had very 
> recently occured and which was weighing on my mind.  My ego wasn't 
> accepting things as they come in their own beauty.  Old control patterns 
> were trying to come out...Ego doesn't like it when sought after help is 
> suddenly rejected.  Actually, the letter I wrote was very cathardic as 
> once I had sent it the impact of my folly sunk in and was released. :-) 
>  
> In these days of sometimes extremly high energy fluctuations (and not just 
> in the realm of K) within myself and my sphere of sensation, it can be 
> easy for ego to become overwhelemed and seek external validation.  When I 
> see this happening, I quiet down and take a broader view of events which 
> helps me to see the beauty in all things...even when "rational" mind 
> falsely percieves a problem.  All the wonderful advice from the listers 
> helped to reinforce the benefet of that practice. 
>  
> On a funny note...Annie and I were giving our dog healing energy last 
> night (each in our own way) when she remarked, "It's so cool how easy it 
> can be to connect to source...You'd think there would a charge."  :-) 
>  
> (I can barely *imagine* that I thought there was a problem on Friday :-) 
>  
> 
HI, Hey this was a good lesson it means you are getting to detach faster 
and that is a big step, plus being able to share it. I'd say there has 
been progress. Gloria 
Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 19:39:35 +0000 
From: Gloria Greco <lodpressATnospamintercomm.com> 
To: VidentATnospamaol.com 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: FATHER MALACHI'S WARNING! 
Message-ID: <3347FBF5.1F3ATnospamintercomm.com> 
 
VidentATnospamaol.com wrote: 
>  
> Many years ago I was reading Fr. Martin's book about several possessions and 
> exorcizisms.  It was truly horrorific for me.  Every time I picked up the 
> book to read it something really bizarre would physically happen in my house. 
>  I was out to dinner with a friend and our husbands when the friend looked at 
> me and said " you're reading something very disturbing, aren't you?"  I 
> nearly fell off my chair.  "Get rid of it as soon as you get home", she said. 
>  "It's having a very bad effect on you and your house."  I did this.  The 
> images in that book have always followed me, though.
 
Hi RAther then react to this, look at it as an illusion. Those faces are 
very much a part of the astral world, but it is the result of misused 
energies. If you train yourself to look at it without thought and really 
use detachment, then when you face something like this on the other side 
you just immediately dismiss it through the Christ power. At some point 
you do meet this stuff and it is very helpful if you work on 
fearlessness now. My book goes into both high and low frequencies for 
this very reason. Detachment is the essential tool for moving from one 
step to the next. Gloria 
>                                                                        S. 
Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 23:45:14 -0500 
From: Ana Maria  
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: That Man/Woman thing-thang 
Message-ID: <33487BDA.419ATnospamprismnet.com> 
 
There are also many bird species and apes that do, possibly all  
species, it's part of orthodox evolutionary theory (sterile workers for  
the gene poll and all of that) but that's exceddingly dry. Check out  
Richard Dawkins _The Extended Phenotype_ if you'd like more . . .
 
> > Morgana, with respects, where in the animal  kingdom is same sex going on all 
> > the time? Give me a break. I think you will.Denis 
>  
> Ask any rancher, especially one who raises sheep. A small percentage 
> prefer the same sex. Not a lot, maybe 3% , but it's a constant. 
> How would you like your break, hot or on ice? 
> Morgana 
Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 22:12:35 
From: ori^ <oriATnospameskimo.com> 
To: Kundalini-l <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: That Man/Woman Thing-thang--David White 
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David White wrote: 
>What I don't quite understand is what happens in Homosexual relationships. 
Is  
>the goddess to be found in a male person, or a the god in a female person?
 
The simple answer is Yes!  (or shall I say... *One* simple answer)
 
The not-so-simple answer is we are all *both* male and female in  
different blends and percentages.  Just because we happen to be born  
in a male or female body doesn't mean we don't have access to the  
qualities of femininity or masculinity.  While it is true that we 
are taught from earliest childhood that girls like dolls, and that 
boys don't cry... how true is this really?
 
A book I read recently (A gift from Daniel-- recommended!) expressed 
it as we are all born with certain parts, and as soon as we see those 
parts (or our parents do) we throw out half of who we are.
 
So in same-sex, or any-sex, or self relationships I would venture to  
say that the finding of god/goddess will lead one to what is needed 
to balance the masculine/feminine aspects and that physical anatomy  
is a very minor part of this.
 
In light, 
ori^ 
 
ori^   
oriATnospameskimo.com 
Kundalini Resources on the Web 
http://www.eskimo.com/~ori/kundalni.html 
Date: Sun, 06 Apr 1997 22:13:24 -0700 
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
CC: jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca 
Subject: Wishing Well 
Message-ID: <33488274.57A2ATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
 
WARNING * * * WARNING 
CONTAINS STRONG LANGUAGE THAT SOME MAY FIND STIMULATING
 
Celibacy is a perversion 
- and why not? 
The basis of  some aspects of Kundalini 
are attraction 
Communication and interaction are part of 
an energy flow 
many of us choose to follow this 
and whether our union is intellectual, spiritual 
physical or emotional we can elevate 
the profane or debase the exalted 
Some of us refuse to differentiate
 
All aspects of experience are reflective 
We see in our preferences truth and profundity 
what we disagree with is clearly less than this 
Therefore our response is indicative of us 
for which we are responsible
 
There is nothing wrong with who we are 
or how we experience 
each is entitled to their interpretation and efforts 
each  
is valued and worthy to 
share, if only in presence
 
. . . and the strong words? 
I lied 
and that is the Truth
 
Love and Blessings 
Lobster
 
  
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Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 00:36:55 -0700 
From: kathyb34ATnospamowl.csusm.edu 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: working from home 
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19970407003651.0070708cATnospammailhost2.csusm.edu> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
Dear list friends:
 
Lately, I've been keeping pretty busy with a few companies who send me 
handwritten names/addresses that I input into the computer and create 
mailing lists for these people to use.
 
The addresses are garnered from fairs and events that sponsor raffles and 
the like.  They send me large envelopes of handwritten sweepstakes entries 
and I create a mailing list for them.  However, I'm swamped with my other 
businesses and cannot keep up.
 
If anybody is interested in earning some extra cash by working on their 
puter's out of their home, please e-mail me privately.  I'll give you the 
address to which you can write for this type of work.  It's not full time, 
but it can help a bit with your finances and it's easy, however a bit 
tedious, work.
 
Hugs to all,
 
Kathy
 
Kathy B. 
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Warning: Dates in Calendar are closer than they appear 
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Date: Mon, 07 Apr 1997 08:17:40 -0700 
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
CC: jan.watsonATnospamsympatico.ca 
Subject: SPIRITUAL RENEWAL COURSE 
Message-ID: <33491014.315DATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
 
ARC 
ON LINE  
SPIRITUAL RENEWAL COURSE
 
What it is: 
An on going course devoted 
to an exploration of ones own possibilities 
Participants will have ample opportunity 
to disseminate their own understanding 
(maybe)
 
Who does it: 
You do 
Any attempts to engage in ego or  
authoritarian behaviour 
will be dealt with by non-existent higher forces
 
  
What will happen: 
Ha Ha Ha Ha <evil cackle> 
Your very soul will be sacrificed 
you will have to start thinking 
and making decisions for yourself
 
Before you begin: 
Please be aware that any inclinations to guru worship 
commit suicide 
or otherwise behave in a cultish manner 
will be punished by unconditional ignoring
 
Why should I do it: 
You should not 
we strongly advise people not to 
become involved in this course
 
How much does it cost: 
It is priceless
 
email to:  
arcATnospaminame.com
 
with the following 
1.  Why I do not want to do this 
2.  Why I am 
3.  What I know 
4.  What I would like to know 
 
We have an unlimited number of places 
but not for everyone
 
Most Kind Regards 
Lobster
 
 
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