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kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #124


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 124

Today's Topics:
  Re: Need some help
  Re: ATTENTION EVERYONE, elephants need to return to earth
  Re: GOD BE WITH US ALL! Sirian Cult Suicide.
  Re: Need some help, suggestions please
  Re: Moon trip/mailing list
  Re: ATTENTION EVERYONE, I have a humble idea?
  [Fwd: Re: ATTENTION EVERYONE, I have a humble idea?]
  <<<<<Celestine Colors
  Ref call already.
  Re: weary of negative messages
  Re: ATTENTION EVERYONE, I have a humble idea?
  Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #116
  Re: Animated greeting card arrived!
  Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #123
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:37:32 GMT
From: tyrone.waltonATnospamhhbbs.com (Tyrone Walton)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Need some help
Message-Id: <859372652ATnospamhhbbs.com>

Pamela, here are some books you might be interested in.
1)Call Adonoi by Albert L. Schutz, Quantal Publishing, Goleta,
California. I would really try to get my hands on this book! This is
where I first learned, what I later found out to be the practice of
Nyasa and mudra. I really recommend it!

2)Ecstatic Body Postures by Belinda Gore, Bear&Company Publishing, Santa
Fe. New Mexico

3)The Power of the Breath by Humata Verlag, Mazdaznan Elector
Corporation: The chapter on Egyptian Postures.

4)Kosher Yoga by Albert L. Schutz, Quantal Publishing, Goleta,
California: The former book by Mr. Schutz is more on the power of the
hands. But this one is also good and should be checked out IMHO.

5)Magnetic Therapy by Abbot George Burke, Saint George Press, 3500
Coltrane Road, Oklahoma City. Ok. 73121

Hope this has been of some help to you. You also might want to try using
the power of your hands to clean your energy centers. Just cup one of
your hands in front of one of the centers. Concentrate on your hand till
you feel the magnetic sensation. Then mentally chant the mantra
for that center. While still hold your hand in front of the center.

You can also do energy scans with your hands. Try this on plants or
trees. While you are doing this be sure to observe the plant carefully.
What I mean is to concentrate on the form of the plant. While laying
hands on it. If your hands move let them. Let me know what happens if
you try this. As I'd like to hear another person opinion on this.

Thanks.
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 04:54:20 -0800
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: ATTENTION EVERYONE, elephants need to return to earth
Message-ID: <33391C7B.3BBCATnospamdial.pipex.com>

Tom Aston wrote:

> The next person who says they're enlightened gets it from the great
> buddha in the sky - OK ? As the Tao says: "He who speaks does not know"
> and surely it's this "I" that's the root cause of so much mischief, and
> nowhere is it more evident than on this subject...and it certainly
> doesn't seem to be God speaking.

On the level that Mr Dan G is expressing it
we may say we too have undergone delusional experience
on this basis of
"He who speaks does not know"
there is no penalty from any sky buddhas
though you may take the role of chastiser
if you so wish . . .
:)
The very nature of the process is both seductive and transitional
and completely convincing - completely
If we have undergone feelings or experiences of
being special, ego less - when clearly displaying ego characteristics
this must be addressed - otherwise real mischief will ensue
for the person concerned and perhaps any others convinced of
outstanding status.
Can you only see the Tao flowing in the obvious
where is it not?
This is a K list and Dan's experience is an outpouring
of K - it is contaminated by his own sense of importance
based on feelings of inadequacey (which we all have).
Now if you are not able to engage in this process of transition
that is OK
but what is at stake is of great importance
- It is Dan's very sanity and progress
sorry if that is of no interest
to me it is everything . . .

Most Kind Regards
the unspeakable
earth bound Lobster
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 05:53:07 -0800
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: GOD BE WITH US ALL! Sirian Cult Suicide.
Message-ID: <33392A43.1EFFATnospamdial.pipex.com>

Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:

> I am so very tired the whole idea of waiting for aliens to rescue us, mass
> landing dates coming and passing uneventful....but not nearly so tired as
> these people were.

<Angelique is reffering to further Solar Temple suicides and murders
of children by lunatic believers - who know
they were doing the right thing for their children
by killing them . . . >

It is well known in psychology that people will believe
more strongly in the irrational and unsubstantiated "truths"
than that which is mundanely knowable.

Thank you for the posting
- stabbing babies through the heart
- sickening!
- how wary we must be
People who are vulnerable - and K is an opening and sometimes
wounding experience - must be very careful.
If anyone has anything bad to say about the group, guru, path
you are involved in - LISTEN.
This kind of tragic event happens because people
say "why are you always harping on the negative
- OK so we and our children may die
- but think of the great life we are going to have on Sirius
- now light the petrol" ( yes even here the Lobster :) )
No need to take offence
- we laugh at our deepest fears . . .

> Still, this story has snapped something for me. The futile desperation
> behind alien rescue fantasies. Don't go there.

Believe in aliens when you can invite them to tea.

> I think I'll stick with Gaia, so long Ashtar Command. Channelled doomsday
> fairy tales are causing too much despair. Ascension at any cost, no. I am
> incarnate here and here I will do my work, creating heaven on Earth. In the
> moment, here and now.

Blessings to you Angelique
Leave other peoples pain behind
and work for the creation of a world
devoid of senseless stupidity
thus do we serve best
Agreed.
Lobster
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 06:12:21 -0800
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, Pamela <Pamela_eATnospammsn.com>
Subject: Re: Need some help, suggestions please
Message-ID: <33392EC5.52EAATnospamdial.pipex.com>

Pamela wrote:

> I agree, anyway I have some questions if some of you out there could help I
> would much appreciate it. I have been told numerous times about the powerful
> energy emanating from my hands. I used to brush it off until I realized I
> cannot wear bracelets or a watch. Bracelets have exploded off of my wrists or
> they constantly come unclasped and fall off. Sometimes when I am really
> excited or energetic, if I happen to be holding something it may explode in my
> hand. Glass, plastic and other objects have just exploded in my hands.

Ah yes the old,
"it just exploded in my hands problem"
Calm down and it will not happen. Wear ankle bracelets
and a pocket watch :)

> I also known this energy in another way. When I write, be it a poem, a letter
> or other things I notice that it effects people very deeply. Specifically my
> poetry, paintings and letters. I would like to know how to channel this and
> use it to heal and cleanse with. I don't plan on using it on others just
> myself.

Yourself!
Selfish or what?
Please send the K list these cleansing materials
- thank you.

 
> A friend told me of an exercise to do. She said I should hold my hands
> together as if praying, only my fingers would not be touching. As soon as I
> feel the energy flowing, I am to move my hands farther apart, wait for the
> energy flow then move them again etc.. etc.. Is this a good exercise?

Yes excellent. You have a considerable gift - do not waste it.

> Another thing, what is this tingling thing happening at my crown chakra and
> what am I supposed to do about? Should I start meditating whenever I feel it
> or what? I feel like I should be doing something but I don't know what. Hope
> someone can help.

Meditation you should be doing anyway
- to allow your energy to flow through
your hands and body consider Tai Chi or Qi Ong

> .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:
>
> "True lovers don't meet somewhere
> They are in each other all along."
> ---------- RUMI
> .:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:._.:*~*:.

All along True Lovers have met
Nowhere
they are seen by each other

Lobster
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 07:00:13 -0800
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Moon trip/mailing list
Message-ID: <333939FD.2309ATnospamdial.pipex.com>

Hi Akasha,
 
> During your research, have you stumbled about anything on the Universal
> White Brotherhood? The information on them is to say the least, lacking.
> Some say there the unofficial org. for all lightworkers, hmm...

Yes.
They have a web site
unfortuantely it is only open to those
not wishing to access it.
They are in fact totally invisible to enquiry
but exist everywhere, responding to enquiries.

Most Kind Regards
Not belonging to any organisation
official or not
Lobster
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 07:16:29 -0800
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: Jon Locke <voltronATnospamvoy.net>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: ATTENTION EVERYONE, I have a humble idea?
Message-ID: <33393DCD.6AAEATnospamdial.pipex.com>

Jon Locke wrote:

<snip>

No bragging now Jon - I believe you. But then I freely
admit to being insane.

> Most importantly I found that there were a few who wanted to become
> enlightened like me. They sought my advice. But I saw that my bragging was
> turning them off. They left and would never study under me again. I wonder
> how many people I turned off who are still wandering around out there lost.

And there you have it Jon. The reason for humility.
You can not teach those who are not there.
Let me ask you - what are the drawbacks of too much humility?

> I wonder how much karma I suffer because of that. I think that is really
> the important question. What is our effect on other people? This is why
> true gurus do not mention themselves very often but concentrate on the
> student and speak in generalities, homelies and teach Love, Truth, Beauty
> and harmony. They may tell stories about their guru but seldom mention
> themselves.

What you say is all true. Do you understand what is meant by "The Black
Heart".
In your tradition it would manifest as Kali or Shiva. Can you say
something
about the need for this and how it ties in with what you have said.

Most Kind Regards
Lobster
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 09:00:21 -0800
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: [Fwd: Re: ATTENTION EVERYONE, I have a humble idea?]
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Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 08:53:43 -0800
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
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To: Dominic & Maureen Marando <chelseaATnospamsuperaje.com>
Subject: Re: ATTENTION EVERYONE, I have a humble idea?
References: <9703251918.AA15471ATnospamsuperaje.com>

Hi Mo,

> This is not to boast or to condemn Dan who really seems to be having trouble
> taking his experience in stride. This can be dangerous for his mind
> folks....if he doesn't take it in stride he could remain permanently
> disfunctional and may even "drop out" of daily routine and who knows where
> that may end. Many have been institutionalized and labelled schyzophrenic
> when they just were not dealing with spiritually transforming experiences
> very well.

As you are aware Mo, the delusional mind is incapable of recovery
until it admits the possibility of delusion.
The situation is very serious and despite what people
think are just sarcastic or comic attacks from myself
I consider Dan to be in grave danger.
The danger is grave because he can not see or admit it.
If he does not recognise the nature of his behaviour from an alternative
perspective he will continue to see himself as capable of guidance
when he needs our support and advice but his supposed elavated
status is not capable of absorbing advice
because he is in a stage (transitional) of bestowal.
Also there is absolutely no use in sending him prayers or other energy
- he is ODing on the stuff.
What he actually needs with as much sensitivity as possible is
to have as you say Mo;
"his butt kicked from here to eternity."

Given such a response he has several options
1. to run like the coward he is
2. stand and control his impulses

I know full well that he is completely unable to stay
here and answer the simple question of:

What is wrong with you?
How can we together fix it?

My apologies
but surgery cuts
Most Kind Regards
Lobster
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 03:59:28 -0800
From: Dan <stampmanATnospamix.netcom.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: <<<<<Celestine Colors
Message-ID: <33390FA0.16B4ATnospamix.netcom.com>

Hi k-ites,
 Could everyone possibly use something like Dan-G and Dan-RF to
differentiate who is being talked about? Most of the time I can guess,
but since I am weird in my own way some of the list comments seem
directed at me - would be nice to now who is being talked about or at
... thx =-).
 The Celestine Prophecy was a book I had never intended to read as I am
not particularly into pop/New Age/mystical/etc. type of stuff. However,
several on the list were quoting from it a while ago and so to be up on
what was being discussed, I borrowed a copy and read it; found it a thin
story, an obvious amalgam of several common philosophical/religio-mystic
themes, but resonated in several points with me.
 One subject didn't hit me until just tonight; the 'aura' of living
things. I have always maintained that 'seeing' auras was a subjective
phenomenon that was more an internal reassignment of mentally processed
data that was 'expressed' as variable light bodies than as an actual
tangible 'energy field'.
 However ... people have always condidered me as a half-bubble off level
when they asked me what my favorite color was and heard my answer. As
long as I can remember (my spontaneous awakening occurred only last
year) I have not been able to 'name' my favorite color ... only describe
it.
 My favorite 'color' is the color of grass at sunset. Actually, the
appearance - to me - of any living, plant at sunset and sunrise. I have
always 'seen' and felt a warm, glowing, golden, orange ...
I-don't-know-exactly-what sense of life, of earth, of a
loving-mother's-safe-protective-cradling-nuturing-embrace. I think you
may get the idea of how difficult it is to express the
color/feeling/emotion of which I am speaking.
 In the Prophecy, the author speaks of the aura of living things and how
'seeing' them is easier/enhanced at sunrise and sunset. I think I may
have always had a sense of this along with others; who perhaps were
smarter and just answered 'blue' to avoid sounding odd.
 An interesting corollary is that green is one of my least favorite
'real' colors. I own nothing that is green if I can help it; on St.
Paddy's Day I can find nothing appropriate to wear.
Love and LAUGHING LIGHT,
Dan-RF
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 04:58:28 -0800 (PST)
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Ref call already.
Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19960325060245.08df5d02ATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 11:18 25/03/97 -0500, you wrote:
>At 08:02 AM 3/25/97, you wrote:
>>But in case you need expert advice
>>and have been watching the Kundaline Komics
>>we do have a resident enlightened one
>>who in keeping with the on line tradition
>>charges nary a cent. Hope, though, that
>>your questions are advanced enough
>>for his time.
>>(Down scorpio, down !)
>
>Ed, I'm no expert at kundalini, never said I was. I never said I was an
>expert of any of this stuff. I never claimed to have all the answers, or be
>correct 100% of the time. I do not know everything, and I have been known
>to make mistakes. We are all learning. This should be a forum of cooperation.
<snip>
>Just so we're perfectly clear, and in case the list ref is watching or the
>admin, I take offense at your comments, and request you cease and desist.
>Thank you.
>
  I feel like I've been called out cause the kids are fighting.
  Sheesh.
  I have not ever suggested I would unsubscribe anyone for bad behavior,
quite the opposite. (Actually I am attempting to unsub several folks who
have requested it, unsucessfully...)
  I trust that usually people act up because they are working out stuff that
has come up for them, and leave it be. I make no threats, only offer
opinions when a situation seems to call for it. The list, left mostly alone
tends to find it's own balance. This is a gathering of many of the most
highly evolved souls on the planet, IMHO.
  Things seem to get a bit more fractous, when there are solstices, full
moons and such...we have had all of those lately. Crankiness skyrockets.

 You requested mediation, here it is.

 Dan, I think you are over reacting to this post a wee bit.
It is a gentle poke compared to some of the personal comments that have come
from your address lately. um...he is teasing you, but you were condescending
to the whole list...
  Advice from an ancient Witch: What goes around comes around and the higher
your vibe gets, the quicker and more powerful the payback. This is a
blessing and a horror.
  In a place as charged as K. list cyberspace, the vibe is high, anyway.
 If you do not wish to continue to provoke this continued debate over
your achievement then why did you not take it offline sometime ago?
  My Ref call on Peter made it clear that private responses could not be
posted. Any thread therefore goes offline as soon as someone responds privately.
Please be a bit more responsible for the reality you are creating. Needing
to have the last word on the list is an ego based decision.
  Your return to the list was somewhat messianic?
  You made some pretty intense and elitist claims....go back and read your
previous mail....Kundalites reacted to that. Well,...the messianic path
tends to finish with a crucifixion...it seems you have figured that out and
are now busy making retractions and clarifying.
 That is perfectly okay.
 Thank you for changing your sig. Taking out the word "few" would
have been sufficient change to remove it's elitist connotations, but I
appreciate the new message.

   This is K. List and it is a support group that exists partly because
flaming K. will sometimes cause one to do things that embarrass the family
and scare the cat. =-)
  You are experiencing a flaming K. episode, as some of the gentle folk on
this list have been trying to tell you for some time. Gently or not so gently.
  Everyone's path is different, therein lies the feeling of absolute
uniqueness you interpreted as meaning you were nearly alone in your
achievement, IMHO.
  Can you consider that perhaps some of these you consider your detractors
are only trying to save you from Icarus' plight? The crash that comes of
melted wings.
  Kite strings.
  We are here when you are flying into the sun, confident that anything is
possible and we will be here throwing lifebuoys when you are crashing again,
into victimhood and blaming all of us for dragging you down.
  Thus goes the dance of the Goddess K. as She purifies your being. Love and
fear round and round the Tao.
  You have danced it before, not so intense but this intensity will be
adjusted to and then another will present itself.
  You will find humor and warmth and love and acceptance, or at least a fair
bit of tolerance....but you will not always find agreement with your
pronouncements. So it goes. That's discussion for ya.

  So List Mystress Ref Call: Safe!... because I want this to be a safe space.
  ......With a sidenote to all Kundalites from List Mystress Manners that
it's not nice to tease someone who is going thru a flaming K. episode, tho
they may be a very tempting target, they are in an intense emotional state
and vulnerable. Let us focus on love in our communications.
( .... Enough with the Dan posts already O.K.?...)
  ...and another sidenote that if you need someone arrested go talk to the
Kundalini Police, I have heard he might be subsceptible to cyber fish cake....;)
 Blessings, List Mystress.

  PS: Does anyone have the unsubscribe URL for the k.list on the KRN site
and can you post it to me? The computer seems not to want to unsub anyone
lately....

Mystress Angelique Serpent,
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
 *******************
Time is a great teacher, but unfortunately it kills all its pupils.
     -- Hector Louis Berlioz
Sure, it's going to kill a lot of people, but they may be dying of something
else anyway. -- Othal Brand, member of a Texas pesticide review board
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 09:53:03 -0800
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: morganaATnospambest.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: weary of negative messages
Message-ID: <3339627E.6959ATnospamdial.pipex.com>

Morgana Wyze wrote:

> I have believed the object of this list is to seek support and help
> from peers. Criticizing the message, not the messenger. Dan is
> admittedly out of balance, and we can hold him in a place of acceptance
> until he finds his balance. Hopefully, Dan will honor his own process
> and perhaps more silently.

As someone constantly peering
and astonished at what is seen
I have found the interaction instructive
and humorous.
Incidently we are awaiting the message
- something about adverse weather conditions has been
prophesised - this is a common prophetic
syndrome - bad weather ahead.
Well we will just have to ride the storm.

> We're all healing ourselves from past negative influences. Why in
> the world would we invite more crap into our present?

As an act of compassion perhaps?
as a learning process?
to see our own delusions exemplified?
to learn and discuss concepts that create strong emotional responses
- you want more?
to explore negative aspects of K
to facilitate the movement from egomania to balance
but really because the negativity is our own . . .

Most Kind Regards
Lobster
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 10:09:08 -0800
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: Martin Koorts <MARTINATnospamKIDD.CO.ZA>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: ATTENTION EVERYONE, I have a humble idea?
Message-ID: <33396644.2472ATnospamdial.pipex.com>

Martin Koorts wrote:
 
> Dan is nowhere near enlightenment it seems to me.

Enlightened individuals can be mad,
unbalanced and rather ridiculous
- though of course that is not an essential requirement.
Most of them are quiet, humble gentle people
supporting others in whatever way they can.
Most of all they listen
and try to see fault with themself
rather than others.
As I have no desire to be considered enlightened
I can only say that my record is faultless on this.

 
> May be he found the key
> Twas not the Portals lock to fit

Well if euphoria was enlightenment
rather than responsibility and service
having a mortal fit would lock us into it

> The "Long Drop" for Dan I see
> Can Lobster unsubscribe me?

Well let us hope he falls to earth
and not Planet Zod
As to unsubscribing even those in S Africa
must realise
they can not escape from the K Line
by other peoples efforts only their own . . .

Most Kind Regards
Lobster (happily living on Planet Zod)
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 07:48:30 -0600
From: FIute <FIuteATnospamprodigy.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #116
Message-ID: <3339292E.2069ATnospamprodigy.net>

Tom Aston <yogi.tomATnospamtantrictom.demon.co.uk>
>
> Depending on feedback here and movements of the planets and sheer
> chance, am thinking of exploring possibilities of approaching
> therapeutic profession and yogis and meditators with it to add a little
> knowledge about kundalini and encourage tolerance, compassion,
> empowerment and understanding of those undergoing such a process so

how do you mean.. I am a Reiki Master TEacher and I combine yogi breath
with my healing and teaching..
flute
http://pages.prodigy.com/flute
Healing Across the Internet
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 12:25:31 -0800
From: S C Stoner <kcstonerATnospammbcomp.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Animated greeting card arrived!
Message-ID: <3339863B.2AF2ATnospammbcomp.com>

Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
>
> Way cool! Thanks! Blessings, A.
>
> At 02:51 26/03/97 -0600, you wrote:
> >Guess what!! S C Stoner has just sent you an animated greeting card
> >You can pick up your personal greeting by connecting to the following WWW
> Address:
> >
> >http://www.bluemountainarts.com/mailbox547/fellowli77373217.html
> >
> >hey list members...

dont know were my accompanying email went that was attached to the
card...but...

enough is enough...time to focus on the positives and forget the
negatives! consider this a start from me...to many good things have come
from this list that the positive love energies need to start going back
out...

hard to pick a card when you are limited to content...but have been
having these thoughts since i first started to follow the list...time to
share...

lovingly...to all...
steven
Date: Wed, 26 Mar 1997 09:00:14 -0800 (PST)
From: " Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Cc: Pamela_eATnospammsn.com
Subject: Re: kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #123
Message-Id: <199703261700.JAA21589ATnospamf6.hotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain

Pamela,

----------------You wrote----------------
>I have been told numerous times about the powerful energy emanating
>from my hands.
   <snip>
>I would like to know how to channel this and use it to heal and
>cleanse with. I don't plan on using it on others just myself.

So nice, and far too rare these days, to find someone on the list who has
special powers and shows an interest to do something besides brag about it.

I would suggest looking into Reiki. You sound like a natural. If you have the
chance and can afford it, go through the second degree at least, it includes
information on special treatments, including self-treatment. The training is
very good and expands what you can do with the energy. At either level the
energy training will give you techniques you can use on yourself and on others.
Ask around to find a good teacher. The quality of the teachers I've seen goes
from "why bother" to "better than I believed could be done, even after I had a
treatment or two first"

Please, think about expanding your audience. Helping others can be very
rewarding and aid in your own spiritual development. It doesn't have to take
much time, I used to devote an hour a week to treating a friend's wife, who was
dying of cancer. It seemed to ease her pain and I hope it lengthened her life.

With the above a couple of notes of warning:

1) My Vedic/yoga teacher said there is a danger of "back-flow" of bad energy
with any energy exchange involving two (or more) people. He told me to simply
be sure to coat my hands with oil, as in: "rub lotion on", just before giving a
Reiki treatment. He said it would not keep the healing energy from going out
but would prevent the back-flow from getting through. For the same reason,
some books on Reiki suggest "treating" a drain pipe or tree after a session to
transmit any back-flow to the ground where it will not harm you. Naturally, I
do both.

2) There are times, stages really, in K. process when one should not practice
Reiki, Chi Quong, Tai Chi, etc., including certain forms of Hatha Yoga. They
divert the energy from the K. process to these other forms, which are related
for the most part, to just the physical part of the person and not the
spiritual part. If you've been told by a teacher or a person who's learning you
trust you're at one of those stages (sometimes above the heart, but almost
certainly once you reach the upper part of the brow chakra), DON'T DO ANY OF
THEM! But also be aware that at other times it can actually aid the K. process
by increasing the energy flow, increasing the positive energy, cleansing and
other factors (helping others with Reiki or in other ways can help get you up
to the heart level).

If this seems complicated, sorry, nobody said it is supposed to be simple.

Good luck!

Namaste,
Joe

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