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1997/03/07 19:06
kundalini-l-d Digest V97 #87


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 97 : Issue 87

Today's Topics:
  Re: Sleep/Meditation
  Re: Studip siddhi..
  Re: copy of reply to libraKATnospam11(Kathy)
  Re: Another,m question for Morgana.
  Direction & Advice
  stop membership mailinggroup
  A Blessing . . .
  delete me from the mailgroup
  Re: Studip siddhi..
  Re: Studip siddhi..
  Re: copy of reply to libraKATnospam11(Kathy)
  RE: copy of reply to libraKATnospam11(Kathy)
  Re: Studip siddhi..
  One other question..please respond or CC:direct to Sheri.
  Re: copy of reply to libraKATnospam11(Kathy)
  Re: copy of reply to libraKATnospam11(Kathy)
  Not really stupid sidhi
  Not really stupid sidhi
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 1997 20:53:02 -0500 (EST)
From: Daforce2ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Sleep/Meditation
Message-ID: <970306204844_1317061451ATnospamemout09.mail.aol.com>

something you might be interrested in,to be lucid in a dream is haveing
control of your thoughts keeping aware of what your doing and were your at
in other words stopping all thoughts is to be awake.letting your thoghts
run wild is to be asleep.wether your in bed dreaming or at work dreaming
doesnt matter.awake is awake.
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 20:19:19 -0800
From: Paul Ellis <pauleATnospamsirius.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Studip siddhi..
Message-ID: <331F9747.1E60509BATnospamsirius.com>

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Kari Kärkkäinen wrote:
>
> Well.. does anyone have this kind of psychic
> "gift": when you stare at someone, her/his face
> changes and there can be many faces one after
> another. This strains eyes very much.

Kari -

This sort of thing has been talked about here on this list from time to
time. I see these faces too. I see them in my own face when I look in the
mirror and I've seen them while looking at other people. I'm not really
sure what to think of them. For instance, when seeing these while looking
at sombody else I don't know whether I'm seeing some other aspect of them
or some other aspect of me which I'm projecting onto their face (like a
movie projector showing a movie on a blank screen). Since I view the
universe as one being it doesn't ultimately really matter very much to me.
But it is sort of fun. It can be amusing to suddenly find yourself shaving
someone else's face. I'm serious, it happens occasionally!

Best to you,
Paul
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 15:03:49 -0500
From: Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net>
To: morganaATnospambest.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: copy of reply to libraKATnospam11(Kathy)
Message-ID: <331F2325.6D20ATnospambridge.net>

Hi,
What is NDE? My native language is Spanish and I never heard the term.
Thanks, wishing you Love,
Lissette
Date: Thu, 06 Mar 1997 15:08:08 -0500
From: Dolce Vita <lissetteATnospambridge.net>
To: Omega <omegaATnospampacific.net>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Another,m question for Morgana.
Message-ID: <331F2428.5F2FATnospambridge.net>

Hi,
You mentioned that you dont recommend melatonin, I have been taking if
for 2 years now and I feel great, I had very safe k awakening, I just
take 1 milligram istead of 3 as most people. Why do you consider it
unsafe?

thanks,
In the service of Love and light,
Lissette
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 10:09:32 UT
From: "Chester Smith" <CSStPaulATnospammsn.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Direction & Advice
Message-Id: <UPMAIL02.199703071006390911ATnospammsn.com>

 Hello,
My name is Chester; I will be 45 this month; I'm married with 3 children and I
live in Minnesota. I'll try to keep this short.
 My wife and I spoke to a psychic in June, just for fun, but my life seems to
have been changing ever since. The psychic suggested I investigate the
chakras. My wife is a great reader and I found a few books written by Shirley
MacLaine on the subject.
 What has changed:
 1. painting has become my obsession, something I've never done
 2. I actually feel something flow from my head down through me when I even
casually think of God
 3. I'm sleeping more than I have in years
 4. Something that I have recently noticed is that the tingle in my head I
would feel after meditating on the colors of the chakras has increased
to a deep, enveloping "something" that feels wonderful, from head to
toe.
 5. On occasion, with both eyes open, I am seeing separately with each eye
 6. When I mediate in a dimly lit room smoke seems to surround me;
      so much the first time I thought something was on fire.
 7. When I am meditating, seeing all kinds of neat things, if I think of God
everything stops
 8. While at the bookstore looking for books on the chakras I first
discovered kundalini from the best book I have found on the subject,
Kundalini and the Chakras, by Genevieve Lewis Paulson.
 Questions:
 1. Where am I going? What is happening? What should I do?
 2. I can't find time for extended meditation so I meditate briefly, and
often, throughout the day. Okay? Not okay?
 3. Meditation: eyes open or closed? On what should I focus?
 4. I am becoming increasingly aware of my crown chakra and my spine. When I
meditate on the colors of the chakras I think of orange, yellow, green,
blue, indigo, red and white, okay?
 5. Any thoughts on OBE -- how to?
 6. Any thoughts on remote viewing?
 Even though I have just begun, my life is changing. I'm not too sure where I
am going or how to procede. After having read much of the kundalini e-mail I
have come to respect your opinions. This is a lot, I know, but as a novice I
would appreciate any thoughts or guidance.
 Thanks for your time,
 Chester
  
  
     

Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 13:44:03 CET
From: "P.H.Smolders" <P.H.SmoldersATnospamstud.fsw.ruu.nl>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, P.H.SmoldersATnospamstud.fsw.ruu.nl
Subject: stop membership mailinggroup
Message-Id: <49448.P.H.SmoldersATnospamstud.fsw.ruu.nl>

Hereby I ask you to end my membership of the kundalini-mailgroup.

It has been nice to for me to get some first familiarity with two phenomena:
- kundalini
- the phenomenon called "mailinggroup"

Greetings,
      P.H.Smolders.
e-mail adres:
  P.H.SmoldersATnospamstud.fsw.ruu.nl
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 11:53:16 -0800
From: E Jason <vv60ATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: A Blessing . . .
Message-ID: <3320722C.4B26ATnospamdial.pipex.com>

This originally was for Larry Killen
but everybody deserves some too . . .

God Bless You
and your efforts
and all those who struggle
to put their past behind them
and Enter the Light

You enhance our Strength
and we offer you Ours

Most Kind Regards
Lobster
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 97 16:25:23 CET
From: "P.H.Smolders" <P.H.SmoldersATnospamstud.fsw.ruu.nl>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: delete me from the mailgroup
Message-Id: <59129.P.H.SmoldersATnospamstud.fsw.ruu.nl>

Please delete my e-mail-address from the Kundalini mailgroup.

Thank you.

   P.H.Smolders
e-mail adres:
  P.H.SmoldersATnospamstud.fsw.ruu.nl
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 10:19:05 -0500 (EST)
From: CGIAJWATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Studip siddhi..
Message-ID: <970307101905_-970456993ATnospamemout12.mail.aol.com>

A wild one that I get is that I can see what people were like around the ages
of three to five. Very fun to try around a group of people you consider your
superiors or generations older than yours.
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 17:46:34 +0200
From: Kari Kärkkäinen <karikarATnospamutu.fi>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Studip siddhi..
Message-Id: <19970307154637Z32257-9736+2356ATnospamutu.fi>
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At 20.19 6.3.1997 -0800, you wrote:
>Kari Kärkkäinen wrote:
>>when you stare at someone, her/his face changes

>This sort of thing has been talked about here on this list from time to
>time. I see these faces too. I see them in my own face when I look in the
>mirror and I've seen them while looking at other people. I'm not really
>sure what to think of them.
[..]

In my opinion, they are not necessarily previous incarnations
and thats why I call it "stupid siddhi". My sister see these
faces too; when she stares at me, she may see for example ten
european males from *same epoch*: they all cant be my previous
incarnations. Sometimes she sees only Indian/tibetan males.
I see her always as a negro or australian aborginal (she
is "in reality" blond skandinavian). Once I saw her as a ape..

But if they are not incarnations, what they are and
how this siddhi works?! Patanjali does not mention it,
which bothers me. :-)
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 09:49:17 -0800
From: Morgana Wyze <morganaATnospambest.com>
To: lissetteATnospambridge.net
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: copy of reply to libraKATnospam11(Kathy)
Message-ID: <3320551D.3400ATnospambest.com>

Dolce Vita wrote:
>
> Hi,
> What is NDE? My native language is Spanish and I never heard the term.
> Thanks, wishing you Love,
> Lissette

Lisette, NDE is just a shorthand for "near-death-experience",
someone who has been clinically dead and then revived or otherwise
brought back. With modern medical technology this is an increasing group
of people. It has always been part of a traditional shamanic transition.
The people who return often have a different ability or perception,
although this new ability often takes years to manifest fully.
Morgana
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:32:09 -0600
From: "Galván Jiménez Marco Antonio" <magj1ATnospamibm.net>
To: <morganaATnospambest.com>, <lissetteATnospambridge.net>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: RE: copy of reply to libraKATnospam11(Kathy)
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Hello, this Marco from Mexico.

I am writing a book about the different models to understand the Kundalini
unfolding which describe the types of risings, lists criteria for asessing
a rising and provides recomendation for treatment in case the unfolding is
abrupt.

Any reference is welcome.

Me gustaria conocer gente de habla hispana interesada en Kundalini.
Love.

Marco Antonio Galván J
Gutemberg 61-6. Polanco
Mexico DF

<html><head></head><BODY bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><p><font size=2 color="#0000FF" face="Arial Narrow">Hello, this Marco from Mexico.<br><br>I am writing a book about the different models to understand the Kundalini unfolding which describe the types of risings, lists criteria for asessing a rising and provides recomendation for treatment in case the unfolding is abrupt.<br><br>Any reference is welcome.<br><br></p>
<p><ul><li><font size=6>Me gustaria conocer gente de habla hispana interesada en Kundalini.<font size=2></ul></p>
<p>Love.<br><br>Marco Antonio Galván J<br>Gutemberg 61-6. Polanco<br>Mexico DF<br><br><br></p>
</font></font></font></body></html>Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 15:50:59 -0500 (EST)
From: INSPEC111ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Studip siddhi..
Message-ID: <970307155059_-2075428276ATnospamemout19.mail.aol.com>

In a message dated 97-03-06 12:45:38 EST, you write:

<< Well.. does anyone have this kind of psychic
 "gift": when you stare at someone, her/his face
 changes and there can be many faces one after
 another. This strains eyes very much.
  >>

 Have you seen it as you look in the mirror at yourself. I did
 this and was surprised when after staring for awhile my features
 changed and I looked elvish, I was told that sometimes our
 past lives can surface by doing this.

 Alantra
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 16:09:24 -0800 (PST)
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <mistressATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: One other question..please respond or CC:direct to Sheri.
Message-Id: <1.5.4.16.19960306172207.0a47922cATnospamdomin8rex.com>

>Return-Path: <kundalini-l-requestATnospamexecpc.com>
>Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:28:30 -0600
>X-Envelope-From: roebersATnospamix.netcom.com Fri Mar 7 13:28:30 1997
>Old-Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 13:27:52 -0600 (CST)
>X-Sender: RoebersATnospampopd.ix.netcom.com
>To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
>From: Sheri Davis <roebersATnospamix.netcom.com>
>Subject: One other question
>X-Diagnostic: Not on the accept list
>X-Envelope-To: kundalini-l
>
>I'm sure there will be more than just one more ;}}
>
>so, are there places in the Bay Area Calfiornia where I could talk to some
>people about this particular Instructor or ways to find out more........
>
>Having a warped sense of humor, here goes "Does it matter that I broke off
>the end of my tailbone a few years back in a fall?"
>
>With Love and Laughter
>
>Sheri
>~~~~
>
  ListMystress Note: Sheri Davis <roebersATnospamix.netcom.com> is not on the List,
so please respond or CC: her directly with your response....that's a cut and
paste, not a click on the return key, or it comes back to me instead. Thanx.
KLM.

Mystress Angelique Serpent,
  Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
 *******************
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Trying to credit who I am channelling/manifesting at any given moment would
make my writing look like the authors list of the infinite number of monkeys
who wrote Hamlet.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
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Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 19:31:48 -0500
From: Ronald Westermann <ronwestATnospambellatlantic.net>
To: Klist <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: copy of reply to libraKATnospam11(Kathy)
Message-ID: <3320B373.F2CATnospambellatlantic.net>

Morgana Wyze wrote:
>
> Dolce Vita wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> > What is NDE? My native language is Spanish and I never heard the term.
> > Thanks, wishing you Love,
> > Lissette
>
> Lisette, NDE is just a shorthand for "near-death-experience",
> someone who has been clinically dead and then revived or otherwise
> brought back. With modern medical technology this is an increasing group
> of people. It has always been part of a traditional shamanic transition.
> The people who return often have a different ability or perception,
> although this new ability often takes years to manifest fully.
> Morgana

Hi there:

I'm presently experiencing a NLE.

Light empowers,
Ronald
Date: Fri, 07 Mar 1997 16:58:19 -0800
From: Peter Norton <pnortonATnospamatwc.teradyne.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: copy of reply to libraKATnospam11(Kathy)
Message-ID: <3320B9AB.664DATnospamatwc.teradyne.com>

> > What is NDE? My native language is Spanish and I never heard the term.

just as an aside,
there is a good movie with Ellen Burstyn (who is a pretty
spiritual person, I hear, into Sufism) called 'Resurrection',
available at video rental stores.

it's about a woman who experiences NDE, then acquires healing power.
Some very moving scenes. Very well done. Very prescient.
Would go well with the movie 'Fearless' with Jeff Bridges.

There was a recent FoxTV movie about Dannion Brinkley's NDE
story that I happened to catch, forget the name, pretty good.

Look for any movie with Ellen Burstyn, it's sure to have some
Power in it. Even the 'Exorcist', one of my all-time favorites,
I always cheer for the priests in the bedroom scene.

cheers
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 20:34:59 +0000
From: Charles Wildbank <wildbankATnospampeconic.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Not really stupid sidhi
Message-Id: <01345974003964ATnospampeconic.net>

Dear Friends,

About seeing those layers of faces on someone's contenance, I
have experienced that many times. You perhaps could take into
account the collective consciousness of the human race and God's
grand design of the proportions of the human body through eternity.
Man invented Microsoft Windows and it is a program so standard.
Cetainly, the communication of souls face to face follows this principle.
Seeing a face in front of you always has become a time worn
archetype that is etched from billions of repetitions one could never
erase or delete! You as part of the grand design and without
separation are bound to have the ability top toggle the infinite
number of faces before you. Any emotion can serve as a pointer
(like your PC mouse) and the corresponding face from any space
time continuum will manifest. The search most people are probably
accustomed to are in the random setting and you get these faces in the
sequence provided or if you are unified or more aware, you could
make the selection with your concentrative powers and access anyone
person/face you desire. Because the selection is endless, it would
do you good productive-wise, to KNOW what you are seeking.
We are in the Age where it is NOT A STUPID QUESTION to
be inqusiitve. If our forefathers had been more ready to question these
things as we are doing this very instant, we'd have come a long way
and reach the stars and converse with other planets by now!
God sends us prophests so often that the earth is QUICKENED and
a new age is born with its wonderful inventions and advancements.
THIS IS THE AGE OF AWARENESS THAT WE HAVE A
KUNDALINI and the next age we all will realise hat all our kundalinis
are CONNECTED.
I am just a lurker and awaiting more kundalini for myself.
Charles
Date: Fri, 7 Mar 1997 21:05:19 +0000
From: Charles Wildbank <wildbankATnospampeconic.net>
To: :ATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Not really stupid sidhi
Message-Id: <02051985704013ATnospampeconic.net>

Dear Friends,

About seeing those layers of faces on someone's contenance, I
have experienced that many times. You perhaps could take into
account the collective consciousness of the human race and God's
grand design of the proportions of the human body through eternity.
Man invented Microsoft Windows and it is a program so standard.
Cetainly, the communication of souls face to face follows this principle.
Seeing a face in front of you always has become a time worn
archetype that is etched from billions of repetitions one could never
erase or delete! You as part of the grand design and without
separation are bound to have the ability top toggle the infinite
number of faces before you. Any emotion can serve as a pointer
(like your PC mouse) and the corresponding face from any space
time continuum will manifest. The search most people are probably
accustomed to are in the random setting and you get these faces in the
sequence provided or if you are unified or more aware, you could
make the selection with your concentrative powers and access anyone
person/face you desire. Because the selection is endless, it would
do you good productive-wise, to KNOW what you are seeking.
We are in the Age where it is NOT A STUPID QUESTION to
be inqusiitve. If our forefathers had been more ready to question these
things as we are doing this very instant, we'd have come a long way
and reach the stars and converse with other planets by now!
God sends us prophests so often that the earth is QUICKENED and
a new age is born with its wonderful inventions and advancements.
THIS IS THE AGE OF AWARENESS THAT WE HAVE A
KUNDALINI and the next age we all will realise hat all our kundalinis
are CONNECTED.
I am just a lurker and awaiting more kundalini for myself.
Charles

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