kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 96 : Issue 258
1 Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996
From: Tim Duna
Subject: Re: going unconcious
At 08:43 PM 11/28/96 -0500, you wrote:
>I think I'm going uncoucious in my meditations.
->
>This has been happening expecially in my morning meditations, lying in corpse
>pose and chanting the Hrim mantra (thanks for all the help on that!). What
>kinda scares me is that I'll suddely feel woo-sy and then "come-to" realizing
>I'll stoped chanting for some time and haven't really been there. I'm not
>sure if I'm hitting the Zen no mind, or going into work on some other plane
>of conciousness, or just trying to stop the mantra before I over do it. I've
>been feeling the urge to sleep extra lately, expecially in the afternoon. I
>think these have to do less with needing rest and perhaps needing to dream
>more, or go into different levels. Often I end up having dreams where I fall
>asleep and go into another dream (dreams within dreams). When meditating I
>remeber no dreams, just like a blank, or the impression I was elsewhere. My
>senses seemed hyped up today, my energy is returning, and I sense that I'm
>going to get a big boost from the changing seasons. I've also been
>remebering truths about reality and energy trapped in nature, time, memory,
>ect. Like my subconcious is really dealing with alot of heavy things all at
>once. Does anyone relate to this slipping in and out while meditating?
>
>Happy thanksgiving
>Aaron
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Actually this has happened to me also on the few occasions I have
practiced the 'no-mind' of the buddhists while laying down. I have heard
that along with outer bodies and minds, we have inner ones as well. That
when we meditate and lose consciousness, all we really do is skip over into
that next mind that we have no conscious connection to yet. You're not
missing anything, the memory is there, it's just hidden because not
everything is connected. I have heard it also suggested to use the lotus
posture for the 'no-mind' stuff, as one is less likely to fall asleep.
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Tim
2 Date: Thu, 28 Nov 1996
From: ori^
Subject: Purifying--Detox bath [was: Another K Question]
Eileen wrote to TG:
>Hi TG -
>Looks like your meditation is "working" fine. The itchy sensations are
>caused by impurities coming out, specifically, past resistance to pain
>and discomfort.
I would second this idea. Intuitively it seems that your body
is attempting to clear and purify itself. Another means of
assisting it might be through diet, increasing the amount of
water you drink each day. And I found that bottled spring or
well water worked even better. Also I was drawn to adding lemon
quite often.
Additionally trying a detox bath and using a natural bristle brush
to help cleanse the skin can be of help. To hot bath water add:
1/2 c. sea salt
1/2 c. baking soda
1/2 c. epsom salts
Relax in the bath for about 20 minutes, then rinse off in a shower.
This really opens the pores. I especially try to do this after
a massage/bodywork session, not only to wash off the oils used,
but to open the pores to assist the toxins to flow out from within.
It is interesting how this kundalini process seems to require an
inner purification. I have felt guided from one technique to
another, always being led to what it seems I need at just that time.
Enjoy,
ori^
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3 Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996
From: Richie Suraci
Subject: female tantric kundalini devotees
Are there any female tantric kundalini devotees on this list looking for
private email and real life consort tantric puja experiences with the
divine pleasures of tantric sexual union?
If so feel free to email me at rs7.fapATNOSPAMmhv.net
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Tantragi (Richie)
4 Date: Fri, 29 Nov 96
From: Eran Stein
Subject: RRrrrrrrE: going unconscious
> I think I'm going uncoucious in my meditations.
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Hell-O, Aaron (and everyone).
A very simple, yet very neat little something I picked up a little while
back: While meditating (specifically corpse position) -- try holding your
fore arm uP.
It's as simple as it sounds: bend it from the elbow, straight up. The hand
can be loose, don't worry about it. It doesn't bother the meditation, as it
stays balanced without requiring any conscious thought. However (and this is
- where the neat part starts) - whenever you're about to lose it (slipping into
unconsciousness/sleep), your hand will drop. And you will notice. And then it
would be your conscious decision: Either your let it drop and go to sleep, or
you pick it back up and try to continue meditating.
And, of course, once you have control over that, you can ditch the technique.
Good luck, and happy givings :)
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Be mellow,
Eran
5 Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996
From: LwMema3ATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: Energy messages how I send L&L
Everyone,
I do not know if this is the way others send energy with messages, but just
writing the words Light and Love greats a great ball of light filled with
endless love and it physically wraps the message (visually I see it doing
this as I take the time to type those few words) and it seals it like
wrapping paper around a gift box... so that when the message is read it opens
up and extends to the reader... does that make sense? That is what works for
me, and these days I sign just about everything Light and Love (unless it is
for work then I have to go with the boring Sincerely...) Just thought you
all might be interested to know how it works for one list member.
So here is lots and lots of Light and Love to you all... enjoy!,
Lori
6 Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996
From: hyperATNOSPAMhmt.com (HyperMedia Technologies)
Subject: Re: various-long message
> my tongue, from root to center, has been
>pushing up against the back of my throat and the roof of my mouth. It
>is a constant and very uncomfortable pressure exerted even while
>sleeping (at least whenever I wake up at night the pressure is there).
>I've tried massage, energy work, tuning forks and crystal bowls to no
>avail. K. has loosened it several exciting times, but it closed up
>again. A shaman (in group setting) has also loosened it, with
>wonderful, but short-lived results. I'm at a momentary standstill and
>could really use some help.
This is the Khechari mudra. It is a rather esoteric mudra.
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As I understand it, the tongue is to be curled backwards up against the
palate and the tip pushed into the upper throat region.
A pool of nectar resides there. When a drop of is released it goes down the
throat, has a minty cooling sensation, and covers the throat, esphagus and
then down into the gastric yogic fire.
As I understand it this nectar is eventually to be moved into the Ajna
chakra and merged into the Sushumna when the Kundalini resides in that
Chakra.
I don't practice this mudra, but I have experienced the nectar many times
during meditation.
Some Yogis pull on their tongues to enlongate them so that they can do this
mudra better.
You might try pushing the tip of your tongue into the area that the center
and root is trying to push into and see if that has any effect.
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Do it during meditation.
Martin
7 Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996
From: "Your friend at:"
Subject: Farewell
Hi!
I would like to introduce myself. I was born 12/17/57 in New
Orleans, Louisiana and still live near New Orleans. I am developing a
community service organization. You can check our website at
(http://www.gnofn.org/~oxoasis). Thank you for your patience and if I can
be of any assistance, please let me know.
- Without adequate funding I cannot afford to maintain certain
topics on my account.
Sincerely,
Christopher
Linkname: The Yamas
URL: http://www.eu.spiritweb.org/Spirit/Yoga/yamas.html
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Linkname: Astanga Yoga
Filename:
http://www.eu.spiritweb.org/Spirit/Yoga/Overview.html#Astanga
Linkname: Bhagavad-gita As It Is -- Table of Contents
URL: http://www.webcom.com/~btg/gita/toc.html
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"The Vedas deal mainly with the subject of
the three modes of material nature.
... Become transcendental to these three modes.
Be free from all dualities and
from all anxieties for gain and safety,
- and be established in the self."
(Bhagavad-gita as it is 2.45)
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8 Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996
From: LwMema3ATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: online energy exchange reply to Angelique
My first instinct about posting a text, web page on sacred sexuality needs to
be one that will make people understand what it is about if they are browsing
and come across it. The text needs to bee made clear somehow that the web
page is not just about sex and that we have a much deeper more important
purpose.. any one catching my drift here???? I do not know exactly how to
express this yet, but I will be thinking about it and if anything specific
comes to mind i will let you all know, if anyone else wants to jump in here
with ideas please let me- (and the list members)
know. Okay I can't resist.... "Just Do It"... yes I know, I know, but it is
funny! :D
Light and Love,
Lori
9 Date: Fri, 29 Nov 1996
From: LwMema3ATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: online energy exchange reply to Steven
In a message dated 96-11-25 11:36:28 EST, you write:
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Any time I am online, I will set up an IRC channel called
#kundalini for all of you to join in a live discussion if you please.
The main purpose in being there would hopefully be to try exchanging
energy. I have had quite a bit of success with this sort of thing and
would like to experiment some. Anybody else willing? >>
Yes Steven I am willing- but I do not know how to get to an IRC channel so
where do I begin to look if I am online and checking to see if you are there?
I would love to discuss Kundalini more interactive and test the energy on
line...
Please let me know
Light and Love,
Lori
10 Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996
From: "B."
Subject: Re: online energy exchange reply to Angelique
What about creating a newsgroup?
On Fri, 29 Nov 1996 LwMema3ATNOSPAMaol.com wrote:
> My first instinct about posting a text, web page on sacred sexuality needs to
> be one that will make people understand what it is about if they are browsing
> and come across it. The text needs to bee made clear somehow that the web
> page is not just about sex and that we have a much deeper more important
> purpose.. any one catching my drift here???? I do not know exactly how to
> express this yet, but I will be thinking about it and if anything specific
> comes to mind i will let you all know, if anyone else wants to jump in here
> with ideas please let me- (and the list members)
> know. Okay I can't resist.... "Just Do It"... yes I know, I know, but it is
> funny! :D
> Light and Love,
> Lori
>
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11 Date: Sat, 30 Nov 1996
From: TeeegeeeATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: Another K Question
In a message dated 96-11-28 20:45:38 EST, you write:
>>
If your itching is really from the K, then your body is mostly preparing
itself for increased circulation and sense of touch and/or psychic touch,
and
maybe just a generalized increase in overall energy. I foresee your problem
as this, and believe great things will be coming to you, but I'm no
specialist in over e-mail psychic readings. Hope everything turns out for
the best. Let me know what you find out.
>>
Aaron...
Thanks for your response - I love this particular answer, whether it's the
right one or not! Will let you know what's happening.... The itching is
better today, but still there. Someone (from the K forum) said, when this
occurred to them, they took a heavy duty antihistimine and that took care of
it. Tried that last nite - it put me right to sleep...... Have you read
about this somewhere or experienced this (the K itching would be preparing
itself for increased circulation, etc........)?? I realize from what you
said that you get the 'itchies' too, but did you see a difference afterwards
within your own self?
Anyway, sounds good to me....
xxxtg