kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 251 

Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 
From: David Scott Newmark 
Subject: Re: headaches

Perhaps you could try biofeedback.  Direct the blood flow from 
your head to your palms.
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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 
From: stampmanATNOSPAMix.netcom.com (Daniel Rusch-Fischer )
Subject: Vibro-matic Bed

Many of us (k)ites [those who have gone through a spontaneous kundalini 
awakening] go through peaks and valleys of the ongoing experience. 
Having been to the 'mountain top' so-to-speak makes the valley days 
seem like vanilla ice-milk compared to the peaks. The k never stops 
completely, but its course is often (especially during the initial 
period - which has lasted by one account for over 4 YEARS) internally 
directed in its ebb and flow. The peaks are accompanied by many reports 
(mine most definitely) with a vibration/sound/tremor/etc. that is 
variously described as humming/buzzing/music/etc. My particular humming 
is a trembolo that sounds almost exactly like the sound that the Gyuto 
monks achieve in their multi-octave chanting. It is not overwhelming 
and is constant - doesn't vary in volume or pitch.

The time that I am most aware of this is when I am trying to get to 
sleep and it is persistant. We have a king-size water bed and the water 
picks up the tremor from my body and like a pebble dropped in a pool, 
the vibrations pass from me into the water out to the edges of the bed 
and then are reflected back to me so that it makes me doubly aware of 
them. I had made the assumption that when I got to sleep that it shut 
down and stopped. I also assumed that I was the only one aware of it. I 
ALSO ASSUMED that if it wasn't going when I got to sleep that it never 
happened or started during sleep.

HAH!! The night before last was particulary vibratory for me and I had 
a devil of a time getting to sleep because of the strength of the 
surging kundalini which made me even more aware of the reflected 
vibrations through the water on which I was lying. I had gone to bed 
early and Karen came in after I had gone to sleep. Yesterday, I 
mentioned to Karen about how the bed magnifies my perception of the 
'humming'. She had never mentioned it, but told me that she was always 
aware of when I was 'humming' because it shook the whole bed and her as 
well. She also said that she will wake up at night when it starts in me 
in my sleep and that if it is going when I go to sleep, it usually 
continues after I have dozed off.

I asked her if it bothered her or kept her awake and why she hadn't 
made mention of it. She said it was there from the very beginning and 
she just thought it was a natural occurance and part of the experience 
and therefore of no consequence. She said she had gotten used to it, 
had gotten to like it, and though aware when it started in the middle 
of the night, went promptly back to sleep. Said it was like a massage, 
like having her own vibromatic bed that you didn't have to put quarters 
in to keep going. There you have it. Kundalini - practical, economical, 
and fun.-)
Love and LAUGHING LIGHT, Dan-RF
(anyone else have others perceiving their surging k?)



Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 
From: "L.D. McClanahan" 
Subject: Headache Suggestions

Hi,
	Here are some suggestions for those suffering from headaches.  
These have been found useful by those doing assessment and psychotherapy 
research on the subject.  First, those with headaches often have cold 
hands; so, either warm the hands in warm water or go into an altered 
state of consciousness (ASC) and imagine blood increasing in the hands, 
imagine how the vessles are getting larger.  Biofeedback training can 
train one to raise hand temperature, but those familiar with moving 
energy around and experiencing ASCs should have no difficulty.  Second, 
those with headaches tend to tighten the frontalis muscles across the 
forehead and are not aware of that tension state.  Therefore, close the 
eyes and relax the tension across the forehead.  Third, those with 
headaches often are angry at something and are trying to maintain 
control over the thoughts, feelings, and/or events, trying to be "nice." 
Try processing what is troubling you with someone who can cope listening 
to your feelings or anger; sometimes depression or self negating 
thoughts, the flip side of anger, need processing.  Anger has 
external focus; depression is inward focused anger via mood change.  
Fourth, teeth fillings that leak or root canals that create pockets of 
gangrene at the base of the tooth root can cause problems, even TMJ can 
cause headaches.  Fifth, if the axial verterbra at the top of the spine 
is subluxated, headaches can result; a good DC or DO can realign.  Of 
course, energy work plays into all these suggestions, and those with K 
rising or integrating may require nutrients, diet changes, or energy 
healing by someone who can see and clear the auras and chakras.  If 
anyone would like to present a particular issue use my email address so 
as not to clutter up the K chat site for a more personal issue.  L.D.

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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 
From: slcofksATNOSPAMfeist.com (Philip St. Romain)
Subject: Kundalini, chi, spiritual formation

I suppose the post below by Flute expresses a common sentiment: that the
difference between all the world religions is "merely semantical," and that
words are just symbols of thought.  Ok, Flute, but thoughts are also
FORMATIVE, and form is the vehicle through which energy is received and
expressed.  Change your thinking patterns and your experience of the energy
changes as well.  So, too, with the great religious traditions: they all
work to mold the human form unto a certain receptivity.  This receptivity
is what I call Faith.  How we hold ourselves in openness to the divine
energy (which is intelligent, intentional--Personal) determines, in large
part, the kind of experience we have.

So. . . words are not just meaningless symbols, and the differences among
the world religions are not merely semantical.  Different semantics are
used because different experiences and expressions of the divine are
encountered there.  Each is a broad, formative pathway; some of the new age
and occult experiences we've been reading about are also formative
pathways.  The question before us becomes, then, one of carefully
considering the kind of formation we want to submit ourselves to. We form
ourselves by our attitudes, disciplines, and values, but we do this in
relationship with a formative tradition, guru, master, guide (if we do not,
then we run the danger of the Ego running the formational show, or of
unworthy spirits stepping into our energy field to run things).

Am going to visit my folks in Louisiana for a few days--got to renew my
Cajun roots from time to time (best food and best people in the world,
folks IMHO).  I'll be unsubscribing tomorrow so I don't have 2,000 posts
waiting when I come back.  A friend will forward posts relative to this
thread (which I, too, have enjoyed, Paco).

Happy Thanksgiving, all!

Love and Peace.  Phil

>Kung Fu (chinese) Aikadio (japanese) and many martial arts are the
>same.. Just altered enough to
>be custom'd and tailor'd to the individual society.  SO with all
>religions.. Religion is the map to the same goal "An Awareness fo the
>Divine Order". Try reading Joseph Campbell's stories on myths and
>Legends.. He goes deeply into Religion and connects it thru all
>cultures..
>And so likewize with Kundaline awakening.. Its all the same.. Just
>different words.. and words are just symbols of thought.  Who can
>truely explain what the pictures in their mind are, especially the
>forms of love, Hate, Fear, Depression..  If you had to use different
>symbols to explain it.. It would still be the same thought.
>flute
>
>
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>




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Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 
From: JOHN ROYER 
Subject: Astral Projection

JOHN ROYER wrote:
> 
> > In 1977 I had my first OBE/Astral
> > Projection by accident from
> > listening to the ringing in my
> > ears..(one of many OBE's to follow)
> >
> > After the experience I felt a surge
> > of vibrations flow up and down my
> > spine...Was this K??



Date: Sat, 23 Nov 1996 
From: SYL228ATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: Music

One of the reasons that music can be so potent is that the 5th body of the
aura is composed of sound and forms a template for the lower bodies.  If I
hear a discordant noise, especially an unexpected one , then I find myself
 feeling as if my human form is totally disintegrating.  This is particularly
bad when I am lying down, which makes it impossible to sleep in the same room
as a person that snores for example.

As a musician I am very interested in music as a therapeutic tool.  The
problem is that different music affects different areas.  In general the
lower notes affect the lower more earthbound chakras, and higher notes the
higher chakras.  Rythmn is also important, and some can be devastating to the
body.  Certain kinds of rock can weaken the muscle tone for instance.  But
the reaction does depend on the person and where they are in the energy
process.

Bach appeals to some of the more primitive elements in our body, and so can
be very healing at times.  However it must be music that is played at 60
beats a minute. Experiments have been done in Eastern Europe in which it has
been found that classical music of this beat actually enhances learning.
 Brennan says that the aura pulses once every 4 seconds, and in 4/4 time, 60
beats a minute would emulate this perhaps. The Pachabel Canon in D  is in
this rythmn and very soothing.

Chopin appeals to the more complex emotions such as beauty etc, so generally
helps my heart area. Kitaro 's Light of Spirit  has a rythmn like a heart
beat that takes it down to 60 beats and then  speeds up to a more normal 70
at the end of the CD.  This music always helps me. Steve Halpern 's Spectrum
Suite was composed with the aura in mind.  Kirlian photography showed the
aura becoming pink in those listening to it.  It also uses a lot of different
keys,which is important as each chakra reponds to a different note.
 Consequently this music tunes the whole body.

All New Age music. is not necessarily good for the body.  My rule is to
listen to it in the store before I buy.  Some are very destructive.  In
general those with more natural sounds are best---such as the ocean.  Flutes,
harps and pianos are good.  Organ music if it  has long chords, but that is a
maybe.

In terms of rythmns , many can be very destructive.  African music is good,
and so is some American Indian music but not always.   Listen and decide for
yourself is a good rule.

Most chants bother me except for Gregorian chants which because of the type
of harmony they use seems to be very calming.  Octaves and perfect fifths
build the body, which may be why they help.

The key the music is in also is important, they each produce a different
effect on the body, and it depends what you need at the time,  which key is
best.  So a piece may suit one day and not the next.

Re: the comment on Angel music.  Ever since "K" I have a "sound " in my head
that is like the resonating of a crystal.  The tone changes depending on the
situation, becoming higher or lower pitched.  It seems as if this "sound"
tunes my body according to it's individual needs.  In other words I produce
my own"music" as needed.  I listen to music less and less, and recently gave
up my music profession, altogether.  It seems to me that Gloria is right when
she says silence is sometimes best.  In my case the music interferes with the
sound I emit. So it became increasingly difficult to be involved in music to
the extent I was. Also the crown chakra is one of silence and being,  and
 moves beyond sound to other types of energy manifestations.  So music too is
only a step on the way to beingness.

Don Campbell has written many books on music an it's effect, and his books
are available through Quest for those who are interested.

Love Jule