kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 241 

Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 
From: Juliet 
Subject: High Heels!

In yoga (particularly in tadasana) we are always reminded to stand with
weight balanced equally between left and right, front and back, between
the "four points" of the feet--that is the two heels and the balls of
the feet--to spread the feet and fan the toes out maximally, to maximize
contact from the earth. Give it a try, you will probably find that your
natural stance is weighted back toward the heels, and off to one side. 
Standing in balance takes a lot of practice! But, when mastered, seems
to help access a lot of energy (the more grounded you are, the more
energy you handle, or so it seems)

They say the feet are the base, everything is built up from there--and
if that primary ground level of structure is faulty, then everything
that follows will suffer as well. No hatha posture (even the asymetrical
ones) works if the feet are not balanced and grounded properly.

Obviously this kind of standing is IMPOSSIBLE in high heels, especially
the three inch ones... which probably explains why so few yogis have
traditionally worn pumps...

However, they are fun for other things, especially the three inch
ones...

-
J.



Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 
From: FlarityjATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Help--Tibetan Lamas from Drepung

On the recommendation of another K-list member, I went to hear these Lamas in
Tacoma on Thursday.  I got one of the last tickets near the front.   I spent
most of the chant with my eyes closed and spine erect.  The lady on my left
went to sleep and snored as I have never heard in a concert before.  The
young student on my right left during the show.

The chanting is much like the wailing of the banshees in the movies.  Each
Lama can chant is three octaves at one time.  There is nothing else like it.

By the end of the 110 minute set,  I felt like I had an orange size hot ball
in the center of my head.  Friday morning, the center of my head was sore
like overworked muscles.  My Saturday meditation went very poorly.  My
concentration was fine, but I was unable to open up and connect.  I miss this
very much.  I do not believe this is a blockage--but I don't know what else
to call it.

My mental images seem very vivid and extraordinarily sharp with incredible 3D
like qualities.  But my head is still sore and I cannot listen to any music
with bass.  My ears are still ringing even though there was no amplification
that I could see.

I could sure use some suggestions to get back on track (unless this is my new
track).  I am very surprised by this occurance and would appreciate personal
replies.  I am not sure how applicable my situation would be to other list
members and I do not want to further burden this already busy list.

Love,

Joe


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Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 
From: veda002 
Subject: Re: Television and Kundalini

Philip St. Romain wrote:
> 
> OK.  Here's getting off the gnosticism/Genesis, etc. discussion into a real
> life problem.  Ever since k awakened, I've had a problem with tv--not the
> content, although that's sometimes bad enough, but with the television
> waves.  If I watch for 15 minutes or more, I begin to feel nauseated, and
> eventually I have to go outside and retch out the bad prana.  Same thing
> happens with computer screens, though not quite so severe.  If I watch tv
> with a cushioned chair or something in front of me, it's not as bad.  But
> it's still a problem!
> 
> Does anyone else have this most annoying problem?  What can be done about
> it?  I can live without tv, but it would be nice to watch a litlle
> something every now and then.
> 
> Retching my way to heaven!
> 
> Phil

I also get very unbalanced by the TV.  I don't watch it anymore.  But
the Computer is something I choose to continue working with.  Someone
gave me this tip and it seems to work.  Get yourself a large bit of
Hematite and put it in your left pocket.  It apparently absorbed and
balanced ElectroMagnetic waves coming to your body.  See if this works
and give me a reply!
-
Veda



Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 
From: lodpressATNOSPAMinetworld.com (Larry Newman)
Subject: Re: emergency

Anne Wright wrote:
> 
> I tell you what. It is a damn good thing that we have each other, because
> there is no way I would survive without you guys right now. My 13 year old
> son was physically abused by the assistant principal today. We filed the
> police report and the whole bit. Guess what? I taught at that school for
> ten years,,,, and I knew this would happen. He has several prior
> convictions..........But i NEVER thought it would be me. I feel like christ
> on the cross. How much must we suffer. i am devestated. Where are my
> teacher friends? Why would they be honoring his gag order? The shit. This
> is an emergency. Please write back. I need help now.Anne
-
Anne,
	You know what you have to do so that you don't spin into a disaster. It
is time for detachment and to neutralize your thought process, I know
you are angry and hurt and rightfully so, but this is a test. And,
because it is your area of weakness your natural tendency is to let your
emotions and thoughts run away with you. It is an illusion in Maya, yes
your son was put through something that is likely very hard. But, in
order to help him, your job is to calm him, heal, and listen. Be there
without projecting your thoughts at him or the person who did this. Now
is the time to love your enemies, and to really put it in God's hands.
Lessons are sometimes not fun, but never the less your son will rally
and learn something from it provided it is left as clear and clean as
possible. Perhaps your son will shed light on it for you, did he and
this person have negative energy between the two.  Is it karmic? Some
questions to ask, what does this mean? Why my son and me? But, not in
that why didn't you take care of us attitude but why did this come down
at this time, and with us, do we have something to learn through it that
will be a blessing. God works for you and not against you. Transform it.
Even if you can't do this now, keep it inside so that you will be able
to do this aSAP. God Bless both of you and hang in there. I remember a
situation when my daughter was just about your sons age. We lived in a
small town where there was a lot of competition and jalousie among the
kids. Anyway my daughter was on a swing in the school ground, Virginia
City Nevada has the school where cars could drive right through the
school ground. It is a very old town built on the side of a hill.
Anyway, this girl who was maybe 16 pulled here car up right under Tammy
so that when she was swinging she came down right on the hood ornament
right on her tail bone. It was very hard on Tammy, and anyway, there is
karma between these girls. Now it is some 18 years later and I believe
healing is coming into it. Not easy, but it is something for them to
overcome. We didn't add to it so there is a good chance it can be
dissolved in this lifetime. Gloria



Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 
From: lodpressATNOSPAMinetworld.com (Larry Newman)
Subject: Re: emergency

eileenrcATNOSPAMix.netcom.com wrote:
> 
> Anne Wright wrote:
> >
> > I tell you what. It is a damn good thing that we have each other, because
> > there is no way I would survive without you guys right now. My 13 year old
> > son was physically abused by the assistant principal today. We filed the
> > police report and the whole bit. Guess what? I taught at that school for
> > ten years,,,, and I knew this would happen. He has several prior
> > convictions..........But i NEVER thought it would be me. I feel like christ
> > on the cross. How much must we suffer. i am devestated. Where are my
> > teacher friends? Why would they be honoring his gag order? The shit. This
> > is an emergency. Please write back. I need help now.Anne
> 
> It gets easier - honest. This too shall pass.
> My Kundalini upheaval began 30 years ago, and in all that time, I have
> kept my experiences almost entirely to myself. Now, for the first time,
> with this K-list, I feel it is useful to talk about what happened to me.
> Not that I feel a NEED to. I no longer need validation, approval, or even
> companionship, though I often enjoy it.
> For you, Anne, dear caring and struggling soul, and for others here who
> might benefit, I offer, for the first time, this (abbreviated) story:
> Often in the beginning, when K was first active, I felt a  very powerful
> Presence - a beingness which did not react to anything - no judgement, no
> analytical processes, no craving, no aversion - just pure awareness -
> like an unblinking eye. I just called it My Friend. Just being in the
> presence of My Friend, without comunication, just perfect timeless
> awareness, educated me and filled me with profound wonder.
> It was about a year after my initial K-upheaval. The internal fireworks
> had settled down and my outer life was in an uproar. One night, my
> husband came home drunk, his clothes ripped and covered with vomit,
> hauled me out of bed in the middle of the night and beat me viciously. I
> really thought I was about to die. But he spent his wrath, and then he
> got amorous. When he finally passed out and I came to, I got help, took
> my two little children and left him forever.
> Later that night, as I lay quaking with shock, bleeding, bruised, some
> bones broken, I sent a silent cry into the darkness. Where ARE you, My
> Friend! How could you let this happen to me?! Don't you pity me in my
> agony - smashed and homeless with two precious little ones . . .HELP!!
> And, by golly, My Friend was there. But not with cheery words. Not with
> warm fuzzy feelings. Not with golden promises. Not with angelic form,
> piteous gaze nor outstretched caring hands. No. But with a much greater
> gift: A silent equanimous mirror. I was aware of myself starkly, calmly -
> my exact situation, emotional and physical state, my outrage and pain -
> nothing I didn't already know, but just duplicated exactly. The Presence
> approached, mirrored me a moment and was gone. That was it. And it was
> the most powerful healing experience I have ever had. Instantly, I
> stopped dramatising and resisting, and 90% of the problems vanished. I
> slept peacefully.
> In the years since, I've developed that Witness Consciousness through
> various practices, and as with many aspects of the Kundalini experience,
> that which I once perceived and pondered, I have to a large extent,
> become.
> And in my reading recently, I found reference to the aspect of Kundalini
> known as the Witness or Mirror Consciousness. Well, how about that!?
> So Anne, I offer you no comfort except the Mirror. Your strength needs no
> addition. Try to observe your hurt and anger, and that of the others
> involved, with some compassionate detachment, and know that you are
> already healed.
> Love, E.
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Eileen, beautiful sharing and so true, this is exactly how it is meant
to serve you. By learning detachment you have the power to leep
buildings with a single move, and to literally overcome what is standing
right in front of you. Kundalini is your lifeforce at work for you,
helping and guiding, when it is at work and in harmony with the HOly
Spirit it makes you a conscious cosmic traveler alive to work in the
heavens, the earth and in all places of consciousness that is a part of
the unified field or Divine will. Love and thanks for the sharing Gloria

-

Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 
From: Jan Watson 
Subject: Re: emergency

Hello  Eileen

I would very much like to learn more about the Mirror Consciousness, the 
Witness Consciousness.  You seem to have some control over its 
appearance.  How did you come to that point? Can you help others learn? 
It sounds so much like the mirror of stories my grandmother told me of 
and I read of as a child and the mirror in the poetry of Omar Khayam and 
Rumi and....  Thank you

jan



Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 
From: kundaliniATNOSPAMjuno.com (N L)
Subject: Re: Television and Kundalini [quartz & glass]

On Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:30:28 -0500 slcofksATNOSPAMfeist.com (Philip St. Romain)
writes:

>Does anyone else have this most annoying problem?  What can be done 
>about
>it?  I can live without tv, but it would be nice to watch a litlle
>something every now and then.
-
Try placing a piece of _real_ quartz glass between you and your T.V.
preferably large enough to cover the front of your T.V. I have read that
the military uses quartz glass as protection from microwaves and other
kinds of radiation. Also, glass such as window glass is supposed to
protect one from scalar waves. However, I doubt window glass would work
in the case of a T.V. since it already has a glass front. Sorry, but I
have no idea where you can get quartz glass or what it costs. You might
do a WWW search.

-

Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 
From: Dolce Vita 
Subject: Re: emergency

Dear Ann,
I know how you feel, I have 3 children and my husband has 3 more (6 in 
total) and everyday you live "with your heart in your mouth",( like the 
old Spanish saying) with their problems and incidents. I have taken my 
12 year old son 8 times to get stitches in his head and face, my 
daughters also, my husband''s oldest daughter is pregnant of a married 
man, she is 27 (at least she is not a child anymore) well.. life poses 
conflicts and problems...but since I had k awakening I find that every 
problem I encounter I make it into an opportunity to clean karma and 
serve God in anyway I can. Instead of saying why me? you say what else 
can I solve.... K awakening changes you constantly and rapidly.All will 
pass and in a month you will look back and see it very far away. 
I wish you the best, and many blessings in your handling of this one, 
remember each child has his own path also, as Kalhil Gibran said in "The 
Prophet" about children:..
"Your children are not your children, they are the sons and daughters of 
life....".they live in the house of tomorrow.....that you cannot visit, 
not even in dreams"
In love and Light,
Lissette



Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 
From: fluteATNOSPAMProdigy.com (CAROLYN MALONEY)
Subject: Energy movement in the physical

Here's something I thought I should share with you.. From my guru 
when I asked a question that was asked on this listserver.

Subject: The Answer....(you know most of this, but it's good to have 
it 
	
The cerebro-spinal fluid is a buffering medium for the tissues that
conduct the energy.  The energy, itself being "fluid", passes back 
and
forth through the channel of the cerebro-spinal system, and is 
conducted
out into the body and the outer world according to our
manipulations...our meditations...our dreams.
Notice how some people HAVE to overcomplicate the uncomplicated?
It works.  So does the Sun.  Do do the Oceans.  You don't need
complicated systems of doing, just an UNcomplicated system of Knowing.
 
See?  It's only complex if one chooses to MAKE it complex....or if
you're gonna make money off'n it, and have to complicate it in order 
to
make it unique and teachable.  [*sigh!*]  Commercialism.

Flute
aka Carolyn Maloney



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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 
From: fluteATNOSPAMprodigy.com (CAROLYN MALONEY)
Subject: TV?

what's TV.. giggling.. I have found the distraction of TV boring for 
over 6 years now.. 
however the Internet.. is fasinating.. we are connecting in a unity 
that superceded all
limiting prejudices.. and its wonderful.
About the why.. Electromagnetic energy from the Screens.. chuckle, 
enjoy it.
and use it to send or receive energy from others.. giggling.. astro 
travel from
a keyboard.
flute



Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 
From: fluteATNOSPAMprodigy.com (CAROLYN MALONEY)
Subject: Plays on words

Isn't the play on/with words the sign of an abstract mind
one that loves to read/write poetry and looks at things from a
different prospective.

I love'd the movie "Dead Poets Society"
love,
flute
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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 
From: fluteATNOSPAMprodigy.com (CAROLYN MALONEY)
Subject: Punning around

gasp.. I love plays on words and dangle my sentences periodically..
giggling
flute
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From:	 Mary Knapp
Subject:	 Punning around


At 11:45 PM 11/12/96 -0800, you wrote:
>You wrote: Like, realllly baaad car karma??? SICK, SICK, Sick, sick..
..
>I can't believe I never thought of it ;~}

>One of the classic symptoms of manic states is the elevated tendency 
to 
>make plays on words (interestingly it is one of the classic symptoms 
of 
>K-A also)    -).
>
I sometimes see it as 'observing the words at play'.  Then again, I 
think of
it as how to keep a fast-moving brain occupied - without alerting 
the
Highway Patrol (thought patrol?)  of excessive speeds and lack of 
seat
belts, etc ...
M



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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 
From: Mary Knapp 
Subject: minor problem

I was so miserable until I read the posts from Lori and Anne.  I truly hope
things are better there.  This list is wonderful for support and advice and
so my guess is things are of course better.

My more minor problem is that I am feeling lopsided.  My right side
continues to manifest certain problems that my left does not. Mostly in my
ear and sinus.  This has been going on for 6 weeks now.  Antrais Ray (pardon
the spelling) cautioned that this meant someone had made me sick.  I
dismissed his interpretation but since then I have noticed that a co-worker
who I used to spend a lot of time with has a very negative effect on me.  We
used to gossip together and I decided it was not good for me to indulge in
this.  I thought I was fairly subltle and gradual in ceasing the activity,
but I do get negative vibes there and energy sapping.  On day I shieled
strongly and the next day she seemed surprise when I said I was well.  She
seems like a regular nice person who just really loves gossip.

I have actually become a non-smoker in disgust over these symptoms and yet
they persist.  They have lessened but no ways near as much as I anticipated.  

Well, anyway I am more the type to wonder what this is all symbolic of
rather than wanting some exercises to do to re-set the balance......however
any and all responses, advice, support, etc. greatly, greatly appreciated.
This list is a major lifeline for me and for my belief in my own sanity some
days.  Bless  you all over and over again.



Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 
From: traveler 
Subject: Re: minor problem

Dear Mary,
-
I have defintely found some people to be "toxic" to me; generally they are
people I suspect are toxic to themselves. I tend to pick up their toxicity
if not careful. They are people who lie to themselves, hate themselves, are
stuck in their childhood dramas, stuck in their emotional chewing gum, etc....

This can occur especially over time as I grow closer to someone who seemed
fine in the beginning. Then as he or she seemed changed---got more toxic---I
was already "in" with them. Maybe they just got more disappointed in their
failure to manipulate me according to their normal plan.
-
I have learned (through trial and error) that when someone is toxic to me,
to cut the cord in a clean break. I have to for my own protection, much the
way others on the list would turn off the tv and avoid it for a while, or
stop eating meat, etc.

The symtoms are that whenever I am around this person, I leave, somehow
feeling vaguely worse each time. A pattern forms. Worse can mean guilty,
depressed, confused, annoyed, worried, or even namelessly upset.

So it is a blessing for me to learn to take care of myself by watching these
early signals, so that both of us are spared the drawn out anguish. Toxic
people may "change" but they may not; that is up to Providence, not me. My
job is to detach. From afar, I always send them prayers, love, light,
blessings, insight, etc, so that I may begin to feel whole myself again. I
pray for their happiness in life.

Best, Patti


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Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 
From: Mary Knapp 
Subject: minor problem addendum

A right sided manifestation that balanced (almost) and that I forgot to mention:

        I got a small red blemish on the inside corner of my upper eye area,
above the lid, below the brow. Little round red spot about the size of
my pupil.  No big deal.  It seemed to come and go.  I mostly         noticed
it in the mornings as I put on eye makeup.  Eventually I got a
nearly matching one above the left eye.  Since I wear glasses it was
more like six eyes than four eyes.  Oh, well...

M   



Date: Sun, 17 Nov 1996 
From: fluteATNOSPAMprodigy.com (CAROLYN MALONEY)
Subject: Re: minor problem

YES.. there are some people that alarms go off in my head in warning 
against them.. One in particular in On Line sessions.. He said nice 
things and was rather smart.. but my brain just did not want anything 
to do with him..   Grin.. My intuition was right as usual.. After a 
while he got used to being around the group and began some real 
trouble.. 
flute.. pay attention to your alarm system 
giggling
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From:	 traveler
Subject:	 Re: minor problem



Dear Mary,
-
I have defintely found some people to be "toxic" to me; generally they are
people I suspect are toxic to themselves. I tend to pick up their toxicity if
not careful. They are people who lie to themselves, hate themselves, are stuck
in their childhood dramas, stuck in their emotional chewing gum, etc....

This can occur especially over time as I grow closer to someone who seemed fine
in the beginning. Then as he or she seemed changed---got more toxic---I was
already "in" with them. Maybe they just got more disappointed in their failure
to manipulate me according to their normal plan.
-
I have learned (through trial and error) that when someone is toxic to me, to
cut the cord in a clean break. I have to for my own protection, much the way
others on the list would turn off the tv and avoid it for a while, or stop
eating meat, etc.
The symtoms are that whenever I am around this person, I leave, somehow feeling
vaguely worse each time. A pattern forms. Worse can mean guilty, depressed,
confused, annoyed, worried, or even namelessly upset.

So it is a blessing for me to learn to take care of myself by watching these
early signals, so that both of us are spared the drawn out anguish. Toxic
people may "change" but they may not; that is up to Providence, not me. My job
is to detach. From afar, I always send them prayers, love, light,

blessings, insight, etc, so that I may begin to feel whole myself again. I pray
for their happiness in life.

Best, Patti

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