kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 96 : Issue 207
1 Date: Thu, 24 Oct 1996
From: hbarrettATNOSPAMix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.)
Subject: Re: Affecting somebody else's Kundalini
Although transmission of k can happen from person to person, it feels
to me that one is then in a relationship to an intelligent energy, has
a responsibility to it, rather than (necessarily) to the person who
awakened the k. A wise friend helped me enormously by saying that k is
ALWAYS THERE RUNNING, but I, the receiver am now being amped-up. This
helps mitigate the danger of the individuals or the relationship
becoming grandiose. What I am trying to say wouldn't, of course, apply
to being awakened by a perfectly realized master. Some of us on the
list are in loving, sexual relationships with people who don't see the
universe the same way as we do but are supportive, nonetheless. We may
see that we are awakening k in them, particularly sexually, but it is a
very delicate area to handle and for me requires all the love,
sensitivity and awareness I can muster. A magnificent teaching in
itself. Hope this makes sense to you. Love, Holly
2 Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996
From: Natha Bhaktyananda
Subject: Re: travel on!
Dear Natha,
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I am alarmed that you take the name of kundalini to talk to anyone that way.
I find it especially alarming in view of the fact that this message talked
about love.
If you reread your letter you would notice that it is teeming with judgement.
In a loving way, I respectfully request that you speak from your own
experience and not condemn others who have an equal right to contribute
their exeperiences and observations.
The k manifests in many ways. What makes you think that you are really
qualified to judge another? How would you feel if someone judged you like
that? Do you really think you are being loving by writing letters like this?
Why are you so upset by someone talking about love? Must be a pretty chargy
subject for you.
Thanks for listening.
Peace...traveler
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Dear Traveler (?!),
Glad you mentioned the thing about love -- maybe we should make
ourselves clear on that point first. I don't know much about you, so I
will have to tell (with all due respect :-) some general things, since I
do not know how many true mystics (i.e. people who have reached the true
measure of love) you have personally known during your life. I have
known quite a few, some of them living isolated in the snowy Himalayas
or on Mount Athos, others from the dust of Indian villages and others
lecturing in metropoles, most of them revered as holy men or women, and
all of them agreed in witnessing that love has nothing to do with
flabiness, weakness, passivity, or mixed up tolerance.
If you will recall the example of our planet's love-archetype (and I
refer to Jesus, of course), you will remember that he was pretty much
what some would call "intolerant" nowadays: he called some people
vipers, wolves and sinners, he raised sternly against all sorts of
spiritual falsity, and many other such things, and so have done many
subsequent saints from the East and West along the centuries. This has
not prevented them from being much more filled with love (both human and
divine) than any of their neighbours, because they had the correct
understanding that to rise against someone's mistakes does *not* mean to
rise against the person itself but only against the evil contained in
the mistake.
I really hope that you are not going to serve me the bull with: "yea,
but you are no Jesus nor any saint", since according to this phoney
judgement nobody can *ever* copy any of the acts of love done by the
predecessors, since no one is perfect (at least in the beginning). On
the contrary, all the traditions repeatedly invite us *precisely* to
copy the divine acts of love done by the great spirits of our planet.
That is why, to criticise someone's mistake, without hating the person
at the same time, is IMHO an act of love. Especially when that mistake
can lead to insanity or to the misguiding of others...
As about the fact that kundalini manifests in various ways, that is not
an excuse for making phantasmagoric statements about it. It is exactly
as you would say: well, electricity manifests in so many ways, so what
do you have against one making his own laws of Kirchoff :-) Anyone can
set forth his own new laws about gravitation, but this does not make
them necessarily *true* from an objective standpoint.
I will conclude this message by noticing that you sometimes do not
content yourself to attack my mistakes (as you see them), but also seem
to have something against my person (like for me having a problem with
the chargy subject of love, etc.), which is quite the oposite of the
love principles exposed above (charge the error, not the person). Maybe
we should limit ourselves to the talk about kundalini?
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With blessing,
N. Bhaktyananda (which, ironically, means in translation "bliss of love
(or devotion)"!)
--
Natha Bhaktyananda
K=F8bmagergade 28, 2., 1150 K
Denmark
Tf.: (45) 33930858, Fax: (45) 33930668
3 Date: Fri, 25 Oct 96
From: "PHUOC NGUYEN"
Subject: RE: Galvaco
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From: Peter Hadorn
Sent: Thursday, October 24, 1996 10:47 AM
To: kundalini-lATNOSPAMexecpc.com
Subject: Galvaco
Does or did any of you have contact with an entity called "Galvaco" or
"Galvanico" ? If so, please mail me.
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Hi Peter
The only one person, who is related to Galvaco or Galvanico, is you. And only
you can contact Galvaco: here is the way.
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1. Lie down and try to relax all your muscle: Focus on your feed and make it
become warmer and heavier. Move this comfortable feeling up to your knee, than
to your whole body step by step.
2. Call Gaaaal .... Vaaaaa... Coooo....
3. Push your calling forward and far away [not up, not down, not left side,
not right side, not spinning] right in front of you.
4. When you see Galvaco at about 45 degree to 60 degree downward.
5. Then pray for Galvaco and it will be OK. Don't try to come to near of
Galvaco
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Every body can practice this to meet all your pass away family member but
remember only one person at a time. (Oh my English!)
Best wish
phuoc nguyen :-)
4 Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996
From: Peter Hadorn
Subject: Re: Galvaco
PHUOC NGUYEN wrote:
>
> ----------
> From: Peter Hadorn
> Sent: Thursday, October 24, 1996 10:47 AM
>
> Does or did any of you have contact with an entity called "Galvaco" or
> "Galvanico" ? If so, please mail me.
> ----
> Hi Peter
> The only one person, who is related to Galvaco or Galvanico, is you. And only
> you can contact Galvaco: here is the way.
>
> 1. Lie down and try to relax all your muscle: Focus on your feed and make it
> become warmer and heavier. Move this comfortable feeling up to your knee, than
> to your whole body step by step.
> 2. Call Gaaaal .... Vaaaaa... Coooo....
> 3. Push your calling forward and far away [not up, not down, not left side,
> not right side, not spinning] right in front of you.
> 4. When you see Galvaco at about 45 degree to 60 degree downward.
> 5. Then pray for Galvaco and it will be OK. Don't try to come to near of
> Galvaco
>
> Every body can practice this to meet all your pass away family member but
> remember only one person at a time. (Oh my English!)
> Best wish
> phuoc nguyen :-)
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Dear Phuoc
Thanks for your reply and suggestions. I know about the techniques and I
am in touch with Galvanico. However I don't think that I'm the only one,
because he has "told" me that he is channeling to other people as well.
Regards
Peter
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5 Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996
From: rjills
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Raunak Kothari wrote:
>
> Hello! Glad to be at last with others who know of reality.
- From my own experience, it seems that glimpsing (cosmic) beauty is
sufficient in itself for the ar
>
> .-Your message was all in one line and fell off.
But yes, I think beauty is very much apart of K. But probably from a
particular chakra. I always get chills when I hear a good opera singer.
Royale
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6 Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996
From: "Philip St. Romain"
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
My kundalini experience has been fairly intense since 1987. I describe
much about it in my book, Kundalini Energy and Christian Spirituality
(Crossroads Publ., 1991; New York).
My biggest problem is with what I call "kundalini ears." I experience
intense pressures and sensations in my ear pinnae at times. It's almost
as though they are a kind of stress barometer. I'm sure it's the pranic
energy and acupressure points manifesting. I find that various hand
and other mudras affect the flow of energy and the sensations in the ears.
In fact, it seems that there are both positive and negative consequences
for almost any mudra I use. I'm still searching for the "best all round;"
have tried many, many kinds.
I continue my journey as a Catholic Christian, and I continue, as described
in the book, to try to understand the relationship between kundalini and
the Holy Spirit. There are similarities and differences, it seems.
Peace to all who read this! I enjoy the internet and am grateful for
this site.
Philip St. Romain
7 Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996
From: BCALMATNOSPAMGREENHEART.COM
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Philip St. Romain wrote:
>
> My kundalini experience has been fairly intense since 1987. I describe
> much about it in my book, Kundalini Energy and Christian Spirituality
> (Crossroads Publ., 1991; New York).
>
> My biggest problem is with what I call "kundalini ears." I experience
> intense pressures and sensations in my ear pinnae at times. It's almost
> as though they are a kind of stress barometer. I'm sure it's the pranic
> energy and acupressure points manifesting. I find that various hand
> and other mudras affect the flow of energy and the sensations in the ears.
> In fact, it seems that there are both positive and negative consequences
> for almost any mudra I use. I'm still searching for the "best all round;"
> have tried many, many kinds.
>
> I continue my journey as a Catholic Christian, and I continue, as described
> in the book, to try to understand the relationship between kundalini and
> the Holy Spirit. There are similarities and differences, it seems.
>
> Peace to all who read this! I enjoy the internet and am grateful for
> this site.
>
> Philip St. Romain
Dear Philip St Romain :
I am very delighted to see your name on cyberspace. I read your book a
few years ago. It is a very good in the field of K. Especially from your
perspective as a Chatholic with science background. To my undertanding K
is the cornerstone of human whole life evolution; it transcends all
religions and cultures. Unfortunately the term Kundalini itself is still
normally taken as something related to Yoga or strictly Indian or
Eastern, while actually it exists in all traditions under different
names and in somewhat different forms, such as kalabah (sp?) and Chi,or
Holy Spirit in action, for instance. But basically it is the mechanism
of the evolution of human mind as Gopi Ksrishna genuinely speculated.
So I think if we approach K as a scientific study we will one day bring
about breakthoughs which can speed up human evolution, ameliorate human
nature and create a peacefull and harmonious world full of love and
compassion among all; perhaps that is exactly the Kingdom of God Lord
Jesus Christ talked about.
I hope we will have more and more people on this site who seriously and
thoughtfully bring out their knowledge and experience of K so that we
would have more information to study deeper such challenging area as K.
We would also challenge any scientists out there to seriously study the
K experiences provided by the list members here or elsewhere and help us
learn more about our life of which we no doubt know very little after
thousands of years probing in the dark through the jungles of philosophy
and religions.
Sorrily after decades of meditation practice I still do not have any
actual experience of real K.A., except some light sensation and blissful
feelings; therefore I do not have any real experience to offer you to
deal with your K discomfort. In my opinion if some how you can maintain
a balanced and relaxed mind it will alleviate the problems. Perhaps you
have already read a lot about K, there are two books that may help I do
not know if you have read them : The Kundalini Experience by Dr. Lee
Sannella and Kundalina Awakening A Gentle Guide... by John Selby which
was also mentioned by some of our list members here as a very good book
on K. Also Saharaj Yoga approach appear to be the most gentle way to
handle K.A.
Sorry the post gets too long. I apologize my fellow list members.
Love and peace to all
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bcalm.
8 Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996
From: Juliet
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Philip St. Romain wrote:
>
> I continue my journey as a Catholic Christian, and I continue, as
> described
> in the book, to try to understand the relationship between kundalini > > and
> the Holy Spirit.
>
> Philip St. Romain
Hello! Your work sounds interesting! I would be very curious to know
if you have considered the idea that kundalini may have played a part in
the development of early gnosticism--and, if so, what your thoughts are.
Do you consider yourself a theologian?
Juliet
9 Date: Fri, 25 Oct 1996
From: "Your friend at:"
Subject: Signing off
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To whom it may concern,
Hi!
I would like to introduce myself. I was born 12/17/57 in New
Orleans, Louisiana and still live near New Orleans. I am developing a
community service organization. You can check our website at
(http://www.gnofn.org/~oxoasis). Thank you for your patience and if I can
be of any assistance, please let me know.
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Unfortunately, I am unable to keep up with the messages on this
list. I will have to look over the digest when I have time. You are all
welcome to email me whenever you like.
Hope you are all having a great day!
Sincerely,
Christopher
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"Those who are seers of the truth have concluded
that of the nonexistent (the material body)
there is no endurance and of the eternal (the soul)
there is no change. This they have concluded
by studying the nature of both." (Bhagavad-gita as it is 2.16)
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10 Date: Sat, 26 Oct 1996
From: Jim Cook
Subject: Words From Einstein
" A human being is part of a whole, called by us_universe_, a part
limited in time and space.
He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something
separated from the rest...a kind of optical delusion of his conciousness.
The delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal
- desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us.
Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our
circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of
nature in its beauty."
" The only real valuable thing is intuition "
" Education is what remains after one has forgotten
everything he learned in school "
- Albert Einstein