'kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 205 

Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 
From: rjills 
Subject: Vote for K.

There are 8 parties on my ballot. Why no words on them from multimedia?  O.K.
its off topic but Demos. and Repubs. have conspired to steal election. A vote
for them is a vote for multinationl business control of all. Just an opinion.
Royale



Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 
From: rjills 
Subject: Re: The Dark Night of the Soul

Brent, 
Id say yes to most of your questions. I first read of it 
in Evelyn Underwood or Underhill(?) book on Mysticism.
 An old Classic. Although Several Christian writers have
 spoken of it. (Mester Eckhart, ST Thomas Aquinas, and more).
 See local library.
About meditation, just relax in anyway, and think only of your
 breath, follow it in and out for a long time. Thats it!  Royale



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Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 
From: rjills 
Subject: Re: Time & Visions

I wouldnt call it "irrational" but mystical. Also it seems that you are seeing
on another plane rather than the physical. Love Royale



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Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 
From: Antaris Ra 
Subject: Important for November count with energy-black-outs 

However, in November you have to reckon with an escalation, in fact in 
all areas caused by the renewed increase in frequency
which menas in clear: Natural disasters world-wide in form of 
earthquakes, storms in the Caribbean and in the Pacific; cold
spell in Australia and Russia; heat waves in South-America; drought in 
many countries of Africa; fire, smoke and stench are
perceptible from Asia; volcanic eruptions in the Pacific and the West 
Coast of America; the Vesuv rumbles; floods at the
Asiatic Coasts of the Indian Ocean. Traveling by plane is not necessarily 
recommended. 

Important for October 1996:

The preparations for the coming turmoils by the increase in frequency 
during November 1996 are necessary in form of
meditation, turning to the principle of GOD in the all-embracing love. 
Man should get strength and instructions through the
inwards directed meditation/prayer (also refer to the message of 
23.09.1996 by Jeremias).

Evacuation-periods:

Again the information to the light-workers: 

The first evacuation-wave is starting from 04.11.1996 and is lasting 
until beginning January 1997. 

Love simply IS,
Antaris
limiteATNOSPAMinfonet.com.py



Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 
From: traveler 
Subject: elections

Interesting thought.

This am I looked up the reference to a couple of the recommended yoga pages,
in nice, new new-age land, and links being what they are, wound up looking
at cult de-programming news that discussed shocking horrible things going on
at many new age yoga sites! (It's true...won't name names, here, but there
they were, lotsa biggies, all orientations, with written
documentaries).....kinda scary. Whoever wants to look up an organization can
probably get this info by lookng up cults or cults and deprogramming under
alta vista. (I really stumbled onto it by accident.) 

Even the Natural Party is really backed by the TM group. Don't remember if
they were listed on the "bad cult" list, specifically, but the point is,
what is there that will replace what we have that really is better and not
another substitute for what is out there now? Kinda like what I went through
hoping for a new list... what new list??? Even the old list right now is
having an issue of survival. Interesting times we live in.

Kundalini is about direct contact, one to one, at least for me, thought I
enjoy learning about all other experiennces. And after experiences like this
morning, I reconfirm my gratitude at my independence.

Best, traveler



Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 
From: Sherry Tapke 
Subject: Re: Is the universe real?

Brent wrote:
I suspect that everything that I see and interact with (you know - the
material world) is a sort of hallucination and that it isn't actually
there...

Sherry here: 
This quote helps me sort out the real/unreal:
"Nothing real can be threatened. Nothing unreal exists. 
- Herein lies the peace of God."  A Course in Miracles
--- 
In Service to the Light, I AM Sherry  (aka Marana)
http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/1616  (Personal)
http://home.earthlink.net/~actionagency  (Business)



Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 
From: Chuck Tedesco 
Subject: Re: Rolfing

Good thought, Howard.  It is my understanding that going back every 
couple of months for a tune-up from the Rolfer is a good idea. Like a
piano wire, a muscle needs to be worked and adjusted. And, once 
adjusted, it needs some physical caressing and "spiritual attention".
-- 
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Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 
From: Sandrak Schmeil 
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center 

i am looking for a place to practice kundalini yoga in Bellingham, WA

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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 1956 
From: lodpressATNOSPAMinetworld.com (Larry Newman)
Subject: Re: Cold Feet

HowardCushATNOSPAMaol.com wrote:
> 
> Folks,
> 
> For five years or so, I have suffered from cold feet.  Unless it is 80
> degrees, my feet are cold and numb.  In the winter, I have to wear slippers
> with microwave inserts to keep warm. I explode the inserts because I can't
> get them warm enough.
> 
> After 8 months of humongous K energy, this still persists.  The energy of the
> cosmos courses through me and still my feet are somehow closed to it.  Not so
> with my hands, which would make this a more common medical condition.  I've
> explored both traditional and alternative treatments, to no avail.  I'm not
> suffering, just wondering -- does anyone else have experience or thoughts
> about this?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Howard
Hi Howard,
I can give you some new technology out that will help with this. I got
involved in biomagnetics about four months ago. They have an infared
quilt that literally comes from the NASA technology used in space and it
works. If you and your partner are in the same bed and you know how one
sleeps hot and the other cold, the quilt uses your own body heat to
regulate your magnetic field. Both become totally comfortable. I haven't
got my quilt yet but everyone just raves about it. Let me know if you
want more info. Also the magsteps help with it, the magnets create
circulation in the feet. Gloria



Date: Mon, 27 Aug 1956 
From: lodpressATNOSPAMinetworld.com (Larry Newman)
Subject: Re: Is the universe real?

Brent Blalock wrote:
> 
> I have this theory.
> 
> I suspect that everything that I see and interact with (you know - the
> material world) is a sort of hallucination and that it isn't actually
> there, I just trick myself into thinking it is.  This would, of course,
> mean that all of you aren't real.  It's just me by myself playing tricks on
> myself.
> 
> For whatever reason, I've found that adopting that belief/philosophy
> increases my patience and tolerance of things around me that I don't like.
> (No sense in worrying about them - they don't exist!)
> 
> In reading a book about yoga, I came across a philosophy that was similar
> to that one.  It was saying something about how when Atman comes into
> contact with the physical world, Maya (or some Sanskrit word translating to
> "illusion") was the result, and that the physical world isn't actually
> there.
> 
> I was wondering if any of you K-awakened people have received similar

Brent,
HI, it is certainly a way of becoming detached if it doesn't separate
you from people. By staying on that fine line of what is and isn't you
can do the dance, and it will work. Gloria
> insights as a result of the changes and restructuring taking place.

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Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 
From: lodpressATNOSPAMinetworld.com (Larry Newman)
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center

Sandrak Schmeil wrote:
> 
> i am looking for a place to practice kundalini yoga in Bellingham, WA

Sandrak,
	I believe you can go into the internet under yoga and there is a
listing for teachers. I am in Reno and a person from Hawaii found me
that way. 
	Check out my homepage at http://www.inetworld.com/lodpress/

	And, I will help you as much as possible over e-mail. The book I wrote
on detachment would also help by teaching how to get yourself in the
observation mode, the discipline involves always being in observation
until unity is manifest. Go with God Gloria
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Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 
From: Jan Watson 
Subject: Re: Cold Feet

Let me know if you
> want more info. Also the magsteps help with it, the magnets create
> circulation in the feet. Gloria
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Yes please, and probably others may wish to know too.  How about posting 
this info?

Thanks

jan



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Date: Tue, 22 Oct 1996 
From: liaATNOSPAMquadrant.net (lia pas)
Subject: cheery goobye

hello all

the time has come for me to say goobye to you all. seems that the universe
has some pretty intense plans for me as far as my music and yoga goes, so
i'm signing off the list.
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i've had a pretty good and interesting time here and have met many great
people. if anyone wants to email me personally still, please do so.

merry met and merry part

Lia



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Date: Mon, 27 Aug 1956 
From: lodpressATNOSPAMinetworld.com (Larry Newman)
Subject: Re: Cold Feet

Jan Watson wrote:
> 
> Let me know if you
> > want more info. Also the magsteps help with it, the magnets create
> > circulation in the feet. Gloria
> 
> Yes please, and probably others may wish to know too.  How about posting
> this info?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> jan

HI all,
Happy to send out information about the magnetic products I would send
it snail mail so I need names and addresses. I can tell you that the
magnets have been a wonderful asset in the past four months. I believe
they were brought to me to assist me with my energy work, and to give my
body a chance to really regenerate while I sleep. I just had a post from
someone who had a friend going into a mental hospital with problems from
the energies, this is a simple balancing tool that you can experience
and know immediately if it works or not. Gloria

I had been told to get off some medication I thought it meant meditating
more in the middle of the night when I wake so often, instead the
magnets came to me. And, it was taken care of for me.



Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 
From: GrandmmaATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: Time & Visions

Dear Dan
I have done a lot of writing concerning the illusion of time.  Since my K
awakening models for understanding concepts of space, matter and time have
surfaced.   Here are my thoughts on the subject.  
 Boundaries serve as the veil between the physical and spiritual dimensions.
 Boundaries limit our awareness of the spiritual dimension and protect us
from the physical world.   Boundaries create time.  Space is the matter of
time.  The fewer boundaries we choose to participate in, the slower time
seems to flow.  The more technology one participates in, the faster one
experiences time passing.  If a person can get to the space within the
moment, (a no boundaries situation) they experience a timeless state.   Such
states may include: dreams,  meditational states, satori, some crisis
situations,  alcoholic black outs,  extreme emotional states etc.   As our
boundaries begin to open through the K awakening, I have often found myself
in a timeless state. I have also been able to slow time down by not
validating excessive boundaries.   The reason time seems to be hastening in
this day and age is because of all the technological boundaries society has
chosen to participate in.  The more technology enmeshment, the faster time
will seem to flow.   Another way to understand this concept is in the
breakdown of matter.  All gross matter eventually returns to Mother Earth.
  The more enmeshed technology becomes, the more energy is spent in this
breakdown.   Time then hastens to make up for that which is diminished.  The
more technological enmeshment we participate in, the less time we will have
to enjoy it.   New borns experience timelessness in that their boundaries are
not yet formed.  As we grow our boundaries form according to our parenting
and  societys influence.  The awakening process is the reopening of the
boundary (to be once again like a child).  The more open our individual
boundaries become, the more energy we are then able to project.   By
projecting energy rather than hoarding it one can actually alter their
envolvment with time.  Boundaries are the double edge sword.  Balance is the
key.  Unconditional love opens boundaries.  This subject gets difficult to
explain in mere words but hope some of this has made sense.   With open
boundaries,   I send to you
Unconditional Love and light
Jean.       



Date: Wed, 23 Oct 96 
From: Mistress Angelique Serpent 
Subject: Re: Predestined Free Will

-  As a personal challenge, I am going to attempt to translate into small words.
At 13:20 18/10/96 -0700, you wrote:
>I have 'put this question out there'. It and the answer follows.
>Q. Which describes the past/present/future: 1. Everything is 
>preordained and will happen according to a predestined plan. or 2. 
>Everything is the result of a universal physical clockwork set in 
>motion that is altered by the action of free will.
>
>A. All physical events that are possibilities exist as one universal 
>illusion - past/present/future are one.
***Time and space do not really exist.
> This is the mirror in which the mind views and perceives itself in 'reality.' 
****Except in our heads.
>Not all that is conceivable is possible. 
****We can't do everything we think of,
>The multidimensional framework of 'reality' is 
>supported by the 'structure' of what is NOT possible. 
***because we believe in our limitations.
>All possibilities for you cannot exist either as the existence of one of your 
>possibilities depends on the existence and/or nonexistence of all other 
>sentient beings' possibilities. 
***and because we are all connected, and so we must take on some of the
limitations of culture, environment, and each other's views of who we are.
>Within this 'framework' moves the 
>consciousness which, by exercising free will, selects from the myriad 
>predestinations that have and always will exist and yet have no 
>existence of themselves without perception of the mirrored self and all 
>other selves.
There are many potential paths, in a spacetime that does not really exist.
By the choices we make, we choose which illusion of reality we get. That
makes it real, for us. 
> All is determined by predestined free will as perceived 
>by the self contemplating the illusion of reality and itself as 
>separate; as ego.
It is ego that wonders about free will in the first place, and ego that has
the experience of it. In truth the arena of spacetime is illusion, time is
not real, and the higher self charts the course, the options, and tweaks the
ego into thinking it's in charge.

>Love and LAUGHING LIGHT-) my scalp tickles!
>DAN-RF