kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 178

Date: Sat, 05 Oct 96 
From: Richard Satin 
Subject: FWD:  kundalini injury

Dear List Members,

From: questioner                \ Internet:    ()
Subject: kundalini injury

>I have kundalini injury like symtoms caused by inhalating cannabis(didnt 
know of it then)
>This happened year 1990.
>I was then   incorrectly diagnosed by swedish healthcare
> for about 4 years.
>1994 i ordered info about mercury poisoning from dental amalgam.
>The advice i got was to take large  amounts of 
antioxidants,vitamins,aminoacids,
>algeas(for heavymetals),selen(which is binding mercury to nonseparateble 
unites).
>I felt much better after already 10 minutes.
>
Nowadays i feel *ok*.

I am planning to remove my amalgamfillings and replace it with some  
composite material.
>
->
>Now i am wondering :does any of you *kundalinists* have  any info about:
>-research material on this disease
>-maybe adress to a specialist doctor
>-pointers to websites
>-info in treatment
>
>I have heard that the amercan psykology have started research;true?

I should appreciate an email with any kind of info.
>
>
>I have done a website with links on this:
>
>Regards
>questioner,
>sweden
>

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Rule Number 1 is, don't sweat the small stuff.
Rule Number 2 is, it's all small stuff.
Robert Eliot


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Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 
From: LIShamanATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Safe place

Dear List subscribers-

As a new subscriber, I have been very impressed with the depth of the content
expressed by the membership.  Other lists seem to be a lot of "chit chat".
Thank you all for keeping this list much more relevant and interesting.
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I have been a member of a psycho/spiritual community in New York state (about
3 hours from NYC) that is the safest place in the world to do deep pain work.
 The work is primarily on suppressed anger and suppressed fear, and is done is 
the context of a loving community of about 15 - 20 people.  It is a sacred
experience filled with dance, touch and good food!  As the experience
progresses, as each person is witness to each other's pain, the loving
community becomes closer and closer.  It is the only place I have been able
to do deep grief work and anger work because of the loving safety it
provides.
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This place is only available through word of mouth, and is not advertised.
 If anyone would like more information, please send me an email.  I am
putting this out because from some of the recent communications, some seem to
be at a point in their journeys where this place would be helpful.

With love,
John


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Date: Sat, 05 Oct 1996 
From: Royale Jills 
Subject: MT

To:MTs        My understanding was that we were to 
get the book and then do the lessons, and then to
 discuss this on-line. Correct? Royale


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Date: Sat, 05 Oct 1996 
From: lodpressATNOSPAMinetworld.com (Larry Newman)
Subject: Re: Safe place

LIShamanATNOSPAMaol.com wrote:
> 
> Dear List subscribers-
> 
> As a new subscriber, I have been very impressed with the depth of the content
> expressed by the membership.  Other lists seem to be a lot of "chit chat".
>  Thank
> you all for keeping this list much more relevant and interesting.
> 
> I have been a member of a psycho/spiritual community in New York state (about
> 3 hours from NYC) that is the safest place in the world to do deep pain work.
>  The
> work is primarily on suppressed anger and suppressed fear, and is done is the
> context of a loving community of about 15 - 20 people.  It is a sacred
> experience filled with dance, touch and good food!  As the experience
> progresses, as each person is witness to each other's pain, the loving
> community becomes closer and closer.  It is the only place I have been able
> to do deep grief work and anger work because of the loving safety it
> provides.
> 
> This place is only available through word of mouth, and is not advertised.
>  If anyone would like more information, please send me an email.  I am
> putting this out because from some of the recent communications, some seem to
> be at a point in their journeys where this place would be helpful.
> 
> With love,
> John

JOhn,
Sounds interesting, I recently went through something similar in a
weekend seminar here in Reno. It was very liberating and wonderful vibes
where folks really became one. Send the info my way, I know some people
in your area. Gloria


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Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 
From: traveler 
Subject: Re: Sexual etc.

Paco, your post was wonderful.

Forget for a moment issues others have brought up, such as whether semen is
lost in the bladder. ( I checked with 2 people, one a doctor) who say that
it is. According to medical knowledge this is not disputed in any way. 
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Still, as you say, too, one effect of ejaculation is detumescence, that is,
the reduction of swelling, the reduction of "energy"..it is a release that
leaves people feeling peaceful, calm, less agressive. IMHO, the world needs
*more* of this energy. When this energy is stored up, and unexpressed, it
can easily go from being "spiritual" to angry, agressive, uncomfortable, and
unsettling, as many people have observed. After all, energy is energy, and
it is we who decide whether it is good or bad, in each moment. We can enjoy
the feeling of tumesence, until...we get pissed at something, and then we
are agressive. This is fact.
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I for one feel the world would be a safer place if people would get peaceful
any way they could. I vote for more, not less, not withheld. 

This is not theory, not Holy Scriptures, just plain old horse sense. As far
as I can tell, the most peaceful societies are those where women are the
freest, which means that sex is the least repressed, overall. Very religious
societies that I know of often are very discriminatory against the body,
nature and women, saying they are of far lower value than the mind and
spirit.  These societies are happy to rape the planet. Why shouldn't
they-they feel the planet deserves this treatment for being so low and filthy!

It is natural to ejaculate. The birds do it, the bees do it. What makes
people think we are above nature and not part of it? 

Maybe the k is about the planet evolving spiritually---but then again,
maybe it is  about surviving! If we continue to rape the planet by denying
the value of the body, and of nature; if we continue to have wars--we will
not survive at all. Our world is in great danger, and if we don't learn how
to get along, and find peace, there will be nothing for reincarnated souls
to return to.




Date: Sat, 05 Oct 1996 
From: davelong 
Subject: Definition of Humanity

traveler wrote:
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> It is natural to ejaculate. The birds do it, the bees do it. What makes
> people think we are above nature and not part of it?

And, of course, dogs lick their butts. Does that make it okay for people
to do likewise?

> Maybe the k is about the planet evolving spiritually---but then again,
> maybe it is  about surviving! If we continue to rape the planet by denying
> the value of the body, and of nature; if we continue to have wars--we will
> not survive at all. Our world is in great danger, and if we don't learn how
> to get along, and find peace, there will be nothing for reincarnated souls
> to return to.

And, of course, there are 1.5 million deaths from abortion
in the US alone each year. When you look at history, you see
a growing and more inclusive definition of what a "human" is.

Blacks were once seen as somehow "less-than-human." People
without all the "right" proportions, too. The Elephant Man
could be shown off for ridicule. Even left-handed people
were once viewed with suspicion. They offered "left-handed
compliments" and were "sinister," somehow. Women, too, were
viewed as somehow "less-than-human." Now it is the unborn child,
called a "parasitic lump of tissue," somehow "less-than-human."

There has been a more and more INCLUSIVE definition of humanity
which has been developing. People are being viewed less and less
with superstition. It is none other than Gospel Light being
brought to the world.
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Of course, there are those who feel strongly about saving the
whales, about justice for baby seals, and for saving the marbled
pigeon from man's insatiable greed. They cheer on the brave,
committed environmentalists who courageously defend the lives
of these innocents of nature. At the same time, they turn a
blind eye to abortion. And they call themselves "humanists!"
Go figure!

David
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Date: Sat, 05 Oct 1996 
From: NannuATNOSPAMsanctum.com
Subject: Re: Sexual etc.

Hey Paco,

Well said, and you are correct, Natha was talking in terms of an advanced 
methodology.

At the same time I think it important that this info come out, for those 
who want to take it further and don't know how, or where to look.

Thanks for the insight,
-- 

    \|\|\|\|\|\|      CHILDREN of the UNIVERSE,  ...Nannu     |\|\|\|\|\|\

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Date: Sat, 05 Oct 1996 
From: NannuATNOSPAMsanctum.com
Subject: Re: Definition of Humanity

traveler wrote:

> It is natural to ejaculate. The birds do it, the bees do it. What makes
> people think we are above nature and not part of it?
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and Dave replied:

>>And, of course, dogs lick their butts. Does that make it okay for people
>>to do likewise?

and now I have to add my two cents:

This is not a political forum.  It is a list about the trials, tribulations and
goals of Kundalini.  ...and yes Dave, it^s ok for people to lick their butt... 
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-- 

     \|\|\|\|\|\|      CHILDREN of the UNIVERSE,  ...Nannu     |\|\|\|\|\|\



Date: Sun, 6 Oct 1996 
From: Nicholas 
Subject: Introduction

Greets!


My name's Nicholas and I'm 23 years old.

I guess I should say straight away that I am not an experiencer and so
don't have any colorful experiences to share.

I first heard of kundalini last year when I was reading the book HEADING
TOWARDS OMEGA by Kenneth Ring.  The book is really about near death
experiences but discussed kundalini since the effects of a K awakening
are similar to NDEs.  This greatly interested me because I was seeking
(non-addictive and non-fatal :) ways to expand consciousness.  I
researched the area as best I could and tried various ways to stir the
serpent (mantra, focus, visualization, pranayama, hatha yoga, etc.).
After a while I drifted from my practice of it though I was still
interested in it.

Since then I have experimented with other forms of energywork- Chi Kung,
Taoist Esoteric Yoga (specifically the stuff by Mantak Chia), and
currently the "Light Body." (not a weight loss program! :)
I am very interested in learning more about the various energy systems
(whether meridians, chakras or others) and their relationship to healing
and the elevation of consciousness.
Kundalini is still of interest to me and is something I may have to deal
with in the future as I still work (indirectly) with chakras.


My main interests these days are:
Spiritual Growth (with the ultimate goal of Self/God Realization)
The Spiritual, Metaphysical, and Esoteric subjects
The nature of "Life, the Universe, and Everything" (not 42)
Channeling
Healing
Wisdom
Energy
Surviving my final year of university

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Outside of energywork I have researched (for personal interest):
Self Hypnosis
Lucid Dreaming
Martial Arts (the way I was introduced to "Chi Kung")


Through the list I hope for interesting discussion, discover more about K,
to be of some help and service (and maybe a bit of entertainment), and of
course make some friends :)
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Namaste

Nick



Date: Sat, 5 Oct 1996 
From: mabATNOSPAMrio.com (Margaret A. Blaine)
Subject: k problems

Dear Dan,
     I believe it is important to involve oneself with a tradition which has
a long history such as Kundalini Yoga.  I was having troubles with my k and
after one class the whole thing settled down.  When there is a Master
involved things become much easier and there is no danger.
                                  Margaret


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Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 
From: Jan Watson 
Subject: oops

Hi Dan

I've lost most of my files (and so your email address) as a result of the 
helpfulness of one of my little ones.  I hope this provides an answer to 
your last message.  Help.
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jan



Date: Sun, 06 Oct 1996 
From: Dan Gahlinger 
Subject: Re: k problems

At 10:34 PM 10/5/96 -0700, you wrote:
>Dear Dan,
>     I believe it is important to involve oneself with a tradition which has
>a long history such as Kundalini Yoga.  I was having troubles with my k and
>after one class the whole thing settled down.  When there is a Master
>involved things become much easier and there is no danger.

without a little danger, itd get REAL boring [grin] but actually, there are
no masters in this area. none at all. the closest thing we have to that is
a yogic arobics gym, and those are kinda a joke. This city is kinda
pathetic for such things. True KRN is located here, supposedly the ZEN
coordinator for the region, and all that. Kundalini "experts" (ahem). but I
will say perhaps these peoples knowledge of kundalini is acceptable for
such a title, although personally I think not. but they dont understand all
the other things that go on, or happen, or what people go through.

so I'd have to say that I'd have to meet one of these "masters" to truly
see if they measure up as it were. so far I'm not impressed.
Dan.
There are always possibilities...