kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 145 

Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 
From: WorcaATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: Death Of Ego

Dan,

>never thought of it that was. as for the "annoying little children" they
>ALREADY seem that way, for at least a week now... 

Only ego thinks the children are annoying.  When the ego is transformed (I
prefer that term rather than death, because nothing EVER dies, the energy or
consciousness just changes to a higher vibration), the children will be just
children, not annoying children.

>my ego wont be around. i still want to know if this involved a "nervous
>breakdown" or not.
->
>Has ANYONE here ACTUALLY had their ego die yet? 

I am in the throes of this now, also, Dan.  I've been channeled the
information through two other people that my rebirth date is Sept. 20.  I
don't think that a nervous breakdown is necessary if you let the process
happen, & FEEL moment to moment.  Let the emotion bubble up & release, let it
flow through.

Last night, I felt like I was falling apart.  I saw myself in my mind's eye
as actually splitting apart.  So I just layed there in bed & trembled in fear
and hugged my teddy bear!  I feel fine this morning.  I've found myself going
through a lot of fear within the past week and a half.  It feels tumultuous
(big time!) at the time, but after letting it flow through & loving myself in
the process, I come back to feeling "normal" again.

Almost "egoless" and getting ready for the next round!  Barb(-;



-
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 
From: HowardCushATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: Dan and His Ego

When I began the awakening process, or should I say when IT began ME, I was
very anxious about what would happen to me.  Would "I" die?  Would everything
I believe in change?  Then, I had a small epiphany.  The ego will not go
away, as long as I am alive.  It is impossible.  The ego is the aspect of
human life that allows for survival and functioning.  It is not good or bad,
it just is.  Without an ego, the very functions of life -- eating, pooping,
emailing -- would be impossible.

Once I had this realization, I relaxed a lot.  I'm relating this personal
experience because in my own opionion, Dan's questions about the death of the
ego don't quite compute.  In fact, his posts themselves, especially about
annoyance with others, in which he says he feels less ego, to me seem FILLED
with ego.  This is an observation, not a judgment.  The very fact of
annoyance is an ego-based concept.  Without an ego, who or what would be
annoyed?  I notice, in addition, that Dan has a very unique and personal
style of communicating, filled with ""s and jokes and a kind of ironic
self-mockery.  Even as he comes closer to this sense of an ending, the posts
seem ever-more filled with that Dan-ness.

I notice, in myself, this constant need to interpret, and to wring meaning,
from every event, both little and transformational.  I guess this is human.
 As I go through my own experience with Kundalini, I keep dedicating myself
to "Beginner's Mind," or the "Don't Know" place.  When I get out of my own
way like that, stuff moves quickly.  The paradox is that I always return to
the ego, no matter how "out there" or expansive the experiences.  However, I
come back with a softer hold on things and a greater acceptance of
everything, ESPECIALLY the ego.

Richard Moss, in "The Black Butterfly," says that the fullest and most
glorious spiritual experiences are the ones that can be incarnated in this
body, in this world, in this plane, in this moment.  I accept that as my
ultimate challenge.  Moss values the experience of being around such an
integrated being as far more valuable than, say, a channeler who has to leave
his/her own body and being in order to receive non-physical information.  He
believes something like "A Course in Miracles," which was channelled, is in
many ways less relevant to being a human being in the present moment than
something which can be expressed locally and physically.  This has great
resonance for me.

So, as a counterpoint to Dan, as he approaches the "death of the ego,"  I've
attmepted to share my own approach.  My own prayer, for my own being, is to
open and soften and expand the breadth and depth of my ego, to bring more of
the Self into the self.  In this process, nothing dies.  In fact, it is my
hope that greater awareness is constantly being born.  I've seen how, in full
contemplation of my death, this awareness seems to blossom.  For that I am
grateful, and I know that when my ego dies, and my body dies with it, a new
chapter of that awareness will be born once more.



Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 
From: John Marynowicz 
Subject: Re: Dan and His Ego

At 10:40 AM 9/14/96 -0400, you wrote:
>When I began the awakening process, or should I say when IT began ME, I was
>very anxious about what would happen to me.  Would "I" die?  Would everything
>I believe in change?  Then, I had a small epiphany.  The ego will not go
>away, as long as I am alive.  It is impossible.  The ego is the aspect of
>human life that allows for survival and functioning.  It is not good or bad,
>it just is.  Without an ego, the very functions of life -- eating, pooping,
>emailing -- would be impossible.
>

I've always felt that there are an infinate number of degrees of "ego-ness".
I think that the more "child-like" a person is, the less "ego" oriented that
person is. I know I'm very "ego" oriented but try every day to become ever
more aware of it.

There are people in the world who, IMHO have very little "ego".  People such
as Mother Teresa or the Dalai Lama.  Mother Teresa is completely selfless in
her service to humanity.  The Dalai Lama (from the couple of times I've seen
him interviewed on TV) seems to have an almost completely child-like
personality and yet is incredibly wise.

Being judgmental is also an aspect of ego.  I guess if "non-ego" could be
summed up as a set of traits they would include things such as:

1) Child Like outlook
2) Non-Judgementalism
3) Selfless Service to Humanity
4) Humility

I'm sure there are others.  Those are just the ones I can think of from the
top of my head.  Can anyone think of others?  Perhaps the emergence of these
kinds of qualities are what is meant by "the death of ego".


Light and Love
John Marynowicz



Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 
From: SYL228ATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re death of ego

Dan:

As far as I can see there is nothing to fear.  We simply set our
personalities aside and step into our larger selves.  The collective higher
self which is composed of our spirit/soul/and our past lives.  Each life is a
personality which adds to the richness of that higher self.

So when it happens for you, you will simply know your self as a richer/fuller
entity.  Nothing is lost and nothing ever really dies.  Energy, which we are
only changes form.

Also this is a gradual process, and probably the fear is why you are trying
to hang on to your old self.

We are constantly reinventing ourselves anyway if we are to grow.

It was interesting that Barb mentioned Sept 20.  That date is almost into
Libra the balance.. It is also the time when we have harvest.  So thinking of
this time as being when you harvest all the fruits of your work on your self
might be a good way to look at the process.

As far as those who annoy you are concerned.  We all need to develop
tolerance, patience and humility.  If they still have an ego, so what, they
haveaccepted us for long enough.  Don't know about everyone else, but I have
been quite strange at times during this process.  Others have tolerated me,
the least I can do is tolerate them,  so I try even when it is difficult.  I
find a sense of humor and the ability to laugh at myself has been
indispensable too.
-
Love Jule



Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 
From: Dan Gahlinger 
Subject: Re: Re death of ego

At 02:15 PM 9/14/96 -0400, you wrote:
>Dan:
>
>As far as I can see there is nothing to fear.  We simply set our
>personalities aside and step into our larger selves.  The collective higher
>self which is composed of our spirit/soul/and our past lives.  Each life is a
>personality which adds to the richness of that higher self.

oh, is that all...  sorry those words came across so easily, its like
saying "oh, its nothing, the world will just explode next tuesday", in such
a matter of fact way, as it doesnt seem to have any emotional attachment to
it, and "nothing to worry about". 

>So when it happens for you, you will simply know your self as a richer/fuller
>entity.  Nothing is lost and nothing ever really dies.  Energy, which we are
>only changes form.

this is certainly true. know myself? well, hope so, i've "lost" who i was a
long time ago. I no longer know who "Dan" is, i mean personality wise. i
know who I am, in the core, soul, etc. but not "who". if that makes any
sense. if not, just nod and smile knowingly. :)
-
>Also this is a gradual process, and probably the fear is why you are trying
>to hang on to your old self.

gradual?? you call one month gradual?? hmmm maybe my perspective isnt good
in this matter than. maybe it is no big deal. i just wish if it WAS going to
do it, just get it overwith already. :)

>We are constantly reinventing ourselves anyway if we are to grow.

how can we reinvent what we dont understand? sorry, its an OLD question
thats been hanging about me for years, ever since I "lost" knowing who I
was, i wondered how i'm reworking myself without a beginning point of
reference. the old adage, you cant get to where you are going without
knowing where you are now. ie: if you're lost in a city, you cant exactly
find the 401 easily. but these old ideals probably no longer apply, or dont
apply to spiritual rebirth, which is what we're really talking about.
spiritual emergence.

>It was interesting that Barb mentioned Sept 20.  That date is almost into
>Libra the balance.. It is also the time when we have harvest.  So thinking of
>this time as being when you harvest all the fruits of your work on your self
>might be a good way to look at the process.

this sounds like my time as well. actually mine will be just before or just
after the 27th. perhaps sooner (I hope). ugh...

>As far as those who annoy you are concerned.  We all need to develop
>tolerance, patience and humility.  If they still have an ego, so what, they
>haveaccepted us for long enough.  Don't know about everyone else, but I have
>been quite strange at times during this process.  Others have tolerated me,
>the least I can do is tolerate them,  so I try even when it is difficult.  I
>find a sense of humor and the ability to laugh at myself has been
>indispensable too.

at times? another understatement, for me anyhow. yes, tolerance is good.
seems my sense of humor is the only thing that keeps me sane any more. its
my outlet (i think those reading this list have figured that out by now). 
Dan.
there are always possibilities...
-


Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 
From: "Rondi McBoyer" 
Subject: Dand and his Ego

Howard,
Thank you so much for sharing your thoughts on this, I for one tend to see
things about the ego about the same way you do... can't imagine being
without it,How would we function?
One question,what do you mean by your Don't know place, or Beginners Mind? 
I'm always thinking with a Beginners mind, and Don't seem to know much...
maybe I'm further along than I think?
Rondi



Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 
From: NannuATNOSPAMsanctum.com
Subject: EGO

> Has ANYONE here ACTUALLY had their ego die yet? 


The only thing that changes is HOW you perceive the outer world.

     The sole purpose of Kundalini is to unite the male and female
aspects of our being. The culmination of this 'union', which is as much
physical as it is mental, results in the birth of a new being, which is now
correctly balanced, whole and complete, and sees the world from a
new perspective. Thus one becomes 'enlightened' as to one's true
nature. 'Awakened', if you will to the bigger picture.

     And the final outcome of this union? Balance, oneness with yourself 
and all of
creation, expanded awareness, (Life without an active Kundalini can be
likened to a camera focused on a rose, with the rose taking up the entire 
lens
area. Life with an active kundalini is like pulling back with the camera, 
so that you
see not only the rose, but the entire garden as well).  And what a garden 
it is!
And finally the joy and peace of wholeness, completeness, and totally
unrestricted love.



Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 
From: SnowbirdVATNOSPAMgnn.com
Subject: Re: Pessimism, no hope, perhaps dying 

Whoah!!!


There is quite a lot of agressivity in this post! Seems to me you're trying 
hard to deny there can be a God. I think that's why you feel attacked when 
someone ask you to consider the possibility.  How can you KNOW there is no 
God? Please, this is not a flame, I really would like to know how you know.

Love to all.

By someone who just went through a low but who's keeping her head above water 
right now...


>At 02:22 PM 9/10/96 PDT, you wrote:
>>>oh, and by the way, not to be harsh or anything, but I am an atheist you
> know.
>>
>>Atheist????  If there are "always possibilities" Dan, then please
> consider for
>>a moment the possibility that there is a God, a power greater than
> yourself.
>>Denial of this fact can only be the result of *ego*.
>
>completely wrong. but thats besides the point. lets not flame. let me put
> it
>this way:
>
>an atheist is a person who KNOWS there is no such thing as "God", however,
>we know DAMN well, there are higher POWERS (please note the PLURAL!). yes,
>this is my universe.  this is not ego.
>
>It is EGO to try to force your beliefs on others. which I certainly dont
> do.
>
>>Websters definition of an atheist...
>>
>>"an ATHEIST is one who denies the existence of God and rejects all
> religious
>>faith and practice"
>
>hmmm interesting. i think their definition is MISLEADING. perhaps not
>incorrect, but misleading. you got the wrong idea.
>
>>I *know* in the past you *have* considered the possibility that there is a
>>higher power.  An atheist doesn't consult with healers and visionaries
> like
>>Ted Silverhand, something you have stated publicly before as doing, as
> this
>>would be admitting that there are perhaps powers greater than your own.
>
>that has nothing to do with "God". believing in the spiritual, healers,
>visionaries, the supernatural, and the wonders of the universe, and higher
>powers, is all part of my beliefs. as for religious, definitely not, no
> way,
>no how. I dont buy it. sorry.
>
>>Consider the possibility that the Universe is putting *extreme* pressure
> on
>>you right now to get you to admit what you already know in your heart.
>>The Universe will force you to believe, or it will kill you.
>
>what, higher powers? sure thing! Heck, my "Mom" is "Fate"! how much more
>belief of a higher power can a guy have?
>
>>Dan, this is not a flame, I truly care what happens to you.  You have a
>>tiger by the tail right now and it's about to turn around and eat you. 
> You
>>had the option (and perhaps still do) to slow the rise of the 'k'--this is
>>very well documented in the literature.
>
>tygger wouldn't hurt anybody. (that's a joke). slow rise the 'k'?
>hahahahahaha (rofl), sorry, but my k has risen all the way, i'm going
>through nightly transformations and integrations, etc. and, there aint no
>way in heck i'm gonna slow down. people tell me to ground myself, but i
> look
>at what grounding means (closing the chakras, etc). that would give me an
>instant heart-attack (physical). I know, its what my heart and soul tell
> me.
>I'm accelerating, sure i could slow down, but i dont have time.
>
>>There's an old army saying, "there are no atheists in the foxholes". 
> Well,
>>the Universe just dropped a 1000lb bomb on you to get you to admit it to
>>yourself.
>
>actually thats wrong too. the saying is "theres no such thing as friendly
>fire", grin. who me? well i have no problem with higher powers. i DO have a
>problem with the "god complex" as I call it, and I have a problem with the
>heaven/utopia complex as well. but i'm a scientific kinda guy.
>
>how does spiritual and such fit in, and how do i believe in it, if god is
>nonexistant? i dont NEED a god. i have NO use for such a figure. i do not
>NEED that faith or hope. at times i see it as almost a crutch, like alcohol
>(sorry, not a flame). but to me, i've had "the council" (not my guides)
>around my whole life, theres my spiritual mother "fate", and the rest of
> the
>council. and i've found my guides a year ago almost. so is there a conflict
>here? i dont think so.
>the universe was not created by ONE being, it was created by a few. my
>universe was created by 5 or 6, actually. and i only know one of them,
> mom. :)
>
>these are my beliefs, and i do not force them down peoples throats, for
> that
>would truly be ego. no, i will not "pick on" someone who believes in god,
> or
>one who thinks it is necessary or required, and i will not think less of
>them or find fault, or think it is incorrect or bad. that is their beliefs,
>and their right. i see no ego loaded into my perspective. and its something
>i've been careful to make sure of.
>
>>Please take care, Dan.  I wish you the best...  -Tim
>
>thanks. please try not to take all this too harshly, its not meant as a
>flame. and i hope you can realize that trying to change someones viewpoint
>is loaded with ego, regardless of which is correct or incorrect, in fact,
>those labels in themselves are ego, if you think about it.
>Dan.
>there are always possibilities...
>
SnowbirdVATNOSPAMgnn.com



Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 
From: Dan Gahlinger 
Subject: Re: EGO
-
At 04:05 PM 9/14/96 +0000, you wrote:
>> Has ANYONE here ACTUALLY had their ego die yet? 
>
>The only thing that changes is HOW you perceive the outer world.

that's already changed. a long time ago.

>     The sole purpose of Kundalini is to unite the male and female
>aspects of our being. The culmination of this 'union', which is as much
>physical as it is mental, results in the birth of a new being, which is now
>correctly balanced, whole and complete, and sees the world from a
>new perspective. Thus one becomes 'enlightened' as to one's true
>nature. 'Awakened', if you will to the bigger picture.
>
>     And the final outcome of this union? Balance, oneness with yourself 
>and all of
>creation, expanded awareness, (Life without an active Kundalini can be
>likened to a camera focused on a rose, with the rose taking up the entire 
>lens
>area. Life with an active kundalini is like pulling back with the camera, 
>so that you
>see not only the rose, but the entire garden as well).  And what a garden 
>it is!
>And finally the joy and peace of wholeness, completeness, and totally
>unrestricted love.

Pardon my possible ignorance, but what does all this have to do with my
question? you talk about kundalini and balance, etc etc etc at length, but
this seems to have little or nothing to do with what I asked. I'm confused.
have you had your ego die, is this what you're trying to say? i have no idea.
Dan.
there are always possibilities...



Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 
From: Dan Gahlinger 
Subject: Re: Dan and His Ego

At 10:40 AM 9/14/96 -0400, you wrote:
>When I began the awakening process, or should I say when IT began ME, I was
>very anxious about what would happen to me.  Would "I" die?  Would everything
>I believe in change?  Then, I had a small epiphany.  The ego will not go
>away, as long as I am alive.  It is impossible.  The ego is the aspect of
>human life that allows for survival and functioning.  It is not good or bad,
>it just is.  Without an ego, the very functions of life -- eating, pooping,
>emailing -- would be impossible.

i dont agree. i dont see the ego having anything to do with what you
mention. actually, i cant think of a single practical purpose (rational) for
the ego at all! I have no idea what the phrase "healthy ego" is supposed to
mean. to me its an oxymoron. about the only thing i can think of that might
be positive is if ego had something to do with instinct, protective mode,
self preservation. but thats not ego either.

maybe we should start by defining precisely just what the ego is, if thats
possible, what it really does. it certainly has no responsibility for bodily
functions...

>Once I had this realization, I relaxed a lot.  I'm relating this personal
>experience because in my own opionion, Dan's questions about the death of the
>ego don't quite compute.  In fact, his posts themselves, especially about
>annoyance with others, in which he says he feels less ego, to me seem FILLED
>with ego.  This is an observation, not a judgment.  The very fact of
>annoyance is an ego-based concept.  Without an ego, who or what would be
>annoyed?  I notice, in addition, that Dan has a very unique and personal
>style of communicating, filled with ""s and jokes and a kind of ironic
>self-mockery.  Even as he comes closer to this sense of an ending, the posts
>seem ever-more filled with that Dan-ness.
-
yep thats the ego kicking and screaming while i drag it to the blender to
mush it all to bits.  Would not someone with a strong ego annoy
someone without an ego? you see a "Friend" of mine has a very competitive
personality, not that theres anything wrong with it, its just so chock-full
of ego, i want to beat him to a pulp at times, he's that annoying.

as for the grins and such, i wonder if you've realized this is my way of
releasing the tension, and also my inner self hiding behind things and
hoping no one will notice, in that case its also a concious hope that
someone will notice and make a statement which brings me forward, something
i could not admit to myself because of the weight of such a thing, but its
also a way these things can be released lightly so it doesnt overwhelm me.
is that enought psychology about this? :)

the "ironic self-mockery" is more the truth that you might realize (read the
above paragraph). and the posts filled with dan-ness. hey i like that
phrase. its neat. and very true. i spread and open myself to others, giving
of energy selflessly. i've got lots of it... somehow...

>So, as a counterpoint to Dan, as he approaches the "death of the ego,"  I've
>attmepted to share my own approach.  My own prayer, for my own being, is to
>open and soften and expand the breadth and depth of my ego, to bring more of
>the Self into the self.  In this process, nothing dies.  In fact, it is my
>hope that greater awareness is constantly being born.  I've seen how, in full
>contemplation of my death, this awareness seems to blossom.  For that I am
>grateful, and I know that when my ego dies, and my body dies with it, a new
>chapter of that awareness will be born once more.

geez i hope not. bodily death isnt due for three years yet. but then there
is rebirth too. as for the rest of what you say here, i cant seem to figure
out how it is a "counterpoint" to my comments. or perhaps you are speaking
of the expanding ego, and such. i always thought that death feeling was
bodily related too. i no longer think that way, now that time grows close.
Dan.
there are always possibilities...



Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 
From: Dan Gahlinger 
Subject: Re: Death Of Ego

>At 09:29 AM 9/14/96 -0400, you wrote:
>>Dan,
>>Only ego thinks the children are annoying.  When the ego is transformed (I
>>prefer that term rather than death, because nothing EVER dies, the energy or
>>consciousness just changes to a higher vibration), the children will be just
>>children, not annoying children.
>
>wrong. children are annoying. i cant stand the brats. hey, i was a summer
camp counsellor for the ymca and in charge of 30 of the little demons. i
quit after the first month, it was either that or strangle them all (ala
Homer Simpson routine). so I left for the safety of the children. somewhere
out there, 30 parents thank me. :)
>
>>>my ego wont be around. i still want to know if this involved a "nervous
>>>breakdown" or not.
>>>
>>>Has ANYONE here ACTUALLY had their ego die yet? 
>>
>>I am in the throes of this now, also, Dan.  I've been channeled the
>>information through two other people that my rebirth date is Sept. 20.  I
>>don't think that a nervous breakdown is necessary if you let the process
>>happen, & FEEL moment to moment.  Let the emotion bubble up & release, let it
>>flow through.
>
>really? hmmm mines supposed to be somewhere around the 27th, but i hope its
sooner. that way i can have that happen, and on the 27th see Dr. Kason, who
can clean up the mess. 
->
>>Last night, I felt like I was falling apart.  I saw myself in my mind's eye
>>as actually splitting apart.  So I just layed there in bed & trembled in fear
>>and hugged my teddy bear!  I feel fine this morning.  I've found myself going
>>through a lot of fear within the past week and a half.  It feels tumultuous
>>(big time!) at the time, but after letting it flow through & loving myself in
>>the process, I come back to feeling "normal" again.
>
>that sounds like a nervous breakdown to me. oh well, we'll see i guess. sigh...
>
>>Almost "egoless" and getting ready for the next round!  Barb(-;
>
>so are you like me, impatient, and just want it overwith, or is it moving
too fast for you?
>
Dan.
there are always possibilities...



-
Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 
From: melody.gaviganATNOSPAMnvonline.com (Melody Gavigan)
Subject: Re: Ego Challenges

John,

JW>I've always felt that there are an infinate number of degrees of "ego-ness".
  >I think that the more "child-like" a person is, the less "ego" oriented that
  >person is. I know I'm very "ego" oriented but try every day to become ever
-  >more aware of it.

     I have the opposite challenge. I have been told by people 
(including clinicians and even over e-mail) that I am "child-like." 
Embracing the female side of myself (we all have male & female aspects 
we must integrate and embrace) comes very easy to me. Receptivity and 
surrender comes very easy to me (both female aspects). 
     I have a problem in that I need to learn how to *fortify* my ego 
and my will, and so I hope that if anyone has any suggestions here for 
that, they will post it! I know that some think that the goal is to 
completely get rid of the ego - that might be helpful for a person who 
is ego-driven, but unfortunately that wouldn't help me, as I am 
vulnerable to getting manipulated because of a deficiency in awareness 
- or naiveness - or too much simplicity - or whatever. 

JW>1) Child Like outlook
  >2) Non-Judgementalism
  >3) Selfless Service to Humanity
  >4) Humility

JW>I'm sure there are others.  Those are just the ones I can think of from the
  >top of my head.  Can anyone think of others?  

     I would think that the above characteristics would just naturally 
come to someone as they open up the higher chakras. I would add to 
your list: (my favorite one) Unconditional Love. 
     As a person works up through the chakras, a personality change can 
take hold that makes you earthy, grounded, more uncomplicated (or 
child-like), and gives you personal magnetism. The challenge is not to 
use the personal magnetism in the service of the ego, but to use it in 
the service of transcendence. As people are attracted to the 
overflowing spirit within you, they are *drawn* into your sphere for a 
purpose - so that you may =assist their evolution= by sending energy in 
the form of unconditional Love into their spirit.

Melody

 * 1st 2.00 #7384 * At the quantum level, each brain layer has its frequency.


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Date: Sat, 14 Sep 1996 
From: melody.gaviganATNOSPAMnvonline.com (Melody Gavigan)
Subject: Re: Ego Challenges

DN>this sounds like my time as well. actually mine will be just before or just
  >after the 27th. perhaps sooner (I hope). ugh...

Dan,
     I am, like others here, trying to understand why you think this is 
a sudden event.  Can you describe more what is going on with you...what 
makes you think that? 
     I have been through "nervous breakdowns" that turned out to be 
spiritual emergencies in reality. But even these seemingly climactic 
events were actually gradual changes, although that was hard to see at 
the time. Spiritual emergencies, the feeling of loss of Self, can 
manifest as symptoms of mental illness and if you don't get the right 
help, they can really screw up your head.
     What's this about the 27th? Please explain.

Melody

 * 1st 2.00 #7384 * It is by transpersonal intuition that we can evolve.