Date: Fri, 16 Aug kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 96 : Issue 96 1 From: ElmovolATNOSPAMaol.com Subject: Thanks thanks and more thanks Dear Ones, A belated thank you from the deepest recesses of my soul to all those who answered my post on the missing time episode (I was watching Olympics relay race, my sister-in-law and I saw only three women finish, the rest of the TV-watching world saw four.) That seemed to me to be the beginning of several experiences that have occured since then. I feel as if I have been in crash-and-burn mode and it's been very difficult to even string three sentences together until here lately. One episode is that I answered the doorbell no one else in the house heard it. When my sister-inlaw apologized to the man for not answering the doorbell sooner, he said he hadn't even rang it yet!! I've been in the house when supposedly the phone has rung four times, there is a message on the answering machine and neither I nor my sister-in-law heard the phone ring. The tingling episodes have started back up again for about 36 hrs. then ceased as quickly as they started. AND... to top it off, a freelance job I was counting on fell thru so Im out of a job and my funds run out next month!!! I should add to that that I've been on a self-imposed sabbatical for two years due to major burnout from working in the court system as a court reporter for over 20 years. I can always go back to that to pay my bills, but really dread getting back into that energy. Have read with great interests the posts on the *warrior* analogy and also the posts on the ego. They seem to have great relevance to what my experience has been here lately. My concepts of reality are doing a complete 180 again and now it seems I can't even count on my senses to give me basic feedback signals on what is real and what is not. All this started hitting the fan when I had what I call a mini-K in May. My first K was like a large circular tingling current wrapping all the way up the spine but it seemed to stop at the neck. This one, the energy just shot straight up in a narrow band of electrical energy from the base of my spine and this time it went all the way out of the crown chakra. Shortly, after it happened, I told the man of my dreams (I thought) I wanted to end the relationship, came here to Tennessee for the summer, and have been here ever since. The support you all have given me thru the depression stage was immense and I am deeply forever grateful. That has seemed to backed off some this week. I've been hiking some in the Smokies this week loving the Divine Mother as I know her in these mountains and that has seemed to ground me some and kept out of my head. Like I say, you all have been great and many thanks again. Christine 2 Date: Fri, 16 Aug From: hbarrettATNOSPAMix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.) Subject: re: bouncing off the walls Michelle -- I know EXACTLY what you are talking about, feel wonderful for you and with you, and feel amazed over and over again that when people feel this kind of joy, they feel it in so much the SAME WAY, however they get there. No wonder we feel it as coming home. Holly 3 Date: Sat, 17 Aug From: stampmanATNOSPAMix.netcom.com (Daniel Rusch-Fischer ) Subject: Spontaneous Mudra - Photo Hi (k)ites, A while back, I started a thread about a mudra that I had done spontaneously with the effect of relief of stress - it started originally as clenched fists and as I learned to deal with stress, gradually changed to an attitude of the hands where the 1st and 4th fingers are loosely extended (like two horns), the 3rd finger is curled inward with the tip resting in the center of the palm (centering symbolism?) and the thumb and second finger describe a circle by lightly touching at the tips. A number of speculations devolved in the thread and nothing came of it with certainty. (I like the concept of conversations being thought of as 'threads' - does that tickle anyone else's special place in the brain that makes them instinctively make that little 'satori' grin?) (I know, that it is not probably everyone's PERFECT analogy and will be CRITICized and DOZENS of BETTER-FORMED more ACCURATE, more CORRECT, infinitely RIGHTer analogies will be EXPOUNDED, EXPLAINED, EXPRESSED, and EXPUNGED (by me), but I LIKE a little piece of this one;-) But, I digress, regress, progress. Follow me, I AM digressing to congression, trust me. I, while meditating recently, switched from my usual TM mantra to the old workhorse that everyone hears OM- and that I had never used - TM people told us that the mantra that they gave us for $100 was SCADS better than that one. Anyway, it was, for me, sonorous, thunderous, full of INTENSE vibrations, mind-engulfing, consciousness-extinguishing and expanding simultaneously, I had NEVER gotten that from my TM mantra and I retried it with no better results. I REALLY liked the OM results - is this just due to my expectation that OM would be better or am I perceiving it differently due to the k-experience? This got me wondering about mantras and especially the OM-guy. Western dictionaries suck for the purpose of getting definitions of this guru-stuff, but they lead one on some interesting courses/careers (check the etymologies of both for a grin ;-). What I did find is that AUM and OM where listed as synonyms - what the hey?! To the library to get dowsed in those AWFUL books that ex-P-l-AIN mysticism. In the index of "Tibetan Buddhism" by L. Austine Waddell under the head OM, a number of pages were listed. I checked each in order and one, page 148, in particular. As I thumbed to the page, my eyes fell briefly on page 146. I NEVER did get to 148. A crop of the photograph on 146 is attached - is this what is called synchronicity? The "Lama of the Established Church" is doing EXACTLY the mudra/hand-position/mystic-attitude that I described. I never thought about the one-hand-over/one-hand-under position until I saw this photograph - do YOU SEE what I SEE? Placing ones hands in this position mimics the yin-yang symbol including the circles within each of the teardrop shapes. Is this coincidental - I thought the yin-yang thing was Taoist/Chinese/Korean not Tibetan Buddhist? The frustrating thing is that the caption of the photograph says that the two lamas pictured are doing mudras, but the text does not explain them. A THOROUGH search of the WHOLE book gives a bunch of other mudras, complete explanations of the use/symbolism/meaning of them, but does NOT mention the one in the photograph. Maybe I am just too impatient, will just have to wait for ANOTHER synchronologue to occur for the definition/meaning to appear S P O N T A N E O U S L Y ;-) In the meantime, speculations are welcome. DAN the MUDRAMAN 4 Date: Sat, 17 Aug From: Wendy Subject: Spontaneous Picture Files Hi Dan, I have a special request as the owner of a very small hard drive and no way to refuse graphics files along with any email received. Is there another way you could possibly share your pictures with people on the list without sending them to everyone automatically here? Perhaps offering to send them directly to anyone with a particular interest? My storage space is at a premium and I'm constantly having to weed the email alone to keep my system running in top form. I frequently have to reject emails that have picture files attached and then have to notify my service provider to delete them from my mailbox manually or they'll just keep 'trying' to get through. An extra work load for some poor soul who probably would rather be playing Solitaire.Thanks for your consideration. Sincerely, Wendy Leap and the net will appear. http://www.tiac.net/users/wenders ___________________ Don't take advice, take a chance, roll the dice, learn to dance. - David Wilcox ___________________ 5 Date: Sat, 17 Aug From: SYL228ATNOSPAMaol.com Subject: Re the ego Royale: Thanks for the analogy about getting rid of the ego being like getting rid of the clouds so you can see the sun. I;d never heard that before . When I look inside myself I often see a blue sky and a sun, as part of the picture except when I am upset at someone. then i see only clouds! This is exactly the picture, my ego gets in the way when I allow emotions to cloud things. Patti: I experience the void as being where I am conscious, and can be whoever or whatever i want to be. I am all of it. There is only me totally conscious of all there is. I can be or not be. It is a place of pure intent. The world I live in is simply the result of that intent. I'm not explaining this too well, I know, because truthfully it is beyond words. But I'd love some input from others on this. Love Jule 6 Date: Sat, 17 Aug From: Arlene Benjamin Subject: Cindarella Hi Jule, What you wrote reminds me of the Cindarella story. In my own little corner(void), in my own little room(body/mind/spirit) I can be whatever I want to be. I think the "clouds" hold infinite possibilites:ie. Lessons for growth, and increased awareness. I see them as a necessary part of our existence. Perhaps when learn learn to embrace them as such, we will open more doors. I also think we can learn to see our egos in a similar light. So often we see it as a stumbling block... It is there for a valid reason. In Love and Light, Namaste'...Arlene Trust is more than a five letter word* Faith is Believing without Seeing* 7 Date: Sat, 17 Aug From: Wendy Subject: Re the ego ever touched a cloud? Leap and the net will appear. http://www.tiac.net/users/wenders ___________________ Don't take advice, take a chance, roll the dice, learn to dance. - David Wilcox ___________________ 8 Date: Sat, 17 Aug From: V487ATNOSPAMaol.com Subject: The ego & cirrus, cumulus, nimbus, stratus. Hi: Wendy >ever touched a cloud?< Yes, of course! Like in: cirrus, cumulus nimbus & stratus. On many levels and I know you have also or your name would not be "Windy" Like in: grandiloquent loquacious & succinct >Leap into the unknown and the net will appear. As always, Von 9 Date: Sat, 17 Aug From: V487ATNOSPAMaol.com Subject: Re: Spontaneous Picture Files Hi: Wendy Please have Dan send me $75.50 plus tax and I will give him a special mantra. It's better and cost less. Just send me a check and I will put the secret mantra for only him into into the ether. For real! :) >>TM people told us that the mantra that they gave us for $100 was SCADS better than that one<< Von 10 Date: Sat, 17 Aug From: Royale Jills Subject: Re: bouncing off the walls Michelle, You did you know that you remind me of Gloria so much that Ive often wondered if you are the same people? Royale 11 Date: Sat, 17 Aug From: Wendy Subject: Re: Spontaneous Picture Files I believe Dan is reachable by direct er 'contact' Von? > >Hi: Wendy > >Please have Dan send me $75.50 plus tax and I will >give him a special mantra. It's better and cost less. >Just send me a check and I will put the secret mantra for >only him into into the ether. For real! :) > > >>>TM people told us that the mantra that they gave us >for $100 was SCADS better than that one > >Von > > Leap and the net will appear. http://www.tiac.net/users/wenders ___________________ Don't take advice, take a chance, roll the dice, learn to dance. - David Wilcox ___________________ 12 Date: Sat, 17 Aug From: Wendy Subject: The ego & cirrus, cumulus, nimbus, stratus. fluffy i'd only add fluffy Von Wend > > Hi: Wendy > > >ever touched a cloud?< > >Yes, of course! Like in: > cirrus, > cumulus > nimbus > & stratus. > >On many levels and I know you have also or your name would not be "Windy" > >Like in: > grandiloquent > loquacious > & succinct > > > >Leap into the unknown and the net will appear.< > > > >As always, >Von Leap and the net will appear. http://www.tiac.net/users/wenders ___________________ Don't take advice, take a chance, roll the dice, learn to dance. - David Wilcox ___________________