Date: Fri, 16 Aug kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 96 : Issue 95 

From: "Rondi McBoyer"
Subject: Hello!

Hello everyone....
I've been on the list for about a week now, and feel as though I should
introduce myself, don't want to be accused of lurking interminably.  My
name is Rondi, chronologically I'm 43, and have raised a teenager, only to
see her go off and enjoy her life, strong and independant.  I say this for
the benefit of you in the teenager thread... I know it is difficult,but it 
is possible to raise intelligent, thoughtful kids.  Feel free to write if
you think I can help.  
I didn't realize that what I had been going through was called anything
other than "growing up" until I went to an Ashram with my daughters
mother-in-law  ( more later)  last spring.  She had been talking about this
place for quite awhile and I finally asked if I could join her on a weekend
. She had planned to get the places garden going for the summer.
It was, to say the least a wonder full experience, I came home brimming
with new thoughts and insights, and a name for this tingly thing that had
been rearing its head for so long.... It's the "k" thing as you call it.  
All this and the guru wasn't even there... he was in india for the summer. 
But I did meet some really incredible people.. I'm sure I'll return there
this fall, and you will hear about the trip then.
These last two years have been full learning experiences for me, still
sorting all sorts:) of things out....Parents dying, kids leaving,business
failing....but everything always works out the way it is supposed to, there
is really no such thing as a coincidence.

Wendy, I followed your link to 2013 today... what a trip!  Thanks.

Thank you all for writing everything that you do.
Rondi


Date: Thu, 15 Aug 
From: stampmanATNOSPAMix.netcom.com (Daniel Rusch-Fischer )
Subject: Throat Chakra - NOT a Problem


Have been following the speculation about my little 'vision' problem. 
Was driving home yesterday afternoon when, on the freeway, I got 
'slapped' in the back of the head. Yeah, that is how it came to me - 
anyone else have 'rude' awakenings. Until now, they have all been 
quiet, kind of dreamy and mostly linear. This was WHAM, there it is, 
take it or leave it! I have attached a gif of the symbol in question.
Here is what came:

1. The point of interest was the throat - this ain't mysterious, the 
throat is the source of the voice, the expression of the intellect - 
COMMUNICATION

2. The center of the 'chakra' was emanating bright white light - sounds 
like a pure, good, POSITIVE PRODUCTION to me!

3. The edges of the 'chakra' consisted of jagged torn flesh layed back 
in a regular 6-pointed sunburst - well, duh! You ain't heard of blood, 
sweat, and tears, elbow grease, giving of yourself, etc. - the 
METHODICALLY APPLIED PHYSICAL SELF expended in the performance of a 
task

4. The sense of FUTURE imbalance - a warning

5. Interpretation: She is or will become engaged in the production of 
some communication (book, memoirs, speech, etc.) that will require 
considerable disciplined physical exertion and if she is not careful 
and overdoes it could be harmful, but, if balance is maintained, shows 
promise of being a brilliant success.

The above aren't my words, they are the rude-sounding expressions that 
came like the above-mentioned slap to the back of the head. This all 
sounds like a pack of gypsy-fortune-teller stuff to me, but that's how 
it got it - who am I to question when you all are out there. Opinions, 
please. I think I have a goldfish bowl around here somewhere - all I 
need is a tent and a black tablecloth with some stars and moons sewn on 
and I will be in business - how does $10.00 a fortune sound?    %-)

DAN
ps: the mogen David wasn't in the original impression, I just added it 
for dramatic and mysterious effect.   ;-)





Date: Fri, 16 Aug 
From: V487ATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: Can anyone help please?

Hi: Dan

>dont think about it. just "do" it. surround her with white light.
yes, its that simple. think of it as an oval placed around her.<

Well, Dan I'll give you an extra point for that!

I always tell people to just keep it simple and here I am trying to put
something together concerning creating the light shields and I don't really
know if anyone will even understand it.  Yes, it is so simple and over
thinking is one of the biggest problems.  Life is actually to simple, but the
brain has to vibrate 24 hours a day or it is not happy.  

By the way I like your name.  It's so simple.

Just do it!

As always,
Von


Date: Fri, 16 Aug
From: V487ATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: Karma

Hi: Mark

>One thing I'm learning is all life is Karma and sometimes because of it's 
nature, it really sucks!<

Yes,  Mark it does, but there is something you did not notice.  Now you can
see it. 

As always,
Von


Date: Fri, 16 Aug 
From: V487ATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: Karma

Hi: Arlene

>I have been in similar situations and it's an awful feeling...Powerlessness.
Yet, I will say the THE DAY I DECIDED I HAD HAD ENOUGH and took a STAND...
that day my life changed for the better. I took back my own power, even in
the
very real possibility that I could lose my life in the process.<
- ----------------------------
Life is so interesting.  Once you jump into the unknown then everything
changes instantly.  Many people ask how do you this or that.  What can you
tell them, "jump into the unknown"?

After you do it you become a different person , but then no one else
understands and you can not teach them.  Also they don't  teach this course
at the Universities.

As alway,
Von

Each individual is a necessary and vital part of the Whole*
 & You can not have an ocean without waves* 


Date: Fri, 16 Aug
From: SYL228ATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: Can anyone help please?

Hi Jeff:

I'm sorry you are getting so upset by this.

the first thing you must do is surround yourself with light.  If this fellow
is as psychic as he claims, he will get to you too.  Then the turmoil you
feel will only get worse, and you will help no-one.
Then i agree with the others who say we cannot interfere in another's right
to learn and grow even through bad experiences.  All we can do is send the
light and surround them with it to the best of our ability. The light has a
way of bringing things to the correct conclusion.  We cannot decide what that
should be for anyone but ourselves.  We cannot play God.

If you have trouble surrounding yourself with light, because you are so
upset. One method that works for me is the following mantra. 

The light of God surrounds me,
The love of God enfolds me,
The power of God protects me,
The presence of God watches over me,
wherever I amGod is.

this can be taught to children too.  You might share it with your friend if
she will listen. 

Also it seems to me that her husband is very disturbed and needs the light as
much as anyone.  However if you cannot clear your own mind and be calm about
this, don't even try to send him light.  Ask others more detached to pray for
him.  If you send light to a person you are angry at, you actually end up
sending them your anger, and fueling the fire.  Your mind must be empty of
all negative thoughts toward the person, and filled only with goodwill to
send light effectively.

Love Jule


Date: Fri, 16 Aug
From: Dan Gahlinger
Subject: Re: Can anyone help please?

you wrote:
>Hi: Dan
>
>>dont think about it. just "do" it. surround her with white light.
>yes, its that simple. think of it as an oval placed around her.<
>
>Well, Dan I'll give you an extra point for that!
>
>I always tell people to just keep it simple and here I am trying to put
>something together concerning creating the light shields and I don't really
>know if anyone will even understand it.  Yes, it is so simple and over
>thinking is one of the biggest problems.  Life is actually to simple, but the
>brain has to vibrate 24 hours a day or it is not happy.  
>
>By the way I like your name.  It's so simple.
>

my brain, this morning, feels like a cheddar melt. but thats par for the
course. yes, the simplest things are the hardest to grasp or do. people stop
and say "yeah, but..." and they wont do it. and then, in that hesitation,
it's lost, perhaps not forever, but, none-the-less... sigh.
"breathe deeply"  it's like telling someone to "relax", you can say
it until you are blue in the face, but it does no good.

Dan.

>Just do it!
>
>As always,
>Von
>
>


Date: Fri, 16 Aug
From: John Halonen
Subject: Re: Can anyone help please?


Perhaps it is so simple that a white light is already around a person and
they only need to notice it.
There is energy in breath, but until you notice your breath, how can you
notice your energy.

The energy is already there, it does not need to be built.  Just notice it.
Love is already there, it just needs to be noticed.
Something so simple, sometimes people connot believe it.

Peace,
John Halonen


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From: Dan Gahlinger            \ Internet:    (danATNOSPAMvrx.net)
Subject: Re: Can anyone help please?

you wrote: >Hi: Dan
>
>>dont think about it. just "do" it. surround her with white light.
>yes, its that simple. think of it as an oval placed around her.<
>
>Well, Dan I'll give you an extra point for that!
>
>I always tell people to just keep it simple and here I am trying to put
>something together concerning creating the light shields and I don't really
>know if anyone will even understand it.  Yes, it is so simple and over
>thinking is one of the biggest problems.  Life is actually to simple, but
the
>brain has to vibrate 24 hours a day or it is not happy.  
>
>By the way I like your name.  It's so simple.
>

my brain, this morning, feels like a cheddar melt. but thats par for the
course. yes, the simplest things are the hardest to grasp or do. people stop
and say "yeah, but..." and they wont do it. and then, in that hesitation,
it's lost, perhaps not forever, but, none-the-less... sigh. "breathe deeply"
 it's like telling someone to "relax", you can say it until you are
blue in the face, but it does no good.

Dan.

>Just do it!
>
>As always,
>Von
>
>



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Date: Fri, 16 Aug
From: jmckinnonATNOSPAMcc.weber.edu
Subject: Re: Re;ego

A Tibetin budhist said that getting rid of the ego is analogous to 
realizing the difference between the clouds and the sky.

I think mabey he was talking about ridding our selves of our 
insecurities, and our psychological/emotional defense mechanisms.

Mac (JohnMcK)



On Thu, 15 Aug 1996, Royale Jills wrote:

> Regarding ego; im thinking that it is a hypothetical construct created by the person to 
> account to the question, Who am I?,.  To loose ones ego i think, is a mistake, as it is 
> needed to function with everyday life. Also to merge it with the One is ok, if you 
> realize that it probably wont stay merged in this lifetime. So going in and out of 
> oneness seems to be the best I can do. Love Royale
> 
> 




 
Date: Fri, 16 Aug 
From: ijuster
Subject: Grab Bag

Royale: 

I too dance between becoming one and being a part of one (being one of the
many). I do not resign myself to this; this is my goal for being on the
planet. I wish to dance as merrily and joyfully as I can, always. 

Another Analogy:

I think of Dan Millman's term, The Peaceful Warrior. 

Also, Tantra as described in Tantra: The Supreme Understanding (Osho,
discussing the Song of Tilopa, an ancient Tantric text) quotes:

The void needs no reliance
Mahamudra rests on naught.  
Without making an effort,
But remaining loose and natural,
one can break the yoke--
thus gaing liberation.

Mahamudra, the blissful union with the cosmos, is an experience of
nothingness, as well as the great orgasm, millions and millions of times
greater than we can ever imagine. As nothingness, simply you are not. And
when you are not,  who will be there to suffer? Who is there in pain and
anquish? Who is there to be depressed and sad? And who is there to be
blissful? Buddha said if you feel blissful you will again become a victim of
suffereing, because you are still there. When you are not, completely not,
utterly not, then there is no suffering and no bliss-- and this is real
bliss. Then you cannot fall back. To attain nothingness is to attain all.

Long way of saying, this is my limited understanding of what Akido is also
about.....being loose and natural, so that nothing can hurt you....? 

Re: Can anybody help please: 

Having worked with many relationships I have come to see that people
co-create their problems. I think the most loving thing we can do is to show
people what they are doing to co-create what they have. If you simply remove
this woman from this situation, she will most likely go out and re-create
this pattern.

Some people are ready to move on into new patterns. But each person must
come to that decision on their own. Relationships can generate addictions of
co-dependency.  Like any addiction, the co-depenedent person needs to have
something powerful to substitute for the original addiction if they are to
successfully break the pattern.

Sure, some people are strong enough to go cold turkey. But many more need to
have ongoing group support and alternative outlets for their previous
addictive behavior patterns--in addition to a powerful will to change.

Co-dependents Anonymous is a free organization which provides quality help
via group support for those who wish to help themselves. No one else can
ever really help beyond providing a menu of alternatives. A battered women's
shelter is another alternative but it doens't sound like this woman is ready
to move that dramatically.

Send her light if you wish, and I'd add an extra coating for yourself, for
it can be tricky to be a rescuer too, even with the absolute *best* of
intentions.

I can tell your heart is open and in the right place.

Good luck, 

Love Patti


Date: Fri, 16 Aug
From: Mark Rivera
Subject: Re: Can anyone help please?

Hello, this is not a spiritual request so much as it is an urgent, life 
request. I live in Brooklyn and have been offered the job of a life time 
in Paramus, NJ. If anyone knows of a real estate or place that deals with 
studio's or rooms for rent in Bergen County NJ, will they please write me 
the number. I have been trying, but to no avail. 

PS Von, I wrote you and you never replied, did I offend you?


Date: Fri, 16 Aug
From: "Rondi McBoyer"
Subject: Thanks and more

Well, isn't this strange? writing to folks you never met?  Please bear with
me while I adjust.
It's nice to write to you all...Anne, what do you mean when you say you are
starting a teacher education program?  Are you teaching it?, or learning
about being one?Forgive me for being dense, but I am interested...Rondi

Jeff: Re: Helping
There is indeed alot of darkeness running amok out there, you must send
positive enery to your friend on a constant basis... I'll try to help..Good
luck
Rondi


Date: Fri, 16 Aug
From: "Rondi McBoyer"
Subject: Throat Chakra

Here's a thought...I have a friend who has taught me lots on the K subject,
she says when she starts to tell me something I'm not ready for, her throat
closes up and she can't say anything,until she decides what she is allowed
to say.
Rondi


Date: Fri, 16 Aug
From: stampmanATNOSPAMix.netcom.com (Daniel Rusch-Fischer )
Subject: Leap & the net will appear.

Wendy,
Of course! If you start jumping up and down, you will be judged crazy, 
and the guys with the net WILL appear!! (giggles), (guffaws), 
(arrgghh!!, I think I swallowed my tongue!) (HELP!! the be-serious 
demon, Spinuserectus, is punishing me!!)   DAN     =-|  8-(   %-0


Date: Fri, 16 Aug
From: V487ATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: Thanks and more

Hi: Rondi

>Well, isn't this strange? writing to folks you never met?<

But, we did meet!  Did you forget?  "We are like the waves of the ocean."
How did you miss me, as I met you?  I am here.

As always,
Von


 
Date: Fri, 16 Aug
From: John Halonen
Subject: Where was I?


A beautiful Song,
The Weeping Willow,
The magnificent Sunset,
A chorus of Birds singing,
The dance of the Moon on the Ocean,
A magical Painting,
Deep Blissful Sleep,
The Sunrise and a Breeze.
A Rainbow in it's Majesty.


Date: Fri, 16 Aug
From: Royale Jills
Subject: to; Patti

Oh yeah, I know him as Bhagwan Rajhneesh.  Ive several of his books.
 He has had lots of disciples here in the past.
  In Santa Cruz, Ca.  They moved to Or. and then I think
 They disbanded after he died in India after getting deported.


Date: Fri, 16 Au
From: "Rondi McBoyer"
Subject: Unidentified subject!

Oh yeah...I do remember you,nice to see you again...
Light, Rondi


Date: Fri, 16 Aug
From: Richard Satin
Subject: Fwd: kundalini

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From: rialto                   \ Internet:    (flarir19ATNOSPAMmail.idt.net)
Subject: kundalini

I am looking for someone with direct experience of kundalini -- 
intentionally awakened to discuss some things with.

If you are in this category I would appreciate communicating with you a 
bit.

Felt Lair


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Date: Fri, 16 Aug
From: Arlene Benjamin
Subject: Jeff and Mary

Hi Jeff and Mary,

Just thought I'd inquire about how things are going for you.
Please keep us posted!!!
Namaste'...Arlene
Trust is more than a five letter word*
Faith is Believing without Seeing*


Date: Fri, 16 Aug
From: cmwithATNOSPAMcris.com (Michelle Withers)
Subject: bouncing off the walls

Dear all,

I went to an indian sweat cerimony last night, and it was awesome.  I know
the topic is Kundalini - but I feel that we are really discussing how we
are changing, and kundalini is sort of like the catalyst.

I have never been in indian cerimonies in this lifetime before, but it felt
like I was home again - doing something I loved  :)  praying, being
surrounded by like folks - wanting to cleanse the spirit.

Last night I went home feeling supercharged, and today my day started out
with a bang.  I have been bouncing off the walls today - just so happy I
could fly.  Feeling laughter inside like I've never felt before - just
bubbling forth, spreading the happiness around.  It's contagious  :)
Nothing has broken this euphoric feeling within mySELF.

It's like I know who I am and nothing but the moment matters.  Today I felt
excellent  :)  Who cares about how I felt yesterday - that was yesterday.
And I couldn't care about tomorrow.  All that matters is that I like myself
in the present, and I have forgotten how to hear those pesky voices which
used to tell me that I couldn't do certain things - or that I failed at
other things.

I've had so many past life memories lately that my life seems to make clear
sense to me.  All the things which have happened during my life have had
specific purpose in teaching me something valuable about myself, which all
intricately fit into WHO I am.  I wouldn't be who I am - or see things so
clearly if my life hadn't played out exactly the way it has.

Maybe nobody knows what I'm talking about - but I just wanted to share some
of my thoughts tonight, as I am feeling like I'm going to explode with joy.

In light and love,

Michelle


 
Date: Fri, 16 Aug
From: "Debee L. Thomas" <>
Subject: Re: Another Analogy

I think it is as Richard said earlier.  I noticed that my name, another 
name, and the k-l was present.  I've looked at others and this is the 
case.  So it would seem that there isn't any problem as things are 
running as they should :)

Blessed Be

Debee


Date: Fri, 16 Aug
From: Arlene Benjamin <>
Subject: Michelle

Hi Michelle,

Good for you. I know the feeling. Same thing happens to me after Reiki sessions
where we do healing on each other. It is tremendous.

I haven't made the opportunity to do the sweat lodge yet. I do look forward to 
it, also. 

Glad you are feeling so well.

In Love and Light,
Namaste'...Arlene
Trust is more than a five letter word*
Faith is Believing without Seeing*