From: georgevATNOSPAMeor.com (georgev)
Subject: I am awakening again!

Sexual energy is flowing with me again but I must note that the feeling
is very blissful. I relate to it as sexual by my visualization and
inner relations to my goddest.

george


Date: Mon, 22 Jul 1996 20:38:
From: Karol Ann Barnett 
Subject: Re: I am awakening again!

An interesting post, George, especially since I just read an 
astrological report today that said this very thing was going 
to be happening!  "Goddest" - great.



On Mon, 22 Jul 1996, georgev wrote:

> Sexual energy is flowing with me again but I must note that the feeling
> is very blissful. I relate to it as sexual by my visualization and
> inner relations to my goddest.
> 
> george
> 
> 


Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 01:11:
From: Karol Ann Barnett <>
Subject: Re: Earthquakes

Hello Richard:

As I may have mentioned before, I am "Earthquake Sensitive" -- that is, 
I have a certain set of physical symptoms when a relatively large 
earthquake is about to hit, somewhere in the world.  I had those 
symptoms today and checked the earthquake site.  To my horror, I 
discovered that Hawaii has been slammed repeatedly with more than 
10 earthquakes of various magnitudes in the past 24 hours.  

Are any of our members from Hawaii?  Von?


Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 07:48:
From: Stevie <>
Subject: Re: I am awakening again!

wow... me TOO!   the past two days have been intense ones for the lowest
two chakras, here and elsewhere it would appear!

-steve

On Mon, 22 Jul 1996, Karol Ann Barnett wrote:

> 
> 
> An interesting post, George, especially since I just read an 
> astrological report today that said this very thing was going 
> to be happening!  "Goddest" - great.
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, 22 Jul 1996, georgev wrote:
> 
> > Sexual energy is flowing with me again but I must note that the feeling
> > is very blissful. I relate to it as sexual by my visualization and
> > inner relations to my goddest.
> > 
> > george
> > 
> > 
> 
> 

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Date: Tue, 23 Jul 96 
From: Richard Satin <>
Subject: Re: I am awakening again!

> wow... me TOO!   the past two days have been intense ones for the 
> lowest two chakras, here and elsewhere it would appear!

Yes!  But at least here not just the bottom two...also anahata (four)...
Oh yes.  Definitely four.

ATNOSPAM ;>
Richard

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Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 
From: hbarrettATNOSPAMix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.)
Subject: me too and earthquake

Hi, I'm new to the list.  Me too, especially Sunday.  Karol Ann's 
earthquake sensitivity interested me because I've often thought my 
opening was dramatically accelerated by the Northridge quake (I live 
quite close to the epicenter).  Do many of us live near faults?

Another question:  My awakenings are frequently accompanied by tears 
that may or may not have feelings attached to them.  When I cry for 
personal reasons, e.g. grief, my eyes get so swollen and red I can 
hardly open them for hours.  With the sobbing that comes with the 
energy, nada, no redness, nothing.  Anybody else notice this or have an 
idea why?  I am so happy to find you folks out there!

Holly


Date: Tue, 23 Jul 96 
From: Richard Satin <>
Subject: Re: me too and earthquake

Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D. writes:
>Another question:  My awakenings are frequently accompanied by tears 

I have definitely noticed this phenomena, which for me occurs even at times
if I come near another person or (occasionally) place which is particularly
active.  There is no emotion involved, but my eyes begin to water very
noticeably.  As it progresses, I feel an intense "roaring" moving through me
and sometimes lose the power of speech for a time.

Lots of strange stuff, eh?  It's nice to hear that you have experienced
something similar.  

Richard

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Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 
From: V487ATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: I am awakening again!

> On Mon, 22 Jul 1996, georgev wrote:
> 
> > Sexual energy is flowing with me again but I must note that the feeling
> > is very blissful. I relate to it as sexual by my visualization and
> > inner relations to my goddest.

Am I missing something here?  "Blissful sexual feelings  from a Goddess".
  Lucky that I am a male!

As always,
Von


Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 
From: Glenn Scheper <>
Subject: Re: me too and earthquake

Holly asked:
	Do many of us live near faults?

I do! I drove over the Hwy 14 overpass at about 2 AM,
going in very early to work. It collapsed at about 5 AM.

Having suffered from occasional schizophrenic delusions
in the past, especially regarding messianic grandeur,
I was very excited to have caused that earthquake. 


Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 
From: georgevATNOSPAMeor.com (georgev)
Subject: Re: I am awakening again!

Fo me I have to still my self or I cannot experince Kundalini.

I still my self in a kind of tensing state and I also do Mantra
meditation at the sametime. It helps me to still my emotions so that I
can evaluate them.

On the area of sex I don't have anyone that I can have sex with do I
meditate on it. I created a inner lover or goddest who allows me to do
what wills so that I can learn insights to sexual/creative energy. I
have learned to reguide the sexual energy so that it is right in its
action.

I have notice that many people seem to think too much about the
physical body and not about the mental/spiritual body. I have created a
goddest inside that helps me evaluate my choices in my actions. If I am
sexually energised I can convert that energy into heartfelt compassion
and love.

I love to meditate on sex but much of what I do is mental/spiritual and
not physical in the sense that most people relate to sex. I have always
had a different point of view of sex that most people becasue I wanted
to improve sex in the idea of higher desires. Much of what makes sex a
problem is in misconduct. When people learn one way they think that it
is the only way to do it.

I work with my sexual impulses in my photography and way of life.

I'll try to illustrate how I do this. In my mind I visulise who is my
sexual subject. Im my mind I evaluate my action and convert it into
what I want for that situation. 

My thinking is sexually disposed and it might be becasue I am a Scorpio
but I have figured out a way to work with sexual feelings that is
positive.

I have had it a goal to figure out a way to help highten both sexual
pleasure and right action. Much of the problems with sex is wrong
action. The action of lust not love.

When the Kundalini opens for me I realise the way to have sex right and
also how to guide others in this action. Becasue the opening of the
Kundalini is like a mental/spiritual orgasm or bliss releace one
doesn't need to be focused on the physical orgasm all the time. One can
dream about touching, kissing, going to romatic places, and experincing
higher states with their love one.

For my way of love I have to take this path of Kundalini so that I have
the right guidence of my right action. I become balanced in the area
that I fret the most. To have a lover who accepts that you need
guidence and allows you to learn higher truths through them is really
helpful.

I have always noticed that sex is never delt with holy highness as it
should. I have made it my intent to create Images of what right sex
action is as the kundalini awakens all higher states of a person. I
feel if people learn a positive way of sex it will promote a right way
of sex choices.

george


Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 
From: georgevATNOSPAMeor.com (georgev)
Subject: The goddest and the god are..

The same when one is open. Only in duality thinking does one relate to
this and that. All just is.
Men and Women are. There is no good or bad there just is.

I have felt the gay god, the lesbain goddest, and even trancended with
them all. I have had the insight of gay and lesbain enegys.


Please understand that much of what I talk about is meditive
mental/spiritual insights like. I know how it "feels" to be this or
that. Much of my blissful meditaiton is in blissful feeling.


 
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 
From: V487ATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: I am awakening again!

HI George

I am sure the women will love you for making them out as a sex object again
and especially a Goddess sex object!

Von
----------------------------------------------------------------

<< On the area of sex I don't have anyone that I can have sex with do I
 meditate on it. I created a inner lover or goddest who allows me to do
 what wills so that I can learn insights to sexual/creative energy. I
 have learned to reguide the sexual energy so that it is right in its
 action.
 
 I have notice that many people seem to think too much about the
 physical body and not about the mental/spiritual body. I have created a
 goddest inside that helps me evaluate my choices in my actions. If I am
 sexually energised I can convert that energy into heartfelt compassion
 and love.
 
 I love to meditate on sex but much of what I do is mental/spiritual and
 not physical in the sense that most people relate to sex. I have always
 had a different point of view of sex that most people becasue I wanted
 to improve sex in the idea of higher desires. Much of what makes sex a
 problem is in misconduct. When people learn one way they think that it
 is the only way to do it.
 
 I work with my sexual impulses in my photography and way of life.
 
 I'll try to illustrate how I do this. In my mind I visulise who is my
 sexual subject. Im my mind I evaluate my action and convert it into
 what I want for that situation. 
 
 My thinking is sexually disposed and it might be becasue I am a Scorpio
 but I have figured out a way to work with sexual feelings that is
 positive.
 
 I have had it a goal to figure out a way to help highten both sexual
 pleasure and right action. Much of the problems with sex is wrong
 action. The action of lust not love.
 
 When the Kundalini opens for me I realise the way to have sex right and
 also how to guide others in this action. Becasue the opening of the
 Kundalini is like a mental/spiritual orgasm or bliss releace one
 doesn't need to be focused on the physical orgasm all the time. One can
 dream about touching, kissing, going to romatic places, and experincing
 higher states with their love one.
 
 For my way of love I have to take this path of Kundalini so that I have
 the right guidence of my right action. I become balanced in the area
 that I fret the most. To have a lover who accepts that you need
 guidence and allows you to learn higher truths through them is really
 helpful.
 
 I have always noticed that sex is never delt with holy highness as it
 should. I have made it my intent to create Images of what right sex
 action is as the kundalini awakens all higher states of a person. I
 feel if people learn a positive way of sex it will promote a right way
 of sex choices.
 
 george
 
 


 
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 
From: SYL228ATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re earthquakes

I had always thought that my worst manifestations felt as if I had an
earthquake in my body.  Since we are all part of mother earth, it isn't
surprising that some of us would be sensitive to everything going on inher
body.

I read about the heat and pressure buildup in the earth prior to earthquakes
once, and it did sound very similar to some of the more spectacular heat/wave
manifestations of "K".

Some psychics believe that because thought manifests in the physical, we the
people of earth in some way cause her earthquakes.  That could be scarey.

So what does it mean when we feel increased earthquake activity in our bodies
this way?
Is there increased activity because of the increased "K" manifestations?  Or
are we simply supersensitive to earth?  Or do we really cause the
earthquakes?

Maybe when they say that when we save ourselves, we save the whole world, one
reason is that as we become more peaceful within ourselves, earthquake
activity will subside?  
In the meantime, because i really don't know the answer to which came first
the chicken or the egg.  Does anyone?  I try to focuss as much as i can on
beingness and peace.  what it accomplishes for the earth I can't say, but it
reduces my "K' manifestations to more acceptable levels a lot of the time.
 For me that means a lot.

And yes i did feel it. starting about last Wednesday.  The heat, the waves
and feeling off-balance etc.  I also had watery eyes the whole time.  Whether
this was related I don't know.

During that period I had a dream that a caped figure caught me from behind
and took out the lenses of both eyes and replaced them with multi-faceted
crystal lenses. Since my eyesight is pretty good, I assumed this dream and
the tears were related to more "K" manifestations.  Now you have me
wondering.

Love Jule


Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 
From: SYL228ATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Crown chakra

Hi everyone:

Does anyone out there have information on what happens when the crown chakra
is opened.  Or for that matter what area of spiritual development it covers?

Love Jule


Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 15:41:
From: Steven Enstad <>
Subject: Re: Re earthquakes

Regarding changes in the waves passing through the matrix during 
Earthquakes, check out:

----

http://www.jse.com/v4n2a2.html

Some Observations of Electromagnetic Signals Prior to California Earthquakes
 
by Marsha Hancock Adams

----

http://www.jse.com/v4n2a6.html

Electrodynamic Disturbances Associated With Earthquakes: An Analysis of
Ground-Based and Satellite Data
                                  
by Michel Parrot

----

http://www.jse.com/v4n2a11.html

Radio Emissions From an Earthquake

by James W. Warwick

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http://www.jse.com/v5n1a6.html

Low-Frequency Seismogenic Electromagnetic Emissions as Precursors to 
Earthquakes and Volcanic Eruptions in Japan

by Takeo Yoshino

----


Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 14:20:
From: Karol Ann Barnett <>
Subject: Re: me too and earthquake

yes, i have also experienced this.  when i am crying from grief,
i experience a flood tide of tears and it hurts to cry.  but i 
get immediate relief though my face is swollen for a time.  

like Richard, i can be next to someone who is deeply hurting and 
i take it all in and i have to go cry it out.  but it is a 
different kind of crying.  it can take me by surprise sometimes.

Wendy, are you there?  Wendy can respond to this post very well.

re: earthquakes, i live in vegas and i felt the northridge, big 
time.  

Richard, I'm very happy to know that your heart chakra is expanding. *8-)

And Holly -- welcome! 


Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 
From: "I.Juster" <>
Subject: Re: I am awakening again!

Somehow in George's comments I felt that women, sex, Goddesses, etc.  were
honored.


Funny, isn't it? How beauty (and lack thereof) are in the eyes of each of us
beholders....


George, thank you for sharing your insights on your kundalini experience.

Let he (or she) who is innocent cast the first stone (of judgement) on others!

...a woman (Patti)


Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 14:37:
From: Karol Ann Barnett <>
Subject: Re: Re earthquakes

hey jule:


that was some dream!  metaphysicians say that we are 'conduits of Light' 
like a crystal, so to me your dream means that you have made major growth.
Congratulations!

i had a dream not long ago, after i was baffled over this earthquake
business.  in the dream, the naturopath that i used to go to appeared and 
said, "I've looked at your chart and I see you're not absorbing the 
magnetic force."

that is what the spiritual-metaphysicians say -- that we are in a time 
of intense energy sent to earth and in order for it to help earth, we 
have to absorb it.  when it bounces off of us through our denial and 
our fear, it strikes the earth instead of healing her.  

so now when i get hit with earthquake sickness, i go meditate and 
take in as much as i can.  

CAVEAT:
this is only one viewpoint and my intent is not to force it on 
anyone but only to answer jule's inquiry with what i have learned 
in my experience.  love and peace to all


Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 
From: Bluhvn11ATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: Re earthquakes

Hi gang..i'm new to the group...so bear with me...:)

this note from jule interests me, coz  she brings up a good point about the
possible relationship between our collective thoughts and physical
manifestations. My experiences have led me to believe that there is a direct
relationship at some levels.

however, i catch myself remembering that there isn't that same relationship
between atomic structure and the orbital structure of solar and galactic
systems...they're similar, but not exactly parallel. maybe parallelism isn't
what i was looking for...anyone have some thoughts on that?

It seems to me that it's too convenient to relate the "earthquakey" inner
awakenings that we are experiencing with geotektonics in the
"outer-experience". On the other hand, i'm pretty convinced that everything
is connected at the atomic level (and other less empirical levels, of
course).

light & bliss,
blue 


Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 
From: PRuighATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: Crown chakra

When the crown chakra opens(I'm not speaking from experience) one experiences
union with the Divine.  It is called samadhi, kaivalya, self-realization,
enlightenment, communion, heaven, union of Shiva and Shakti, etc.  Most
mystics in history say the experience is beyond the range of human language.
 There are no words.  The I and You 
become only you. The experience and the experiencer are unified.  The ego
dies.
People describe the sense of having no body. Some levitate.  One is supposed
to lose body consciousness in the state known by the Hindus as samadi. My
energy is quite awake and is flowing in the body and through all the chakras
but I still have body awareness. When the highest chakra is pierced one is
beyond the duality of pleasure and pain, so I don't even know why I'm writing
about this as I have no experience of it and probably should keep my mouth
shut.  When the bee finds the honey, he or she makes no more noise.  Shanti.
 Pam


Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 
From: Bluhvn11ATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: Crown chakra

jule,

The manifestations of the crown chakra (sahasrara) are described with it's
attributes in Gopi Krishn'a "Living with Kundalini". good book.the sanskrit
word means "to multiply by a thousand"   :)

It is the experience of tapping into the infinite spiritual dimensions that
lie beyond the personal perameters of consciousness. It's where you transcend
your individual mind and enter into perfect conscious harmony with the
infinite spiritual wholeness of the universe (whew! )    :)

"Kundalini Awakening" by John Selby describes the c.ch.as very yang (male),
but the experience is bliss...when the chakra is opened...He refers to it as
the "receiving Christ  Consciousness".

Other than that, my experience is limited to few moments of this kind of
bliss.

blue 


Date: Wed, 24 Jul 1996 
From: nicki <>
Subject: asana poster

I wonder if anyone knows where I can get hold of a large chart showing 
yoga asanas. I live in Melbourne, Australia and have been unable to 
locate one anywhere. US or other addresses would be fine.

Thanks

Nicki


Date: Tue, 23 Jul 1996 
From: V487ATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: I am awakening again, but now asleep again.

Hi: george 

I did not mean to offend you.  Should I not post what I feel?  You can post
any thing that you want to.  I am very happy that you expressed yourself.
 Don't you ever think that maybe your should concentrate on a little higher
charkra.  Yes fogs do it, snakes do it, bugs do it, Etc.  Some how I just
feel the homo sapiens have the ability to do a little better.  Do you know
what is meant by the Marilyn Monroe syndrome?

Do you feel that I am throwing stones at glass houses as posted?  If so then
would you do it in a glass house? 

Take care,
Von