[1]: From: Jim Cook 
Subject: The Adventures Of Dr. Kundo

                              The Adventures of Dr. Kundo     Part 1


  Dr Kundo awoke at 3:00am and in a foul mood indeed.
 "  I've got to get these Kundalini experiments underway" He thought to himself.
    He desended the damp stair well to his laboratory.
   "Herbert, Herbert, are you awake yet" he called.
   "Herbert, didn't I tell you to put some better lighting in this stair well"
    Dr. Kundo entered his laboratory just as Herbert was lighting the kerosene 
    Lanterns.
  " Master, do you think we can get some real electric lights down here some
day ?"
  " Don't worry about that Herbert, right now we have a lot of work to do"
   Dr. Kundo pulled a big switch and the whole laboratory came to life.
   Purple plasma started swirling thru tubes, lights began blinking all over
the 
   place.
  " Do you see what we have here Herbert"?
    Dr. Kundo said as he pointed to a large glass enclosure.
  " What is that Master" Herbert Yelled.
  "It's a Kundalini Herbert"
  " With this, you and me Herbert, Are going to be masters of the world"
  " Stand back Herbert, I'm going to connect these super high voltage relay   
    connectors.

                                    Stay Tuned For Part 2



 [2]: From: Richard Satin 
Subject: Admin: Kundalini-l Web Site Postings

Dear Listmembers,

I'm in the process of extracting some posts to place on our new web site
pages.  I plan to remove email addresses and last names - unless you tell me
otherwise.

In the future, I will assume that there are no objections to my placing
extracts from the list on to the web pages.  
If any of you have objections to my placing your posts there, PLEASE let me
know.  

I will be writing to you individually for permission regarding posts from
before today.  

If there are any artists out there who have kundalini related images they
would like to see on the pages, please get in touch.  You may not get rich,
but you will be attributed, and greatly appreciated.

Richard
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 [3]: From: Jai1008ATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: intro


Hi all... I am not particularly lurking but somewhat overwhelmed at the
inital volume of mail, and with what I would reply. I have misplaced the list
of intro questions, but I'll try to give you a quick picture (which seems
quite impossible). I have been dealing with what I term Kundalini for fifteen
or so years. I can not summarise my infinite experience very easily. Here are
some qualifiers--at various times I have read lots of books on the subject,
most all on the shared transformation list and then some. I have swam deeply
for years in several forms of spiritual practice all leaning toward the
esoteric contemplative--Buddahist meditation, especially Tibetan, Hindu
bhakti yoga, and Christain devotion. I have had religious experience and
mystical phenomena in all these, trained with lots of different apparent
heanyweight teachers, gurus and then some (including a course in miracles,
shamaism, I'm a trained rebirther and a reiki person and an artist of sorts
and so on ad nauseum). This mostly all out of a natural curiousity and a
voracious habit of reading and leaning toward the esoteric. I agree
wholeheartedly with whoever pleaded for less religious dogma, however, as
I'll get to below. I also relate to those mired and exaltant in it.  I
occasionally have tried some of the type of exercises you all mention and had
a few bodys sensations, heat, tingling, energy flows and such,but my real K.
experiences were fullblown, giantly large, dramatic and thouroughly mind/body
being altered. The only ongoing symptomology I encounter is full body
shaking, I am doing it now as I write and anytime I am in a charged
situation, and chronic fatigue/energy bursts and of course lots of random
psychic/healing phenomenae. I also have a very sensitive digestive system
that is a constant pain in the ass. I was born with scoliosis and have been
consciously straightening my spine for ten or more years. The shaking comes
from K flow that hits blockages, in this case my curved spine, I currently
believe. All beliefs, opinons and attitudes, as well as all body
manifestations change constantly as the flow manipulates my body and bieng,
so even writing about it is a bit suspect, as it's most about FLUX and
learning to live fully in it, a tricky task. I certainly feel the list shakti
as well. I had three full scale,  documented Kundalini uprisings, spaced
about three years apart and brought on by the use of psychedleics, though I
have been swimming in the currents my whole life. I would hope any of you
folks prejudiced against the use of hallucinogenics would suspend your
disapproval and note that altering the mind/body through chemicals
(especially plant dervied ones) forms the backbone of most all of the world's
mystical tradition and evolutionary habit. My arousals were classic and
severe. I have worked since with many organizations, psychiatric, scientific
and alternative healing wise as a go between, either facilitating experience
for others in crisis or  explaining phenoemene. Each break, I call them
breaks because my ordinary consciousness was in every way very thouroughly
suspended/superseded while the flows overtook everything, lasted
approximately three weeks. I went once two straight weeks with no sleep at
all. It is all very definately a physical process, one with it's own momentum
and charge, having only incidentally to do with any practice or spiritual
hodgepodge I was concurrently dipping into. I have never done an ongoing
spiiritual practice as perscribed anywhere, but I do have a very active
spiritual life. In all three cases I was institutionalized against my will,
but very well taken care of, I say this somewhat tougue in cheek....I can
elaborate on this and pacify or scare your socks off, as you wish.
Fortunately I had the education and support systems to have a context to put
my experiences in. While I did not seek a kundalini experience on any
conscious level (I figured it was too dangerous because of my back), I knew
when my body started going into serpent like convulsions and dances, and my
neck and head were snapping all about that it was probably kundalini. Many,
many forms of telekinesis, ESP, clairaudience and so forth have I
experienced. I tend to agree with folks who warn aginst getting to caugt up
in these manifestations, yet I have no control over any of it, so mosltly I
just sit back and try to enjoy whatever is happening. I have noticed while
working in  kundalini oriented communities that the whole notion of it, not
to mention the experience, can lead to a very annoying Promethean egomania,
and I definetely caution against trying to override weaker parts of yourself
by trying to tap into what you think is some cosmic panacea and powerhouse.
Since the full arousal was always foisted on me by surprise, with little
conscious aid, I tend to be a bit suspcioius of people trying to devolp it at
all. In it's full form it is not something that this culture has seen much of
and as such can get really dicey really fast. I do know that it is it's own
evolutionary force, responsible for many cases of "Mental Illness" (I've
written and published a bit on this if anyone cares to read, though I'm
pretty disorganised right now) and that for me personalizing it as mother
nature at work, keeps me the most balanced about it all. I love religious
claptrap, but for me K force is so far beyond our currently held group
cosmology that not even our most esoteric, enlightened religious teaching
glimmers at it's magnitude. It is, pretty much, for me, the force of
evolution at work, and I feel honored, priveleged (not that it doesn't touch
far more people than it's name does) and humbled to get to watch it close up.
It's like watching a live volcano crater from a helicopter. I keep it in the
realm of the natural (I don't believe there is such thing as supernatural,
it's not even a logical construct to me) and I trust it's divine, natural
intelligence to guide me.  I have been a bit verbose already, so I guess I'll
stop here, but I have a warehouse in my head, body and heart on this topic.
Thanks for all your posts, I enjoyed reading them.



 [4]: From: Richard Satin 
Subject: Fwd from Carlo Izzo

------- FORWARD, Original message follows -------

> 
> From: Carlo Izzo           \ Internet:    (izzoATNOSPAMrosat.mpe-garching.mpg.de)
> > 
> > Will do, Carlo.
> > Check out the pages tonight or tomorrow http://www.execpc.com/~libra
> 
>         Dear Richard, feel free to edit my worst mistakes with English.
>         More important, I asked my wife to review the description I have
>         made of her kundalini awakening. There are two points that should
>         be modified - she says it's important, and I tend to agree.
>         First of all, I have written:
> 
>         "she felt a sort of "energy" coming to life at the base of her spine".
> 
>         This is wrong: she had the first sensation somewhere between her
>         stomach and her belly.
> 
>         Next, I have written:
> 
>         "Currently she can control it more and more", talking about her
>         "energies": she says that she cannot actually *control* them:
>         she just learned not to *try* to control them, accepting to
>         *follow* them. She describes it as if these "energies" are
>         "evolving", and all she can do is to follow them.
> 
>         All the rest is correct.
> 
>         Please, could you forward the above also to the rest of the group?
>         Unless you find it is not really necessary, because you put
>         it in the home page anyway.
> 
>         I have to say that Zana is kind of enthusiastic of this mailing
>         list - more and more each passing day. I really regret her
>         refusal of the computer (I have even to print the mail, because
>         she doesn't want to read it from the screen - isn't it funny?).
> 
>         Ciao, Carlo
> 

------- FORWARD, End of original message -------


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forces that work from individual to individual, creeping through 
the crannies of the world like so many rootlets, or like the capillary 
oozing of water, which, if given time, will rend the hardest 
monuments of pride.
-William James


 [5]: From: vetfindATNOSPAMinteraccess.com (Judy Kavanaugh)
Subject: night sweats

Hi,
Does anyone have any remedies for night sweats?  I know this is a normal
part of the kundalini process, but it is more than a little annoying at times.
Thanks in advance,
Judy


 [6]: From: GgjiATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: tolerance

Judy,
HI, thanks for your comments, I'm waiting to see what the responce is from
the group.  I do believe it is unfortunate that people get caught up in
spiritual vocabulary, I have a western background, with a very eastern
understanding woven through it.  But, I communicate very much in relationship
to divine will as the carrier of the Holy Spirit. There are terms like prana,
Skati and verious words used to relate to polarity such as the self and not
self yin and yang, lower self, higher self, because  all religions relate to
the spiritual truth. Since yoga means union, in the Muslim religion the
concept of union is expressed through the word Islam which means surrender of
the lower to the higher principle of the self. This to me is alignment to
divine will which centers ones attention on the undoing process, and death of
the ego. 

I have been experiencing kundalini for so long that when I talk about it, it
comes out direct and to the point. I believe one person called my
communication " opinion not fact"  Well, you wouldn't know if it is fact or
not unless you try it and find out from personal experience that it is not
true.  Everything I talk about is from direct personal experience. I don't
communicate on a subject unless it is something that I work with daily in
discipline. But, again, I speak direct and to the point. This may bother
some, and I'm sorry about that. I don't prethink what I  say, I always speak
and write spontaneously, and when spirit communicates it does come through
with power. That is also a result of kundalini and the Holy Spirit working as
one.  

There are not a whole lot of people that can talk about kundalini from direct
experience that also can at will move to any center, see and understand its
frequency, light, sound, color, etc.  because it is being directed by the
Holy Spirit from  the crown chakra.  This should be valuable information to
receive without charge over a computer ... especially to those who are having
problems.  I have been through many what I call eruptions, or volcanic blow
outs in my time, and I can share what to do with those who are having this
kind of experience.  But, this is not my discussion group. And, I respect the
people doing it, I know if it is God's Will for me to continue, I will, if
not, it is perfectly fine with me.  God Bless All.  GgjiATNOSPAMaol.com
Gloria Greco


 [7]: From: GgjiATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Fwd: Re: Introduction and questions

---------------------
Forwarded message:
From:	edumknapATNOSPAMslonet.org (Mary Knapp)
To:	GgjiATNOSPAMaol.com


Gloria,

I can't read the attachments to this one either!  Another good reason for
you to post to the list!  I did read your intro a few days back.  I was
most intrested in your relationship with the Virgin Mary.  She appeared to
me once as a large and beautifully lit statue.  That was probably about
all I could have handled at the time.  A few years later I received
confirmation that there is no such 12 storey statue in San Jose,
California.  I had been searching for it in vain.

I live on the central coast of California, San Luis Obispo county.  I grew
up on the north shore of Long Island.  Geographically speaking, I have
been a very fortunate person.

Thanks again for trying to send me info.

Mary


On Sun, 9 Jun 1996 GgjiATNOSPAMaol.com wrote:

> Mary,
> I'm sorry I wrote something to you, I remember that also. Perhaps I didn't
> save it right.I will try to do it again. Meanwhile I'm sending some
> background on my past, I will get back to you.  It is best if you write me
> directly at this address. I have yours now. So, we can get to know each
> other.  Where are you from?  I'm in Reno, Nevada. God Bless.
> GgjiATNOSPAMaol.comGloria Joy Greco
> 


 [8]: From: GgjiATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: Opinion vs Fact Bill answer

Thanks Debbee,
Instead of people getting involved in what is right or wrong, I always
suggest to detach and observe what is coming down. God works in mysterious
ways, and when we allow spirit to work, there is undoing, but it also works
great miracles in the process. 

At least half of the spiritual awakening process involves detachment. That
means one is the passenger/observer and goes with whatever is happening at
any given moment.  In this way, spirit is in control.  It seems the reaction
is around if I know what I'm talking about, this is one of those things that
requires one be open enough to actually work with the energy to see what it
is, and where it comes from.  I kind of chuckle at this, my goodness if
people need help with kundalini and there is someone who lives it daily, that
should be a valueable source to help people.  Especially when it is totally
given free and from love.  Thanks again for reaching out. Gloria Joy Greco


 [9]: From: "Debee L. Thomas" 
Subject: Re: tolerance

> discipline. But, again, I speak direct and to the point. This may bother
> some, and I'm sorry about that. I don't prethink what I  say, I always speak
> and write spontaneously, and when spirit communicates it does come through
> with power. That is also a result of kundalini and the Holy Spirit working as
> one.  

I find this kind of communication, that from the heart, is always the 
very best type of communication there is.  I appreciate each and every 
one of you on this mailing list.  There may be a few bumps along the way 
but all in all, I think it will be a huge success.  That success will be 
due to each and every one of you, your thoughts, beliefs, and experiences 
both spoken and unspoken.  Each of you, in his/her own way, can and will 
make a very large difference in someone else's life.  I'm thankful for this.

Blessed Be

Debee


[10]: From: GgjiATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: tolerance

I think the discussion is always healthy if there is love coming from all. I
only want the best for everyone. Gloria GgjiATNOSPAMaol.com


[11]: From: "Debee L. Thomas"
Subject: Re: Opinion vs Fact Bill answer

> Instead of people getting involved in what is right or wrong, I always
> suggest to detach and observe what is coming down. God works in mysterious
> ways, and when we allow spirit to work, there is undoing, but it also works
> great miracles in the process. 
> 
> At least half of the spiritual awakening process involves detachment. That
> means one is the passenger/observer and goes with whatever is happening at
> any given moment.  In this way, spirit is in control.  It seems the reaction
> is around if I know what I'm talking about, this is one of those things that

Thank you very much.  You've given me some confirmation in your response 
and didn't even realize it :)  I've been reading a great deal about 
detachment to things, people, outcomes and so much more.  I've been 
working on this within my own personal life for quiet some time now.  I 
appreciate your response more than you could know.  I know, once again, 
that I'm on the right track.  It's also something many need to ponder and 
will be a great release to them in all areas of their lives once they are 
able to accept and grasp it.

Blessed Be

Debee


[12]: From: GgjiATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: So much heart energy

Carlo,
You may be having kundalini moving and are not aware yet, more then likely
you are very much involved or you wouldn't be with your wife. My husband
grounds me, he is very quiet about spiritual things, but he is always there
to help release energy if I'm going through a major explosion. He understands
it more then I could say, and perhaps that is what your part will be for at
least one cycle.  Don't put yourself down. Gloria Ggji


[13]: From: GgjiATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: religious differences

Carlo,
I have thick skin, you can't be doing this for many years like this and not
know that the pendulum is going to swing. Both positive and negative forces
work to move the blocks through. We use detachment to observe the process.
Nothing anyone has said, hurts me in anyway, I can not help the way I speak.
It is who I am. And, God has worked for many years teaching me to communicate
with no thoughts in the way to manipulate the flow. This kind of
communication is very powerful. The kind of discussion going on is because of
it, everything works for good, we just have to ride the wave. This situation
will resolve itself in time. God Bless, or am I suppose to say something
else, have a good day. Gloria


[14]: From: Jai1008ATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: night sweats

drink sage tea and take a salt bath before going to sleep.


[15]: From: GgjiATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: RE: Tolerance and Manners

HI Richard,
I'm sorry it has kind of boiled up, but everyone who is writing me is asking
me to continue. You are going to have make that call not me.  I appreciate
your situation, and it really is to bad that it came up so quickly.  But,
don't you think it is really like getting it to the place where everyone will
be a little more impersonal about words, and sleep with the message before
having a reaction. There are actions and reactions, the part of detachment is
to allow information to come in, observe it, watch it from within and then
see what happens. That has been my experience.  Best to all. Gloria Ggji


[16]: From: GgjiATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: intro

Jai,
I can tell you have met the dragon face to face, it is indeed a trip. It is
hard to explain it to anyone unless you've felt the impact of the million
watt bulb.  So, you know what the shakes are?  I use to break out in a rash
from the heart center up when I spoke. Now, it doesn't happen so much, thank
goodness. 

Thanks for sharing. Gloria Joy Greco


 
[17]: From: GgjiATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: Haiku

JIm, 
A good description of what is the destiny of one on the ride. Gloria


[18]: From: Jim Cook
Subject: A Bit Of Humor

Hi Everyone,


I'm sorry that this is a little off topic but I had to share it.


        Recycling Tips :      Old telephone books
                              make great address books
                              Just cross out the names of people you don't know


[19]: From: Jim Cook 
Subject: The Bee Buzzing

Hi Everyone,

I have noticed a few people mention that they have heard the sound of
buzzing bees or something similar to that at the time of their Kundalini
Awakining.

I have been hearing that sound 24 hrs a day for the past three years.
Sometimes, I'll have the bees in my left ear and what sounds like birds
chirping in my right ear.

What I am wondering is, has anyone close to you, also been able to hear
these sounds ?

I went into the post office about a year ago and I was standing in line to
mail a package.
And then the strangest thing happened.
The postal clerk behind the counter, looked around and said " What is that
Noise"
The clerk next to her said " I don't hear any thing"
She said "It sounds like some kind of electronic humming or something"
Even though there were about six people standing in line.
She came out from behind the counter and was walking all around looking for
the source of the sound.
The five people in line in front of me all told her that they couldn't hear
anything.

Another time, I heard a knock at my door, so I answered it.
There was a young boy about 12 years old standing there and he said
"What is that noise in there"
I said, "It's probably my radio"
He said " No, it's a different kind of noise"
I said " I don't know"
Then he got a strange smile on his face and walked away without saying anything.

Is this just coincidence ?

Bye For Now,

Jim Cook
jimcATNOSPAMsonic.net


[20]: From: Iver Juster
Subject: Unidentified subject!

As I am in the midst of strong kundlini symtoms coursing through my body, I
was wondering, do  people think the symptoms come with some sort of elevated
spiritual awareness?  That would be so nice.   I can't tell if my
consciousness changes when I get a lot of symptoms or not, as I don't have
an extra mind on which to run any experiments. 

I appreciated the advice on night sweats. So I pose one more question: what
can anyone do to mitigate the burning?  (I certainly haven't found an answer
yet, but I was so amazed that there was an answer on the night sweats that I
thought I would give it a try.)

Best to all. Patti

PS THanks to everyone for their contributions. Just knowing I am not so
alone makes a world of difference. I read this list every day and always
come away inspired, even more committed to staying in love and sending love,
too.