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Patti Mon, 10 Jun 1996 21:08:04
Debee Sun, 9 Jun 1996 19:33:15 -0500 (CDT)
Shakti Sat, 8 Jun 1996 22:00:22 -1000
El Collie Thu, 6 Jun 1996 20:23:53 -0400
Bill Peay Fri, 7 Jun 1996 12:06:22 -1000(CDT)


Sun, 9 Jun 1996 19:33:15 -0500 (CDT)

Subject: RE: Tolerance and Manners

> It may sound hokey, but I mean this in the truest and best sense:  Let's all
> try to have love for one another.  Sound fair?  

I would like to thank you for this post Richard.  In fact, our messages crossed in the mail
so-to-speak.  I just wrote you a private one on this  very topic.  Loving one another and
respecting one anothers differences  is what growth and learning are all about.  
After all, we are all  connected on a soul level.  This is my belief anyway.  You may
or may not  agree and that is ok.  I'm always open to other ideas because I'm on a
personal quest to grow and evolve as much as I can during this lifetime.   I'd like to
thank each and every person personally for their input, but  more important,
I'd like to thank you for being YOU.

Sincerely and Blessed Be



Mon, 10 Jun 1996 21:08:04

...Thanks to everyone for their contributions. Just knowing I am not so alone makes a world of difference. I read this list every day and always come away inspired, even more committed to staying in love and sending love, too.

Best to all. Patti

El Collie

Thu, 6 Jun 1996 20:23:53 -0400

I am very glad this new Kundalini mailing list has been created. As I and many others have discovered through our communications in ST newsletter and Web pages, there is always more to learn, more to explore, more to share with those who are fellow travelers on this great journey of expanding consciousness! Thank you Richard, thank you Melissa, thank everyone who has come together to help us all in this vital way.


Sat, 8 Jun 1996 22:00:22 -1000

From: bpeay@aloha.net (Bill Peay)
Subject: Info and Reflections
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>Has anyone else noticed that this mail list is blasting with shakti?  I am
>not talking figuratively -- I am getting supercharged torrents of energy from
>everyone's Kundalini stories.  If the energy keeps up this strong, the people
>who want to awaken Kundalini will only need to join this list and get
>shaktipat by email!  Wow, maybe we're creating an electronic group-mind guru!
>Then again, I may be crazy.
>El Collie

You're not crazy, El, I'm supercharged, too.  I've set my eudora program to
file "kundalini-l" mail into a special window which I keep open all the
time.  I'm squealing with glee each time I see a message appear.  I haven't
been this excited about e-mail since....well...since ever!  What a great
group of people out there!  My chakras are all open, and especially my
heart chakra, after reading everyone's experiences.  We are, indeed, not
alone, eh?


Bill Peay

Fri, 7 Jun 1996 12:06:22 -1000

I'm here with you, lurking as Richard described, to see what develops. I'll jump in from time to time, but you're all in my thoughts, and I'll be reading everyone's posts. From the traffic I've seen on the Kundalini Resource Center Web sites, and the requests for info from the autoresponding robot, there are TONS of people interested, or at least curious, about kundalini. This list will grow very fast...

Thanks, Richard, for making this all possible!



From: SnowbirdV

Subject: Re: Welcome to the kundalini list

Didn't pick up my mail for a couple of days and then I got something like
120messages. A little overwhelming! I've read most of them, but I saved them
and will read them at length over the week-end. But I wanted to thank El Collie
for the Shared Transformation page and newsletter, which has permitted me to
progress and be reassured I wasn't losing it. This info has been a tremendous
help regarding my ongoing transformation. And now, I must thank Richard
Satin for this great idea of an ongoing discussion on this process. I'll be sure
to post my own experience in a few days. The exchanging of tips on how to
cope with some symptoms is also very helpful. Just reading the messages
triggered a BIG surge of energies. Bless us all!


Date: Sun, 16 Jun 1996 16:45:16 +0200 (MET DST)
From: Frans 
Subject: Loose Remarks On A Sunny Dutch Sunday

Hello everybody

The initial excitement/expectation has changed, i feel now more amazed,
amused, inspired, overwhelmed yet relaxed. I judge less, feeling less
alone, less special also. I wished i could do something for those in
pain..., although sometimes i fear my share of pain has still to come...

About visions, some time ago i had a funny one on the train home. I saw
a golden goose or swan rocketing into space, fire coming out of it's
ass... Just lately i saw a drawing of the first chakra, there was a swan
in it.
A few times everyday i see a tiny blue light, lighting up for a second
or so. When walking outdoors i get the impression it's raining light on
the earth.

Is anybody else on the guru-trip? I go nowadays to Mother Meera in

Story: i was talking with an english lady once. She said she was very
sensitive about energy. She even had her own practise. As i was sitting
next to her energy was shooting up about 2 or 3 meters in the air (i
guess) out of my head, as usual. I was embarrased a little bit. Do you
tell anybody else what you're going through??

Re: Flesh... i wished i could meet you all once in the flesh.

Has anybody 'Third Eye and Kundalini', from B.S. Goel?? (Third Eye
Foundation, India, 1985) Can't get it here in Holland.

Saying from Bhagwan:
"There are two infinite things in this universe. God's Love and Men's

I hope noone is offended! Around Feb/March i was mailing with
. It stopped abrupt. Since then i wonder, did i say
anything wrong? Or has something happened to her? It bothers me.
No answers, many questions. Thanx all of you, God bless you, F.

Date: Thu, 20 Jun 1996 18:53:50 +0100
From: The Psy-kick Worrier ov Gaia 
Subject: Touchy subjects & an Introduction


I was thinking of joining a support group but this suits me down to the ground for the
moment! I've been 'lurking' for a while so this is my first post. I'll introduce myself
but first this is what booted me into action;

Viviane wrote in kundalini-l-d Digest V96 #18

> May I express my gratitude for this mailing list that enable us to exchange
> on this very touchy subject that we can't discuss with our friends in
> general.

I've had experience of this; friends have reacted in a certain ways (eg. "don't get
involved in that californian wierdness, it will send you mad") and I've had to be
careful not to take that as a threat from them.

I think people have an instinctive uneasiness about such subjects because buried deep
inside there is knowledge about the 'other' as some call it. The 'other' is a dark room
at the moment to many people and when some of us shine torches we unwittingly scare
others (this is the classic scary film effect - the dark dusty loft with the faces of
old toys being caught for a split second in the torch beam!).

Going off the subject a bit, this has parrels with racism; an instinctive tribal
reaction in my opinion, that happens for very good reasons. Again people get scared and
(knee-jerk) react. The problem is they don't know *why* they react. If only things like
the 8-circuit model of human consciousness (of Timothy Leary, Gurdjieff, and others; see
http://www.intac.com/~dimitri/dh/circuittables.html ) was taught in school. The reason
why it is'nt is a whole other can of worms though.

Of course, I do have friends I can talk to, and now I've found this mailing list!

My interest in Kundalini is closely related to my history. Three and a half years ago my
mother died of Cancer. As a family we were all closely involved in the illness and the
process of working through mothers death which included a Humanist service and much
sadness, happiness, distress and support. Both my sister and brother went through
periods of depression. My sisters depression (specificly, manic depression cycles) was
complicated by 'recreational' drugs that weren't (ie. psychedelics). This has also
been the case with my brother (he was labelled 'Paranoid Schizophrenic' for a while) but
in my opinion his problems originated from a number of meditational sessions that he
embarked on without any advice or guidance. In both cases I have recognised that the
unusual behaviour that I witnessed was k energy; the symptoms of too much of it too soon
(see Spiritual Emergence or Psychosis? by Selene Vega
http://www.well.com/user/selene/SENarticles/SpiritPsychosis.html ).

Of course I have had my own struggles as well; especially with coming to terms with
these events and the reasons for them. Many have told me to leave the whole situation
alone fearing that I was becoming obsessed with it (more like stubborness on my part!).
At one point I was convinced I was dropping into the same mindset that caused my brother
and sister so much pain. Eventually I finally came to a place where I could except the
spiritual reality of what was happening to me and my family. Trust is definitly the
word. I can now trust in the paths that my brother and sister follow with enough
understanding not to interfere and cause more problems. This leaves me to concentrate on
myself - I have recently started a course of hypnotherapy.

I am 26 (fairly close to your age Melissa if you're reading this!) and live in the Lake
District, Cumbria, the UK.

"We must understand that every moral idea is strictly a hallucination. It creates guilt
which creates muscular tension, which creates rage. That leads to further armoring, to
hold the rage in. That leads to all the psychosomatic illnesses that orthodox medicine
can't cure and to all the social pathologies around us. Rape. Child-beating. War."

Robert Anton Wilson. Excerpt from "Wilhelm Reich in Hell, a 2-act musical".
( http://www.tcp.com/~prime8/raw/hell.html )

Peace, Love, No Blame!



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