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From: Kundalini

-- Topica Digest --
 
 Re: The battle of 2001
 By icemanATnospaminecco.net
 
 Wim and kundalini
 By loulou_3ATnospamhotmail.com
 
 Kundalini
 By loulou_3ATnospamhotmail.com
 
 Re: Kundalini
 By anglfthrATnospamiamerica.net
 
 Re: The battle of 2001
 By SmilingjaguarATnospamaol.com
 
 Re: Kundalini
 By icemanATnospaminecco.net

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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 15:55:39 +0100
From: "Zarko Kecman" <icemanATnospaminecco.net>
Cc: "Beloved K-list members" <kundaliniATnospamtopica.com>
Subject: Re: [K-list] The battle of 2001

-----Original Message-----
From: Zala <s062723ATnospamstudent.uq.edu.au>
Cc: Beloved K-list members <kundaliniATnospamtopica.com>
Date: Sunday, December 26, 1999 11:07 AM
Subject: Re: [K-list] The battle of 2001

>
>good by take me off the list - i didn't ask to be put back on, so I am not
>pleased
>

To understand other human beings you need to understand yourself. There
is something, some kind of angry in you. To whom. It is not matter of the
list,
here, only. Wise man don't ever attack anyone, because, he knows movements
of the universe.
You can tell to me that I am stupid or whatever.
I don't care. It's same like you tell to me that I am smart.
To bi wise, is not only to know
the thruth. Real wisdom is how to put the truth in the mouth of the simple
man,
and that that man think that he love this.
But also, to be wise, is to be in harmony with -I don't have word-, only
then you can be in harmony with others people. Only
then you can understand someone who don't understand. And be
father to them. Not someone who have garbage in mouth, and many of
intelectual papers on the Brain. Yes, you put all this staff on the list,
and you can say. Oh, my, I am good, and so smart.

After all, I was read your posts. I like this posts, but, for me, there is
no
deep experiences of what you are talking about. Do you swim in that
Ocean, or just stand and spoke - I think that you people don't swim on
the right way.

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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 10:11:43 PST
From: "Marion Hanvey" <loulou_3ATnospamhotmail.com>
Subject: Wim and kundalini

Dear Wim,
I read your post on irresponsible kundalini. I had to write and tell you
that I thought it was incredibly brave of you to risk destroying yourself in
order to rebuild yourself. I could never do that. I take my hat off to
you. I would if I was wearing one, anyway!

Maybe the reason I'm such a scaredy-cat is that 7, nearly 8 years ago
my most favourite relative in all the world developed lung cancer.
At the time I was in a psychic development circle, and I began sending
absent healing to him every waking moment. Almost literally every moment I
was conscious. I got many psychic insights at this time, including seeing
his past lives. (I wasn't bothered about the psychic insights by the way,
and I thought my being taken to see his past lives was an intrusion on his
privacy, it wasn't my business)
Anyway, to cut a long story short, he still died (my uncle, 12 days afer his
50th birthday, on St. Valentine's Day)(Very apt he'd been married 4 times
and had 12 children)
The point to my telling you this though, is that all the absent healing I'd
been doing for months had done something to the distribution of energy in my
body. It's very hard to describe, but it's as though I did not fill up my
body. As though I stopped about chest level, and the rest was empty. I
found it very frightening. Nothing helped. I tried spiritual healing and
all kinds of things like that, but it made absolutely no difference
whatsoever. I thought I would go to see the doctor, go to see a
psychiatrist if I thought they would have been able to help me, then I
thought "What will they be able to do? There's nothing they can do."
This continued from February(when Merlyn died) to August, when by chance I
went to see a man who turned out to be a Yogi. I looked at this man who
seemed to be giving off the same energy that you imagine
Jesus gave off when you were a little kid, and thought, "I'll ask you"
Mentally I said, "Please help me". Mentally he replied, "Just hold out your
hand." The next day I was cured.
The point to this is that I think that subconsciously there is a little bit
of fear and wariness in me about messing with my body energies, certainly
consciously. I suppose the innocence has gone in a way.
A strange thing is that in September of this year I was attuned to Reiki 1.
I could not sleep! The energy was whooshing up and down my
body, blasting out of my feet. Blasting in my crown. In fact I was just
like a hollow tube, with this energy blasting up and down it.
I tried to get rid of it by sending it to trees ,grass the world everyone.
I prayed to God to unreiki me! Eventually I told the energy to stay no
higher than my shoulders, it could whoosh up and down to its heart's content
there, but to leave my head alone (so I could get some sleep) and incredibly
enough it seemed to work, it did what I told it. That was day 1. I had to
go back the next day for the next 2 attunements. I tell you I nearly didn't
go! All this energy took weeks to settle down , but it's all right now. I
might even risk Reiki 2 at Easter!
Just had a thought, it sounds like k doesn't it, but it was reiki.

I don't think I've ever written such a long post, Wim.

Best regards
Loulou
P.S. I'll read the others now, yours was the first one I read.

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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 15:53:03 PST
From: "Marion Hanvey" <loulou_3ATnospamhotmail.com>
Subject: Kundalini

I wish someone would answer me. I feel lonely here, not knowing what's
happening in my innermost being. If anyone has got any thoughts PLEASE
WRITE TO ME. Another thing I forgot to mention , right after the reiki
attunements I was able to read peoples' thoughts. I don't mean the thoughts
and feelings they were currently experiencing, which you can often tell
anyway, but what was bubbling up in their subconscious minds, before they
came to flower in their brains. Mostly not nice. You couldn't live in this
world knowing that so I told the experience/ability to go away and it did.
(I'm not aggrandising myself here by the way, God knows what's in my
subconscious)(It's a good job only God and enlightened beings know, they're
more understanding!)
Please, if anyone has any thoughts on the matter, please write to me.
In case anyone is wondering, I have been drinking wine, but it only brings
out what's there anyway. I don't believe people who say "it wasn't me, it
was the alcohol/drugs". Do you?

This is for Zarko; The reason I haven't written to you before is no
reflection on you. On the contrary. To experience what you experienced and
not be bitter or hard or emotionally damaged, I had no words to express. I
admire you. May God go with you my dear. I'll get my mother to pray for
you. She's not perfect (and I should
know) but she's got a real talent for prayer and for healing.
(She just won't admit she's got any faults, she blocks out what she says and
does that is detrimental to her, she says "It wasn't that way. I don't
remember saying/doing that.")

P.P.S. Re. Zala. There was knowledge there, but so much arrogance too.

I have heard (again) that God forgives everything except arrogance.

Regards to everyone
Love Loulou

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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 20:22:59 -0600
From: Jenell <anglfthrATnospamiamerica.net>
CC: kundaliniATnospamtopica.com
Subject: Re: [K-list] Kundalini

Marion Hanvey wrote:
>
> I wish someone would answer me. I feel lonely here, not knowing what's
> happening in my innermost being.

We all struggle with this. You are not alone or unusual in that.

 If anyone has got any thoughts PLEASE
> WRITE TO ME. Another thing I forgot to mention , right after the reiki
> attunements I was able to read peoples' thoughts. I don't mean the thoughts
> and feelings they were currently experiencing, which you can often tell
> anyway, but what was bubbling up in their subconscious minds, before they
> came to flower in their brains. Mostly not nice. You couldn't live in this
> world knowing that so I told the experience/ability to go away and it did.

No, this isn't a nice little 'gift' to have, I would that it would go
away so easily for me. I've been living with it for several years now,
doesn't seem to be going away. i've asked, pleaded and begged to no
avail. Both their now, conscious thoughts, and some of ther subconscious
ones, and sometimes, their future ones they will have in trsponse to
something later. Yuck. i learned to some extent to 'send' back, 'speak'
to them through the telepathy, my then got a hard 'hit' through my
empathy when they realized I was doing this, and their reaction of fear.
Can't seem to win on this one.

> (I'm not aggrandising myself here by the way, God knows what's in my
> subconscious)(It's a good job only God and enlightened beings know, they're
> more understanding!)
> Please, if anyone has any thoughts on the matter, please write to me.
> In case anyone is wondering, I have been drinking wine, but it only brings
> out what's there anyway. I don't believe people who say "it wasn't me, it
> was the alcohol/drugs". Do you?
>
I've never been much of a drinker anyway, no drugsm but do have an
occasional drink or two. I'vwe found it most important NOT to, though,
when I'm on a downer, it only makes it worse.

>
>
> I have heard (again) that God forgives everything except arrogance.
>
I think that is unforgiveness that He cannot forgive, for if we can't
forgive another, we cannot find forgiveness for ourself.

Jenell

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Date: Sun, 26 Dec 1999 22:29:16 EST
From: SmilingjaguarATnospamaol.com
CC: kundaliniATnospamtopica.com
Subject: Re: [K-list] The battle of 2001

> please, forgive me - am I being "over-sensitive" in this situation?
> v

In my opinion you are not being overly sensitive. I hate to have my mailbox flooded with this stuff, especially when preceded by one-liner posts calling others naive and stupid. We need to respect others' time and bandwidth.

Kimberly

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Date: Mon, 27 Dec 1999 09:22:52 +0100
From: "Zarko Kecman" <icemanATnospaminecco.net>
Subject: Re: [K-list] Kundalini

-----Original Message-----
From: Marion Hanvey <loulou_3ATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundaliniATnospamtopica.com <kundaliniATnospamtopica.com>
Date: Monday, December 27, 1999 12:57 AM
Subject: [K-list] Kundalini

>I don't believe people who say "it wasn't me, it
>was the alcohol/drugs". Do you?

Depend's if I tolking with alcohol/drugs or man who was drunked :).
This is usually happened when someone don't take responsibility
for his own actions. In any part of life.
Just to frelly take responsibility for anything. But someone can take
responsibility
only when he is free of attachments.

>P.P.S. Re. Zala. There was knowledge there, but so much arrogance too.

I was found in Zala only knowledge of books, not deep experiences.

>I have heard (again) that God forgives everything except arrogance.

I have heard that he was already forgive everything. One just need to
admit this to hem.

>
>Regards to everyone
>Love Loulou
>
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