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From: Kundalini

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 Re: Re: PLEASE HELP
 By martinATnospamtucana.demon.co.uk
 
 Re: How do we know it isn't just coincidence?
 By alingimpATnospamhome.com

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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 13:37:30 +0000
From: Martin Thompson <martinATnospamtucana.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: PLEASE HELP

18:51:41 Tue, 21 Dec 1999
 at SugyPieATnospamaol.com writes:
>sorry..I guess I forget to forward it...but I had a dream that said my
>subconscious is wide open
>
>what does this mean and please help ..i need to know a little bit more about
>the subconscious..I got only one message and need more opinions thanks

There is not enough material here to give a clear interpretation. A
single scene, with no context either from the rest of the dream or from
your life and times, is as informative as a single frame from a movie:
we can't read the script from that and probably won't be able to tell
what the movie is about and will certainly discover little if anything
about the plot.

If that is all you have from the dream, perhaps because the rest is
forgotten, then I would suggest you file it away and await further
dreams. Think about it for a short while, then ask your subconscious for
clarification before you go to sleep. First thing in the morning, with
no distractions such as alarms and radios, and before you move at all
(so keep still, do not turn over), check your memory to catch the tail
end of the last thing you were dreaming about. Trace it back in your
mind to go step by step back through your dreams. You will find, maybe
immediately, or perhaps after a few nights, that you can recall much
more detail from your dreams like this. If you have thought about the
dream, and if you have asked for clarification, it may be there. Or, it
may be that you have moved on and that message is no longer relevant:
see what today's message is instead.
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Martin Thompson martinATnospamtucana.demon.co.uk
London, UK
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Date: Fri, 24 Dec 1999 14:03:58 -0800
From: "alingimp" <alingimpATnospamhome.com>
Subject: Re: [K-list] How do we know it isn't just coincidence?

Martin wrote:
>How do we know it isn't just coincidence? After all, a lot of people
>suffer pain, disruption to their lives and psyche, migraine, etc.,
>without K, and a lot with it. So what difference does K make?

Well, how do we know whether anything that's happening to us isn't just
random coincidence? We don't. But nonethless we can observe ourselves, the
symptoms we are experiencing and certain changes and occurences affecting
body and mind. The difference that K makes is quite noticable to me. Before
and after K, so to speak.

Martin wrote:
>I'm comparing this with arguments like: Fred's grandfather has smoked
>for 60 years and never got lung cancer, yet Joe got it in 5 years of
>smoking. How do you prove that smoking is the cause when you have such a
>small sample set?

How do you prove it is not?

Indeed, in the case of smoking, it has taken a long,
>long time to show beyond reasonable doubt that there is a causal rather
>than a coincidental link, even though 95% of all lung cancers happen to
>smokers.
>("86.3% of all statistics are made up on the spot." Vic Reeves.)

So why bring in statistics at all then? Most things can be as likely as they
can be unlikely, even with a 95 % probability.

Karin

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