kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 96 : Issue 266
1 Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996
From: Paco
Subject: re: psychic challenges
Peter,
My point is, it's just human nature. Animals use a form
of psychic communication, birds fly in unison, whales migrate,
cats hunt using excellent team work etc etc etc.
Now, I suppose most everybody has some experience of human
nature, so these 'skeptics' are perhaps just being careless with
their use of names and definitions. Even the experiments mentioned
in the PEAR post don't seem exactly "psychic" related, as much as
they are bio-electric phenomena related. Science can, I have heard,
measure some kind of electric current in the nerves and around the
body.
I think that actually this question of proof cuts extremely
deep. Some writers such as Carlos Castaneda have hinted that "reality"
is actually a subjective illusion, a false perception of limitation.
If someone or something takes you "out" of that "reality" for a
moment, the experience would seem to have to be subjective, yet on
another plane it might somehow be objective.
So, obviously people interact and/or smack each other with
their psychic energies all day, whether most of them are aware of
it or not; obviously if some guy in Jersey stares at a screen until
his eyes pop out he can influence a magnetic needle to move a millionth
of a centimeter with his bio-electricity...but the "true" "psychic"
or "spiritual" phenomena may be out of reach of "proof" at this point.
I don't know if you're aware of it, but towards the end of Hume's
great "Treatise on Human Nature", which is an absolute work of the
highest value, upon which much of 19th and 20th century psychology is
based, and to which it owes any "science" it might have...towards the
end of it Hume began to describe a connection between the perceiver
and the object of perception, and in explaining it began to imply
a causal connection between the two; that the perceiver actually controls
or creates what he perceives, somehow, in some way; he kind of leaves
off there for more conventional ground, but it is interesting to
speculate on what he was trying to express. Anyways, this is rambling
later,
Paco
2 Date: Fri, 06 Dec 96
From: Richard Satin
Subject: Fwd: seeking answer to a personal experience
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From: manish tewary
Subject: seeking answer to a personal experience
dear sir
for last month or so i have been having a peculiar experience.
suppose you are in a hot environment and you are sweating.so when the
water(sweating) flows down and evaporates by heat you feel cool-a nice
feeling.or if you put water over your forehead after coming from a hot
environment and stand in front of a fan you have a nice cool feeling on
your forehead.a similar kind of feeling is there in the morning when you
wake up from a very good and deep sleep.you feel very light and cool at
the forehead.-------i am having this kind of feeling for last one month
or so,continously-infact it is there when i am writing.kindly answer
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There are so many little dyings every day, it
doesn't matter which one of them is death.
Kenneth Patchen
3 Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996
From: Barbara Burn
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
I am just beginning to explore kundalini. I became interested when, as a
Buddhist, the chakra system and how it relates to our practices, became a part
of my study. I have also begun to practice yoga again and would like to learn
kundalini. So far my search has included some reading and purchase of a video
tape to familiarize myself with the breathing and chakra exercises. I would
like to know if anyone knows of a good teacher in the Atlanta Georgia area.
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4 Date: Sat, 07 Dec 1996
From: Tim Duna
Subject: White Gold
I received this today in my mail from a friend. I know many have
joked about kundalini in a bottle...well, this could be it. At least this
is my feeling about it from what I have read on the philosopher's gold. It
seems to be a very pure form of prana.
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Here It Is:
From: HENIKEATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: White Gold**
Hi
I have been a participating member of the forum for some time and
would like to thank forum members for the very interesting contributions
they have made to unraveling the secrets of the the philosophers stone. I
have just finished writing a book on the subject and have included in it
some of the information shared by forum members. In appreciation for your
candid and factual presentation of white gold information I would like in
return to share the results of my participation in a 5 month study of the
Roanoke White Gold Group. (The following is an excerpt from my book
"Knocking at the Gate - The White Gold Adventure" summerizing our gorups
findings. (If interested see http://wwcol.com/liteweb/hol/ for further
information concerning the book.)
- "Before closing the chapter of our group adventure, however, I
would like to summarize some things we learned along the way.
Summary
Most participants fasted or went on a cleansing diet for a week or
so before consuming any gold powder. Most of the participants took
Etherium gold powder during the five month experiment in quantities from a
pinch to over 750 milligrams per day. Other members took essence of white
gold water which had been vivified by Alice's radionics machine. Others
took herbs and teas claimed to be high in Iridium and or Rhodium. Stella
and her husband took up to a gram a day of "vibhutti".
Overweight individuals lost, and underweight individuals gained
weight: one lady lost over twenty pounds; I lost ten; and my wife, who was
underweight, and took the powder for only a short period of time, gained
six pounds. No one had any serious illnesses, so health improvements could
not be verified. However, I had high blood pressure when the experiment
started. Shortly thereafter, my doctor decided to reduce the potency of my
high blood pressure medicine. This indicates that there was an improvement
in my circulatory system, perhaps because of the weight loss.
- Many of the individuals who professed having psychic abilities
indicated that these abilities immediately improved. Two participants
indicated being visited by a light being within a few weeks of taking the
white gold powder. Stella and her husband (a year after taking vibhutti)
are practicing reading the Akashic Records on a regular basis. Everyone
who performed the psychokinesis test succeeded in rotating the aluminum
propeller in both directions without touching it (after Rusty had
demonstrated how to do it).
Kirlian photographs displayed a doubling of the size of my hand
aura fifteen minutes after consuming 250 mg of Etherium gold powder.
- Prayer tests on sprouts after consuming the white gold for five
months revealed positive results. Corn sprouts grew twenty-one times
longer when given Reiki prayers enhanced by mana, then sprouts grown in
plain water. After consuming 250 mg of Etherium gold powder, the same
prayers resulted in sprouts which grew 33.1 times the length of the
standard sprouts. (Note for comparison: The best response of sprouts to
prayers given by 150 members of the Reverend Loehr's prayers for plants
experiment conducted in the 1950s was a 52+% increase in the length of
sprouts (Citation P30). This indicated a sixty percent increase in the
effect of prayers in improving sprout length when prayed for fifteen
minutes after consuming the gold. The startling increase in our ability to
pray for plants is indeed significant. It is quite plausible to assume
that the Pharaohs of old Egypt used the white gold powder to increase their
spiritual abilities prior to blessing the Nile Valley crops.)
The use of agricultural grade gold powder as a fertilizer is also
of significance. Corn spouts grown in tap water averaged .3 mm in length
while sprouts grown in a foliar solution using agricultural grade gold grew
39.1 mm. This is a 130.3 times increase in growth over seeds grown in tap
water. Watermelon plants receiving gold trace elements throughout the
season, grew 3.7 times longer, and produced two times more fruit which
radiated seven times more vital energy than the untreated melons.
The essence of white gold water, manufactured by Alice on her
radionics machine, also had a significant effect on plants. In one
experiment sprouts grown in plain water grew only .9 mm in length. Sprouts
grown in the essence of gold water averaged 19 mm in length; or 21.1 times
longer in the essence of white gold water. (Note: Adjusting the potency of
the essence of white gold water will likely yield a greater growth rate
increase.)
Although most of the group members are now focused mostly on the
possibilities of ascension and many are practicing the Merkaba, only a few
have said they have reached a higher dimension; but they all have returned
to the third dimension. No one in our group, to my knowledge, has ascended
permanently -- yet! I'll give them credit for trying though. They are
some of a very few who are actively seeking the kingdom. I assume that all
else shall be added, in God's good time."
Thanks again for your very informative contributions.
Respectfully
Don Elwood
5 Date: Fri, 06 Dec 1996
From: lodpressATNOSPAMinetworld.com (Gloria Greco)
Subject: Re: psychic challenges
Paco wrote:
>
> Peter,
> My point is, it's just human nature. Animals use a form
> of psychic communication, birds fly in unison, whales migrate,
> cats hunt using excellent team work etc etc etc.
> Now, I suppose most everybody has some experience of human
> nature, so these 'skeptics' are perhaps just being careless with
> their use of names and definitions. Even the experiments mentioned
> in the PEAR post don't seem exactly "psychic" related, as much as
> they are bio-electric phenomena related. Science can, I have heard,
> measure some kind of electric current in the nerves and around the
> body.
> I think that actually this question of proof cuts extremely
> deep. Some writers such as Carlos Castaneda have hinted that "reality"
> is actually a subjective illusion, a false perception of limitation.
> If someone or something takes you "out" of that "reality" for a
> moment, the experience would seem to have to be subjective, yet on
> another plane it might somehow be objective.
> So, obviously people interact and/or smack each other with
> their psychic energies all day, whether most of them are aware of
> it or not; obviously if some guy in Jersey stares at a screen until
> his eyes pop out he can influence a magnetic needle to move a millionth
> of a centimeter with his bio-electricity...but the "true" "psychic"
> or "spiritual" phenomena may be out of reach of "proof" at this point.
>
> I don't know if you're aware of it, but towards the end of Hume's
> great "Treatise on Human Nature", which is an absolute work of the
> highest value, upon which much of 19th and 20th century psychology is
> based, and to which it owes any "science" it might have...towards the
> end of it Hume began to describe a connection between the perceiver
> and the object of perception, and in explaining it began to imply
> a causal connection between the two; that the perceiver actually controls
> or creates what he perceives, somehow, in some way; he kind of leaves
> off there for more conventional ground, but it is interesting to
> speculate on what he was trying to express. Anyways, this is rambling
>
> later,
> Paco
HI,
Thought I would contribute to your discussion. It is time to take the
psychic thought form and melt it down over the top of every day
experience. There is nothing out of the ordinary that one can or will
know when the individual works out of the higher centers with the
foundation coming from the heart center. The little objects of out of
the ordinary experience will be totally eliminated through this because
one lives in this high energy current, and those things that appear as
miracles happen constantly. It therefore simply is and can be integrated
into consciousness without making a wave of any kind.
It is unfortunate that people look up to the psychic frequency and look
to those who misuse it, because it sets the stage for the glamour or
illusion to appear as something of importance. When things happen around
me, which is constant, it is simply accepted. Since I don't make
anything out of it, those who are with me accept it in the same manner.
When something really of spiritual importance happens there is an inner
knowing that the Holy Spirit is working creating transformation, and
those meaningless things of telepathic or intuitive communication simply
fit into it nicely to reflect divine will. This is the healthy way of
blasting through the psychic zone since it is a trap. I've known to many
who have become side tracked into it because of one of several reasons.
The feeling of knowing somthing, plus the thought that they are helping
someone, the money potential as a business, the self gratification, etc.
There is so much to learn beyond this state which is solar plexus driven
with the third eye open. When the energies get to the heart and
everything is centered through God's Will everything changes. It is the
beginning of the initiation process. And, I do want to say it again, it
is only the beginning. Gloria
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6 Date: Fri, 6 Dec 1996
From: Mistress Angelique Serpent
Subject: Alien at the Border.
So most people who have been following my posts, know that since my
home/dungeon was demolished in early November, I have been
impulsed/guided/planning to go Visionquesting for winter, feeling the need
to meet with other K. awakened folks I have met online, and visit some power
sites.
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That plan has been stalled by Mr. Bruner and Mr. Woods at us immigration,
Pacific crossing, Blaine Washington, who have decided I am an alien. I am
now at a loss as to how to prove to him other wise, haven given all the
documentation I have, and not been believed. Ironically, I believe I may
well be an alien , but in a very different context than they describe.
At a loss, I am looking for support or information, or just more positive
energy sent my way. It's a very long post, sorry, a lot has been happenning.
Business of mine dies over the holidays, so all seemed synchronistically
planned. I got $2500 bonus for moving out early for the developers, + money
saved, my furniture in three storage lockers, homeless during the slow
season, what better opportunity to travel in search of my higher self? Come
spring, I had planned to return to my beautiful city of Vancouver,
re-establish the 'Plush Playrooms', And continue my work as Experiential
Facilitator, but hopefully with an even stronger Healing/Goddess slant, from
the gathered wisdom of my questing.
Also in my role as spiritual leader for the Tribe of the Fire Serpent, I
was looking forward to recommencing the tribe's monthly meetings, and
sharing new wisdom with my group, with my family of my six personal slaves,
for whom I am Goddess/Mentor and Spiritual Tutor as well as Mistress.
First stop was to be San Francisco, to visit with Dan R. F. and his Lady
Karen, for our shared Birthday, Dec.1. Also to visit Traveller, and check
out the odd churches around there, The Service of Mankind Church, the Church
of all Worlds. Seeking Affiliations for the Tribe to become a proper group
entity. Seeking to perhaps wander to Sedona, for the Vortices. See if I can
become invisible under the influence of much natural energy.
You know that my Visionquest is supported and accompanied by Faerie.
- You also have been reading about the Alien that shows up in my mirror and
to friends.
A male of the Greys, who often shares wisdom with me. And that Guidance has
given me the name, Queen of Alien Hybrids.
Here is where the story gets twisted. I have been refused admission to
what my own spiritual guide Lightbeing is calling The United Nazi States, on
the grounds that I am an Alien. ( insert Laugh here)
Approaching the border on the Bus, last friday the 29th, I had anicipated
no difficulty crossing what is supposedly the longest undefended border in
the world. In Vancouver it is not uncommon for friends to zip across the
line and back, just for a tank of cheap US gas. I have never had a problem
crossing that line. I like to travel by train, unfortunately the Amtrak
computer was down, and the bus driver had agreed to come into Seattle
Station with me, to get my ticket. Tending to be a very honest person, I
filled out my PO box address on my customs card, tho it is not the address
on my drivers licence and passport, which is an address that is now a big
wet hole with rubble.
When they at us immigration discover I am a temporarily unemployed and
homeless artist without a return ticket, they yank me off the bus. After
going through all but my large siutcase, having a really good time going
through all my tiny leather bags of crystals, freaking out at my sacred
bottle of blood&vodka (Where did you get that much blood? It comes out of my
body every month..see here it says in this pleiadean book menstrual blood
for healing?) and examining with interest and curiosity my kinky toybag.
They assure me that with the recipts for my storage locker and a return
ticket, no problem. I, astonished and chagrined at this unexpected turn of
events, trudge back across to the Canadian side, to sit and think. Many
times have I crossed that line before, with nary a problem. As recently as
October, I went to Portland for the weekend to attend an SM convention held
by a non profit international educational SM organization, the National
Leather Association, of which I am a member.
I call my loyal slave lloyd, with whom I have been living for the past
month, and ask him to get me a ticket from the station and the recipts for
my storage locker, and fetch me at the border. He arrives, many hours later,
my knight in shiny wet raincoat, unfortunately having been unable to get a
ticket, and having forgotten the storage recipts. He, too, is astonished at
my difficulty, being in the habit of regularly driving over the line to
visit his sister in Oregon.
We are both in some shock, that my quest, so long planned and sought, had
been stalled so abruptly. He suggests that he might simply drive me to
Seattle, and if there are questions, he can vouch for me. The idea that a
Canadian might not be able to vacation freely in the US anymore has not sunk
in.
Driving through the border, honest as always, lloyd states that he is
driving me to Seattle, to go vacationing for two months. We are called into
immigration again, where a gentleman named Mr. Bruner recognizes me from
earlier, and wants to sieze lloyd's truck and charge him with smuggling me.
lloyd is understandably upset at this turn of events, but I manage to calm
him down and persuade Mr. Bruner that two thick skulled Canadians and thier
old truck aren't worth the paperwork. I do my best to persuade Mr. Bruner
that I really am just going on vacation, and he insists on clarification of
my career beyond artist. I tell him I am a dominatrix, and he decideds I am
a wandering prostitute alien, who intends to abandon all for a new life in
the states.
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This concept astonishes me, because while the us might be a very nice
place to visit on occasion, having some interesting citzens, well...when
Canadians get mistaken for Americans while travelling abroad, they are
usually somewhat offended. I am awfully proud of my third generation
Canadian citzenship. No way could I be persuaded to move from the most
beautiful city in the world, Vancouver. He gives me an unsigned paper that
says I require documents I don't have, including rent recipts for my
address, hydro bills, income tax forms...and a verbal statement that proof
of business, and whatever the earlier guys asked for, and no problem. He
states that having lived with lloyd for only a month, I cannot call it a
permanent address.
I understand this to mean, return ticket and storage locker, and something
to prove I am not a prostitute. A long drive back to Burnaby, and I spend
the weekend in emotional turmoil, seeking guidance. From my Lightbeing
Matthew, presently spending time guarding Dan's house:
>Doesn't your
>internet homepage verify and support all claims necessary to get across
>the United Nazi States border - right down to iterating why you don't
>currently have a permanent address, that you are vacationing, that you
>intend to return?
>
But of course, I say! 1000 worldwide visitors every day are reading about
my vacation/visionquest plans, on the internet, my 50mg website business
plan account, already paid in advance till Feb. explains all.
Armed with the papers required, and a copy of nearly my entire website,
and a return ticket, and the papers saying my home is in 3 storage lockers,
and the recipt for my internet account, this Wednesday, I attempted to once
more go on visionquest.
Arriving at the border, as required, I stated that I had been refused, and
spent lots of time answering lots of questions. Showed my storage locker recipt.
They won't accept it. Figure my life will be in storage forever. Not good
enough, they say. they wanna know there's a place rented, sucking my bank
account dry while I'm gone. They wanna see a lease. The result, they have
decided I'm not a prostitute, after studying the print of my website,
including the document nosex.htm, where it explains in great detail about
the no sexual contact rules of my service, ...but that I am still an Alien,
intending to abandon all for a new life in the usa.
The published statements on my site that I am temporarily unavailable for
sessions till spring makes no impression.
Abandon my patrons, a reputation in this city I have spent years building,
all of my friends...it's absurd, to me.
And they refuse to believe otherwise. They said, she's got the money,
she's got the return ticket, but they think I am going to work. The fact
that there is no work for a Domina at x-mas or for months after, makes no
impression. They have asked that I rent a house before I leave, to have
something to come home to.
I do that, I can't affoard to travel. That was the whole point of the
synchronicity of being homeless at this time of year, with my K. flaming and
so many experiences of growth and community awaiting me elsewhere. Thier
insistence that I intend to abandon my beloved slaves offends me, and I view
it as predjudicial harassment.
- Had nearly persuaded the gentlman I was dealing with at the time that I
really am vacationing, then Mr. Bruner came and whispered in his ear, and he
changed and started talking about how I was planning to dump lloyd
and.....that story again.
They talk about wanting me to have real estate here.
My beloved personal slaves believe they belong to me, and a human is a
priceless thing. I have chosen them with great care, over a period of years.
Moulding them to be the best themselves they can be is my true art, I am not
paid in cash for it. I could not abandon them, they are my Family. Having
chosen to take on the complex Mistress/slave relationship with them, makes
me very responsible for thier needs and well being.
A clearer picture:
My life mission is around freedom of sexual expression, and promoting the
understanding that sexuality is sacred. The only work I will be doing is
sacred work on myself, and those I encounter. No money in it!
I feel that I am being predjudiced against by UNS immigration, for my
sexual expression, and my spirituality. They seem to be convinced I am a
baby eating satanist, whithout a shred of moral fiber. If anything, the
international nature of the web, they thought was a perfect advertising
strategy for an alien....
It's not about getting across the border, anymore. It's about my life
mission, my awakening, unfolding as it should.
It's them vs my K. and the internet.
One of my simpler mottos: Deal with what's in front of you. This is right
in my face.
But I am at odds to plan my next step. This one individual is insistent on
seeing me according to his predjudices, and insists on documents I don't
have, like rent recipts and income statements.
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I don't work this time of year, especially without the security of a
playroom of my own to be in. I require some pieces of equipment that are
large and heavy, and in storage, for my comfort and my patron's tastes.
Essentially, though, of course like anyone my talent is in my heart and
mind, my being.
Mr. Bruner insisted that my toybag must stay at home, as they are tools
for work....well, I was personally kinky long before I was professionally
kinky, yet this man can tell me I may not bring in instruments for my own
personal use, when I am on vacation. I have travelled on pleasure with a
toybag many times before, with nary a problem, a few raised eyebrows, but no
hassle.
It feels like the patriarchal repressive forces are suddenly gathering
against my matriarchal mission of self discovery. I have meditated long on
this situation, and with his angel's permission, tried my best to send love
to overcome Mr. Bruener's apparent fear of me: he sees me as a threat.
I have encircled the crossing in blue K. fire, to try to change the
horrible energy I experienced there. I turn to my magic, and to the folks of
my internet family, for support.
- Blessings, Angelique.
Aka. Linda Holden, proud Canadian.
Mistress Angelique Serpent,
Dominant Experiential Facilitator.
Website= http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent
*******************
"Feel your hair come tumblin' down, feel your feet start kissin the ground.
Feel your arms are opening out. And feel your eyes are lifted to God.
With no words, with no song, I'm gonna dance the dream, and make the dream
come true.
I'm gonna dance the dream, and make the dream come true ( She gotta dance...)"
Kate Bush, "The Red Shoes"
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Vancouver, B.C., Canada. Officially the most beautiful city in the world.
7 Date: Sat, 7 Dec 1996
From: JFortesATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: White Gold
I found your article about white gold very interesting. Since I am brand new
at this, it was the first time I had heard of the white gold. In your
comments, you said that no one in your group had achieved ascension
permanently. Is this to say that there are temporary ascension experiences??
I experienced a tremendous kundalini opening about two years ago after 18
sessions of breathwork in a period of a few weeks. It was an unexpected
experience since I knew nothing about kundalini at the time. After that, I
had many extraordinary experiences that I am still trying to understand and
that is the reason for my question. Ascension is my goal this lifetime and
at times I thought it had happened when I found myself moving in and out of
other dimensions, witnessing my own death three different times as an
onlooker, etc.,
I would appreciate any input you may have.