kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 96 : Issue 110 


Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 
From: mxoATNOSPAMpyrite.som.cwru.edu (Maimu Alber)
Subject: Love

To all of you..........
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          love love l                   ove love love
     love love love love              love love love lov
   e love love love love l         ve love love love love
  love love love love love       love love love love love
 love love love love love    love love love love love lov
e love love love love love  love love love love love lov
 love love love love love love love love love love love 
 love love love love love love love love love love love
  love love love love love love love love love love lov
   e love love love love love love love love love lov
     e love love love love love love love love love
        love love love love love love love love l
         ove love love love love love love love
            love love love love love love lov
              e love love love love love lov
                e love love love love love 
                   love love love love lo
                    ve love love love lo
                       ve love love love
                         love love love 
                           love lovel
                             ove lo
                                ve 


Maimu


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    When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather......
     Not screaming and crying like the passengers in his car did.



Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 
From: Dan Gahlinger 
Subject: Re: Love
-
At 12:25 AM 8/23/96 -0400, you wrote:
>To all of you..........
>Maimu
>

that was really nice Maimu. thanks for picking me up. :)

Dan.
Dan.
There are always possibilities...



Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 
From: HB28277ATNOSPAMsprynet.com
Subject: Re: Disagree?

                  Books are like gurus.

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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 
From: Wendy 
Subject: Re: Disagree?

>From: HB28277ATNOSPAMsprynet.com
>To: John Halonen ,
>        Kundalini Mailing List
>	
>Resent-From: kundalini-lATNOSPAMexecpc.com
>X-Mailing-List:  archive/latest/1742
>X-Loop: kundalini-lATNOSPAMexecpc.com
>Resent-Sender: kundalini-l-requestATNOSPAMexecpc.com
>
>
>
>
>                  Books are like gurus.

-                      that don't talk back


Leap and the net will appear.
http://www.tiac.net/users/wenders
___________________

       Midnight is when noon is born.       - Chinese proverb
___________________

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Date: Thu, 22 Aug 1996 
From: John Carlson 
Subject: Re: JC 

> 7)  A message I sent to another list is being "held" because the list limit
> has been exceeded.  In two years on lists I've never had that happen before.

Actually, I've had it happen on a list that I run at least a couple of
times this year (usually during the weekend, of course!)

John



Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 
From: V487ATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: JC

Hi: Student

Nice to read you post

It might be nice if you could open up just a little.  Were you reading from a
text book?

I did not feel angthing coming through.


Von

P.S.   >can we auto-filter that kind of stuff from the list? televangelism we
DONT need.
(yes, my email is already set to filter such junk in the future)
please somebody pass me a bucket, I feel ill...<
--------------------------------------
Windows 95.  The new version does come with the filter as you mentioned.  It
has an angel icon on it. 

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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 
From: V487ATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: Love

Hi: Maimu

You said:

-
          love love l                        ove love love
     love love love love              love love love lov
   e love love love love l         ve love love love love
  love love love love love       love love love love love
 love love love love love    love love love love love lov
e love love love love love  love love love love love lov
 love love love love love love love love love love love 
 love love love love love love love love love love love
  love love love love love love love love love love lov
-   e love love love love love love love love love lov
     e love love love love love love love love love
        love love love love love love love love l
         ove love love love love love love love
            love love love love love love lov
              e love love love love love lov
                e love love love love love 
                   love love love love lo
                    ve love love love lo
                       ve love love love
-                         love love love 
                           love lovel
                             ove lo
                                ve 

I love it.

Love,
Von

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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 
From: V487ATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: Disagree/NO!

Hi: HB28277ATNOSPAMsprynet.com   or   R2D2


You said:
-                 > Books are like gurus.<
------------------------------------
A poem for you.  

                             " IT " 

                     If you "can" read it,
                 then you will not need it
                and if you "can not"  read 
               it then you don't need it.
-              
              Get it?



              That is why Books are like gurus. 

 Von


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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 
From: Richard Satin 
Subject: Re: JC and Maimu

I don't know, Maimu.  

But I do know that I really appreciate your presence here and what you have
to say.  That's not really what you are talking about.

Don't even pay too close attention (if you are)  to the stuff coming from
this kind of person.  Fundamentalism of any stripe is primarily about
insecurity and fear.  This note from Student reveals this to be his/her
motivation - with the accusation that we are under the influence and control
of their Satan.  They want to instill in everyone else the fear and
insecurity which defines the underlying way that they live.  What they don't
understand they seek to stamp out and make in conformity to their own
ignorance.

This is not a condemnation on Christianity per se; nor on Christians.  But
it is an indictment of the types of people - Christian or not - who have
disdain for others because they differ.

Student, believe it or not, I once was a born-again.  I thank God everyday
that I've had enough experience and life to move away from such a limited
and inaccurate reality.  If you ever have doubts about your way, there are
many, many people who have left and are much happier.  You are welcome to
stay and listen, if you are strong enough.  But please do not preach to us
again.  

Richard


Death is patiently making my mask as I sleep.  Each morning I 
awake to discover in the corners of my eyes the small tears
of his wax.
-Philip Dow



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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 
From: Richard Satin 
Subject: Re: JC

I've checked the distribution list, and "Student" (mailoutATNOSPAMore.edu) is not
even a subscriber to the kundalini list.  So, he or she probably just found
the kundalini pages somewhere on the net, and posted from there.

Just, FYI.
-
Richard

To seek after beauty as an end is a wild goose chase, a will-o'-
the-wisp, because it is to misunderstand the very nature of beauty,
which is the normal condition of a thing being as it should be.
-Ade Bethune



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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 96 
From: Richard Satin 
Subject: Fwd: Anonymous Post

Have noted numerous references to eye color changing. Since my recent 
awakening several months ago, the hair (on my head only) has changed 
from a light sandy brown (my moustache is that color and has stayed the 
same) to a very dark brown - almost black. Also, I had an oval, 
completely bald spot about three inches wide by one inch on the crown 
of my head - that has closed up with hair almost completely in the same 
time. If you look directly from the top, there appears to be somewhat 
less hair in the area of the whorl. Also, the hair that covers my head 
now is quite coarse, whereas my hair has always been baby-fine. I have 
noticed that the receded hairline at the front is advancing noticeably 
down towards my forehead. Not as much growth at the front as on the 
crown, but VERY pronounced. I originally had not noticed it (it is hard 
to see the crown of your head without two mirrors) but my wife has 
mentioned it repeatedly and agrees with the above assessment. Has 
anyone else noticed similar changes, especially with the hair or is it 
psychosomatic? On a more subjective note, she also says the skin all 
over my body has become softer and more supple - is that a change that 
is noted by others? Thanks.



There are two major products to come out of Berkeley: LSD and  UNIX.  We
don't believe this to be a coincidence.
Brent Wilson

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Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 
From: mxoATNOSPAMpyrite.som.cwru.edu (Maimu Alber)
Subject: Re: Love

At 12:38 AM 8/23/96 -0400, Dan Gahlinger wrote:
>At 12:25 AM 8/23/96 -0400, you wrote:
>>To all of you..........
>>Maimu
>>
>
>that was really nice Maimu. thanks for picking me up. :)

PIcked me up to send it.  Funny how that works.  :-)

Maimu

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    When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather......
-     Not screaming and crying like the passengers in his car did.



Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 
From: mxoATNOSPAMpyrite.som.cwru.edu (Maimu Alber)
Subject: Re: Disagree?

At 09:55 PM 8/22/96 -0700, HB28277ATNOSPAMsprynet.com wrote:
>
>                  Books are like gurus.

Care to elaborate a bit?

Maimu


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    When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather......
     Not screaming and crying like the passengers in his car did.
-


Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 
From: mxoATNOSPAMpyrite.som.cwru.edu (Maimu Alber)
Subject: Re: JC

At 02:45 AM 8/23/96 -0500, Richard Satin wrote:
>I've checked the distribution list, and "Student" (mailoutATNOSPAMore.edu) is not
>even a subscriber to the kundalini list.  So, he or she probably just found
>the kundalini pages somewhere on the net, and posted from there.
>
>Just, FYI.

I suspected as much just from the sound of his post..  People like him are
instigators.  They pop in somewhere they are usually not found, a place
where they can push a few buttons and start an argument.  Once they have
done this and gotte a bunch of attention, they quickly leave.  Many post to
several places at once.  Their motive is not for worthwhile discussion, but
just to see how many bites they can get.  That's why they are known as
"trollers."  The word comes from the fishing method where a line is dropped
into the water and dragged along to see what will bite.  In essence, they do
the same thing.

It is best to ignore them.  They go away sooner.

Maimu

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    When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather......
-     Not screaming and crying like the passengers in his car did.



Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 
From: mxoATNOSPAMpyrite.som.cwru.edu (Maimu Alber)
Subject: Re: JC and Maimu

At 02:37 AM 8/23/96 -0500, Richard Satin wrote:
>I don't know, Maimu.  
>
>But I do know that I really appreciate your presence here and what you have
>to say.  

Thank you, Richard. 

 I enjoy this list very much and have learned so much from all of this warm
little community.

Maimu
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    When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather......
     Not screaming and crying like the passengers in his car did.



Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 
From: mxoATNOSPAMpyrite.som.cwru.edu (Maimu Alber)
Subject: Dark side invasion
-
Hi all,

I just found out why I've been getting obscene mail since yesterday.
Someone included a quote in their mail, and it appears that some sick
individual has used my address and a fake name to solicit sex on one or more
newsgroups. 

I don't know what newsgroup(s)...and I certainly don't know who is sick
enough or hates me enough to do this.  This is malicious...and it also comes
to my work computer as well with subject lines you wouldn't want anyone to
see....

I am working on trying to get this cleared up.  Right now, I'm at a loss,
other than to report each and every one who mails me with such smut to their
postmaster, which is what is consuming my time right now....

In any case...I fear that this is only the beginning of some darkness in my
life...

I plan to take my dog Oreo and go camping this weekend...just me and
her...and I plan to spend a lot of time in chi kung under the trees, sun,
moon and stars....

Please send some positive energies out my way....I sure could use them....

Thanks...

Maimu

-
 
      *** Our truest life is when we are in dreams awake. --Thoreau ***

                             



Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 
From: HB28277ATNOSPAMsprynet.com
Subject: Re: Disagree?

On Fri, 23 Aug 1996, mxoATNOSPAMpyrite.som.cwru.edu (Maimu Alber) wrote:
>At 09:55 PM 8/22/96 -0700, HB28277ATNOSPAMsprynet.com wrote:
>>
>>                  Books are like gurus.
>
>Care to elaborate a bit?
>
>Maimu
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>    When I die, I want to go peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather......
>     Not screaming and crying like the passengers in his car did.
>
>
                       How man licks does it take to reach the center of a
                                 tootsie roll pop?

-

Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 
From: hbarrettATNOSPAMix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.)
Subject: re: hair

The woman who cuts my hair (knows nothing of me and K) says my hair is 
growing in more thick and wavy.  This overjoys me because I'd been 
certain I was going to end up one of those balding elderly ladies who 
buys peculiar things at the supermarket!  Now, at least, I don't think 
I'll be bald ;-)

Holly



Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 
From: Arlene Benjamin 
Subject: Maimu

Hi Maimu:

Definitely will send you positive energy. Have a super time.

It's sad that whoever is doing this doesn't realize what they are doing. 
I think the best thing to do is send this person some Light. Hopefully 
that will open their eyes.

Dan: Are you feeling much better now? Hope so! And everyone else who has
been feeling ill.
-
Love and Light to all,
Namaste'...Arlene
Peace begins at home*



Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 
From: GgjiATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re: JC
-
Whoever the student from Oral university is, he/she sent me the whole
kundalini experience I had written for my homepage or for this list to me.
There was nothing said but it was all put on. If you are still on the list,
what you were trying to say? Gloria Then in the next message is the message
about Jesus Christ. Come in for discussion if you wish.



Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 
From: Mary Knapp 
Subject: Re: hair

My hair is now wavy in areas whereas it used to be stick straight all over.
Also there was a streak of lighter hair that had been achieved with
chemicals but is now becoming naturally (?) lighter than the rest.  I also
note lots of new little hairs near the face, like little kids have.

All so interesting.

Mary



At 04:09 AM 8/23/96 -0500, Richard Satin wrote:
>Have noted numerous references to eye color changing. Since my recent 
>awakening several months ago, the hair (on my head only) has changed 
>from a light sandy brown (my moustache is that color and has stayed the 
>same) to a very dark brown - almost black. Also, I had an oval, 
>completely bald spot about three inches wide by one inch on the crown 
>of my head - that has closed up with hair almost completely in the same 
>time. If you look directly from the top, there appears to be somewhat 
>less hair in the area of the whorl. Also, the hair that covers my head 
>now is quite coarse, whereas my hair has always been baby-fine. I have 
>noticed that the receded hairline at the front is advancing noticeably 
>down towards my forehead. Not as much growth at the front as on the 
>crown, but VERY pronounced. I originally had not noticed it (it is hard 
>to see the crown of your head without two mirrors) but my wife has 
>mentioned it repeatedly and agrees with the above assessment. Has 
>anyone else noticed similar changes, especially with the hair or is it 
>psychosomatic? On a more subjective note, she also says the skin all 
>over my body has become softer and more supple - is that a change that 
>is noted by others? Thanks.
>
>
>
>There are two major products to come out of Berkeley: LSD and  UNIX.  We
>don't believe this to be a coincidence.
>Brent Wilson
>
>
>



Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 
From: Dan Gahlinger 
Subject: Re: Dark side invasion

At 11:09 AM 8/23/96 -0400, you wrote:
>Hi all,

these are the times of darkness, and sadness, and it seems grief as well...

seems to be a sign of the times. everything is coming out of the woodwork,
not just the good. the bad is revealing itself as well. this is an
indication we are accelerting faster towards the changes..

I have noticed more recently than not, basically good people, or who i
thought were good, being swallowed up in ego, and becoming greedy,
dishonest, spiteful. those are the words that start, the other words that
come are darker yet.

like the one who was my friend for so many years, believes he is pure of
ethics, but cannot see beyond his own ego, who threw away his long-term
marriage for "the magic" (as I sometimes like to call it now). he who has
been consumed by ego, and attacks what (those who) he fears, or does not
understand (and therefore fears). he has embraced the darkness, but he
cannot see it, he is blinded by the greed for things he cannot have or do.
things he will probably never accomplish, because of the choices he has
made. for him, it is too late, there is no longer time to revert to goodness.

like a friend now who is also changing, who tries to hide behind the shadows
hoping the truth is somehow shielded from the outside world. but it never
is. I had thought for a while he would make it because of one special
circumstance, and there is still a glimmer of white within him, but i am
afraid the darkness has him too.

I do not know why i brought it all up, but it seems to fit. i think one
important thing is that you have to let go of these people. they have
attached to you, or your aura, or energy, one way to get rid of them is to
send any cords they've plugged into you back to them, another thing is to
try and send these people white light, they usually hate that. :)
>
>I plan to take my dog Oreo and go camping this weekend...just me and
>her...and I plan to spend a lot of time in chi kung under the trees, sun,
>moon and stars....

sounds wonderful... getting back to nature such like you are doing is really
cleansing... and more wonderous than words can describe...
-
>Please send some positive energies out my way....I sure could use them....

much coming your way, heart level, i wish i could say more, but still i am
not functioning optimally...

you have done much good for the list, and helped others as well as myself in
times of need. i think you will find a lot of support here... :)
Dan.
there are always possibilities...
-


Date: Fri, 23 Aug 1996 
From: Pat Welsh 
Subject: Mudras (YJ, Part 1)

	I do not practice yoga, but I discovered long ago that the magazine "Yoga
Journal" tends to publish *well-written* New Age-type articles that are of
interest to me.  Therefore, I'm a subscriber.
-	In the current issue (Sept./Oct. '96) of a "Yoga Journal" (available at
health food stores as well as the big-chain bookstores featuring large
magazine sections) is Richard C. Miller's article, "The Power of Mudra: This
Ancient Tradition of Precise Hand and Body Gestures Can Develop Energy
Circuits in the Body, Channel Breath and Mind for Healing, and Deepen
Meditation."  Because people have been asking about mudras (I "first" heard
about them in a video by dowser Bill Cox), I will be excerpting parts of the
article (but skipping the long introductory material on practice-cautions,
since "our" interest concerns *spontaneous* mudras).  If this information is
of interest to you, then you *really* ought to go out and get a copy of the
magazine, as the photographs do better than words...   --Pat Welsh

EXCERPT, Part 1:

	"...Although there are many different types of hand and body mudras, I have
chosen to concentrate on four categories of hand mudras.  The first set, the
*sharira* mudras, works on the physical body.  The second set, the *prana
nadi* mudras, works on the breath body.  The third set, the *merudanda*
mudras, concentrates on the energy body.  And the fourth group, the *prana
kriyas,* emphasizes the mental body.
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THE *SHARIRA* MUDRAS

	"...Technically structural gestures (*sharira* = body), these mudras
utilize fingers, arms, and pressure points to channel the breath into the
different spaces in the torso...

1. *Kanishta Sharira* Mudra (brings the breath into the lower lobes of the
lungs and into the lower abdomen and back):  "Palms should be flat,
stretched open and parallel to the ground.  Press the forefingers into the
sides of the body, just below the fixed ribs, with thumbs facing behind and
toward the spinal column.  Elbows should be as far forward as possible."

2. *Madhyama Sharira* Mudra (brings the breath into the middle lobes of the
lungs and into the middle chest and back): "Press the tip of each thumb into
the hollow space inside the middle of each armpit.  Don't allow the hands to
droop or the elbows to drop."

3. *Jyestha Sharira* Mudra (brings the breath into the upper lobes of the
lungs, the upper chest, and back): "With open palms flat onto the shoulder
blades, keep the spine erect, head up, shoulders away from the ears, and
elbows raised up and held behind the ears.  Maintain a gentle pressure of
the hands on the shoulderblades and the arms against the sides of the head."

4. & 5. *Deerghaswasa Sharira* Mudra (brings the breath into all lobes of
the lungs and into the upper, middle, and lower body, front and back):
"Interlace the fingers and extend the middle fingers out straight like a
steeple.  Straighten thumbs away from palms...The tips of the thumbs rest
against the sternum and the middle fingers in the notch at the base of the
throat."
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[continued later]