Date: Mon, 12 Aug kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 96 : Issue 86 

From: Jim Cook 
Subject: The Guru Thing

Hi All,

Why in the world would anyone want a Guru ?

Let's say you just climbed into the cockpit of a 747
and you want to take off with 300 people onboard.
You're headed from New York to Paris.

You don't know a Dam thing about flying a 747 but you think that you can
figure it out on your own.

An experienced pilot comes on board and tells you that he/she will help you
to get this plane off the ground and safely landed in Paris.

You say, " Get out of here. This is my own trip "

The tower clears you for takeoff .
The tower has no way of knowing if you're qualified to fly a 747

So, you take off.

By the way, the tower is Kundalini.

Anyways - You take off and the next day every major newspaper in the country
has a picture of your 747 that crashed and burned on takeoff.

You can use Kundalini as your Guru and she will guide you to the right path
but you will be takeing a lot of side streets.

A dear friend of mine who had a Kundalini awakening two years ago didn't
have a clue as to what was happening to her.
She was born into a wealthy family and one day she hauled all of their
expensive furniture out on the street and put up a sign saying ( Free
Furniture )
You probably guessed it.
Her husband came home and had her commited.

In a way though, Kundalini guided her in the right direction.
Our local school board gave her an early retierment with 100% benefits.

Please exscuse my spelling. 

She's now at her cabin at Mount Shasta lounging by the lake and sending me
e-mail asking me if I'm still going to work every day.

Myself, I would never attempt to fly a 747 without proper instructions.
Neither would I blast off into the " Cosmic Wind " without proper guidence.

But, In a way, the side streets are kind of interesting.

Bye for now,

Jim



Date: Mon, 12 Aug 
From: stampmanATNOSPAMix.netcom.com (Daniel Rusch-Fischer )
Subject: Symbolism - Interpretation - Help?

Hello fello & fellah (k)ites,

I have committed a newbie faux pas - I didn't keep my mouth shut when I 
should have done so. Yikes! I had a powerful image/vision/impression 
(does k (k)now any other way?) about a woman I recently met - a 
professional dominatrix with a well known 'session house' in San 
Francisco. I told her I didn't know what it meant, where it came from, 
or even if it was worthwhile giving any consideration. I was not aware 
that she is inclined to belief in this sort of thing and is now 
concerned about it - WHY ME? I know that some of you are really attuned 
to this kind of thing and might be able to offer at least a spin on 
this so I will relate it and let the email flow. (Again, I can hear the 
knowing giggles and the uh-huhs, yups, been-there-done-thats - I am 
embarrassed, but more concerned about the unwitting stress I may be 
causing this lady.)

The IMAGE was this:
I saw her standing, facing me, nude. As my 'eyes' moved from her feet 
upward I was aware of a pinkish pearlescent glow emanating from the 
major chakra centers. When I got to the area of the throat, I got an 
impression of imbalance (not now, but future imbalance) along 
with a startling appearance to the chakra (I hate using these terms, as 
I know they carry unnecessary baggage with them, but the medical term 
plexus doesn't seem appropriate). It consisted of a circular hole that 
emanated bright white light, the flesh at the edge was torn as from a 
savage animal attack, but was symmetrically layed back in a six-arm 
spiral sunburst.

The INTERPRETATION is???????

Thanks for your help/advice/insights,

Dan

BTW I am going to respond to the personal mail I have gotten over my 
previous (tantra)lizing posts - but, I will do so when I have had the 
time to (kun)sider my response and when the time is right. Also, I have 
this goofy impression that I am supposed to be doing something with my 
website experience for this page/group - please just ask, I will help 
were I can! 


Date: Mon, 12 Aug 
From: SYL228ATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re Dan (Stampman)

The spaciness is still with me on some days but I have discovered that if I
take a lot of Potassium it does improve.  I think the reason is that our
brains are being rewired so quickly that we cannot always get enough oxygen
to them.  Potassium helps carry the oxygen to the brain. Also since sodium
and potassium are antagonists, watch your salt intake. If I eat an extra
salty meal, i'ts always worse.  Gatorade of all things also helps, because it
has the correct sodium/potassium ratio.  I hate the stuff, but anything in a
pinch.

The disappearing trick you mentioned is shared by a few of us. At least
judging by people I have spoken to. It's spooky, but we, whoever we think we
are, are still as real even if invisible

I loved your description of being only a few atoms, and mainly space.  The
first information I got after "K" was about the nature of matter.  I still do
get a lot of chemical information ,  I started to see my Higher Self at the
center of every atom in my body. I think that visualisation, along with the
"K" energy was the reason I was healed.

Your experience about being surrounded with people because they love your
energy makes sense.  Many cultures have traditions of the master simply being
around to beam love and light to the world.  The botisatva (spelled wrong I'm
sure) is a case in point.
Some of us have trouble because we are still too sensitive to the negative
energy of others. We take it into ourselves and transmute it.  So you are
very lucky,enjoy it.

Love Jule


Date: Mon, 12 Aug 
From: SYL228ATNOSPAMaol.com
Subject: Re Patti, Denise

Patti:

I am almost 4, so I am still a babe.  that's why I asked the question. What
will I be when I grow up?

Thanks for the input, I'm sure there are stages to this.Finally I feel able
to relate to people more, one reason I joined the list. For a while I was
becoming a recluse.  It was the only way I could handle everything.  But then
it was most important to heal myself first. 

Denise:

I didn't see a giant sperm, but the experience began at the top of my head.
 Rather as if I'd been touched by a wand or something. I also experienced the
sense of moving back in time.  It seems to me now, and I may change my mind
at any (time) that I moved backward to the beginning of this universe, as if
it were a probability line that I had explored.  I went backwards, so I could
see what I had done.  I brought my new body with me, and this was necessary,
because somehow in another universe we had messed up and broken our original
bodies into pieces.  This  universe was  for the sole purpose of collecting
the scattered parts.  Like Isis collecting the scattered parts of Osiris.
 Then Having gone back with the new body, I  sense I'm moving forward on a
new probability line.  Time has become completely meaningless for me.
I found Stephen Hawking's book a Brief History in Time very useful, to
understand this.

Love Jule


Date: Mon, 12 Aug
From: "Roethel, Karen" <>
Subject: No Reponse to New Member

Has anyone receiveded my new member letter? I had no response. It took alot 
to open up and share my thoughts.  Maybe no one received it?

Karen from Boston


Date: Mon, 12 Aug 
From: netzachATNOSPAMidirect.com
Subject: colors

good morning all

here are some usefull general effect of colors that has sure helped me,
maybe it will also help someone else... blessed be....

RED: increases your connection to the earth and gives strength to basic
life-force urges such as the will to live in the physical world. charges,
protects, sheilds. good for all organs in the first chakra area.......

MAROON: brings passion and will together......

ROSE: brings strong active love for others, helps you love. very healing
for heart and lung problems.....

PINK: brings a soft, yielding love for others......

PEACH: brings a soft, yielding, expanding light spirit......

ORANGE: charges your sexual energy and enhances your immune system. good
for all organs in the second chakra region. increases your ambition......

YELLOW: gives more mental clarity, a sence of appropriateness. good for
all organs in the third chakra region. clears the mind......

GREEN: bring balance and a feeling of fullness: i'm OK, your OK, the world
is OK. good for all organ connected to the forth chakra......

BLUE: brings peace, truth, and quite order. helps you speak the truth,
increases sensitivity, strengthens the inner teacher. goog for all ogans
in the fifth chakra area, like the thyroid. used to cauterize wounds in
spiritual surgery.....

DARK BLUE: brings strong sense of purpose....

INDIGO: opens spititual perception, brings the feeling of ecstasy. helps
you to connect to the deeper mystery of spiritual life. good for any
organs near the sixth cahkra.....

PURPLE: help you intergrate and move into spirituality, brings a sence of
royalty. 

LAVENDER: brings a lighthearted attitude towards life. clears and perges
invading micro-organisms, brings a feeling of lightness......

WHITE: helps you to connect to your purity and expand your field. brings
spiritual expansion and connections to others on the spiritual level;
gives outward flow of energy. reduses pain, good for the brain.....

GOLD: enhances the higher mind, understanding the perfect pattern, brings
a sense of great power. helps you to connect to god and the spiritual
stength in you. strengthens any part of the body......

SILVER: very strong purging of microorganisms, used directly after
lavender in cleaning out debris. helps you move faster and communicate
better. used to cauterize wounds in spitiual surgery......

PLATINUM: clears and purges invading microorganisms, even stronger than
silver light......

BROWN: enhances a rich connection to the earth and grounding......

BLACK: helps you draw within and stay centered. brings complete peace. if
you use it well, it will help you enter into deeo internal creative
forces. brings you into the void, the source of teaming unmanifest life,
waiting to be born into manifestation. brings you into grace. good to help
deal with death. good to heal bones.....

love all
jada


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Date: Mon, 12 Aug
From: "Roethel, Karen" <>
Subject: Reprint

Hello my friends!

I am new to the group and would like to introduce myself. I have been 
listening to your thoughts lovingly. I would like to share my thoughts with 
ya'll and hope you don't think I'm crazy.

I'm currently 39, single with no children. I have an incredible career as a 
technical writer for computer software. I've been an independent 
consultant/contractor for the last 5 years. Life is incredible. I have a 
very youthful athletic build. My body seems to be stronger with age not 
older. I contribute this to my thought patterns. I'm able to reverse the 
aging process. I believe I've been using my K for a very long time and never 
new it.

Life was not always this way! My family called me the black sheep....looser 
of the family. I'm not sure if I experienced a major K awakening or became a 
walk-in. I have contributed everything to my faith and Love in God as my 
awakening but I do believe it runs much deeper. Since birth I have known 
things that a normal child should not understand. I was able to place myself 
in an alpha state automatically.  My father used to get mad and told me not 
to do it.  The catholic religion never made sense to me.
I studied astrology and new there was other life forms in the universe. I 
gradually realized I had an inner voice that spoke to me.  When I listened 
to the voice everything ran smooth in my life. People never understood what 
I meant. I gradually keep my thought and the universal knowledge to my self. 


I spent 1978 to about 1988 being an emotional, unloved and insecure person I 
ran off anyone who cared for me. My parents threw me out of the house and I 
grew up in the school of hard knocks.  I became involved with drugs and 
alcohol for about 10 years on and off and tried to commit suicide maybe 12 
times. I was a beaten house wife for a while and Life was hell on earth .... 
I was creating it.

Threw all of this, deep inside myself, I new I was a beautiful person who 
was capable of incredible love for all around me including my enemies. The 
only person I was unable to love was myself........The K kicked in.

I was living in Las Vegas at the time of my next to last suicide attempt. I 
tried to OD on pills and alcohol. I woke up after falling asleep and was 
completely disorientated. I felt very scared, almost like, if I when to 
sleep I would never return to this life...then I was scared that I was gone 
and the "I" that was in this body was scared to enter the body. I'm not sure 
but everything changed after that night. The old stubborn Karen tried one 
more time a month later.

I had met a challenge in this life from a previous life and realized I could 
not return home by this method. I have always wanted to return to my 
spiritual form and feel the real unconditional love that we keep trying to 
find in human form. I remember my spiritual life being of pure light. I have 
no fear of death. Death is our return to happiness. The lesson I learned was 
I could NOT take the easy way back. I was not to destroy something GOD 
created. I instantly new that was one of the reasons I returned in this life 
situation. I was to learn this lesson. I did and much was made known to me 
at that time.

I am here for  the awakening of knowledge.

By the way I learned about the Unity Church and started to quickly 
understand I was not alone, their were other who had knowledge also. 
 Charlie a good master friend in Bandero Texas guided me and taught me how 
to love myself again.  This was my second lesson to be learned. The 
exceleration has been incredible. Welcome to school house planet earth.

I left Vegas and returned to Austin, Texas to start cleaning up the 
past.....MY FATHER. lesson three. I erased the past differences and loved 
him unconditionally. I reorganized my priorities: Career first, Where I 
lived second, and personal relationships third. BAM! I started to really 
concentrate and center myself. I spent 4 years in Houston and broke into 
tech writing, won awards for my work, paid off old debts, put a big saving 
account together and decided  to move to Boston for 6 months as a 
consultant. (I knew there was a new lesson to be learned here). I will be 
returning to Houston in October, I am trying to learn how to love a man 
without fear.  This is a big lesson for me. I'll let ya'll know how it goes. 
(My nickname is "Little Miss Non-Committal."

Five years of tremendous change and growth have overwhelmed me. I am 
creating life from my thoughts. We have the power to co-create with God for 
we are his extension. We have had are twelve DNA strands taken from us and 
are about to have them returned. Yes there are other beings who have 
interfeared. They also are co-creators, and are brothers. They are 
exceptionally scared  now for they know we are on the virge of knowing what 
they did to us. The 2000 years of peace are almost upon us.

When mankind on earth finds out the truth....first they will be scared and 
then they will be MAD. We are here to help them through the change. I don't 
have all the answers yet. But it will be made known to me when the time is 
right.

I would like to ask for your help on a subject I keep trying to avoid. 
Meditation - I believe I am avoiding meditation and I do not know 
why....another lesson I suppose. I can place myself in an alpha state on 
demand with my eyes open. I do not understand why I AM avoiding meditation. 
 If anyone could explain why I might be doing this I would greatly 
appreciate your input.

Hope I have not bored you!
Thank you for sharing with me.

Karen (TEX)


Date: Mon, 12 Aug 
From: hbarrettATNOSPAMix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.)
Subject: Re: Reprint

Hi Karen, thanks for your reprint.  Know what you mean about kundalini 
and the power of the body.  I am 48 and after the energy started I went 
back to ballet class after a hiatus of 20 years (I used to dance 
professionally)!

Sometimes meditation feels right to do and other times it doesn't -- 
makes me nauseated, in fact.  So I dance instead.

Holly


Date: Mon, 12 Aug 
From: Royale Jills 
Subject: Re; Gurus

patti, Hi. I usually agree with you but not on the guru issue.  If it is a real
guru( of the Indian variety usually) it is one who is fully realized ,ie, at
one with god. and they are truly considered divine. They are in an omnipitant
(sp)? state and can really guide you properly.  I know some who say they are,
arn't, but lets not through out the baby with the bathwater. Unfortunately it
may be hard to tell the difference but Im sure you and other list members can.
Royale


Date: Mon, 12 Aug 
From: Mary Knapp <>
Subject: Re: Reprint

Hi Karen,

That is quite a tale you tell.  Welcome to the list.  You should feel at
home here.  Your take on DNA etc. sounds familiar.  Have you read Barbara
Marchiniack's books?  She paints a similar scenario from channeled sources.

Re: meditation.  I am meditating less than pre-k because I think it helps me
keep the energies at a useful level.  When I feel them too low, I miss them
terribly, and get back into it.  Does any one else do this?  It was
recommended to me by the folks at Vitagenics, a spiritual website.

I wonder how big the list has grown to.  Richard, could you tell us, please?

Mary


Date: Mon, 12 Aug
From: Mary Knapp <>
Subject: Re: Re; Gurus

My current understanding of the guru issue:

There are good gurus and weak gurus and millions of kinds in between.  More
important, there are stages of development/enlightenment during which *some*
of us need gurus and some do not.  I found Jesus to be a perfect
guru/brother/teacher for a while.  He kicked me out of the nest after a
while and pointed me toward K - ever so gently. I still look back at Him.
We offer each other fond encouragement.

Mary


Date: Mon, 12 Aug 
From: Mary Knapp <>
Subject: Re: Re Dan (Stampman)

>Some of us have trouble because we are still too sensitive to the negative
>energy of others. We take it into ourselves and transmute it.  So you are
>very lucky,enjoy it.
>

The best way I have heard about to deal with this is: to always be sending
out love.  With that outflow nothing negative can trickle in!  Sounds good
anyway.

Mary


Date: Mon, 12 Aug 
From: Denise Clausen 
Subject: Re: Reprint




Hi Karen,
In regards to your question about meditation, I am having the same problem with
it. even the name turns me off. I think with me its something like this---
exercise and meditation are alot alike. What I mean is that , I will not
exercise, I hate it, but, I will do hard physical work of some kind or another
because whatever Im doing calls for this. Just to start exercising is
impossible for me, but in the course of a day I may do what other people call
alot of exercise without trying to exercise. Im just doing whatever I have to
do, to do what I want to do! I think meditation is alot like this with me. I
dont, cant, meditate just like that, even though I too can become in a trance
like state very easily, seeing through walls into other places and things,  but
when I do it its because Im doing something that requires me to do it. It just
happens, just like exercise, not because Im trying to accompish these things
intentionally but because whatever Im doing requires these things, whenever Im
doing what I want to do! 

                         Love Denise